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Today's topics:
convert a bitmap file into a jpg file ? <lev.weissman@creo.com>
Re: convert a bitmap file into a jpg file ? <thepoet_nospam@arcor.de>
Re: convert a bitmap file into a jpg file ? <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: hello world with perl <invalid@invalid.nyet>
Re: hello world with perl <scobloke2@infotop.co.uk>
Help with Pattern matching. Matching multiple lines fro <b_chamness@comcast.net>
Re: Help with Pattern matching. Matching multiple lines <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: Help with Pattern matching. Matching multiple lines <abigail@abigail.be>
Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties <pillsbury@gmail.com>
Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties <jstroud@mbi.ucla.edu>
Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties <slobodan.blazeski@gmail.com>
new CPAN modules on Thu May 3 2007 (Randal Schwartz)
Re: Perl & SMS Question <nobull67@gmail.com>
Re: Perl6, Perl5, and CPAN <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: Perl6, Perl5, and CPAN <abigail@abigail.be>
Re: Perl6, Perl5, and CPAN <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Responding to Trolls [was Re: ignorance and intolerance <steve@REMOVEME.cybersource.com.au>
Re: Responding to Trolls [was Re: ignorance and intoler <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
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Date: 3 May 2007 02:39:06 -0700
From: MoshiachNow <lev.weissman@creo.com>
Subject: convert a bitmap file into a jpg file ?
Message-Id: <1178185146.152294.274520@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
HI,
Is there any CPAN library/method to convert a bitmap file into a jpg
file ?
Thanks
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 12:50:11 +0200
From: Christian Winter <thepoet_nospam@arcor.de>
Subject: Re: convert a bitmap file into a jpg file ?
Message-Id: <4639be63$0$20295$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net>
MoshiachNow wrote:
> Is there any CPAN library/method to convert a bitmap file into a jpg
> file ?
Both GD and Image::Magick are able to do that (and much more).
-Chris
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 12:56:50 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: convert a bitmap file into a jpg file ?
Message-Id: <0vfj335fro1bdq3425m9l1jtbu1oav6kl6@4ax.com>
On 3 May 2007 02:39:06 -0700, MoshiachNow <lev.weissman@creo.com>
wrote:
>Is there any CPAN library/method to convert a bitmap file into a jpg
>file ?
Many. Image::Magick surely does it.
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 21:31:07 -0400
From: "Wade Ward" <invalid@invalid.nyet>
Subject: Re: hello world with perl
Message-Id: <-I-dnYoDdbDDpqTbnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@comcast.com>
"Ian Wilson" <scobloke2@infotop.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46389279$0$21844$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Tad McClellan wrote:
>> Ian Wilson <scobloke2@infotop.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> perl -e "print qw(Hello World\n)"
>>
>> ^^ ^^
>> ^^ ^^
>>
>> ITYM "qq" instead of "qw".
>>
>>
> Oops yes, thanks for the correction.
'perl' is not recognized as a command.
--
WW
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 09:34:09 +0100
From: Ian Wilson <scobloke2@infotop.co.uk>
Subject: Re: hello world with perl
Message-Id: <46399e81$0$21838$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk>
Wade Ward wrote:
>
> 'perl' is not recognized as a command.
Download and install ActivePerl.
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Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:37:33 -0500
From: "Bobby Chamness" <b_chamness@comcast.net>
Subject: Help with Pattern matching. Matching multiple lines from while reading from a file.
Message-Id: <8PudnVwWx5RwxaTbnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Example from a file I'm reading.
2007-04-17 09:35:34 ACSSA[0]:
1431 N sa_demux.c 1 276
drive 4, 1, 1,11: Library error, Transport failure
I want to match the first and third line, that way I know the date and
drive info.
so the output on the print will look like this
2007-04-17 09:35:34 ACSSA[0]: drive 4, 1, 1,11: Library error, Transport
failure
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 10:31:25 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Help with Pattern matching. Matching multiple lines from while reading from a file.
Message-Id: <f27j33dtt3pdascfn247de0l89cnlie6q5@4ax.com>
On Wed, 2 May 2007 22:37:33 -0500, "Bobby Chamness"
<b_chamness@comcast.net> wrote:
>Example from a file I'm reading.
>
>2007-04-17 09:35:34 ACSSA[0]:
>1431 N sa_demux.c 1 276
>drive 4, 1, 1,11: Library error, Transport failure
All entries like this one? Separated by blank lines? Not separated?
>I want to match the first and third line, that way I know the date and
>drive info.
Depending on the answer to the questions above and the size of the
file, either slurp the file in and match over multiple lines or read
line by line and if match occurs read some more lines or if the
"format" is reliable enough do not match at all
>so the output on the print will look like this
>2007-04-17 09:35:34 ACSSA[0]: drive 4, 1, 1,11: Library error, Transport
>failure
I'm still failing to see what you've tried thus far and how it doesn't
work for you. Under optimistic assumptions even the following oneliner
may work for you:
perl -lpe '<>;$_.=" ".<>'
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: 03 May 2007 08:35:18 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.be>
Subject: Re: Help with Pattern matching. Matching multiple lines from while reading from a file.
Message-Id: <slrnf3j7le.hl5.abigail@alexandra.abigail.be>
Bobby Chamness (b_chamness@comcast.net) wrote on MMMMCMXCIII September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:8PudnVwWx5RwxaTbnZ2dnUVZ_jqdnZ2d@comcast.com>:
}} Example from a file I'm reading.
}}
}} 2007-04-17 09:35:34 ACSSA[0]:
}} 1431 N sa_demux.c 1 276
}} drive 4, 1, 1,11: Library error, Transport failure
}}
}} I want to match the first and third line, that way I know the date and
}} drive info.
Example answer:
perl -nwe 'chomp if $. == 1; print unless $. == 2' file
}}
}} so the output on the print will look like this
}} 2007-04-17 09:35:34 ACSSA[0]: drive 4, 1, 1,11: Library error, Transport
}} failure
}}
Abigail
--
A perl rose: perl -e '@}-`-,-`-%-'
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Date: 2 May 2007 20:02:53 -0700
From: Pillsy <pillsbury@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties
Message-Id: <1178161373.347033.200680@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
On May 2, 11:33 am, Xah Lee <x...@xahlee.org> wrote:
[...]
> In a person's computing career, concrete and specialized questions
> like these abound, and the answers or knowledge about them are scarce.
> Due to the general ignorance of technical knowledge, and the power-
> struggling nature of males, and the habit of intolerance and "troll-
> crying" in computing communities, made it difficult to have any
> sensible discussion of original questions that doesn't fit into some
> elementary level of FAQs and concepts.
I'm sort of wondering why you'd expect to have a conversation about
one concrete and specialized topic in a venue devoted to an entirely
different concrete and specialized topic.
Cheers,
Pillsy
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Date: Wed, 02 May 2007 21:23:13 -0700
From: James Stroud <jstroud@mbi.ucla.edu>
Subject: Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties
Message-Id: <f1bo3h$jo8$1@zinnia.noc.ucla.edu>
Xah Lee wrote:
> Today, a motherfucker Christophe Rhodes (aka Xof in irc://chat.freenode.net/lisp
> ) kicked banned me.
Are you aware that you are a troll? Have you considered that this has
anything to do with your being kick-banned? Why do 99.999999 % of the
people on the web not get treated like you? Answer: you are a troll and
they are not.
James
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Date: 3 May 2007 03:29:12 -0700
From: fireblade <slobodan.blazeski@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties
Message-Id: <1178188152.238480.153390@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
> As i have indicated in my post, it is non-trivial to implement a
> function that returns the positive angle of a vector. For example, it
> can be done with sign checking of the coordinate components (in total
> 4 cases, which can be done as 2 levels of nesting if, or simply 4
> if.), and or the evaluation of Min[Abs[ArcCos[x],Abs[ArcSin[x]]], or
> use clever ways with dot product, or ArcTan. It is not a trivial to
> know which algorithm is in general more efficient. (this is important,
> since finding the angle of a vector is a basic function, that may
> needs to be called millions times directly or indirectly) Further,
> consider the inverse trig function, it is likely 99.99% of people with
> a PH D in math wouldn't know how these are actually implemented. So,
> the question of whether calling one of the inverse trig function is
> more robust or efficient than another is a open question. And, besides
> the algorithmic level, the question also entails how the language
> actually implement the inverse trig functions.
>
> Besides efficiency concerns, there's also robustness concerns. For
> example, if the 2 vectors are {1,0} and {0,1}, a simplistic
> implementation will result in division by 0 or similar errors.
> Checking whether one of them lies on the x or y axis means more if
> statements, as well the non-trivial problem of determining if two
> numbers are equal. (e.g. is 0.000001 considered equal to 0.0001 )
>
>
> =C2=A0 Xah
> =C2=A0 x...@xahlee.org
> =E2=88=91http://xahlee.org/
Xah could you please post staff related to lisp programming like above
in separate thread from your personal things like someone banning you
from the IRC.
thanks
bobi
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Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 04:42:10 GMT
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal Schwartz)
Subject: new CPAN modules on Thu May 3 2007
Message-Id: <JHG7qA.xun@zorch.sf-bay.org>
The following modules have recently been added to or updated in the
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN). You can install them using the
instructions in the 'perlmodinstall' page included with your Perl
distribution.
Acme-Kensiro-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~tokuhirom/Acme-Kensiro-0.03/
kensiro-sinsu
----
Acme-Lambda-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~nelhage/Acme-Lambda-0.02/
Perl with lambdas!
----
Cache-Memcached-1.21
http://search.cpan.org/~bradfitz/Cache-Memcached-1.21/
client library for memcached (memory cache daemon)
----
Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-Credential-OpenID-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~miyagawa/Catalyst-Plugin-Authentication-Credential-OpenID-0.02/
OpenID credential for Catalyst::Auth framework
----
Catalyst-View-Jemplate-0.05
http://search.cpan.org/~miyagawa/Catalyst-View-Jemplate-0.05/
Jemplate files server
----
Catalyst-View-TT-Filters-LazyLoader-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~tomyhero/Catalyst-View-TT-Filters-LazyLoader-0.04/
TT View Class with Template::Filters::LazyLoader support.
----
DBIx-Class-Indexer-WebService-Lucene-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~bricas/DBIx-Class-Indexer-WebService-Lucene-0.02/
Automatic indexing of DBIx::Class objects via WebService::Lucene
----
DBIx-Class-StorageReadOnly-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~nekokak/DBIx-Class-StorageReadOnly-0.04/
Can't insert and update and delete for DBIC
----
Data-ObjectDriver-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~btrott/Data-ObjectDriver-0.04/
Simple, transparent data interface, with caching
----
Image-Magick-Thumbnail-PDF-1.03
http://search.cpan.org/~leocharre/Image-Magick-Thumbnail-PDF-1.03/
make thumbnail of a page in a pdf document
----
Image-Magick-Thumbnail-PDF-1.04
http://search.cpan.org/~leocharre/Image-Magick-Thumbnail-PDF-1.04/
make thumbnail of a page in a pdf document
----
Lirc-Client-1.27
http://search.cpan.org/~mgrimes/Lirc-Client-1.27/
A client library for the Linux Infrared Remote Control
----
Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.0
http://search.cpan.org/~jmason/Mail-SpamAssassin-3.2.0/
Spam detector and markup engine
----
MooseX-Getopt-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~stevan/MooseX-Getopt-0.03/
A Moose role for processing command line options
----
MooseX-IOC-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~stevan/MooseX-IOC-0.01/
Moose attributes with IOC integration
----
POE-Component-SSLify-0.07
http://search.cpan.org/~apocal/POE-Component-SSLify-0.07/
Makes using SSL in the world of POE easy!
----
POE-Component-Server-SOAP-1.11
http://search.cpan.org/~apocal/POE-Component-Server-SOAP-1.11/
publish POE event handlers via SOAP over HTTP
----
POE-Component-SimpleDBI-1.16
http://search.cpan.org/~apocal/POE-Component-SimpleDBI-1.16/
Asynchronous non-blocking DBI calls in POE made simple
----
Parallel-Fork-BossWorker-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~jrod/Parallel-Fork-BossWorker-0.02/
Perl extension for easiliy creating forking queue processing applications.
----
REST-Resource-0.5.2.4
http://search.cpan.org/~frotz/REST-Resource-0.5.2.4/
Provide base class functionality for RESTful servers.
----
Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.31
http://search.cpan.org/~szabgab/Spreadsheet-ParseExcel-0.31/
Get information from Excel file
----
Sub-Information-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~ovid/Sub-Information-0.02/
Get subroutine information
----
SyslogScan-Daemon-SpamDetector-0.54
http://search.cpan.org/~muir/SyslogScan-Daemon-SpamDetector-0.54/
Notice spammers in the log files
----
Text-Glob-0.08
http://search.cpan.org/~rclamp/Text-Glob-0.08/
match globbing patterns against text
----
WWW-OpenSearch-0.12
http://search.cpan.org/~bricas/WWW-OpenSearch-0.12/
Search A9 OpenSearch compatible engines
----
WWW-Scraper-ISBN-TWBooks_Driver-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~ijliao/WWW-Scraper-ISBN-TWBooks_Driver-0.02/
Search driver for TWBooks' online catalog.
----
WWW-Scraper-ISBN-TWCwbook_Driver-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~ijliao/WWW-Scraper-ISBN-TWCwbook_Driver-0.02/
Search driver for TWCwbook's online catalog.
----
WWW-Slides-v0.0.3
http://search.cpan.org/~polettix/WWW-Slides-v0.0.3/
serve presentations on the Web
----
WWW-Translate-Apertium-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~enell/WWW-Translate-Apertium-0.02/
Open source machine translation
----
WebService-Careerjet-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~jeteve/WebService-Careerjet-0.04/
Perl interface to Careerjet's public search API
----
constants-0.0027
http://search.cpan.org/~hooo/constants-0.0027/
If you're an author of one of these modules, please submit a detailed
announcement to comp.lang.perl.announce, and we'll pass it along.
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Date: 3 May 2007 00:03:08 -0700
From: Brian McCauley <nobull67@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Perl & SMS Question
Message-Id: <1178175788.749235.26400@c35g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
On May 2, 11:28 pm, "ame...@iwc.net" <ame...@iwc.net> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for a module that will allow me, from a Perl script, to
> senda text message to a cell phone.
>
> I would rather not use the email approach, as people change providers
> and such. So, I'd rather use the phone number.
>
> I've trued NET::SMS and WWW::SMS and neither work. NET::SMS requires
> me to pay some subscription to a place, and WWW::SMS just plain
> failed......
>
> Can anyone else help??
Perhaps a psychic? That's what you'd need to diagnose a problem from
a description of "plain failed".
Whenever I send SMS from Perl I just use a simple HTTP POST with LWP
to a gateway[2]. Perhaps I would have used one of those modules if
they'd been about when I first did it but it would be hard for the API
to be simpler. The main advantage of such modules is that they can
encapsulate the differences between gateway APIs and avoid the need to
change your code when you change gateway.
In general you are going to need a paid subscription to a gateway
service. This is unavoidable to recoup costs and avoid abuse of the
service to Spam. Remember that in most[1] networks there is a
termination charge for SMS and the recipient bares none of the cost.
And where the recipient pays the potential for Spam is even worse.
If you send SMS via a "free" website user interface this service is
provided to draw readers into the website (where they'll be exposed to
advertising that pays for the service). You cannot reasonably expect
an API service to be free. You could use LWP to drive a free website
service but they tend to try to make this non-trivial and it usually
violates their terms of use anyhow.
[1] I believe this may be less common in the US, I'm talking globally.
[2] The one I use (Clickatel) is in South Africa, priced in Euros but
billed in Rand. About .1 Euro per message (varies by network). Prepay
pay-as-you-go. No setup or standing fees. For reliable worldwide
delivery of small numbers of messages ~10/day I've not found a more
cost effective option - and for the amount it's costing it's not much
worth my while looking at the moment.
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 10:23:48 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Perl6, Perl5, and CPAN
Message-Id: <oh6j33ttlpge5qf0pruag0ed0hohqitg3f@4ax.com>
On 2 May 2007 14:59:33 -0700, flifus@gmail.com wrote:
>Hi all. I'm about to slug my way through half a dozen perl books, as I
>want to learn it. What will happen when Perl6 come along? What will
(Incidentally, any($Larry, @Larry, @others) prefer
s/(erl)([56])/$1 $2/g; # )
Perl 5 will still be around for a long time.
>happen to my Perl5 knowledge? and, what will happen to CPAN's Perl5
>modules? Thanks.
It won't be lost. They won't be lost:
: CPAN is my programming language of choice; the rest is just syntax.
: - Audrey Tang, Perl 6 is Here Today
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: 03 May 2007 08:38:21 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.be>
Subject: Re: Perl6, Perl5, and CPAN
Message-Id: <slrnf3j7r4.hl5.abigail@alexandra.abigail.be>
Michele Dondi (bik.mido@tiscalinet.it) wrote on MMMMCMXCIII September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:oh6j33ttlpge5qf0pruag0ed0hohqitg3f@4ax.com>:
;; On 2 May 2007 14:59:33 -0700, flifus@gmail.com wrote:
;;
;; >Hi all. I'm about to slug my way through half a dozen perl books, as I
;; >want to learn it. What will happen when Perl6 come along? What will
;;
;; (Incidentally, any($Larry, @Larry, @others) prefer
;;
;; s/(erl)([56])/$1 $2/g; # )
I prefer 'Perl6'. 'Perl 6' might give the impression it's version 6
of the language Perl. But 'Perl6' is a completely different language,
barely resembling Perl.
Abigail
--
perl -e '* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
% % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % %;
BEGIN {% % = ($ _ = " " => print "Just Another Perl Hacker\n")}'
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 12:56:05 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Perl6, Perl5, and CPAN
Message-Id: <4ffj331qh84fheg4kraocksoi9j2u5o6d1@4ax.com>
On 03 May 2007 08:38:21 GMT, Abigail <abigail@abigail.be> wrote:
>;; (Incidentally, any($Larry, @Larry, @others) prefer
>;;
>;; s/(erl)([56])/$1 $2/g; # )
>
>
>I prefer 'Perl6'. 'Perl 6' might give the impression it's version 6
>of the language Perl. But 'Perl6' is a completely different language,
>barely resembling Perl.
Yep, you're right. And I respect your experienced hacker's opinion.
But I respect more $Larry's will. AIUI it's a completely different
language, intendedly perlish enough to be still called Perl. Similar
enough to Perl 5 to allow for automatic translation of most reasonable
code. I know in advance your mileage *does* vary. That Middle Ages and
Reinassance thing, you know.
PS: good news is that the man with 22 years hacking Experience and TWO
degrees wants to join the core develepment team of PERL SIX. If you
have some time and want to have fun, read about this hilarious
troll/crank at <http://perlmonks.org/?node_id=613233>.
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 14:54:21 +1000
From: Steven D'Aprano <steve@REMOVEME.cybersource.com.au>
Subject: Responding to Trolls [was Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties]
Message-Id: <pan.2007.05.03.04.54.15.287936@REMOVEME.cybersource.com.au>
On Wed, 02 May 2007 21:23:13 -0700, James Stroud wrote:
> Xah Lee wrote:
>> Today, a motherfucker Christophe Rhodes (aka Xof in irc://chat.freenode.net/lisp
>> ) kicked banned me.
>
> Are you aware that you are a troll? Have you considered that this has
> anything to do with your being kick-banned? Why do 99.999999 % of the
> people on the web not get treated like you? Answer: you are a troll and
> they are not.
Sometimes I dream of a world, a wonderful, far away world, where nobody
was allowed to post to Usenet until they can correctly answer the
following multiple-choice question:
Q Verbally abusing trolls ...
1. gives them the attention they crave
2. fails to discourage their trollish behaviour
3. annoys the people who otherwise wouldn't have seen the troll's post
4. all of the above
--
Steven D'Aprano
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Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 10:15:29 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Responding to Trolls [was Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties]
Message-Id: <3f6j33dccko0friap4a9geoigndldp2u3u@4ax.com>
On Thu, 03 May 2007 14:54:21 +1000, Steven D'Aprano
<steve@REMOVEME.cybersource.com.au> wrote:
>Subject: Responding to Trolls [was Re: ignorance and intolerance in computing communties]
Nope. No way.
Michele
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