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Perl-Users Digest Fri, 20 Apr 2007 Volume: 11 Number: 365
Today's topics:
Re: Server For Rent? Where? <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Re: Server For Rent? Where? <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Re: Server For Rent? Where? <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Re: Server For Rent? Where? <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: Server For Rent? Where? <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Re: Server For Rent? Where? <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Re: Server For Rent? Where? <wahab-mail@gmx.de>
Re: Share objects between processes - how? patrik.xx.hoiem-flyckt@ericsson.com
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Date: 20 Apr 2007 03:14:49 -0700
From: skieros <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Server For Rent? Where?
Message-Id: <1177064089.371964.74740@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
On Apr 20, 11:05 am, Sherm Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.org> wrote:
> You're as deluded as Moronzilla.
Same applies to you and i will stop playing your game from now and
on....
> *plonk*
*plonked* by * as well, and even if see some of your posts againi wont
bother ansering then, neither on mails neither on Instant Messnegers
where you call me names and stuff all day.
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Date: 20 Apr 2007 03:17:38 -0700
From: skieros <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Server For Rent? Where?
Message-Id: <1177064258.850700.30330@b58g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>
On Apr 20, 4:41 am, Tad McClellan <t...@augustmail.com> wrote:
> skieros <nikos1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > and i dotn have an online spelling checker, the
> > typos are due to speed iam writing...
>
> Your typos convey that you do not value the time of your audience.
No, they just convey that i type faster that i currently can, which
iam correcting at the moment.
> That is likely to piss them off too.
Not all of the people here are anti-social dorks like you are.
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Date: 20 Apr 2007 03:23:15 -0700
From: skieros <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Server For Rent? Where?
Message-Id: <1177064595.358668.118510@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
On Apr 20, 5:47 am, jayjuli...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2:48 pm, skieros <nikos1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello iam thinkignt o start a web design + domain registration +
> > hosting company on my own and i want to ask you if you know where can
> > i find reliable an very cheap servers for rent. Thank you.
>
> Reliable and Cheap can't be used in the same sentence. Also, what's
> cheap to one may not be cheap to another. You *CAN* lease dedicated
> servers for as little as $59 a month but that particular computer
> could be thrown together in under $250.
>
> The BEST thing you can do (financially and performance wise) is to
> build your own server then send you're server to a housing facility
> that will provide you with IP addresses and a fast connection. This is
> called co-location. Most big web hosts and ISPs that offer Dedicated
> Server will have a co-location service. This is a good way to save on
> monthly costs but you're still looking anywheres from $60 to a couple
> hundred a month.
>
> *IF* you cannot afford either routes you can always get a VPS (Virtual
> Private Server). Just like the name suggests it's a virtual server
> hosted on a dedicated server. Though it's a shared environment the
> Memory, Resources, and Space are dedicated and guaranteed for each
> VPS. VPS's will run anywheres from $29/month up to $99/month.
>
> *IF* a VPS is too expensive for you then it would be a good idea to
> get a Web Host that offers a RESELLERS ACCOUNT. This is Shared Hosting
> in a Shared Environment but it's usually dirt cheap. You can charge
> your customers whatever but a portion must go to the Web Host. This is
> the easiest way to do what you seek. This will cost you anywheres from
> $8-$49 per month.
I;am not quite sure that i have undestood the difference between a
reseller server and a dedicated server.
If you fell like it please explain it a little more.
> *IF* that is too expensive than you must be reminded that it takes
> money to make money and if you are planning to make solid money than
> it is a wise idea to invest in your project.
You are correct, so i will increase my offer to 20$/month instead of
5$.
> There are too many Web Hosts out there. Since you mentioned $5/month
> in another post I won't even bother showing you any servers. You can
> check outhttp://www.jaguarpc.netfor shared hosting.
Maybe with 20$ you can?
>
> > I askes this in other forums as well but i also asked here
>
> It's poor netiquette, selfish, and greedy to clutter usenet with cross
> posts hoping to get your answer faster. It's better to take a little
> more time to find the appropriate on-topic group to post your question
> in to ensure the response you want. I was just being nice to you.
>
> > you people are on the business of web design/programmign
>
> Perl has nothing to do with the World Wide Web. In fact, most people
> here don't know how to program Perl for the web. In the late 90's Perl
> became the language of choice for CGI applications but Perl was never
> written nor meant to be used for the internet. You apparently didn't
> know, which is not a big deal. But Jurgen Exner Tad McClellan, and
> Michele Dondi are classic anti-social dorks who don't know how to
> socially interact with other PEOPLE.
I will agree on Jurgen Exner Tad McClellan behaviour, Michael Dondi is
more nice
> > and there is a good chanc of you know...
>
> There really wasn't. A newsgroup focused on Web Hosts or Web Masters
> probably would of been a better choice.
>
> Check out
>
> http://www.jaguarpc.nethttp://www.communitech.nethttp://www.ev1servers.net
>
> All good companies that offer Reseller Programs.
>
> Also check outhttp://www.godaddy.comto become a reseller for Domain
> Names too. I believe Dotster also has a program.
Thank you very very much for taking the time to answer my question,
although wasnt the most appropriate forum and didnt feel insulted like
other due to a single question that i have though you people knew
about and indeed you did, as far as i can tell from you.
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Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:38:15 -0500
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: Server For Rent? Where?
Message-Id: <slrnf2h9h7.gn9.tadmc@tadmc30.august.net>
skieros <nikos1337@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 20, 4:39 am, Tad McClellan <t...@augustmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Please stop littering in our park.
>
> Please stop sending me insulting mails, contact me with insulting
> messages through instant messengers
I have never sent you an email nor contacted you via IM.
> You send me 5 mails yesterday and every hour talk to me to IM
No I didn't.
> Youa re one sick puppy.
And you make false accusations.
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 20 Apr 2007 04:16:07 -0700
From: skieros <nikos1337@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Server For Rent? Where?
Message-Id: <1177067767.916179.261990@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On Apr 20, 2:38 pm, Tad McClellan <t...@augustmail.com> wrote:
> skieros <nikos1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 20, 4:39 am, Tad McClellan <t...@augustmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Please stop littering in our park.
>
> > Please stop sending me insulting mails, contact me with insulting
> > messages through instant messengers
>
> I have never sent you an email nor contacted you via IM.
>
> > You send me 5 mails yesterday and every hour talk to me to IM
>
> No I didn't.
>
> > Youa re one sick puppy.
>
> And you make false accusations.
>
> --
> Tad McClellan SGML consulting
> t...@augustmail.com Perl programming
> Fort Worth, Texas
Sure you did many many times, dont make me search incoming mails....
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Date: 20 Apr 2007 08:10:00 -0400
From: Charlton Wilbur <cwilbur@chromatico.net>
Subject: Re: Server For Rent? Where?
Message-Id: <87zm53xn53.fsf@mithril.chromatico.net>
>>>>> "sk" == skieros <nikos1337@gmail.com> writes:
>> Jurgen Exner Tad McClellan, and Michele Dondi are
>> classic anti-social dorks who don't know how to socially
>> interact with other PEOPLE.
sk> I will agree on Jurgen Exner Tad McClellan behaviour, Michael
sk> Dondi is more nice
In this group, you can generally have "nice" or you can have correct.
You've managed to get most of the people who are likely to be correct
to plonk you. You may feel better about this, but when the time comes
that you have a hard Perl question, you won't get the best available
help because they won't even see it.
I hope that's worth it.
Charlton
--
Charlton Wilbur
cwilbur@chromatico.net
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Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:32:43 +0200
From: Mirco Wahab <wahab-mail@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Server For Rent? Where?
Message-Id: <f0ac9p$69c$1@mlucom4.urz.uni-halle.de>
skieros wrote:
> On Apr 20, 5:47 am, jayjuli...@optonline.net wrote:
>> Perl has nothing to do with the World Wide Web. In fact, most people
>> here don't know how to program Perl for the web. In the late 90's Perl
>> became the language of choice for CGI applications but Perl was never
>> written nor meant to be used for the internet. You apparently didn't
>> know, which is not a big deal.
Just a small correction to the parent poster. Of course,
Perl has "nothing to do with the Internet", because when
Perl was made, there wasn't such a thing like the Internet
(as we know it today). So this assertion seems to be trivial.
But - after Perl5 went into the servers (it was a huge success),
the Internet transformed exactly into the thing we love today
(or suffer from until today). There was a word floating around,
"the next outbreak of a worldwide economic crisis" would be
caused by "a programming error in a forgotten Perl script",
which wasn't that far from reality ;-)
So the above assertion says something like "Airplanes has
nothing to do with World War II" or "Rockets has noting to
do with World War III".
>> But Jurgen Exner Tad McClellan, and Michele Dondi are classic
>> anti-social dorks who don't know how to socially interact with
>> other PEOPLE.
> I will agree on J[ü]rgen E[r]xner Tad McClellan behaviour,
> Michael Dondi is more nice
Don't be mislead here, these are people who get their
work done and have a lot experience with working in
teams. They tend to tell you the truth directly and
don't bother if your personal attitude will suffer
from that ...
Don't demand to be treated like a milksop if you aren't one ;-)
Regards
M.
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Date: 20 Apr 2007 04:56:18 -0700
From: patrik.xx.hoiem-flyckt@ericsson.com
Subject: Re: Share objects between processes - how?
Message-Id: <1177070178.927927.172760@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>
On 20 Apr, 10:48, anno4...@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de wrote:
> <patrik.xx.hoiem-fly...@ericsson.com> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I have a problem that you might help me with. I have a client app made
> > in perl/tk that speaks with a server (RPC::PlServer, built on
> > Net::Daemon). This server forks a process per product type (PT). You
> > can run different perl scripts for each PT (to test the PT). Since
> > RPC::PlClient makes synchronous calls, I want to either thread or fork
> > a process while running scripts for the PTs, since the scripts can
> > take several hours to run. Otherwise the client will get locked during
> > this time. I have tried a threaded solution and a forked solution and
> > they work fine as long as I don't have to share anything. But I have a
> > session object, containing session variables that I have to get back
> > from the child process after it's finished.
>
> Is the session object actually *shared* between processes (or threads)?
> I mean, do processes access the object concurrently?
>
The session object today isn't actually shared, but it would be nice
to be able to work with other stuff regarding a PT during the time
that scripts are running - it is just a question about what
limitations I have to set for the app. It could work with Storable
maybe, at least for starters. The ultimate would be a real shared
scenario though. I think it is weak by a language that claims to be
object oriented not to support this in a natural way. Unfortunately
the language isn't my choice. Then it would have been Java... Thanks
anyway!
> If the session object belongs to only one process at any time you can
> pass it back and forth using standard serialization methods (Storable,
> Data::Dumper, alternatives on CPAN) without actually sharing it.
>
> Anno
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