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        new CPAN modules on Tue Jan  9 2007 (Randal Schwartz)
    Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
    Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected <DJStunks@gmail.com>
    Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected <stahl.karl@gmail.com>
    Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected <jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>
    Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected <DJStunks@gmail.com>
    Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected ced@blv-sam-01.ca.boeing.com
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@augustmail.com
    Re: regex <jwkenne@attglobal.net>
    Re: To do parallel processing.. <tzz@lifelogs.com>
    Re: Win32::OLE - saving content of just one worksheet i <brian.helterline@hp.com>
    Re: Win32::OLE - saving content of just one worksheet i <anonymous@127.0.0.1>
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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:42:13 GMT
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal Schwartz)
Subject: new CPAN modules on Tue Jan  9 2007
Message-Id: <JBL6ID.213C@zorch.sf-bay.org>

The following modules have recently been added to or updated in the
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN).  You can install them using the
instructions in the 'perlmodinstall' page included with your Perl
distribution.

Catalyst-Plugin-FormBuilder-1.07
http://search.cpan.org/~nwiger/Catalyst-Plugin-FormBuilder-1.07/
(DEPRECATED) Catalyst FormBuilder Plugin
----
Config-Model-0.605
http://search.cpan.org/~ddumont/Config-Model-0.605/
Model to create configuration validation tool
----
DBD-Multi-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~dwright/DBD-Multi-0.03/
Manage Multiple Data Sources with Failover and Load Balancing
----
DBD-Multiplex-2.00
http://search.cpan.org/~tkishel/DBD-Multiplex-2.00/
A multiplexing driver for the DBI.
----
DBIx-Class-SaltedPasswords-0.03001
http://search.cpan.org/~perler/DBIx-Class-SaltedPasswords-0.03001/
Salts password columns
----
DBIx-HA-0.99
http://search.cpan.org/~hasseily/DBIx-HA-0.99/
High Availability package for DBI
----
DateTime-TimeZone-0.58
http://search.cpan.org/~drolsky/DateTime-TimeZone-0.58/
Time zone object base class and factory
----
Egg-Release-0.26
http://search.cpan.org/~lushe/Egg-Release-0.26/
WEB application framework release.
----
HTML-Feature-v0.1.0
http://search.cpan.org/~miki/HTML-Feature-v0.1.0/
an extractor of feature sentence from HTML
----
HTML-Feature-v0.1.1
http://search.cpan.org/~miki/HTML-Feature-v0.1.1/
an extractor of feature sentence from HTML
----
Math-Polynom-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~erwan/Math-Polynom-0.04/
Operations on polynoms
----
Net-Frame-Dump-1.00
http://search.cpan.org/~gomor/Net-Frame-Dump-1.00/
tcpdump like implementation
----
PBS-Logs-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~rkowen/PBS-Logs-0.02/
general parser for PBS log files
----
POE-Component-Server-SimpleHTTP-1.15
http://search.cpan.org/~bingos/POE-Component-Server-SimpleHTTP-1.15/
Perl extension to serve HTTP requests in POE.
----
Perl6-Junction-1.20_01
http://search.cpan.org/~cfranks/Perl6-Junction-1.20_01/
Perl6 style Junction operators in Perl5.
----
PerlSpeak-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~jkamphaus/PerlSpeak-0.01/
Perl Module for text to speach with festival or cepstral
----
RPC-Object-0.23
http://search.cpan.org/~jwu/RPC-Object-0.23/
A lightweight implementation for remote procedure calls
----
SyslogScan-Daemon-SpamDetector-0.42
http://search.cpan.org/~muir/SyslogScan-Daemon-SpamDetector-0.42/
Notice spammers in the log files
----
TAPx-Parser-0.50_03
http://search.cpan.org/~ovid/TAPx-Parser-0.50_03/
Parse TAP output
----
TM-1.25
http://search.cpan.org/~drrho/TM-1.25/
Topic Maps, Base Class
----
Text-Patch-1.2
http://search.cpan.org/~cade/Text-Patch-1.2/
Patches text with given patch
----
User-Identity-0.91
http://search.cpan.org/~markov/User-Identity-0.91/
maintains info about a physical person
----
WWW-Robot-0.025
http://search.cpan.org/~kventin/WWW-Robot-0.025/
configurable web traversal engine (for web robots & agents)
----
ack-1.54
http://search.cpan.org/~petdance/ack-1.54/
grep-like text finder


If you're an author of one of these modules, please submit a detailed
announcement to comp.lang.perl.announce, and we'll pass it along.

This message was generated by a Perl program described in my Linux
Magazine column, which can be found on-line (along with more than
200 other freely available past column articles) at
  http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/LinuxMag/col82.html

print "Just another Perl hacker," # the original

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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:05:46 -0600
From: brian d  foy <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected
Message-Id: <080120071305460660%brian.d.foy@gmail.com>

In article <1168280742.609735.326820@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
Ishmael <stahl.karl@gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > I don't think you installed Math::GMP right.
> >
> 
> That was my first thought too, but when I run 'make test', it tells me
> 'All tests successful', so I think it should be ok.

That's just the tests. You still have to install it.

See the perlfaq answers returned from these queries with perldoc:

   % perldoc -q install

   % perldoc -q directory

Good luck!

-- 
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Date: 8 Jan 2007 11:34:35 -0800
From: "DJ Stunks" <DJStunks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected
Message-Id: <1168284875.141010.297540@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>


Ishmael wrote:
> I am trying to get Perl to recognize a module (Math::GMP) that is
> installed in a local directory, i.e. not the same directory as the rest
> of Perl.  I've been trying to use the PERL5LIB environment variable to
> get Perl to search on the correct path, but it doesn't work.

Others have addressed your actual problem, but my question is why use
PERL5LIB in your environment rather than the lib pragma in your script
(er, program? :P)

  perldoc lib

-jp



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Date: 8 Jan 2007 11:56:17 -0800
From: "Ishmael" <stahl.karl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected
Message-Id: <1168286177.699801.69160@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>


DJ Stunks wrote:
> Ishmael wrote:
> > I am trying to get Perl to recognize a module (Math::GMP) that is
> > installed in a local directory, i.e. not the same directory as the rest
> > of Perl.  I've been trying to use the PERL5LIB environment variable to
> > get Perl to search on the correct path, but it doesn't work.
>
> Others have addressed your actual problem, but my question is why use
> PERL5LIB in your environment rather than the lib pragma in your script
> (er, program? :P)
>
>   perldoc lib
>
> -jp

Thanks for the advice.

In answer to the two posts above,

a) I did install GMP, using 'make install'.  No apparent problems.

b) Using the lib pragma also fails.  I've written a simple test script
with these lines:

use lib "/home/kstahl/PERL/MODULE_INSTALL";
use Math::GMP;

I've also tried to add the full path to the actual GMP.so file, but no
matter what I do, I keep getting the same error:

Can't load
'/apps/gnu/perl_local/lib/site_perl/5.6.1/sol2.sun4/auto/Math/GMP/GMP.so'
for
module Math::GMP: ld.so.1: perl: fatal: libgmp.so.3: open failed: No
such file
or directory at /apps/gnu/perl-5.6.1/lib/sol2.sun4/DynaLoader.pm line
206.

Somehow, Perl is bypassing my @INC path.  Now I've been reading a bit
about 'taint' mode, and it seems like that might be causing my
problems.  Does anyone know how to turn taint mode off?



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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 12:09:50 -0800
From: Jim Gibson <jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected
Message-Id: <080120071209502814%jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>

In article <1168284875.141010.297540@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>, DJ
Stunks <DJStunks@gmail.com> wrote:


> 
> Others have addressed your actual problem, but my question is why use
> PERL5LIB in your environment rather than the lib pragma in your script
> (er, program? :P)
> 
>   perldoc lib

Because it is better to define a value in one place rather than in
every source file that needs it?

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Date: 8 Jan 2007 14:39:42 -0800
From: "DJ Stunks" <DJStunks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected
Message-Id: <1168295982.246048.33440@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>

Jim Gibson wrote:
> In article <1168284875.141010.297540@42g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>, DJ
> Stunks <DJStunks@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Others have addressed your actual problem, but my question is why use
> > PERL5LIB in your environment rather than the lib pragma in your script
> > (er, program? :P)
> >
> >   perldoc lib
>
> Because it is better to define a value in one place rather than in
> every source file that needs it?

Yeah, I was just wondering.  In my opinion, it seems like it would be
harder to get a consistent environment (CGI, cron, interactive shell vs
non-interactive shell) than it would be to add the pragma to those
files that needed it.

I also like that the location of the file is "documented" in the
source, rather than relying on external "magic".

But I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla :p

-jp



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Date: 8 Jan 2007 21:40:25 -0800
From: ced@blv-sam-01.ca.boeing.com
Subject: Re: PERL5LIB variable does not work as expected
Message-Id: <1168321225.209765.154660@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>


Ishmael wrote:
> DJ Stunks wrote:
> > Ishmael wrote:
> > > I am trying to get Perl to recognize a module (Math::GMP) that is
> > > installed in a local directory, i.e. not the same directory as the rest
> > > of Perl.  I've been trying to use the PERL5LIB environment variable to
> > > get Perl to search on the correct path, but it doesn't work.
> >
> > Others have addressed your actual problem, but my question is why use
> > PERL5LIB in your environment rather than the lib pragma in your script
> > (er, program? :P)
> >
> >   perldoc lib
> >
>
> a) I did install GMP, using 'make install'.  No apparent problems.
>
> b) Using the lib pragma also fails.  I've written a simple test script
> with these lines:
>
> use lib "/home/kstahl/PERL/MODULE_INSTALL";
> use Math::GMP;
>
> I've also tried to add the full path to the actual GMP.so file, but no
> matter what I do, I keep getting the same error:
>
> Can't load
> '/apps/gnu/perl_local/lib/site_perl/5.6.1/sol2.sun4/auto/Math/GMP/GMP.so'
> for
> module Math::GMP: ld.so.1: perl: fatal: libgmp.so.3: open failed: No
> such file
> or directory at /apps/gnu/perl-5.6.1/lib/sol2.sun4/DynaLoader.pm line
> 206.
>
> Somehow, Perl is bypassing my @INC path.  Now I've been reading a bit
> about 'taint' mode, and it seems like that might be causing my
> problems.  Does anyone know how to turn taint mode off?

Wrong direction...

The error is "libgmp.so.3: open failed" which is the external library
dependency
for Math::GMP.  It's installed separately -- this aspect of the problem
 has nothing to do with @INC.

Normally, Perl looks at the libpth setting for external libraries.
Check
perl -V:libpth.  Is libgmp.so.3 in one of those directories....? Is the
full
path to that library readable...?   Where did you build and install
libgmp...?

-- 
Charles DeRykus


libraries
is that installed.



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Date: 09 Jan 2007 08:10:15 GMT
From: tadmc@augustmail.com
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.7 $)
Message-Id: <45a34de7$0$81355$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net>

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        shrug it off (and take the answer that you got).

    Asking for emailed answers
        Emailed answers benefit one person. Posted answers benefit the
        entire community. If folks can take the time to answer your
        question, then you can take the time to go get the answer in the
        same place where you asked the question.

        It is OK to ask for a *copy* of the answer to be emailed, but many
        will ignore such requests anyway. If you munge your address, you
        should never expect (or ask) to get email in response to a Usenet
        post.

        Ask the question here, get the answer here (maybe).

    Beware of saying "doesn't work"
        This is a "red flag" phrase. If you find yourself writing that,
        pause and see if you can't describe what is not working without
        saying "doesn't work". That is, describe how it is not what you
        want.

    Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
        A "stealth Cc" is when you both email and post a reply without
        indicating *in the body* that you are doing so.

  Be extra cautious when you get upset
    Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
        This is recommended in all Usenet newsgroups. Here in clpmisc, most
        flaming sub-threads are not about any feature of Perl at all! They
        are most often for what was seen as a breach of netiquette. If you
        have lurked for a bit, then you will know what is expected and won't
        make such posts in the first place.

        But if you get upset, wait a while before writing your followup. I
        recommend waiting at least 30 minutes.

    Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
        After you have written your followup, wait *another* 30 minutes
        before committing yourself by posting it. You cannot take it back
        once it has been said.

AUTHOR
    Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> and many others on the
    comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.



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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:35:56 -0500
From: "John W. Kennedy" <jwkenne@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: regex
Message-Id: <XWxoh.34$GY1.12@newsfe10.lga>

Abigail wrote:
> Both 'echo' and pipes are very 
> Unixy things, 

Maybe, but they were available all the way back in MS-DOS 2.0 (although 
the pipes were emulated with disk files and serial execution of processes).

-- 
John W. Kennedy
"The blind rulers of Logres
Nourished the land on a fallacy of rational virtue."
   -- Charles Williams.  "Taliessin through Logres: Prelude"


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:36:11 -0500
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: To do parallel processing..
Message-Id: <g69k5zxqmro.fsf@dhcp-65-162.kendall.corp.akamai.com>

On  8 Jan 2007, rajendra.prasad@in.bosch.com wrote:

> I would like to know is it possible to process the array elements while the
> array itself if being updated(storing elements)  using some parallel
> processing technology in perl...

If the update is only adding elements, you want a queue.  Use shared
memory between two processes.  IPC::ShareLite may work, for example.

collector process:
1) get new data
2) put new data at end of a list (the queue)
3) is the shared memory full?  if yes, go to (1)
4) put the oldest data (at the beginning of the queue) in shared
memory
5) go to (1)

computational process:
1) is there new data in shared memory?  if no, go to (1)
2) get new data and process it
3) empty shared memory

You can get much fancier, but this is probably enough to do what you
need.  It's a basic "dropbox" method.  Note it's not, by far, the only
way to manage data, but the key with parallel processing is to
simplify as much as possible.  The simplest solution will work best; a
complex solution will be a nightmare to debug when bugs could be in 1
of N processes.

If you want more processing, increase the number of computational
processes and give each one a separate shared memory dropbox.

Ted


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Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 21:16:45 GMT
From: Brian Helterline <brian.helterline@hp.com>
Subject: Re: Win32::OLE - saving content of just one worksheet in Excel
Message-Id: <1xyoh.4069$gG5.170@news.cpqcorp.net>

Woland99 wrote:
> Thanks for corrections, Brian.
> 
> but the key part:
> 
> $sheet->Select;
>  $wbook->{ActiveSheet}->SaveAs({ FileName => $fullname_output_file,
> FileFormat => xlCurrentPlatformText } )

Just save the wbook since you already selected the sheet you want.
It worked for me:

@wbook->SaveAs( { ... } );

-- 
brian


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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:12:58 -0500
From: "Jim Carlock" <anonymous@127.0.0.1>
Subject: Re: Win32::OLE - saving content of just one worksheet in Excel
Message-Id: <45a2cffd$0$7665$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>

"Woland99" <woland99@gmail.com> wrote:
: $fullname_output_file =~ s{/}{\\}g;
:
: That was my suspicion too but it does not work.
:
: As amatter of fact Win32::OLE is not picky (in my opinion)
: about forward/backard slash thing.

I agree, WinXP and later (possibly earlier as well) both change
forward slashes to backslashes.

Windows runs into difficulties when spaces 0x20 are inserted
into path and filenames. The way to get around this problem
involves enquoting the string in double-quotes (apostrophes
might work as well, but I've always used quotation marks).
There might be some other special characters that require the
quotation marks as well.

For instance, if the resulting path ends up as...

C:\Program Files\My App\My Data\My Spreadsheet.xls

and that gets placed inside a string variable, $MyExcelFile,
then encapsulate the FQFN in quotation marks.

$QM = "\"";
$MyExcelFile = $QM . $MyExcelFile . $QM;

Hope this helps.

-- 
Jim Carlock
Post replies to the group.




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