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Fri Jan 26 06:06:21 2007

Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:05:09 -0800 (PST)
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Perl-Users Digest           Fri, 26 Jan 2007     Volume: 11 Number: 78

Today's topics:
    Re: appending to a global filehandle <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
    Re: Bus error <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
    Re: efficiency question about 'split' <g_m@remove-comcast.net>
    Re: Hash of Hashes <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@augustmail.com
    Re: problems regexp <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
    Re: SOAP::Lite + wsdl misunderstanding? <stevel@bluetuna.com>
        Sort on multiple values <ppi@searchy.net>
    Re: Sort on multiple values anno4000@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de
    Re: Sort on multiple values <ppi@searchy.net>
    Re: Statistics Extraction <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
    Re: String Substitution question <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
    Re: Style questions <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:26:14 +0100
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: appending to a global filehandle
Message-Id: <icejr2dmmtjroiqumehfluakj7mfl4t76f@4ax.com>

On 25 Jan 2007 17:39:40 -0800, "markpark"
<mark.leeds@morganstanley.com> wrote:

>i have a function called writedata and, inside the function, some
>things
>get calculated ( details  not important )  and then a  file gets opened
>and written to. but this function
>is called over and over and what i want to do is keep appending to the
>same file.
>but, it seems like using the >> doesn't help because the files becomes
>empty
>once the routine is exited ?

Well, it simply *shouldn't*. Maybe something else is going wrong.

>i guess that i need to make the filehandle global somehow but i'm not
>clear on how to do that ?

Filehandles, but lexical ones, *are* global. And this is an option.

>or maybe send it in as a parameter ? thank you very much for any help
>that can be provided.

This is another option.

># MAIN PROGRAM ( not quite but this gives the idea )
>
>foreach (my $bin=$exchMap->{$Exch}{s2}; $bin<=$exchMap->{$Exch}{e2};
>$bin++) {

Although this is "not quite" your real program, it's still too verbose
and complex for me to want to dig through it. The general
recommendation is to prepare a minimal but complete example still
exhibiting the problem. Often in the course of doing so one finds the
solution by herself.

I'll try to provide some minimal code myself, in the hope it helps:

  #!/usr/bin/perl
  
  use strict;
  use warnings;
  
  sub writedata {
      my ($fh,$data)=@_;
      print $fh $data, "\n";
  }
  
  open my $fh, '>>', 'test.txt'
    or die "Can't open `test.txt': $!\n";
  
  writedata $fh, $_ for 1..10;
  
  __END__


Michele
-- 
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
 .'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,


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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:35:57 +0100
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Bus error
Message-Id: <ivejr2h4cabh60d2s37nqi94j2v35mrupu@4ax.com>

On 25 Jan 2007 18:58:31 -0800, "pallav" <pallavgupta@gmail.com> wrote:

>!/usr/bin/perl -w
>
># $Id:$
>
>use strict;
[snip]

Whoa! That's 469 lines, and uses quite a lot of modules, not all of
which may be on anyone's system. BTW: not likely to be your problem,
but the shebang line misses a # at the beginning. As it is now it will
cause your script to not even compile. Whatever, can you trim it down
to a minimal but complete example still exhibiting the problem? If so,
your will immensely increase the chances people will be able to help
you: many of us surely want to, but they also want to be helped doing
so. Moreover, in the process of creating it, chances are that you will
find the solution yourself, well that's what often happens, although
admittedly it can possibly be more difficult in this specific case.
Incidentally, I didn't really read your code, but a quick peek into it
revealed lots of &-forms of sub call, which is now obsolete and
deprecated, unless you *really* know what you're doing. Well, this
will hardly have to do with your actual problem, but you may want to
know anyway...


Michele
-- 
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
 .'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,


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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:51:12 -0500
From: "~greg" <g_m@remove-comcast.net>
Subject: Re: efficiency question about 'split'
Message-Id: <moqdnTpZZv2KXCTYnZ2dnUVZ_vupnZ2d@comcast.com>


thank you all!

although i am still not quite sure what the answer is, then again,
I am not quite sure what my question was either.
And I know I made factual mistakes in asking it.

Pretty silly in any case.
I've got a 2.8 ghz processor, 2gig of ram,
and about a terabyte of external storage.

It's just that, -late at night, -when I asked the question
about efficiency, -my heart had somehow gone back
to the commodore-64,  -- 0.9875 mhz 6502 chip,
64k ram (expanded to 128)
360k floppies (-but unlimited memory on cassette.)
The only decent way to program back then
was in Forth and assembly.
And efficiency was everything.

so, I am sorry.
i was just having a senior moment.

~greg.








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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:40:28 +0100
From: Josef Moellers <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
Subject: Re: Hash of Hashes
Message-Id: <epcett$mrp$2@nntp.fujitsu-siemens.com>

doni wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> I am having some problems in printing the Hash of Hashes.

Beg your pardon?
Why are you starting a new thread on almost the same subject as the old=20
thread? Are you not satisfied with the answers that you get? Or is=20
progress too slow and the deadline for your homework is nearing and you=20
are desperate to get answers?

--=20
Josef M=F6llers (Pinguinpfleger bei FSC)
	If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize
						-- T.  Pratchett



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Date: 26 Jan 2007 08:10:06 GMT
From: tadmc@augustmail.com
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.7 $)
Message-Id: <45b9b75d$0$82269$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net>

Outline
   Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
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       - Check the Perl Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
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      Really Really Should
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      If You Like
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   Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Is there a better place to ask your question?
       - Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
      How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
       - Carefully choose the contents of your Subject header
       - Use an effective followup style
       - Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
       - Ask perl to help you
       - Do not re-type Perl code
       - Provide enough information
       - Do not provide too much information
       - Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
      Social faux pas to avoid
       - Asking a Frequently Asked Question
       - Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
       - Asking for emailed answers
       - Beware of saying "doesn't work"
       - Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
      Be extra cautious when you get upset
       - Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
       - Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:13:55 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: problems regexp
Message-Id: <epcnqf.cc.1@news.isolution.nl>

john.swilting schreef:

> if($data{attachement} = ~m/$`\.gif/){


Or try substr: 

  if ( substr($data{attachement}, -4) eq q/.gif/ ) {

-- 
Affijn, Ruud

"Gewoon is een tijger."


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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:43:38 -0800
From: Steve Leibel <stevel@bluetuna.com>
Subject: Re: SOAP::Lite + wsdl misunderstanding?
Message-Id: <stevel-D4A6EF.01433826012007@news.giganews.com>

In article <Xns98C1E9B023365castleamber@130.133.1.4>,
 John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I thought that the whole point of providing a wsdl file to SOAP::Lite was 
> that SOAP::Lite could turn a structure like:
> 
> foo => { bar => 1, baz => [ 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ] }
> 
> into XML with the right types based on the information in the WSDL file 
> (which I consider a grammar specification). Or am I severely mistaken and 
> the Lite in SOAP::Lite means it doesn't do this?

SOAP::Lite does not appear to work very well with WSDL; nor does it 
handle structured data in such a way as to be compatible with Java 
interfaces generated from the same WSDL.

I posted about this recently and got only one comment. It troubles me 
that Perl is falling so far behind in the SOAP world. It also troubles 
me that nobody else seems troubled.

From www.soaplite.com:

"As a result, SOAP::Lite has a number of known interoperability issues 
with more modern implementations of SOAP servers and clients."

It's a problem when you're working in a mixed Java/Perl shop, and the 
Java guys have a web service, and you have to hand-code a client to talk 
to it because the Perl WSDL support isn't there.

Likewise it's a problem when you can't mplement a Perl-based Web 
service, despite the existence of an O'Reilly book saying you can.


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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:18:39 +0100
From: Frank <ppi@searchy.net>
Subject: Sort on multiple values
Message-Id: <45b9c77a$0$331$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>

Hi,

I've been trying to sort an hash on multiple items, but at the moment 
with no success.

I got this script:

%hash = (
   'one' =>
     {'1'=>'a','2'=>'m'},
   'two' =>
     {'1'=>'a','2'=>'k'},
   'thr' =>
     {'1'=>'b','2'=>'b'},
   'fou' =>
     {'1'=>'c','2'=>'l'},
   'fiv' =>
     {'1'=>'a','2'=>'d'},
   'six' =>
     {'1'=>'a','2'=>'f'},
   'sev' =>
     {'1'=>'b','2'=>'f'},
   'eig' =>
     {'1'=>'a','2'=>'e'},
   );

%hash_sort = sort {
   $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'1'} || $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'2'}
} keys(%hash);

foreach $key(%hash_sort) {
   print "Test: ($key) ".$hash{$key}{'1'}." - " . $hash{$key}{'2'} . "\n";
}


But I seems to just return it in some random order.

What could be wrong?


Regards,

Frank


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Date: 26 Jan 2007 09:30:16 GMT
From: anno4000@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de
Subject: Re: Sort on multiple values
Message-Id: <51u018F1mcj1lU1@mid.dfncis.de>

Frank  <ppi@searchy.net> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been trying to sort an hash on multiple items, but at the moment 
> with no success.

Well, you *can't* sort a hash, so the lack of success is no surprise.
Hash entries have no defined order.

> I got this script:
> 
> %hash = (
>    'one' =>
>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'m'},
>    'two' =>
>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'k'},
>    'thr' =>
>      {'1'=>'b','2'=>'b'},
>    'fou' =>
>      {'1'=>'c','2'=>'l'},
>    'fiv' =>
>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'d'},
>    'six' =>
>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'f'},
>    'sev' =>
>      {'1'=>'b','2'=>'f'},
>    'eig' =>
>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'e'},
>    );
> 
> %hash_sort = sort {
>    $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'1'} || $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'2'}
> } keys(%hash);

Your sort block looks fine, but it is nonsense to assign the list of
hash keys to another hash.  You don't even know if there's an even or
odd number of elements in it.

Try this (untested):

    my @ordered_keys = sort {
        $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'1'} ||
        $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'2'}
    } keys %hash;

    print "$_ => $hash{ $_}\n" for @ordered_keys;

Anno


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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:17:25 +0100
From: Frank <ppi@searchy.net>
Subject: Re: Sort on multiple values
Message-Id: <45b9d540$0$322$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>

anno4000@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de wrote:
> Frank  <ppi@searchy.net> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been trying to sort an hash on multiple items, but at the moment 
>> with no success.
> 
> Well, you *can't* sort a hash, so the lack of success is no surprise.
> Hash entries have no defined order.
> 
>> I got this script:
>>
>> %hash = (
>>    'one' =>
>>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'m'},
>>    'two' =>
>>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'k'},
>>    'thr' =>
>>      {'1'=>'b','2'=>'b'},
>>    'fou' =>
>>      {'1'=>'c','2'=>'l'},
>>    'fiv' =>
>>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'d'},
>>    'six' =>
>>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'f'},
>>    'sev' =>
>>      {'1'=>'b','2'=>'f'},
>>    'eig' =>
>>      {'1'=>'a','2'=>'e'},
>>    );
>>
>> %hash_sort = sort {
>>    $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'1'} || $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'2'}
>> } keys(%hash);
> 
> Your sort block looks fine, but it is nonsense to assign the list of
> hash keys to another hash.  You don't even know if there's an even or
> odd number of elements in it.
> 
> Try this (untested):
> 
>     my @ordered_keys = sort {
>         $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'1'} ||
>         $hash{$a}{'1'} cmp $hash{$b}{'2'}
>     } keys %hash;
> 
>     print "$_ => $hash{ $_}\n" for @ordered_keys;
> 
> Anno

Now it works fine ^O^
Assigning the list to an hash instead of an array was not very smart :P


thanks,

Frank



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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:36:50 +0100
From: Josef Moellers <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
Subject: Re: Statistics Extraction
Message-Id: <epcen3$mrp$1@nntp.fujitsu-siemens.com>

doni wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:13 am, Josef Moellers
> <josef.moell...@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote:
>=20
>>It is a common understanding in this group that we don't write code for=

>>you, but we're willing to comment on any code that you post. Our
>>comments may very well contain code e.g. when we want to suggest a
>>different approach, as I did in my reply.
>>So, play around with the code that was posted and come back if you have=

>>(unworking) code. Post that code and we're glad to suggest modification=
s.
>>--
>=20
>=20
> Joseph,
>=20
> Can you take a look at the code below...
>=20
>=20
> MAC, PHY and Network stats gets generated every 30 minutes and are
> copied to a file.
> I want to extract all the stats information that is copied to a file
> into an hash of hashes and print them.
> The file has multiple MAC, PHY and Network Statistics in it and I am
> extracting the MAC data in a MAC hash of hashes, PHY data in a PHY hash=

> of hashes and Network data in a Network hash of hashes.
> Here is how the data that is represented in a file. There will be
> multiple MAC, PHY and Network Statistics in the file but I am showing
> only one of them in here as an example.
>=20
> For example, if there were 10 MAC Statistics in the file, this is how I=

> want the data from the "frames with invalid header" stats message to be=

> copied to a hash.
> 	$mac{'frames with invalid header'}{1} =3D 0
> 	$mac{'frames with invalid header'}{2} =3D 0
> ....... $mac{'frames with invalid header'}{10} =3D 0
>=20
>=20
> Here is the program I wrote to do the above operation but its not
> working as expected. Can anyone let me know where I went wrong.

It's a very bad description: "its not working as expected".
Maybe you ask perl where you went wrong:

use warnings;
use strict;

When I defined those variables that you didn't ($key, %network, $value), =

I got:

Message Value is: 4
Message Value is: 61
Message Value is: 87
Message Value is: 4597
Message Value is: 1693
Message Value is: 0
Message Value is: 0
Message Value is: 542
Message Value is: 0
Message Value is: 851
Message Value is: 152
Message Value is: 546
Message Value is: 0
Message Value is: 763
Message Value is: 0
Message Value is: 549

What did you expect?

There are several other issues in your program (lexical filehandles,=20
unnecessary initializations), but rather than rewrite it as _I_ would=20
have written it (which may not be your style), again:

1. ask perl for help ("use ...")
2. specify exactly what you expect and what you get.

Josef
--=20
Josef M=F6llers (Pinguinpfleger bei FSC)
	If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize
						-- T.  Pratchett



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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:37:41 +0100
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: String Substitution question
Message-Id: <epcp9i.1gk.1@news.isolution.nl>

Mirco Wahab schreef:

>     my @stuff = qw'( ) [ ] ? * . $ + _ -';
>     my $m = '[' . (join '', map quotemeta, @stuff) . ']';

Alternatives:

      my $m = q:[: . quotemeta( q:()[]?*.$+_-: ) . q:]: ;


$ perl -wle'
  my $m = q:][()?*.$+_-: ;
  print qr/[$m]/
'
(?-xism:[][()?*.$+_-])

-- 
Affijn, Ruud

"Gewoon is een tijger."


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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:14:45 +0100
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Style questions
Message-Id: <hndjr21i8rtri8d7tokhnj6t667haut785@4ax.com>

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:48:18 GMT, "Colin B."
<cbigam@somewhereelse.nucleus.com> wrote:

>I'm not a programmer, and never have been. I can grind out a decent shell
>script, and beat my head against perl until things work, but I'm seldom
>happy with the inelegance of the solution. Does anyone have any good style
>guides for perl?

There's the one that comes with Perl:

  perldoc perlstyle

>And more specifically, I've got the following general case that keeps coming
>up routinely.
>
>foreach (`some_unix_command_that_puts_out_multiple_lines`) {

Nothing wrong with this. Personally I have an idiosincrasy with
backticks and prefer qx with alternative delimiters, but that's just
me. (That's also in shell scripts, where I prefer $() all the time,
but there the latter has the additional, *technical*, advantage of
allowing nesting.)

Other than that, if your unix command puts out *lots* of multiple
lines, you may want to use a "piped" open() instead, and read line by
line, although all in all it is a more verbose solution.

>	chomp;
>	split;

split() in void context is deprecated. Perl emits a warning if
warnings are on. I strongly recommend you put the following two lines
at the beginning of your scripts:

  use strict;
  use warnings;


Michele
-- 
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 .'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,


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