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Today's topics:
Re: Create Excel chart from spreadsheet on Un*x? <ron@savage.net.au>
CPAN install difficulties on CentOS 4.4 <dhazer@gmail.com>
Re: CPAN install difficulties on CentOS 4.4 <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
DB access problems <plantz.3@wright.edu>
Re: DB access problems <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Re: DB access problems <plantz.3@wright.edu>
Re: DB access problems <john@castleamber.com>
Re: DB access problems <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Re: DB access problems <john@castleamber.com>
Debug question <plantz.3@wright.edu>
Re: Debug question <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: Debug question <plantz.3@wright.edu>
Re: FAQ 5.2 How do I change, delete, or insert a line i <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Re: How do I convert an array of x-y coordiates in to a <zentara@highstream.net>
Re: perl dbi sybase number of columns? jcharth@hotmail.com
Re: perl dbi sybase number of columns? <DJStunks@gmail.com>
Re: perl dbi sybase number of columns? <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Problems with use locale and regexp felix.ostmann@thewar.de
Re: Problems with use locale and regexp felix.ostmann@thewar.de
running ppm on XP 64 <jpreston@general-steel.com>
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Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:56:10 +1100
From: Ron Savage <ron@savage.net.au>
Subject: Re: Create Excel chart from spreadsheet on Un*x?
Message-Id: <2006123085610.921592@ron>
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:18:51 +1100, fishfry wrote:
Hi
> packages out there. At the moment I'm trying out ChartDirector from
> these guys ... http://www.advsofteng.com/. So far so good.
CPAN is your friend: http://search.cpan.org/~darnold/DBIx-Chart-0.05/
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 09:33:39 -0800
From: "dan" <dhazer@gmail.com>
Subject: CPAN install difficulties on CentOS 4.4
Message-Id: <1167413619.727887.24610@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com>
I just finished install some modules (i.e. Archive::Tar Compress::Zlib
and its dependencies)
because in order to install any other module it needed the above two.
So here's my question, why doesn't cpan come installed with these base
packages so that basic installations can be made from the cpan
interface instead of having to manually install modules?
Is it a setting during install, was there an init script I didn't run?
Any input is greatly appreciated,
Dan
If I'm posting this in the wrong group, please let me know.
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:42:36 -0500
From: Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Subject: Re: CPAN install difficulties on CentOS 4.4
Message-Id: <m27iwawnkz.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
"dan" <dhazer@gmail.com> writes:
> I just finished install some modules (i.e. Archive::Tar Compress::Zlib
> and its dependencies)
>
> because in order to install any other module it needed the above two.
>
> So here's my question, why doesn't cpan come installed with these base
> packages so that basic installations can be made from the cpan
> interface instead of having to manually install modules?
Simple answer: CPAN.pm will use those modules if they're available, but they
aren't required. It'll fall back to executing external "tar" and "gunzip"
commands if the modules aren't available.
Same thing with LWP - CPAN.pm will happily use LWP if it's available, but will
also fall back to external commands like wget, curl, or lynx if necessary.
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 09:31:13 -0800
From: "JoeyP" <plantz.3@wright.edu>
Subject: DB access problems
Message-Id: <1167413472.927353.126090@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
I am new to perl.
I have built an AJAX app that works the way I want it. The app. has a
dynamic scroll list that displays inventory. Right now an array(hard
coded) fills a dynamic list.
I have placed the AJAX app. on a Linux server and can access it from
the web. It is now time for me to query the DB (which I am able to do
already), take that data and pass it to a JavaScript function that will
format the data for my array that will populate the list.
Problem: I don't know how to do that.
Questions: Do I have to build the HTML with statements like print
"<html>\n"; in my CGI?
Am I able to access the JavaScript and pass the data?
I guess I'm not sure about the layout and how to put it together. I
have read and searched online but have not found any examples for what
I want to do. I know there has to be plenty of these applications out
there.
Again, I am trying to query a DB on a Linux server. Use that data to
populate a dynamic scroll list in a HTML doc.
Any help/examples is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:34:41 -0500
From: Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Subject: Re: DB access problems
Message-Id: <m2bqlmwny6.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
"JoeyP" <plantz.3@wright.edu> writes:
> I have placed the AJAX app. on a Linux server and can access it from
> the web. It is now time for me to query the DB (which I am able to do
> already), take that data and pass it to a JavaScript function that will
> format the data for my array that will populate the list.
>
> Problem: I don't know how to do that.
>
> Questions: Do I have to build the HTML with statements like print
> "<html>\n"; in my CGI?
Good $DEITY no! That would defeat the purpose of using AJAX in the first
place. What you want to produce on the server is either XML or JSON, not
HTML. You then use JavaScript on the client to request the XML/JSON data,
and access the DOM to populate the list using the fetched data.
You should be sure to send the correct MIME type from your server script;
neither XML nor JSON is text/html!
JSON is easy to produce from a (possibly complex and/or deeply nested) Perl
data structure - have a look at the JSON module on CPAN.
> I guess I'm not sure about the layout and how to put it together.
The key is that it isn't just a single request, it's two or more. The first
request is for the empty HTML page. Additional requests are then made from
JavaScript, to fetch data in XML or JSON format and manipulate the page's
DOM to format that data.
> have read and searched online but have not found any examples for what
> I want to do.
You've *got* to be kidding. There are AJAX tutorials in abundance out there -
just google for "AJAX tutorial".
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 11:17:10 -0800
From: "JoeyP" <plantz.3@wright.edu>
Subject: Re: DB access problems
Message-Id: <1167419830.292807.277430@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Sherm Pendley wrote:
> "JoeyP" <plantz.3@wright.edu> writes:
>
> > I have placed the AJAX app. on a Linux server and can access it from
> > the web. It is now time for me to query the DB (which I am able to do
> > already), take that data and pass it to a JavaScript function that will
> > format the data for my array that will populate the list.
> >
> > Problem: I don't know how to do that.
> >
> > Questions: Do I have to build the HTML with statements like print
> > "<html>\n"; in my CGI?
>
> Good $DEITY no! That would defeat the purpose of using AJAX in the first
> place. What you want to produce on the server is either XML or JSON, not
> HTML. You then use JavaScript on the client to request the XML/JSON data,
> and access the DOM to populate the list using the fetched data.
>
> You should be sure to send the correct MIME type from your server script;
> neither XML nor JSON is text/html!
>
> JSON is easy to produce from a (possibly complex and/or deeply nested) Perl
> data structure - have a look at the JSON module on CPAN.
>
> > I guess I'm not sure about the layout and how to put it together.
>
> The key is that it isn't just a single request, it's two or more. The first
> request is for the empty HTML page. Additional requests are then made from
> JavaScript, to fetch data in XML or JSON format and manipulate the page's
> DOM to format that data.
>
> > have read and searched online but have not found any examples for what
> > I want to do.
>
> You've *got* to be kidding. There are AJAX tutorials in abundance out there -
> just google for "AJAX tutorial".
>
> sherm--
>
> --
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I see. I'll check out the modules you mentioned. Your right, I have
found gangs of AJAX apps., I was just looking for a CGI I could
manipulate and get something working. Thanks again. I'll see what I can
find out about JSON module on CPAN.
Thanks again.
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 19:39:57 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: DB access problems
Message-Id: <Xns98A88B051B0D3castleamber@130.133.1.4>
Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org> wrote:
> "JoeyP" <plantz.3@wright.edu> writes:
[..]
>> Questions: Do I have to build the HTML with statements like print
>> "<html>\n"; in my CGI?
>
> Good $DEITY no!
Uhm, that depends. There is no problem with sending HTML ("AJAH") if
that's all you need.
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:35:10 -0500
From: Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Subject: Re: DB access problems
Message-Id: <m23b6ywidd.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
John Bokma <john@castleamber.com> writes:
> Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org> wrote:
>
>> "JoeyP" <plantz.3@wright.edu> writes:
>
> [..]
>
>>> Questions: Do I have to build the HTML with statements like print
>>> "<html>\n"; in my CGI?
>>
>> Good $DEITY no!
>
> Uhm, that depends. There is no problem with sending HTML ("AJAH") if
> that's all you need.
I may have misinterpreted him, but I don't think the OP was asking about
that. Based on the "<html>\n" in his message, I think he was asking if a
complete, valid HTML document is required in response to AJAX requests, and
the answer to that is "no".
When the server-side script responds to an AJAX request with HTML text, it
returns a document fragment with only the elements that need to be updated
by the client-side JavaScript, not a complete document.
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 21:07:30 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: DB access problems
Message-Id: <Xns98A899DC9CD06castleamber@130.133.1.4>
Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org> wrote:
> I may have misinterpreted him, but I don't think the OP was asking
> about that. Based on the "<html>\n" in his message, I think he was
> asking if a complete, valid HTML document is required in response to
> AJAX requests, and the answer to that is "no".
Yup true.
--
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 09:37:33 -0800
From: "JoeyP" <plantz.3@wright.edu>
Subject: Debug question
Message-Id: <1167413853.357302.318890@h40g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
I am accessing a (perl)CGI script from an HTML doc. Something is
blowing up in the CGI.
How do I send an 'alert' pop-up message while in the CGI?
I tried print " alert("Error"); "; but that didn't work.
I am new to perl.
Thanks for your help.
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 10:33:04 -0800
From: "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Debug question
Message-Id: <1167417184.701583.311670@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
JoeyP wrote:
> I am accessing a (perl)CGI script from an HTML doc. Something is
> blowing up in the CGI.
> How do I send an 'alert' pop-up message while in the CGI?
You don't. If something is "blowing up" in the CGI program, that
program is not going to correctly create an HTML document that the
browser can render. It is the browser's own Javascript that would
process the alert box.
> I tried print " alert("Error"); "; but that didn't work.
Not surprising...
> I am new to perl.
The problem has nothing to do with Perl and everything to do with CGI.
You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding about what a CGI
program is.
If your Perl program is malfunctioning, you need to look at the error
output and see why it's malfunctioning. Either look in the CGI
server's error log, or put this statement near the top of your program,
right after 'use CGI;'
use CGI::Carp qw/fatalsToBrowser/;
Paul Lalli
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 11:22:41 -0800
From: "JoeyP" <plantz.3@wright.edu>
Subject: Re: Debug question
Message-Id: <1167420161.841194.22240@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>
Paul Lalli wrote:
> JoeyP wrote:
> > I am accessing a (perl)CGI script from an HTML doc. Something is
> > blowing up in the CGI.
> > How do I send an 'alert' pop-up message while in the CGI?
>
> You don't. If something is "blowing up" in the CGI program, that
> program is not going to correctly create an HTML document that the
> browser can render. It is the browser's own Javascript that would
> process the alert box.
>
> > I tried print " alert("Error"); "; but that didn't work.
>
> Not surprising...
>
> > I am new to perl.
>
> The problem has nothing to do with Perl and everything to do with CGI.
> You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding about what a CGI
> program is.
>
> If your Perl program is malfunctioning, you need to look at the error
> output and see why it's malfunctioning. Either look in the CGI
> server's error log, or put this statement near the top of your program,
> right after 'use CGI;'
> use CGI::Carp qw/fatalsToBrowser/;
>
> Paul Lalli
Thanks a bunch Paul.
use CGI::Carp qw/fatalsToBrowser/; worked.
Thanks
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:18:39 -0800
From: brian d foy <brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: FAQ 5.2 How do I change, delete, or insert a line in a file, or append to the beginning of a file?
Message-Id: <291220061018399561%brian.d.foy@gmail.com>
In article <281220061240239668%jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>, Jim Gibson
<jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov> wrote:
> In article <ngkd64-fr8.ln1@blue.stonehenge.com>, PerlFAQ Server
> <brian@stonehenge.com> wrote:
> > 5.2: How do I change, delete, or insert a line in a file, or append to the
> > beginning of a file?
> > To change only a particular line, the input line number, $., is useful.
> > Use "next" to skip all lines up to line 5, make a change and print the
> > result, then stop further processing with "last".
> > while( <$in> )
> > {
> > next unless $. == 5;
> > s/\b(perl)\b/Perl/g;
> > print $out $_;
> > last;
> > }
> This example results in a single line being written to the output file.
> Is that is what is intended by "To change only a particular line"?
I don't think that's what's intended. Often, the code is just part of a
program and you have to fill in the rest, but in this case I can't see
what you'd put before this snippet to make it work out right.
I'll add this of my list of things to update.
Thanks :)
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:45:48 GMT
From: zentara <zentara@highstream.net>
Subject: Re: How do I convert an array of x-y coordiates in to a image?
Message-Id: <hsv9p25l4v4n745bjidur7b603fsbq876i@4ax.com>
On 28 Dec 2006 06:14:23 -0800, Eadmund@letterbee.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Does anyone know how to convert an array of x-y coordinates, plotting a
>shape, in to a image (BMP, GIFF etc) in Perl? I have Image magic etc.
>
>Regards
>Eadmund
PDL does this. You just need to get the dimensions of your array
data into a properly formed piddle, then use the various IO modules
to write the image in your desired format. The wim (write image )
function is probably the easiest.
PDL will want your data in a form something like [3,x,y], where the
3 represents the RGB data. Sometimes its [x,y,3] or even [x,y]
You can use PDL's IO methods to read in your raw data, and convert
it to the desired format. That is usually the trickiest part.
The PDL maillist can be very helpful, but you need to provide a sample
of what your input data looks like.
Here are 3 simple examples:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;
use PDL::LiteF;
use PDL::IO::GD;
# a random color image using GD IO
my $pdl = random( 100, 100, 3 ) * 65525;
write_true_png_ex( $pdl, "$0.png", 9 );
__END__
####################################
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;
use PDL::LiteF;
use PDL::IO::Pic;
# random black and white using wpic
my $pdl = random( 100,100 ) * 65525;
$pdl->wpic("$0.jpg")
__END__
###################################
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;
use PDL::LiteF;
use PDL::IO::Pic;
# random color using wpic
my $pdl = random(3,100,100 ) * 65525;
$pdl->wpic("$0.jpg")
__END__
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 05:48:14 -0800
From: jcharth@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: perl dbi sybase number of columns?
Message-Id: <1167400094.405746.222330@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Thanks guys, yes php is great. I got it with
foreach (@row){
print "$_ ,"
DJ Stunks wrote:
> jcharth@hotmail.com wrote:
> > hello i am using perl dbi with sybase
>
> The whole point of the DBI is to (and I quote) "provide a consistent
> database interface, independent of the actual database being used."
> Therefore it is entirely unimportant that you are querying a Sybase
> database.
>
> > i know that in php is easy to
> > find out the number of columns with any sql query.
>
> Isn't PHP great?
>
> > is there a way to
> > know how many values are stored in the array that stores the result of
> > the query? any code samples? thank.s
>
> did you read the documentation for the module you're trying to use? or
> did you think it would be easier to have us read it to you?
>
> perldoc DBI
>
> hint: pay particular attention to the section on "Statement Handle
> Attributes"
>
> -jp
>
> PS: I've got $5 that says the response to this message will have no
> context at all or will be a top post. I can feel it!
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 10:52:35 -0800
From: "DJ Stunks" <DJStunks@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: perl dbi sybase number of columns?
Message-Id: <1167418354.929608.228690@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
jcharth@hotmail.com wrote:
> Thanks guys, yes php is great. I got it with
>
> foreach (@row){
> print "$_ ,"
>
> DJ Stunks wrote:
> > jcharth@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > hello i am using perl dbi with sybase
> >
> > The whole point of the DBI is to (and I quote) "provide a consistent
> > database interface, independent of the actual database being used."
> > Therefore it is entirely unimportant that you are querying a Sybase
> > database.
> >
> > > i know that in php is easy to
> > > find out the number of columns with any sql query.
> >
> > Isn't PHP great?
> >
> > > is there a way to
> > > know how many values are stored in the array that stores the result of
> > > the query? any code samples? thank.s
> >
> > did you read the documentation for the module you're trying to use? or
> > did you think it would be easier to have us read it to you?
> >
> > perldoc DBI
> >
> > hint: pay particular attention to the section on "Statement Handle
> > Attributes"
> >
> > -jp
> >
> > PS: I've got $5 that says the response to this message will have no
> > context at all or will be a top post. I can feel it!
lmao
I think you all owe me $5. please make cheques or money orders payable
to DJ Stunks :p
-jp
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:46:20 -0500
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: perl dbi sybase number of columns?
Message-Id: <g69fyaymibn.fsf@dhcp-65-162.kendall.corp.akamai.com>
On 29 Dec 2006, DJStunks@gmail.com wrote:
> > PS: I've got $5 that says the response to this message will have no
> > context at all or will be a top post. I can feel it!
> I think you all owe me $5. please make cheques or money orders payable
> to DJ Stunks :p
Heh, I almost posted a reply to you with correct context and quoting
saying "you owe me $5" since you didn't specify the response had to be
from the OP :)
Ted
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 03:16:25 -0800
From: felix.ostmann@thewar.de
Subject: Problems with use locale and regexp
Message-Id: <1167390985.361450.230830@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>
It is realy strange!
first the code:
#####################################
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use locale; ## WONT WORK
use Encode;
my $content = Encode::decode("iso-8859-15","[[lmo:Met\xE0j
alcal\xEDtt]]\n");
$content =~ s!^\[\[[a-z]{2}:.*\]\]$!!gm; ## WONT WORK
# $content =~ s!^\[\[[a-z]{2}:.*\]$!!gm; ## WORK
print $content;
#####################################
This bug? shocked me when i was parsing wikipedia-data.
after 69 articles my importprocess stops ... but he use many cpu-time
... strange.
after some hours i found out that this small code can reproduce the
error. he cant execute the pattern.
without "use locale;" it works. With the second regexp ist works!
(search for only one \] at the end of the line).
I cant believe ... i think he must find out after "[[lmo:" that the
string dont match, why is the \]\] at the end so basic?
Why this affect only after "use locale;"? i set the locale to
POSIX,C,en_GB or de_DE, nothing :( wont work!
What is to do?
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Date: 29 Dec 2006 03:18:34 -0800
From: felix.ostmann@thewar.de
Subject: Re: Problems with use locale and regexp
Message-Id: <1167391114.137296.124110@k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
my $content = Encode::decode("iso-8859-15"
,"[[lmo:Met\xE0jalcal\xEDtt]]\n");
sorry for the newline in the code :(
On 29 Dez., 12:16, felix.ostm...@thewar.de wrote:
> It is realy strange!
>
> first the code:
> #####################################
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> use strict;
> use warnings;
> use locale; ## WONT WORK
> use Encode;
>
> my $content = Encode::decode("iso-8859-15","[[lmo:Met\xE0j
> alcal\xEDtt]]\n");
>
> $content =~ s!^\[\[[a-z]{2}:.*\]\]$!!gm; ## WONT WORK
> # $content =~ s!^\[\[[a-z]{2}:.*\]$!!gm; ## WORK
>
> print $content;
> #####################################
>
> This bug? shocked me when i was parsing wikipedia-data.
> after 69 articles my importprocess stops ... but he use many cpu-time
> ... strange.
>
> after some hours i found out that this small code can reproduce the
> error. he cant execute the pattern.
>
> without "use locale;" it works. With the second regexp ist works!
> (search for only one \] at the end of the line).
>
> I cant believe ... i think he must find out after "[[lmo:" that the
> string dont match, why is the \]\] at the end so basic?
>
> Why this affect only after "use locale;"? i set the locale to
> POSIX,C,en_GB or de_DE, nothing :( wont work!
>
> What is to do?
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Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 13:04:29 -0600
From: "Jerry" <jpreston@general-steel.com>
Subject: running ppm on XP 64
Message-Id: <12paploopp8a43a@corp.supernews.com>
Is it possible to get the ppm gui to run on XP 64? I set the
compatibilitymode to XP, 98 and no luck.
Thanks,
Jerry
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NOTE: due to the current flood of worm email banging on ruby, the smtp
server on ruby has been shut off until further notice.
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#To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
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#where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
#For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
#perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
#sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
#answer them even if I did know the answer.
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End of Perl-Users Digest V10 Issue 10104
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