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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 9905 Volume: 10
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Mon Oct 30 09:05:57 2006
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:05:05 -0800 (PST)
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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 30 Oct 2006 Volume: 10 Number: 9905
Today's topics:
Re: ActiveState Perl crashs, why ? <someone@somewhere.none>
Re: ActiveState Perl crashs, why ? <someone@somewhere.none>
Re: can someone unban me from freenode irc? #perl ? <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Re: FAQ 2.2 How can I get a binary version of perl? <tintin@invalid.invalid>
Handling a 450,000x450,000 array with Perl francescomoi@usa.com
Re: Handling a 450,000x450,000 array with Perl <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim>
Re: How do I do full access logging including HTTP head <john@castleamber.com>
Re: How do I do full access logging including HTTP head <no@spam.com>
It's regex time again - bigger and badder than ever bef "C3"
Re: It's regex time again - bigger and badder than ever <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: Looking for a lightweight GUI editor on Windows j.m.sedgwick@gmail.com
Re: Looking for a lightweight GUI editor on Windows <john@castleamber.com>
Re: Looking for a lightweight GUI editor on Windows <bg1act@yahoo.com.au>
new CPAN modules on Mon Oct 30 2006 (Randal Schwartz)
Re: perl program for clusters <scobloke2@infotop.co.uk>
Re: Sorting array of hash references <kalyanrajsista@gmail.com>
Re: Sorting array of hash references <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:55:33 +0100
From: "perl" <someone@somewhere.none>
Subject: Re: ActiveState Perl crashs, why ?
Message-Id: <ei4p5v$oo3$1@online.de>
> >>> The error message i got is the typical
> >>> popup window (translated from german):
> >>> perl.exe caused an error an will be closed.
> >> Ouch. That sounds bad.
> >>
> >> I think LWP is pure perl, otherwise I'd first think of an incompatible
> >> DLL from a module somewhere.
> >>
> >> Can you reproduce it, or not reproduce it, with other modules?
> >
> > I had the same kind of crash with XML:Twig. [...]
>
> Maybe if you tried XML::Twig it would have helped. :-)
Ahm, that's what i was meaning of course :-)
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 12:58:56 +0100
From: "perl" <someone@somewhere.none>
Subject: Re: ActiveState Perl crashs, why ?
Message-Id: <ei4pc8$ouu$1@online.de>
> > I detected an older
> > version of ActiveState Perl (5.6.1) which was also installed. I simply
> > removed both ones and reinstalled the actual 5.8.8. Now it seems to
work.
> >
>
> Perl 5.6.1 and 5.8.8 are "binary incompatible". The error you reported is
> fairly typical of what happens when the perl 5.8.8 executable finds a
binary
> built for perl 5.6.1 (or, conversely, when the perl 5.6.1 executable finds
a
> binary built for 5.8.8).
>
> By removing the older version of perl, you've eliminated one way for a
> "binary incompatibility" to arise :-)
I did not expect of such trouble having 2 different (incompatible) versions.
Good to know this.
Thank you,
Zed
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:02:13 +0000
From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: can someone unban me from freenode irc? #perl ?
Message-Id: <g6964e1nbq2.fsf@lifelogs.com>
On 29 Oct 2006, cdalten@gmail.com wrote:
> By the way, I liken Java to a cheap pair of stockings. Both at
> times can have limited functionality and give out at the strangest
> moments.
That analogy feels very strained. I could poke holes in it but I have
to run.
Ted
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:57:04 +1300
From: "Tintin" <tintin@invalid.invalid>
Subject: Re: FAQ 2.2 How can I get a binary version of perl?
Message-Id: <4545b0aa$0$12144$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>
"PerlFAQ Server" <brian@stonehenge.com> wrote in message
news:n6og14-opb.ln1@blue.stonehenge.com...
> This is an excerpt from the latest version perlfaq2.pod, which
> comes with the standard Perl distribution. These postings aim to
> reduce the number of repeated questions as well as allow the community
> to review and update the answers. The latest version of the complete
> perlfaq is at http://faq.perl.org .
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 2.2: How can I get a binary version of perl?
>
> If you don't have a C compiler because your vendor for whatever reasons
> did not include one with your system, the best thing to do is grab a
> binary version of gcc from the net and use that to compile perl with.
> CPAN only has binaries for systems that are terribly hard to get free
> compilers for, not for Unix systems.
>
> Some URLs that might help you are:
>
> http://www.cpan.org/ports/
> http://www.perl.com/pub/language/info/software.html
>
> Someone looking for a perl for Win16 might look to Laszlo Molnar's
> djgpp
> port in http://www.cpan.org/ports/#msdos , which comes with clear
> installation instructions. A simple installation guide for MS-DOS using
> Ilya Zakharevich's OS/2 port is available at
> http://www.cs.ruu.nl/%7Epiet/perl5dos.html and similarly for Windows
> 3.1
> at http://www.cs.ruu.nl/%7Epiet/perlwin3.html .
>
Surely a mention of ActivePerl is appropriate here.
--
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 05:10:07 -0800
From: francescomoi@usa.com
Subject: Handling a 450,000x450,000 array with Perl
Message-Id: <1162213806.942442.5970@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Hi.
I'd like to create a program to handle data (natural numbers)
within a 450,000 x 450,000 array. I'm considering Perl, but
I don't know is it's powerful enough to manage it.
Thank you very much.
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 13:37:56 +0000
From: bugbear <bugbear@trim_papermule.co.uk_trim>
Subject: Re: Handling a 450,000x450,000 array with Perl
Message-Id: <45460034$0$8714$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>
francescomoi@usa.com wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I'd like to create a program to handle data (natural numbers)
> within a 450,000 x 450,000 array. I'm considering Perl, but
> I don't know is it's powerful enough to manage it.
If the data is "not sparse" that's a lot of data.
It's not a question of perl's power, more
your systems.
if the data *is* sparse, it will be crucial to exploit
the sparseness, which is down to the code, either your,
or from a module/library.
BugBear
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 02:37:28 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: How do I do full access logging including HTTP headers?
Message-Id: <Xns986BD1CE11315castleamber@130.133.1.4>
"Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Nu wrote:
>> My webhost has sucky logging. So I'm looking for a perl or PHP
>> script that can do full logging of all the HTTP headers for each hit.
>> I websearched for hours and came up with nothing.
>
> Doesn't surprise me that you didn't find anything.
> Logging can only be done by the tool, that is performing the action.
> In this case the web server is performing the action (= responding to
> HTTP requests), therefore the web server must log its own action.
> There is no way for an external tool to guess what the web server is
> or isn't doing.
I know what you try to say, but it's not true how you wrote it. A simple
proxy that listens on port 80, and having your webserver on 8080 can do
that logging. It's an external tool ;-)
Also there are plenty of ways to plug in an external tool into Apache and
log anything you want.
The easiest is probably to extend the log format to include the headers
the OP wants.
--
John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:19:52 GMT
From: "Nu" <no@spam.com>
Subject: Re: How do I do full access logging including HTTP headers?
Message-Id: <Ysj1h.380670$QM6.250656@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
I'm on a shared hosting and don't have root access and my host just said
their logs are the only ones they give.
"John Bokma" <john@castleamber.com> wrote in message
news:Xns986BD1CE11315castleamber@130.133.1.4...
> "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Nu wrote:
> >> My webhost has sucky logging. So I'm looking for a perl or PHP
> >> script that can do full logging of all the HTTP headers for each hit.
> >> I websearched for hours and came up with nothing.
> >
> > Doesn't surprise me that you didn't find anything.
> > Logging can only be done by the tool, that is performing the action.
> > In this case the web server is performing the action (= responding to
> > HTTP requests), therefore the web server must log its own action.
> > There is no way for an external tool to guess what the web server is
> > or isn't doing.
>
> I know what you try to say, but it's not true how you wrote it. A simple
> proxy that listens on port 80, and having your webserver on 8080 can do
> that logging. It's an external tool ;-)
>
> Also there are plenty of ways to plug in an external tool into Apache and
> log anything you want.
>
> The easiest is probably to extend the log format to include the headers
> the OP wants.
>
> --
> John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
>
> Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 22:17:36 +1100
From: "C3"
Subject: It's regex time again - bigger and badder than ever before
Message-Id: <4545df0f$0$17351$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
Hi everyone,
I have a text line that looks something like the following.
text1
text2
HEADER_1
interesting stuff
HEADER_2
text3
text4
text5
HEADER_3
more interesting stuff
...
HEADER_4
text6
text7
HEADER_3
even more interesting stuff
HEADER_4
text8
text9
HEADER_1
unbelievably interesting stuff
HEADER_2
HEADER_1 and HEADER_2 are corresponding opening and closing tags for one
type of content, with a similar arrangement for HEADER_3 and HEADER_4.
It is possible to write a regex to match either HEADER_1 or HEADER_3, but
can this be extended to match the content, and HEADER_2 and HEADER_4? Is it
possible to write a single regex to match either HEADER_1 or HEADER_3
followed by content followed by the corresponding HEADER_2 or HEADER_4 which
depends on whether HEADER_1 or HEADER_3 was matched?
I need to grab everything between HEADER_1 and HEADER_2, and everything
between HEADER_3 and HEADER_4, while keeping it in order. What would be the
simplest and/or cleanest way of doing this?
Thanks.
C3
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:52:42 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: It's regex time again - bigger and badder than ever before
Message-Id: <slrnekbpsa.anr.tadmc@tadmc30.august.net>
"C3" <"C3"> wrote:
> I have a text line that looks something like the following.
[snip]
> I need to grab everything between HEADER_1 and HEADER_2, and everything
> between HEADER_3 and HEADER_4, while keeping it in order. What would be the
> simplest and/or cleanest way of doing this?
The way that the Perl FAQ suggests.
perldoc -q lines
How can I pull out lines between two patterns that are themselves on difâ€
ferent lines?
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 29 Oct 2006 19:42:55 -0800
From: j.m.sedgwick@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Looking for a lightweight GUI editor on Windows
Message-Id: <1162179775.385099.22360@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
For now I'm trying out EPIC on Eclipse. I'll try that evim thing, but I
just hope the kink in Geany is worked out on Windows, because I just
love the indenting, highlighting, and pure simplicity of it.
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 03:52:35 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for a lightweight GUI editor on Windows
Message-Id: <Xns986BDE8A2FC98castleamber@130.133.1.4>
j.m.sedgwick@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been recently forced to switch back to windows, and I am trying
> to find a nice lightweight editor.
TextPad?
--
John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
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Date: 30 Oct 2006 01:48:16 -0800
From: "goho" <bg1act@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: Looking for a lightweight GUI editor on Windows
Message-Id: <1162201696.367815.84290@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>
j.m.sedgwick@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been recently forced to switch back to windows, and I am trying
> to find a nice lightweight editor. Things like jedit, emacs, notepad++,
> ultraedit, etc. bug me because of all the extras. I'm looking for a
> non-modal one, so gvim isn't an option. If it's any help, some editors
> that I love are gedit (default GNOME), kwrite (KDE), and Geany. Geany
> is supposed to run on windows, but I'm encountering an annoying bug in
> which geany is unable to switch directories (says an obviously existing
> directory doesn't exist) when I use the built in shortcut for running a
> perl script. I can't find any help because geany doesn't have a huge
> fanbase. Hopefully someone can recommend something, because I've spent
> hours trying out various editors I don't like. Perhaps KWrite or gedit
> can be run on cygwin or something?
>
> Thanks in Advance,
> J. Sedgwick
Simplicity - try Textpad or Crimson Editor (has a few more bells and
whistles than TextPad in terms of capure/display of STDOUT etc,
configuration for hot-keys etc - its also the right price).
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 05:41:56 GMT
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal Schwartz)
Subject: new CPAN modules on Mon Oct 30 2006
Message-Id: <J7xp5w.7nH@zorch.sf-bay.org>
The following modules have recently been added to or updated in the
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN). You can install them using the
instructions in the 'perlmodinstall' page included with your Perl
distribution.
Acme-MetaSyntactic-0.98
http://search.cpan.org/~book/Acme-MetaSyntactic-0.98/
Themed metasyntactic variables names
----
Biblio-Isis-0.23
http://search.cpan.org/~dpavlin/Biblio-Isis-0.23/
Read CDS/ISIS, WinISIS and IsisMarc database
----
ClearCase-Argv-1.23
http://search.cpan.org/~dsb/ClearCase-Argv-1.23/
ClearCase-specific subclass of Argv
----
Crypt-CBC-2.22
http://search.cpan.org/~lds/Crypt-CBC-2.22/
Encrypt Data with Cipher Block Chaining Mode
----
Dev-Bollocks-0.06
http://search.cpan.org/~tels/Dev-Bollocks-0.06/
Arbitrary sized bollocks straight from middle management
----
Genezzo-0.68
http://search.cpan.org/~jcohen/Genezzo-0.68/
an extensible database with SQL and DBI
----
Graph-Convert-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Convert-0.03/
Convert between graph formats: Graph and Graph::Easy
----
Graph-Easy-0.49
http://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Easy-0.49/
Render graphs as ASCII, HTML, SVG or via Graphviz
----
Graph-Easy-Manual-0.35
http://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Easy-Manual-0.35/
HTML manual for Graph::Easy
----
Graph-Regexp-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~tels/Graph-Regexp-0.03/
Create graphical flowchart from an regular expression
----
Net-DNS-Resolver-Programmable-0.001
http://search.cpan.org/~jmehnle/Net-DNS-Resolver-Programmable-0.001/
programmable DNS resolver class for offline emulation of DNS
----
Net-Packet-3.00
http://search.cpan.org/~gomor/Net-Packet-3.00/
a framework to easily send and receive frames from layer 2 to layer 7
----
Net-SeedServe-0.2.1
http://search.cpan.org/~shlomif/Net-SeedServe-0.2.1/
Perl module for implementing a seed server (should not be used directly - use Net::SeedServe::Server instead).
----
Net-SinFP-2.03
http://search.cpan.org/~gomor/Net-SinFP-2.03/
a full operating system stack fingerprinting suite
----
Net-Write-0.83
http://search.cpan.org/~gomor/Net-Write-0.83/
an interface to open and send raw frames to network
----
PAR-Repository-Client-0.15
http://search.cpan.org/~smueller/PAR-Repository-Client-0.15/
Access PAR repositories
----
POE-Filter-IRCD-2.2
http://search.cpan.org/~bingos/POE-Filter-IRCD-2.2/
A POE-based parser for the IRC protocol.
----
Parse-Win32Registry-0.24
http://search.cpan.org/~jmacfarla/Parse-Win32Registry-0.24/
Parse Windows Registry Files
----
Rose-DB-0.729
http://search.cpan.org/~jsiracusa/Rose-DB-0.729/
A DBI wrapper and abstraction layer.
----
Rose-DB-Object-0.756
http://search.cpan.org/~jsiracusa/Rose-DB-Object-0.756/
Extensible, high performance RDBMS-OO mapper.
----
Sledge-View-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~tokuhirom/Sledge-View-0.01/
abstract base class for Sledge's view
----
Test-Trap-v0.0.21
http://search.cpan.org/~ebhanssen/Test-Trap-v0.0.21/
Trap exit codes, exceptions, output, etc.
----
Weather-Underground-StationHistory-v0.0.1
http://search.cpan.org/~elliotjs/Weather-Underground-StationHistory-v0.0.1/
Utility functions for dealing with weather station historical data from <http://wunderground.com>.
----
version-0.68
http://search.cpan.org/~jpeacock/version-0.68/
Perl extension for Version Objects
If you're an author of one of these modules, please submit a detailed
announcement to comp.lang.perl.announce, and we'll pass it along.
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Magazine column, which can be found on-line (along with more than
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print "Just another Perl hacker," # the original
--
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:56:10 +0000
From: Ian Wilson <scobloke2@infotop.co.uk>
Subject: Re: perl program for clusters
Message-Id: <QNudnY0SmpLSR9jYRVnytg@bt.com>
usaims wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I'm in the process of writing a program that I can put on an apache
> server which tells me which clusters are in or out of a load balancer.
> I deal with 3 clusters all day long, which at all times, 2 clusters are
> in the load balancer. I would like my boss to go to a web page and see
> green for two clusters and a red for the one that is out. But I would
> like to put this in a timetable graph so that they can see which
> clusters were in at a certain time. Can somebody give some 'keywords'
> to look for in google because I really don't have a clue on where to
> start. My Perl skills are adequate but a little push in the right
> direction will be greatly appreciated.
>
I'd use MRTG (or RRDTool).
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Date: 29 Oct 2006 22:34:15 -0800
From: "alwaysonnet" <kalyanrajsista@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sorting array of hash references
Message-Id: <1162190055.809275.212790@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
hi,
my %type_order = qw/Prefund 1 Receipt 2 Payment 3/;
my @records = (
{ 'Type' => 'Prefund', 'A/C No' => 12345, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'Y' },
{ 'Type' => 'Prefund', 'A/C No' => 45678, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'N' },
{ 'Type' => 'Receipt', 'A/C No' => 78878, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'N' },
{ 'Type' => 'Payment', 'A/C No' => 88888, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'Y' },
{ 'Type' => 'Receipt', 'A/C No' => 32365, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'Y' },
{ 'Type' => 'Prefund', 'A/C No' => 11111, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'N' },
{ 'Type' => 'Payment', 'A/C No' => 56546, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'N' },
{ 'Type' => 'Payment', 'A/C No' => 23456, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'N' },
{ 'Type' => 'Payment', 'A/C No' => 34093, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
'Y' },
);
my @sorted = sort { $type_order{$a->{'Type'}} <=>
$type_order{$b->{'Type'}}
||
$b->{'Status(active/inactive)'} cmp
$a->{'Status(active/inactive)'}
} @records;
which is exactly displaying the active records for a particular account
type.
Can further sorting on 'A/C No' so that all the active/inactive records
for a particular account type should be displayed in sorted order.
Ex: In this case for the type "Prefund" a/c no's 45678 and 11111 are
not sorted where their active/inactive status are "N".
Thanks,
Raj
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:05:20 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sorting array of hash references
Message-Id: <slrnekbqk0.anr.tadmc@tadmc30.august.net>
alwaysonnet <kalyanrajsista@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi,
>
> my %type_order = qw/Prefund 1 Receipt 2 Payment 3/;
>
> my @records = (
> { 'Type' => 'Prefund', 'A/C No' => 12345, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'Y' },
That is a horrid choice of Status key.
Q: is the status active or inactive?
A: yes
huh??
'Status active' => 'Y'
or
'Status' => 'active'
would be much better.
> { 'Type' => 'Prefund', 'A/C No' => 45678, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'N' },
> { 'Type' => 'Receipt', 'A/C No' => 78878, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'N' },
> { 'Type' => 'Payment', 'A/C No' => 88888, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'Y' },
> { 'Type' => 'Receipt', 'A/C No' => 32365, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'Y' },
> { 'Type' => 'Prefund', 'A/C No' => 11111, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'N' },
> { 'Type' => 'Payment', 'A/C No' => 56546, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'N' },
> { 'Type' => 'Payment', 'A/C No' => 23456, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'N' },
> { 'Type' => 'Payment', 'A/C No' => 34093, 'Status(active/inactive)' =>
> 'Y' },
> );
>
> my @sorted = sort { $type_order{$a->{'Type'}} <=>
> $type_order{$b->{'Type'}}
> ||
> $b->{'Status(active/inactive)'} cmp
> $a->{'Status(active/inactive)'}
>
> } @records;
>
> which is exactly displaying the active records for a particular account
> type.
>
> Can further sorting on 'A/C No' so that all the active/inactive records
> for a particular account type should be displayed in sorted order.
Yes.
What happened when you tried it?
If you show us your broken code we will help you fix it.
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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