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Today's topics:
        opening things without the O_LARGEFILE flag <aduitsis@gmail.com>
    Re: opening things without the O_LARGEFILE flag <tzz@lifelogs.com>
    Re: opening things without the O_LARGEFILE flag xhoster@gmail.com
    Re: opening things without the O_LARGEFILE flag <aduitsis@gmail.com>
    Re: Perl equivalent to unix script <tintin@invalid.invalid>
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@augustmail.com
    Re: Printing and Formatting data from hash (or array) <joe@inwap.com>
    Re: Printing and Formatting data from hash (or array) anno4000@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de
    Re: Printing and Formatting data from hash (or array) <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
        Problem installing ExtUtils::Command from CPAN <vfoley@gmail.com>
    Re: Problem installing ExtUtils::Command from CPAN <sisyphus1@nomail.afraid.org>
    Re: Problem installing ExtUtils::Command from CPAN <vfoley@gmail.com>
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 14:51:56 -0800
From: "Athanasios" <aduitsis@gmail.com>
Subject: opening things without the O_LARGEFILE flag
Message-Id: <1162248716.185457.145320@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

Hi everyone,

I am trying to open the /dev/net/tun character device with perl.

In C, I would issue:

open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR)

and continue as usual.

However, when I try to use sysopen in perl like

sysopen(TUNNELDEV, "/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR);

from the strace (truss) output I can see that instead it tries to do:

open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE)

which for some VERY strange reason succeeds but the file descriptor is
left in a bad state, so it is really unusable. For anything I try to do
afterwards, I get a

EBADFD (File descriptor in bad state).


As I have come down to the systel call level, there is no other reason
for this problem that I can think of except the O_LARGEFILE flag.
Indeed, a simple C program works quite fine without that flag.

I also have tried to use POSIX::open but it still adds the flag.

The documentation clearly states that from perl 5.6 and forth, the
O_LARGEFILE will be used whenever possible. But I really need to bypass
this and generate an open system call without it.

Does anyone know any conceivable way to accomplish this? Any help will
be appreciated.

If I should take this question to another group or list more suitable
to get an answer, could you also please indicate that group?

Kind Regards,
Athanasios

(I know, I know, the tun/tap driver may be slightly broken in the
strict sense, but let's leave that outside for a moment.)



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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:11:35 +0000
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: opening things without the O_LARGEFILE flag
Message-Id: <g69iri1gugo.fsf@lifelogs.com>

On 30 Oct 2006, aduitsis@gmail.com wrote:

> The documentation clearly states that from perl 5.6 and forth, the
> O_LARGEFILE will be used whenever possible. But I really need to bypass
> this and generate an open system call without it.
>
> Does anyone know any conceivable way to accomplish this? Any help will
> be appreciated.

While there may be other more appropriate ways, you could use
Inline::C maybe?

Ted


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Date: 31 Oct 2006 05:10:59 GMT
From: xhoster@gmail.com
Subject: Re: opening things without the O_LARGEFILE flag
Message-Id: <20061031001130.276$b9@newsreader.com>

"Athanasios" <aduitsis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am trying to open the /dev/net/tun character device with perl.
>
> In C, I would issue:
>
> open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR)
>
> and continue as usual.
>
> However, when I try to use sysopen in perl like
>
> sysopen(TUNNELDEV, "/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR);
>
> from the strace (truss) output I can see that instead it tries to do:
>
> open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE)
>
> which for some VERY strange reason succeeds but the file descriptor is
> left in a bad state, so it is really unusable. For anything I try to do
> afterwards, I get a
>
> EBADFD (File descriptor in bad state).
>
> As I have come down to the systel call level, there is no other reason
> for this problem that I can think of except the O_LARGEFILE flag.
> Indeed, a simple C program works quite fine without that flag.

Just to make sure it is absolutely nailed down, does the simple C program
stop working fine if you add the O_LARGEFILE in?


> I also have tried to use POSIX::open but it still adds the flag.
>
> The documentation clearly states that from perl 5.6 and forth, the
> O_LARGEFILE will be used whenever possible. But I really need to bypass
> this and generate an open system call without it.

Maybe you could compile perl without large file support?

Or write a small C server that will accept socket connections and
proxy /dev/net/tun over the socket.

Xho

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Date: 31 Oct 2006 02:01:23 -0800
From: "Athanasios" <aduitsis@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: opening things without the O_LARGEFILE flag
Message-Id: <1162288883.321629.159100@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>


xhoster@gmail.com wrote:
> "Athanasios" <aduitsis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I am trying to open the /dev/net/tun character device with perl.
> >
> > In C, I would issue:
> >
> > open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR)
> >
> > and continue as usual.
> >
> > However, when I try to use sysopen in perl like
> >
> > sysopen(TUNNELDEV, "/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR);
> >
> > from the strace (truss) output I can see that instead it tries to do:
> >
> > open("/dev/net/tun", O_RDWR|O_LARGEFILE)
> >
> > which for some VERY strange reason succeeds but the file descriptor is
> > left in a bad state, so it is really unusable. For anything I try to do
> > afterwards, I get a
> >
> > EBADFD (File descriptor in bad state).
> >
> > As I have come down to the systel call level, there is no other reason
> > for this problem that I can think of except the O_LARGEFILE flag.
> > Indeed, a simple C program works quite fine without that flag.
>
> Just to make sure it is absolutely nailed down, does the simple C program
> stop working fine if you add the O_LARGEFILE in?

I 'll confirm that shortly, I haven't tried it yet. But judging from
the system calls I see in truss,  it almost surely won't work.

>
>
> > I also have tried to use POSIX::open but it still adds the flag.
> >
> > The documentation clearly states that from perl 5.6 and forth, the
> > O_LARGEFILE will be used whenever possible. But I really need to bypass
> > this and generate an open system call without it.
>
> Maybe you could compile perl without large file support?
>
> Or write a small C server that will accept socket connections and
> proxy /dev/net/tun over the socket.

Yes, these are valid options, as is the Inline::C idea which the
previous poster suggested. But the general idea is that there *should*
be a way to omit the O_LARGEFILE flag if needed.

Kind Regards,
Athanasios

>
> Xho
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:24:03 +1300
From: "Tintin" <tintin@invalid.invalid>
Subject: Re: Perl equivalent to unix script
Message-Id: <45464399$0$12066$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>


"Mike" <mikedawg@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1162230727.836071.158630@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Ok. . . Well, I'm sure here comes another dumb question.  I'm fairly
> handy with unix and unix scripting, however, I'm terrible at perl.
>
> What I'm looking to do with a perl script is the equivalent of the
> following unix (bash) script:
>
> cat tempfile1 | sort > newfile2; rm tempfile1

Handy at Unix, but still using UUOC?




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Date: 31 Oct 2006 08:10:08 GMT
From: tadmc@augustmail.com
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.7 $)
Message-Id: <454704df$0$81355$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net>

Outline
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      Social faux pas to avoid
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:25:57 -0800
From: Joe Smith <joe@inwap.com>
Subject: Re: Printing and Formatting data from hash (or array)
Message-Id: <s4-dna3p3reS_dvYnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com>

Mike wrote:
> I found the example of this to print all the values
> I have in a hash, but it seems like it is a single array within the
> hash repeating (not printing multiple items in hash):
> 
> while ( ($key,$value) = each %hash ) {
>     print "$key => $value\n";
> }
> 
> However, when I copy all the hash data to an array, and print the
> array, it doesn't show all the duplicated data.

That while() loop _will_ print out each key once and only once.
It does not produce any duplicates and does not skip anything.

Whatever you are doing in your program, it must be more than
what is being shown there.  (I have seen this sort of problem
show up before, but it turns out the programmer had two
different instances of each() on the same hash in nested loops.)

Can you produce any code that we can run to duplicate your problem?
	-Joe


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Date: 31 Oct 2006 15:05:23 GMT
From: anno4000@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de
Subject: Re: Printing and Formatting data from hash (or array)
Message-Id: <4qp71jFo7g1nU1@news.dfncis.de>

J. Gleixner <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> Mike wrote:

[...]

> > 	print $temphash[$n];
> > 	$n++;
> > 	print "\t\t";
> > 	print $temphash[$n];
> > 	print "\n";
> > 	$n++;
> > 	}
> 
> If that actually prints the values you want. You may put the print on 
> one line:
> 
> 	print "$tmphash[$n++]\t\t$temphash[$n++]\n";

You're accessing two different variables.

That's risky.  Perl is, in principle, allowed to evaluate parts of
an expression in any sequence, so the results of the two ++ operations
are not well defined.  I realize the current Perl produces the expected
result, and it's unlikely to change, but the behavior is undocumented.
A safe alternative is

    print "$temphash[ $n]\t\t$temphash[ $n + 1]\n";
    $n += 2;

but isn't a single statement anymore.

Anno


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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:01:20 -0600
From: "J. Gleixner" <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid>
Subject: Re: Printing and Formatting data from hash (or array)
Message-Id: <45477334$0$10305$815e3792@news.qwest.net>

anno4000@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de wrote:
> J. Gleixner <glex_no-spam@qwest-spam-no.invalid> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:

>> If that actually prints the values you want. You may put the print on 
>> one line:
>>
>> 	print "$tmphash[$n++]\t\t$temphash[$n++]\n";
> 
> You're accessing two different variables.
> 
> That's risky.  Perl is, in principle, allowed to evaluate parts of
> an expression in any sequence, so the results of the two ++ operations
> are not well defined.  I realize the current Perl produces the expected
> result, and it's unlikely to change, but the behavior is undocumented.
> A safe alternative is
> 
>     print "$temphash[ $n]\t\t$temphash[ $n + 1]\n";
>     $n += 2;
> 
> but isn't a single statement anymore.

Thanks for the correction Anno.  I knew that and I guess I
was so focused on getting rid of all the print statements
that I over-looked it.


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Date: 30 Oct 2006 20:43:11 -0800
From: "Vincent Foley" <vfoley@gmail.com>
Subject: Problem installing ExtUtils::Command from CPAN
Message-Id: <1162269791.526273.284920@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

Hello clpm,

I am trying to install the ExtUtils::Command module on my Ubuntu (Edgy
Eft) machine, but I seem to fall into a practical joke of some sort,
because I am told during the installation that CPAN.pm cannot install
ExtUtils::Command because ExtUtils/Command.pm isn't found in my @INC.
Could anyone help me out with this problem?  The version of Perl used
on Edgy Eft is 5.8.8.  For more information, I have included the entire
output of what happens when I try to do the installation.

Thanks,

Vincent.

cpan> install ExtUtils::Command
CPAN: Storable loaded ok
Going to read /home/vince/.cpan/Metadata
  Database was generated on Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:23:55 GMT
Running install for module ExtUtils::Command
Running make for R/RK/RKOBES/ExtUtils-Command-1.12.tar.gz
CPAN: Digest::MD5 loaded ok
CPAN: Compress::Zlib loaded ok
Checksum for
/home/vince/.cpan/sources/authors/id/R/RK/RKOBES/ExtUtils-Command-1.12.tar.gz
ok
Scanning cache /home/vince/.cpan/build for sizes
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/t/
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/t/shell_exit.t
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/t/shell_command.t
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/t/eu_command.t
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/t/lib/
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/t/lib/TieOut.pm
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/META.yml
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/lib/
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/lib/ExtUtils/
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/lib/ExtUtils/Command.pm
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/lib/Shell/
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/lib/Shell/Command.pm
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/Changes
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/MANIFEST
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/Build.PL
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/Makefile.PL
ExtUtils-Command-1.12/README
Removing previously used /home/vince/.cpan/build/ExtUtils-Command-1.12

  CPAN.pm: Going to build R/RK/RKOBES/ExtUtils-Command-1.12.tar.gz

Argument "6.30_01" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at Makefile.PL line
22.
Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good
Writing Makefile for ExtUtils::Command
Can't locate ExtUtils/Command.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
/home/vince/perl /home/vince/perl/lib/perl/5.8.7
/home/vince/perl/share/perl/5.8.7 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8
/usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5
/usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .).
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
make: *** [blib/lib/ExtUtils/.exists] Error 2
  /usr/bin/make  -- NOT OK
Running make test
  Can't test without successful make
Running make install
  make had returned bad status, install seems impossible



------------------------------

Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:44:33 +1100
From: "Sisyphus" <sisyphus1@nomail.afraid.org>
Subject: Re: Problem installing ExtUtils::Command from CPAN
Message-Id: <45470e0e$0$5106$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>


"Vincent Foley" <vfoley@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162269791.526273.284920@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
 .
 .
>
>   CPAN.pm: Going to build R/RK/RKOBES/ExtUtils-Command-1.12.tar.gz
>
> Argument "6.30_01" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at Makefile.PL line
> 22.
> Checking if your kit is complete...
> Looks good
> Writing Makefile for ExtUtils::Command
> Can't locate ExtUtils/Command.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> /home/vince/perl /home/vince/perl/lib/perl/5.8.7
> /home/vince/perl/share/perl/5.8.7 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8
> /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5
> /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .).
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
> make: *** [blib/lib/ExtUtils/.exists] Error 2
>   /usr/bin/make  -- NOT OK
> Running make test
>   Can't test without successful make
> Running make install
>   make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
>

Neat joke, indeed :-)

EU::Command is part of core perl with 5.8.7 and 5.8.8 - so definitely should
have been part of your perl to begin with. What became of it ?

Does the module install if you simply download ExtUtils-Command-1.12.tar.gz
from CPAN, extract to some location, cd to that location, and run:

perl Makefile.PL
make test
make install

Are you able to install *any* perl modules at all ? (Sometimes the default
perl installation is not fully functional - and to get a fully functional
version of perl it is necessary to install the perl "devel" version from the
OS installation media. But if we're dealing with a perl that you've built
yourself then this should *not* be the case.)

EU::Command is pure perl, so if all else fails, you might be able to get
things working by copying Command.pm to the ExtUtils directory under one of
the @INC directories. But if you're missing the "devel" installation then
that probably won't be sufficient in itself.

Cheers,
Rob




------------------------------

Date: 31 Oct 2006 04:06:02 -0800
From: "Vincent Foley" <vfoley@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Problem installing ExtUtils::Command from CPAN
Message-Id: <1162296362.431983.202500@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

I just tried installing WWW::Mechanize and IO::Prompt and both failed
because of the absence of ExtUtils/Command.pm in my @INC.

I have downloaded libperl-dev from apt-get, but this hasn't fixed the
problem.  When I went to ~/.cpan/build/ExtUtils-Command-1.12/ and tried
the perl Makefile.PL; make test, I got the same error as before.

Now, I just tried something that I think worked, but I'm not sure: I
copied ExtUtils/Command.pm into my @INC so that I could perform the
manual installation of the module and this worked.  If I run into more
problems, I'll let you know.

Also, I would be interested to know if you guys think I should compile
Perl5 from scratch instead of using the Ubuntu-provided packages; I
know the Ruby guys strongly recommend against using the Debian package
of Ruby because it lacks all sorts of modules that are normally
installed by default.

Vincent

Sisyphus wrote:
> "Vincent Foley" <vfoley@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162269791.526273.284920@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> .
> .
> >
> >   CPAN.pm: Going to build R/RK/RKOBES/ExtUtils-Command-1.12.tar.gz
> >
> > Argument "6.30_01" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at Makefile.PL line
> > 22.
> > Checking if your kit is complete...
> > Looks good
> > Writing Makefile for ExtUtils::Command
> > Can't locate ExtUtils/Command.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
> > /home/vince/perl /home/vince/perl/lib/perl/5.8.7
> > /home/vince/perl/share/perl/5.8.7 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8
> > /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5
> > /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .).
> > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted.
> > make: *** [blib/lib/ExtUtils/.exists] Error 2
> >   /usr/bin/make  -- NOT OK
> > Running make test
> >   Can't test without successful make
> > Running make install
> >   make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
> >
>
> Neat joke, indeed :-)
>
> EU::Command is part of core perl with 5.8.7 and 5.8.8 - so definitely should
> have been part of your perl to begin with. What became of it ?
>
> Does the module install if you simply download ExtUtils-Command-1.12.tar.gz
> from CPAN, extract to some location, cd to that location, and run:
>
> perl Makefile.PL
> make test
> make install
>
> Are you able to install *any* perl modules at all ? (Sometimes the default
> perl installation is not fully functional - and to get a fully functional
> version of perl it is necessary to install the perl "devel" version from the
> OS installation media. But if we're dealing with a perl that you've built
> yourself then this should *not* be the case.)
>
> EU::Command is pure perl, so if all else fails, you might be able to get
> things working by copying Command.pm to the ExtUtils directory under one of
> the @INC directories. But if you're missing the "devel" installation then
> that probably won't be sufficient in itself.
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob



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