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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 5 Sep 2006 Volume: 10 Number: 9690
Today's topics:
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun (Randal L. Schwartz)
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <syscjm@gwu.edu>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <john@castleamber.com>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <David.Squire@no.spam.from.here.au>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <john@castleamber.com>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun axel@white-eagle.invalid.uk
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <robby.walker@gmail.com>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <robby.walker@gmail.com>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <john@castleamber.com>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <robby.walker@gmail.com>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <David.Squire@no.spam.from.here.au>
Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org laun <sbryce@scottbryce.com>
Win32::GuiTest missing some functions <google.com@zaxon.e4ward.com>
Re: Win32::GuiTest missing some functions <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
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Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:02:58 -0500
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <slrnefr7ti.1fk.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
Why would we need a website that contains the same information
as what is already available on our hard disks?
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 05 Sep 2006 10:11:11 -0700
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <86veo21bo0.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
>>>>> "Tad" == Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> writes:
Tad> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
Tad> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
Tad> as what is already available on our hard disks?
Tad, you clearly don't understand.
** It's AJAX! **
:-)
--
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:00:14 -0400
From: Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <12fri9vk6mpb20d@corp.supernews.com>
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>"Tad" == Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> writes:
>
>
> Tad> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
>
>
>
> Tad> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
> Tad> as what is already available on our hard disks?
>
> Tad, you clearly don't understand.
>
> ** It's AJAX! **
>
> :-)
>
I've always used Comet myself.
--
Christopher Mattern
"Which one you figure tracked us?"
"The ugly one, sir."
"...Could you be more specific?"
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:10:51 -0400
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <x7ac5e5dtw.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "CM" == Chris Mattern <syscjm@gwu.edu> writes:
CM> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>> "Tad" == Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> writes:
Tad> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
Tad> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
Tad> as what is already available on our hard disks?
>> Tad, you clearly don't understand.
>> ** It's AJAX! **
>> :-)
>>
CM> I've always used Comet myself.
<WAY OFF TOPIC>
"comet will make your mouth turn green,
comet is made with gasoline,
comet will make you vomit so get some comet today"
dunno why that camp/grade school song popped into my brane. sing it to
the tune of the bridge on the river kwai whistle theme.
</WAY OFF TOPIC>
uri
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Date: 5 Sep 2006 19:47:13 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <Xns9835966B8C0F0castleamber@130.133.1.4>
Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote:
> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
>
>
> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
> as what is already available on our hard disks?
1) Find free content that nobody has exploited yet
2) put it on your site
3) spam it on digg, Usenet, etc.
4) ????
5) profit
--
John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:54:17 +0100
From: David Squire <David.Squire@no.spam.from.here.au>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <edkkl9$sur$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>
John Bokma wrote:
> Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
>>
>> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
>> as what is already available on our hard disks?
>
> 1) Find free content that nobody has exploited yet
> 2) put it on your site
> 3) spam it on digg, Usenet, etc.
> 4) ????
> 5) profit
>
Does step 4 involve gnomes?
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Date: 5 Sep 2006 20:27:46 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <Xns98359D4B8278Fcastleamber@130.133.1.4>
David Squire <David.Squire@no.spam.from.here.au> wrote:
> John Bokma wrote:
>> Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
>>>
>>> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
>>> as what is already available on our hard disks?
>>
>> 1) Find free content that nobody has exploited yet
>> 2) put it on your site
>> 3) spam it on digg, Usenet, etc.
>> 4) ????
>> 5) profit
>>
>
> Does step 4 involve gnomes?
I have sometimes the feeling that step 4 can be ignored when one puts
advertisements on the site :-)
--
John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:02:47 GMT
From: axel@white-eagle.invalid.uk
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <XBlLg.9248$cw.826@fed1read03>
David Squire <David.Squire@no.spam.from.here.au> wrote:
> John Bokma wrote:
>> Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote:
>>> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
>>> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
>>> as what is already available on our hard disks?
>> 1) Find free content that nobody has exploited yet
>> 2) put it on your site
>> 3) spam it on digg, Usenet, etc.
>> 4) ????
>> 5) profit
> Does step 4 involve gnomes?
No... that would be a step (6) bank profits with the gnomes of Zurich.
Axel
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Date: 5 Sep 2006 14:05:28 -0700
From: "Robby Walker" <robby.walker@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <1157490328.561287.42240@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>
Hi Tad,
The ultimate purpose of the site is to make a quicker way to access all
of this information - whether or not you have local copies. Soon I'll
be adding a full CPAN modules list and more to the site. If there's
content you'd like to see posted I'm very open to feedback.
Thanks,
Robby
Tad McClellan wrote:
> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
>
>
> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
> as what is already available on our hard disks?
>
>
> --
> Tad McClellan SGML consulting
> tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
> Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 5 Sep 2006 14:08:24 -0700
From: "Robby Walker" <robby.walker@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <1157490504.067378.30040@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
However, I have failed to mark it as 'Beta' - thus failing to meet full
Web 2.0 compliance. ;)
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> >>>>> "Tad" == Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> writes:
>
> Tad> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
>
>
> Tad> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
> Tad> as what is already available on our hard disks?
>
> Tad, you clearly don't understand.
>
> ** It's AJAX! **
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
> <merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
> See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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Date: 5 Sep 2006 21:19:43 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <Xns9835A619A49C7castleamber@130.133.1.4>
"Robby Walker" <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
> However, I have failed to mark it as 'Beta' - thus failing to meet
> full Web 2.0 compliance. ;)
Don't worry, your posting behavior can be marked as Alpha, so I guess we
can call it even.
--
John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
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Date: 5 Sep 2006 14:27:54 -0700
From: "Robby Walker" <robby.walker@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <1157491674.498101.221610@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
John,
I honestly believe this is a tool that Perl programmers might find
useful. I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I apologize.
- Robby
John Bokma wrote:
> "Robby Walker" <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > However, I have failed to mark it as 'Beta' - thus failing to meet
> > full Web 2.0 compliance. ;)
>
> Don't worry, your posting behavior can be marked as Alpha, so I guess we
> can call it even.
>
>
> --
> John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
>
> Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:30:48 +0100
From: David Squire <David.Squire@no.spam.from.here.au>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <edkqa8$afp$1@gemini.csx.cam.ac.uk>
axel@white-eagle.invalid.uk wrote:
> David Squire <David.Squire@no.spam.from.here.au> wrote:
>> John Bokma wrote:
>>> Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Robby Walker <robby.walker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> QuickRef.org : AJAX-powered site searches for documentation on Perl,
>
>>>> Why would we need a website that contains the same information
>>>> as what is already available on our hard disks?
>
>>> 1) Find free content that nobody has exploited yet
>>> 2) put it on your site
>>> 3) spam it on digg, Usenet, etc.
>>> 4) ????
>>> 5) profit
>
>> Does step 4 involve gnomes?
>
> No... that would be a step (6) bank profits with the gnomes of Zurich.
No no :) It's step 4 (well, it should be 2) with the Underpants Gnomes. [1]
DS
[1] Google it :)
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 15:45:20 -0600
From: Scott Bryce <sbryce@scottbryce.com>
Subject: Re: Ultimate programmer's reference - Quickref.org launches
Message-Id: <mPSdnS2yVcl2cmDZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Robby Walker wrote:
> I honestly believe this is a tool that Perl programmers might find
> useful. I didn't mean to offend anyone, and I apologize.
It is nothing more than the docs for perlfunc at CPAN in an i-frame on
your site. Why would we find this useful? If we want to search the docs
on line, we can already do so at perldoc.perl.org.
I think what urks people here is that you have taken an on-line resource
that we already have available to us, put it in an i-frame in your site
and are trying to sell it as a new resource. Isn't that dishonest?
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Date: 5 Sep 2006 11:13:06 -0700
From: "Zaxon" <google.com@zaxon.e4ward.com>
Subject: Win32::GuiTest missing some functions
Message-Id: <1157479986.605752.38080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
I've been reading through some of the examples for Win32::GuiTest. I
have this module installed in my ActivePerl system.
The main methods for GuiTest are working - indicating that the module
does exist and is installed correctly (via PPM).
However, there are certain methods listed in numereous places on the
web which claim to be using them directly from Win32::GuiTest.
However, they don't exist at all in my GuiTest module using qw(:ALL).
Examples of such methods are: MenuSelect, WaitWindowLike, WaitWindow
etc. Evidence of this can be seen at
http://search.cpan.org/~ctrondlp/Win32-GuiTest-1_50.5/GuiTest.pm
Have these methods been removed from GuiTest? Are they in some other
version etc? Is it only ActiveState's version that is missing them,
etc? The version of Win32::GuiTest on CPAN is 1.3, the same version
number on my system.
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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:51:51 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Win32::GuiTest missing some functions
Message-Id: <Xns9835B5BAEAA65asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
"Zaxon" <google.com@zaxon.e4ward.com> wrote in
news:1157479986.605752.38080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
> I've been reading through some of the examples for Win32::GuiTest. I
> have this module installed in my ActivePerl system.
>
> The main methods for GuiTest are working - indicating that the module
> does exist and is installed correctly (via PPM).
>
> However, there are certain methods listed in numereous places on the
> web which claim to be using them directly from Win32::GuiTest.
> However, they don't exist at all in my GuiTest module using qw(:ALL).
> Examples of such methods are: MenuSelect, WaitWindowLike, WaitWindow
> etc. Evidence of this can be seen at
> http://search.cpan.org/~ctrondlp/Win32-GuiTest-1_50.5/GuiTest.pm
Evidence of what can be seen there? That the methods are missing, or
that if you browse the source, the methods are there?
The methods are definitely in the GuiTest.pm file.
So, I upgraded to this latest version using ppm.
I noticed:
Installing C:\opt\Perl\site\lib\Win32\guitest.pm
There is your problem. The file will be found when (because Windows is
case-insensitive) upon encountering the use statement, but Perl's
namespace lookup will fail.
> Have these methods been removed from GuiTest? Are they in some other
> version etc? Is it only ActiveState's version that is missing them,
> etc?
The methods are not missing. The .pm file is installed with the wrong
capitalization. Change in to GuiTest.pm for the short term fix. For the
long term solution, file a bug report with ActiveState.
The following program works:
#!/usr/bin/perl
use strict;
use warnings;
use Win32::GuiTest qw( SendKeys WaitWindow );
system 'start sol.exe';
WaitWindow( '^Solitaire' );
sleep 3;
SendKeys('%{F4}');
Sinan
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