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Perl-Users Digest Sun, 1 Oct 2006 Volume: 10 Number: 9787
Today's topics:
Embedding the perl, part II <wahab@chemie.uni-halle.de>
Re: fetching own text - $_[0] not a string? (reading news)
Re: fetching own text - $_[0] not a string? <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: fetching own text - $_[0] not a string? <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: fetching own text - $_[0] not a string? <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: Modifying a one-liner <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: Modifying a one-liner <mgarrish@gmail.com>
Re: Modifying a one-liner <wahab@chemie.uni-halle.de>
Re: Modifying a one-liner beartiger@gmail.com
Re: Modifying a one-liner beartiger@gmail.com
Re: Modifying a one-liner (reading news)
Problems with DBI and DBD::mysql (on Mac OS X 10.4, Int <news@chaos-net.de>
Re: Question about a $SIG{__WARN__} handler <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: Whats the best method to encrypt a big data file? <nobull67@gmail.com>
Re: Whats the best method to encrypt a big data file? <RedGrittyBrick@SpamWeary.foo>
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Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:46:37 +0200
From: Mirco Wahab <wahab@chemie.uni-halle.de>
Subject: Embedding the perl, part II
Message-Id: <efov6r$jb0$1@mlucom4.urz.uni-halle.de>
Hi,
after successfully integrating the static perl-lib
into my C++-Programs, I came upon a minor annoyance
I use the perl interpreter (like so many of you
possibly do also) for input file fiddling,
among other uses.
After the C program enters its main function,
I invoke the interpreter with exactly those lines
(which is fairly standard afaik).
static PerlInterpreter *my_perl;
static char *embedding[] = { "", "-e", "0" };
...
int main(int argc, char**argv, char **envp) {
...
PERL_SYS_INIT3( &argc, &argv, &envp );
my_perl = perl_alloc();
perl_construct( my_perl );
// perl_parse(my_perl, 0, argc, argv, envp); // case #1
perl_parse(my_perl, 0, 3, embedding, envp); // case #2
PL_exit_flags |= PERL_EXIT_DESTRUCT_END;
perl_run(my_perl);
...
(done initializing)
What I want to get is: the C-argv's should go
into @ARGV.
If I use 'case #1' from above, the perl interpreter
will *evaluate* all argv's given, what is clearly
not what I want.
In case #2, the @ARGV array will be, of course,
empty, even though the %ENV will be set properly.
I guess it might be necessary to set up a C-loop:
...
for(i=1; i<argc; i++) {
sprintf(buffer, "push @ARGV,'%s';", argv[i]);
sv = eval_pv( buffer, TRUE );
}
...
After this, sending a:
...
sv = eval_pv( "print join \"\\n\", @ARGV;", TRUE );
...
will show the correct C command line arguments on a console.
My question: Can/should this be handled this way?
Is there a more canonical way to tell the perl-interpreter
linked to a program its command line arguments?
(I didn't find a hint in the docs.)
Regards and thanks,
Mirco
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Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:12:49 GMT
From: "Mumia W. (reading news)" <paduille.4058.mumia.w@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: fetching own text - $_[0] not a string?
Message-Id: <RVQTg.8530$UG4.3563@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
On 10/01/2006 06:02 AM, Paul Lalli wrote:
> Vedran wrote:
>> Paul Lalli wrote:
>>> That is a flat-out lie. These scripts are NOT complete. They do not
>>> run on their own.
They probably do run in the OP's environment.
>> Of course, this is, as I mentioned in the subject of the first post, an
>> xchat perl script, you must run them from xchat to get it work :)
>
> I have no idea what "xchat" is, nor do I care. This is a Perl
> newsgroup. Post a SHORT but COMPLETE *Perl* scirpt which demonstrates
> your error. Pare your script down to the shortest possible script
> which still gives you an error. This should be a standard step you
> take in ANY attempt at debugging.
>
> Paul Lalli
>
Paul Lalli, I've valued your posts because you do know something about
Perl, and you do help people. But you are constantly and needlessly
obnoxious to people.
You could have said, "I don't have xchat; if you want me to help you,
give me something that doesn't require anything beyond Perl." Or you
could've said nothing since you don't have the same perl environment
that the OP has and can't help him without that.
*You* changed the subject line--removing the context of the OP's
original post. His context was [xchat]. And /inside/ the OP's message,
he specified that he was using a Perl-Xchat script, and that is a sign
that people who are not using xchat need not respond. You could've
either not responded or pointed him to the xchat newsgroup.
But you had to be rude in your traditional way. I do have respect for
you because you contribute a lot to the group, but I'm tired of the
attitude. Goodbye.
--
paduille.4058.mumia.w@earthlink.net
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Date: 1 Oct 2006 15:53:05 -0700
From: "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fetching own text - $_[0] not a string?
Message-Id: <1159743185.013180.165910@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Mumia W. (reading news) wrote:
> On 10/01/2006 06:02 AM, Paul Lalli wrote:
> > Vedran wrote:
> >> Paul Lalli wrote:
> >>> That is a flat-out lie. These scripts are NOT complete. They do not
> >>> run on their own.
>
> They probably do run in the OP's environment.
.... which makes them not standalone complete scripts.
> Paul Lalli, I've valued your posts because you do know something about
> Perl, and you do help people. But you are constantly and needlessly
> obnoxious to people.
I like to think I'm obnoxious and rude only after a poster shows a
complete disregard for anything in my post that attempts to help him
help us help him. But I will take your opinion under consideration.
> *You* changed the subject line--removing the context of the OP's
> original post.
For what it's worth, not intentionally or manually. Google Groups
seems to have done that all on its own. Not sure why, and I didn't
even notice until you mentioned it. That doesn't remove my
responsibility for noticing, of course.
> His context was [xchat]. And /inside/ the OP's message,
> he specified that he was using a Perl-Xchat script, and that is a sign
> that people who are not using xchat need not respond.
I completely disagree with that assesment. The number of posts in this
group that claim their problem lays in one field when it really doesn't
upon reading the post is staggering.
> You could've either not responded or pointed him to the xchat newsgroup.
Again, never heard of xchat before, so I didn't realize it was anything
relevant to the user's post. Again, didn't see the word "xchat" in the
subject, because the idiotic news reader I'm using decided to strip it.
> But you had to be rude in your traditional way. I do have respect for
> you because you contribute a lot to the group, but I'm tired of the
> attitude. Goodbye.
I'm truly sorry you feel that way. Fare thee well.
Paul Lalli
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Date: 1 Oct 2006 15:54:13 -0700
From: "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fetching own text - $_[0] not a string?
Message-Id: <1159743253.126930.170680@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Mumia W. (reading news) wrote:
> On 10/01/2006 06:02 AM, Paul Lalli wrote:
> > Vedran wrote:
> >> Paul Lalli wrote:
> >>> That is a flat-out lie. These scripts are NOT complete. They do not
> >>> run on their own.
>
> They probably do run in the OP's environment.
.... which makes them not standalone complete scripts.
> Paul Lalli, I've valued your posts because you do know something about
> Perl, and you do help people. But you are constantly and needlessly
> obnoxious to people.
I like to think I'm obnoxious and rude only after a poster shows a
complete disregard for anything in my post that attempts to help him
help us help him. But I will take your opinion under consideration.
> *You* changed the subject line--removing the context of the OP's
> original post.
For what it's worth, not intentionally or manually. Google Groups
seems to have done that all on its own. Not sure why, and I didn't
even notice until you mentioned it. That doesn't remove my
responsibility for noticing, of course.
> His context was [xchat]. And /inside/ the OP's message,
> he specified that he was using a Perl-Xchat script, and that is a sign
> that people who are not using xchat need not respond.
I completely disagree with that assesment. The number of posts in this
group that claim their problem lays in one field when it really doesn't
upon reading the post is staggering.
> You could've either not responded or pointed him to the xchat newsgroup.
Again, never heard of xchat before, so I didn't realize it was anything
relevant to the user's post. Again, didn't see the word "xchat" in the
subject, because the idiotic news reader I'm using decided to strip it.
> But you had to be rude in your traditional way. I do have respect for
> you because you contribute a lot to the group, but I'm tired of the
> attitude. Goodbye.
I'm truly sorry you feel that way. Fare thee well.
Paul Lalli
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Date: 1 Oct 2006 16:04:42 -0700
From: "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: fetching own text - $_[0] not a string?
Message-Id: <1159743882.513710.65040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
Mumia W. (reading news) wrote:
> On 10/01/2006 06:02 AM, Paul Lalli wrote:
> > Vedran wrote:
> >> Paul Lalli wrote:
> >>> That is a flat-out lie. These scripts are NOT complete. They do not
> >>> run on their own.
>
> They probably do run in the OP's environment.
.... which makes them not standalone complete scripts.
> Paul Lalli, I've valued your posts because you do know something about
> Perl, and you do help people. But you are constantly and needlessly
> obnoxious to people.
I like to think I'm obnoxious and rude only after a poster shows a
complete disregard for anything in my post that attempts to help him
help us help him. But I will take your opinion under consideration.
> *You* changed the subject line--removing the context of the OP's
> original post.
For what it's worth, not intentionally or manually. Google Groups
seems to have done that all on its own. Not sure why, and I didn't
even notice until you mentioned it. That doesn't remove my
responsibility for noticing, of course.
> His context was [xchat]. And /inside/ the OP's message,
> he specified that he was using a Perl-Xchat script, and that is a sign
> that people who are not using xchat need not respond.
I completely disagree with that assesment. The number of posts in this
group that claim their problem lays in one field when it really doesn't
upon reading the post is staggering.
> You could've either not responded or pointed him to the xchat newsgroup.
Again, never heard of xchat before, so I didn't realize it was anything
relevant to the user's post. Again, didn't see the word "xchat" in the
subject, because the idiotic news reader I'm using decided to strip it.
> But you had to be rude in your traditional way. I do have respect for
> you because you contribute a lot to the group, but I'm tired of the
> attitude. Goodbye.
I'm truly sorry you feel that way. Fare thee well.
Paul Lalli
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Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 13:35:29 -0400
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: Modifying a one-liner
Message-Id: <x7sli8lz1a.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "b" == beartiger <beartiger@gmail.com> writes:
b> Paul Lalli wrote:
b> You are a spectacular asshole.
>> > Two years ago, someone wrote me this PERL
>>
>> Perl. Not PERL.
b> Then why do *you* spell it PERL here?
b> http://cgi2.cs.rpi.edu/~lallip/perl/spring06/index.shtml
b> Dumbshit.
me thinks you are the dumber shit. that is either a font style that
doesn't have lower case or a graphic style. notice just next to it there
is 'Perl Quotes'.
now that you have shown yourself to be a useless jerk, please go learn
python and bother them. you have no reason to be here.
uri
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Date: 1 Oct 2006 10:49:57 -0700
From: "Matt Garrish" <mgarrish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Modifying a one-liner
Message-Id: <1159724997.294281.295150@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Uri Guttman wrote:
> >>>>> "b" == beartiger <beartiger@gmail.com> writes:
>
> b> Paul Lalli wrote:
>
> b> You are a spectacular asshole.
>
> >> > Two years ago, someone wrote me this PERL
> >>
> >> Perl. Not PERL.
>
> b> Then why do *you* spell it PERL here?
>
> b> http://cgi2.cs.rpi.edu/~lallip/perl/spring06/index.shtml
>
> b> Dumbshit.
>
> me thinks you are the dumber shit. that is either a font style that
> doesn't have lower case or a graphic style. notice just next to it there
> is 'Perl Quotes'.
>
Is junior still trying to post here? I can't decide if he's as stupid
as his writing or if he's writing to the best of his abilities. Either
way, he's the most boring and dimwitted kind of troll...
Matt
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Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:56:55 +0200
From: Mirco Wahab <wahab@chemie.uni-halle.de>
Subject: Re: Modifying a one-liner
Message-Id: <efovq5$jge$1@mlucom4.urz.uni-halle.de>
Thus spoke Uri Guttman (on 2006-10-01 19:35):
>>>>>> "b" == beartiger <beartiger@gmail.com> writes:
> b> Paul Lalli wrote:
> b> You are a spectacular asshole.
> >> > Two years ago, someone wrote me this PERL
> >> Perl. Not PERL.
> now that you have shown yourself to be a useless jerk, please go learn
> python and bother them. you have no reason to be here.
Nietzsche said (in his better times):
<quote>
Many are stubborn in pursuit of the path they have chosen,
few in pursuit of the goal.
</quote>
Regards
Mirco
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Date: 1 Oct 2006 12:15:54 -0700
From: beartiger@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Modifying a one-liner
Message-Id: <1159730154.763410.216300@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
Uri Guttman wrote:
> >>>>> "b" == beartiger <beartiger@gmail.com> writes:
>
> b> Paul Lalli wrote:
>
> b> You are a spectacular asshole.
>
> >> > Two years ago, someone wrote me this PERL
> >>
> >> Perl. Not PERL.
>
> b> Then why do *you* spell it PERL here?
>
> b> http://cgi2.cs.rpi.edu/~lallip/perl/spring06/index.shtml
>
> b> Dumbshit.
>
> me thinks you are the dumber shit.
Methinks if you're going to call other people dumbshits, you should
learn the correct spelling of "methinks", dumbshit.
> that is either a font style that
> doesn't have lower case or a graphic style.
I don't think someone who hasn't found SHIFT on his keyboard is in any
position to comment on fonts or capitalization.
> notice just next to it there
> is 'Perl Quotes'.
Quick quiz for you, Urine Gnatman. Why would an asshole who goes about
on USENET being an asshole by correcting others' capitalization of
"Perl" spell it with ALL CAPS at the top of his index page (whatever
the excuse)? Because he's a dumbshit, that's why.
J
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Date: 1 Oct 2006 12:18:30 -0700
From: beartiger@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Modifying a one-liner
Message-Id: <1159730310.544335.28560@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Matt Garrish wrote:
<snip>
> Is junior still trying to post here?
Are you still posting OT posts here after calling those who do
"morons", moron?
What does your post have to do with the language called Perl, Garrish?
If nothing, what exempts you from posting on topic here?
John
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Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 20:07:40 GMT
From: "Mumia W. (reading news)" <paduille.4058.mumia.w@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Modifying a one-liner
Message-Id: <geVTg.1546$Lv3.1017@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
On 10/01/2006 02:15 PM, beartiger@gmail.com wrote:
> Uri Guttman wrote:
>>>>>>> "b" == beartiger <beartiger@gmail.com> writes:
>> b> Paul Lalli wrote:
>>
>> b> You are a spectacular asshole.
>>
>> >> > Two years ago, someone wrote me this PERL
>> >>
>> >> Perl. Not PERL.
>>
>> b> Then why do *you* spell it PERL here?
>>
>> b> http://cgi2.cs.rpi.edu/~lallip/perl/spring06/index.shtml
>>
>> b> Dumbshit.
>>
>> me thinks you are the dumber shit.
>
> Methinks if you're going to call other people dumbshits, you should
> learn the correct spelling of "methinks", dumbshit.
>
>> that is either a font style that
>> doesn't have lower case or a graphic style.
>
> I don't think someone who hasn't found SHIFT on his keyboard is in any
> position to comment on fonts or capitalization.
>
>> notice just next to it there
>> is 'Perl Quotes'.
>
> Quick quiz for you, Urine Gnatman. Why would an asshole who goes about
> on USENET being an asshole by correcting others' capitalization of
> "Perl" spell it with ALL CAPS at the top of his index page (whatever
> the excuse)? Because he's a dumbshit, that's why.
>
>
> J
>
Beartiger, why am I listening to you troll and abuse people? Oh wait,
I'm not. Goodbye.
--
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Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:31:46 +0200
From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ki=DFner?= <news@chaos-net.de>
Subject: Problems with DBI and DBD::mysql (on Mac OS X 10.4, Intel)
Message-Id: <slrnei02ci.4be.news@maki.homeunix.net>
Hello together,
I have installed the modules DBI and DBD::mysql.
When I try to connect to my MySQL database with this command:
perl -e 'use DBI;use DBD::mysql;
DBI->connect("DBI:mysql:databasename","username","password")'
I get the following error:
*** start error message ***
dyld: lazy symbol binding failed: Symbol not found: _mysql_init
Referenced from:
/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.bundle
Expected in: dynamic lookup
dyld: Symbol not found: _mysql_init
Referenced from:
/Library/Perl/5.8.6/darwin-thread-multi-2level/auto/DBD/mysql/mysql.bundle
Expected in: dynamic lookup
zsh: trace trap perl -e
*** end error message ***
This happens on my Intel Mac.
On my old PPC Mac I can use DBD and DBI::mysql without any problems.
I have been searching the web for the error message without success.
I have no idea what this error means and what I could try to get this
working.
Any help will be appreciated.
Greetings from Germany
Martin
--
perl -e '$S=[[73,116,114,115,31,96],[108,109,114,102,99,112],
[29,77,98,111,105,29],[100,93,95,103,97,110]];
for(0..3){for$s(0..5){print(chr($S->[$_]->[$s]+$_+1))}}'
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Date: 1 Oct 2006 22:17:03 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Question about a $SIG{__WARN__} handler
Message-Id: <me00i2t86351v20jgoh7j4tljefl1p30ee@4ax.com>
On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 14:40:56 +0200, "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
wrote:
>What exactly do you consider reverse about it?
>
> perl -MO=Deparse -we "'aa' < 'bb'"
I considerED (but see below) "reverse" e.g. the fact that in
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
$SIG{__WARN__} = sub { warn $_[0] =~ /uninitialized/ ? 'foo' : @_ };
print undef;
'aa'<'bb';
__END__
I get the warnings for the comparison statement before that for the
print() one:
$ ./foo.pl
Argument "bb" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at ./foo.pl line 9.
Argument "aa" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at ./foo.pl line 9.
foo at ./foo.pl line 6.
However working out this very example suggested me the actual
solution, i.e. precisely that it was all a misunderstanding on my
part. Indeed I missed something obvious: that is that the former ones
are detected at compile time and the latter is not. In fact if I just
change the comparison to
'aa'<$_ for 'bb';
I get:
$ ./foo.pl
Useless use of numeric lt (<) in void context at ./foo.pl line 9.
foo at ./foo.pl line 6.
Argument "bb" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at ./foo.pl line 9.
Argument "aa" isn't numeric in numeric lt (<) at ./foo.pl line 9.
Quite curiously, as a side note, this triggers the additional warning
about void context, also supposedly caught at compile time, which does
not pop out above.
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
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256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: 1 Oct 2006 08:08:45 -0700
From: "Brian McCauley" <nobull67@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Whats the best method to encrypt a big data file?
Message-Id: <1159715325.917022.301090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
thedifferenZ wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> I am trying to encrypt/decrypt a data file using asymmetic keys. I
> tried using Crypt:RSA (Blowfish)
Am I missing something? What is the connection between Crypt::RSA and
Blowfish. Blowfish AFAIK is a symetric cypher.
> The source file is just 500kb, and its taking more than 20 mins to
> encrypt it. Is there any way to encrypt a file with out taking whole
> file content to memory?
Most symetric cypher implementations support this mode of operation.
Asymmetic algorithms are not usually used to encrypt bulk data because,
as you observe, they are slow so there's little incentive to support
this mode.
Perhaps you should use Blowfish to encrypt the bulk data with a random
key, and RSA to encrypt the key.
Or you could just use PGP that combines symetric and asymetric.
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Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:39:28 +0100
From: RedGrittyBrick <RedGrittyBrick@SpamWeary.foo>
Subject: Re: Whats the best method to encrypt a big data file?
Message-Id: <qYKdndEcnLV4lb3YRVny2g@bt.com>
thedifferenZ wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> I am trying to encrypt/decrypt a data file using asymmetic keys. I
> tried using Crypt:RSA (Blowfish)
RSA is not Blowfish.
I can't see any reference to Blowfish in your actual code nor in a quick
glance at the docs for Crypt::RSA.
>
> The source file is just 500kb, and its taking more than 20 mins to
> encrypt it.
As Brian says, Asymmetric encryption is generally slower than symmetric.
AFAIK the conventional approach is to generate a random key, use that
for a fast symmetric encryption of the plaintext, then use asymmetic
encription to encrypt the random key and include the encrypted random
key with the main ciphertext.
The recipient uses their asymmetric key to decode the random key which
can then be used to decipher the ciphertext.
> Is there any way to encrypt a file with out taking whole
> file content to memory?
Block mode?
>
> ========================================================
> use strict;
> use Crypt::RSA;
> my $rsa = new Crypt::RSA;
> my $public = new Crypt::RSA::Key::Public(Filename => 'public.txt');
> my $private = new Crypt::RSA::Key::Private(Filename => 'private.txt');
>
> open(DAT,"data.mpg");
> my $message;
> while(<DAT>){
> $message.=$_;
> }
> close(DAT);
> my $cyphertext = $rsa->encrypt (
> Message => $message,
> Key => $public,
> Armour => 1,
> ) || die $rsa->errstr();
>
> open(WRT,">encrypted.txt");
> print WRT $cyphertext;
> close(WRT);
> ========================================================
>
> thanks
>
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#perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
#sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
#answer them even if I did know the answer.
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