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[regexp] matching word, but not beetween... maciekkus@gmail.com
Re: [regexp] matching word, but not beetween... <john@castleamber.com>
Re: [regexp] matching word, but not beetween... anno4000@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de
Re: ActiveState Perl configuration - encountering an er <mgarrish@gmail.com>
Re: ActiveState Perl configuration - encountering an er <sisyphus1@nomail.afraid.org>
Re: Hi Guys ! <mgarrish@gmail.com>
Re: how to get the output from: Win32::Process::Create <sisyphus1@nomail.afraid.org>
Re: how to get the output from: Win32::Process::Create <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Re: matching word, but not beetween... <mritty@gmail.com>
new CPAN modules on Fri Sep 1 2006 (Randal Schwartz)
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:28:03 -0700
From: maciekkus@gmail.com
Subject: [regexp] matching word, but not beetween...
Message-Id: <1157066883.688675.4930@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
Hello,
How can I use regular expressions to match:
"this is <b>bold and big</b> and this is not bold and big"
I would like regexp to match "bold and big" sentence but not when
inside <b> tag.
Any help?
Regards
Maciek
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Date: 1 Sep 2006 02:16:26 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: [regexp] matching word, but not beetween...
Message-Id: <Xns9830D8682EE1Acastleamber@130.133.1.4>
maciekkus@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> How can I use regular expressions to match:
>
> "this is <b>bold and big</b> and this is not bold and big"
>
> I would like regexp to match "bold and big" sentence but not when
> inside <b> tag.
If you're processing HTML you might safe yourself a lot of trouble using
modules that could handle HTML. For example, parse the HTML into a tree
using HTML::TreeBuilder and next deleting all b elements might safe you a
lot of trouble.
--
John Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
Perl help, tutorials, and examples: http://johnbokma.com/perl/
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Date: 1 Sep 2006 08:50:38 GMT
From: anno4000@radom.zrz.tu-berlin.de
Subject: Re: [regexp] matching word, but not beetween...
Message-Id: <4lqaiuF364loU1@news.dfncis.de>
<maciekkus@gmail.com> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> Hello,
>
> How can I use regular expressions to match:
>
> "this is <b>bold and big</b> and this is not bold and big"
>
> I would like regexp to match "bold and big" sentence but not when
> inside <b> tag.
Take a look at the FAQ: "How can I split a [character] delimited string
except when inside [character]?". It's about splitting, not matching
but the problems are related.
Anno
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 15:44:16 -0700
From: "Matt Garrish" <mgarrish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: ActiveState Perl configuration - encountering an error
Message-Id: <1157064255.920415.282140@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
frank@rangersnorth.net wrote:
> Matt Garrish wrote:
> > The most likely causes are a firewall, no internet connectivity on the
> > machine, or that their repositories were offline for whatever reason
> > when you were trying to connect.
> >
> > PPM will first search the repository for a matching ppd file, and if
> > one is found it will use the instructions in the file to download and
> > install the module for you. If you have internet connectivity on the
> > box there shouldn't be any problem running the program.
> >
> > You could always try installing another repository as per the
> > documentation. Randy Kobe's theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca repository is usually
> > much better than ActiveState's anyway.
> >
>
> As I have internet connectivity, I'm assuming that it's having a
> problem with the firewall. I guess my question then becomes, what
> technology is PPM using to access ActivePerl's site? Is it HTTP or
> FTP?
>
PPM runs over HTTP. There's a whole section in the documentation on how
to configure PPM to get around the problem of firewalls and proxies.
I'm assuming you have read the manual over and tried the methods
presented there?
> But, regarding your alternative, it seems possible that I can download
> what I need from either ActiveState's website or Randy Kobe's site and
> then install from there without issue.
AS has a zip archive, but it's generally more out of date than their
repository. I would try and discover what your problem is before
resorting to it.
Matt
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:43:14 +1000
From: "Sisyphus" <sisyphus1@nomail.afraid.org>
Subject: Re: ActiveState Perl configuration - encountering an error
Message-Id: <44f766fc$0$5105$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
<frank@rangersnorth.net> wrote in message
news:1157055465.000000.63340@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> My apologies if this isn't the best place to post this question, but
> its the best I could find.
Imho, you're better to post to the perl-win32-users list hosted by
ActiveState. See http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/ .
(You need to first subscribe.)
>
> "Error: No valid repositories: Error 500: Can't connect to
> ppm.ActiveState.com:80 (connect: Unknown error) Error: 500 Can't
> connect to ppm.ActiveState.com:80 (connect: Unknown error)"
>
As others have pointed out, it's probably a firewall issue. ActivePerl comes
with documentation that tells you how to deal with this.
Browse to C:\Perl\html\index.html (amend in accordance to where you've
actually installed Perl). In the left hand frame, a few lines down you'll
see a link to "using PPM". That leads to a link to "PPM, Proxies and
Firewalls" that tells you how to deal with firewalls and proxies.
Cheers,
Rob
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:57:37 -0700
From: "Matt Garrish" <mgarrish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Hi Guys !
Message-Id: <1157068656.973456.282920@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>
Justin C wrote:
> On 2006-08-31, rock <rajeshmvj@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes
> > i will explain i want to know abt the latest recuitment in perl for 1
> > year experienced programmars
>
> AFAIK perl is not an employer TICBW.
>
>
Punctuating your sentences with acronyms when replying to someone who
obiovusly doesn't speak English as a first language doesn't help, but
AFAIK IIRC, WYSIWYG, TICBW, TMTOWTDI...
Matt
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 09:06:11 +1000
From: "Sisyphus" <sisyphus1@nomail.afraid.org>
Subject: Re: how to get the output from: Win32::Process::Create
Message-Id: <44f76c5e$0$11408$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
<joez3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1157050689.570167.105340@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
.
.
> I am using Win32::Process::Create to start up
> an exe. I can get exe to start, but I need to get what is put out on
> the command prompt.
> If i try text.exe > temp.txt I can start the exe and the temp.txt file
> gets created, but nothing is in it. The text is put in another command
> prompt window.
You can have the output of the executable appear in the *same* command
window by simply specifying 0 or NORMAL_PRIORITY_CLASS as the fifth argument
to Create().
(In a subsequent post you specified DETACHED_PROCESS - and that hides the
output.)
Does that solve the problem ?
Cheers,
Rob
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 08:22:40 +0200
From: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: how to get the output from: Win32::Process::Create
Message-Id: <slrneffkdk.933.hjp-usenet2@yoyo.hjp.at>
On 2006-08-31 20:05, Paul Lalli <mritty@gmail.com> wrote:
> You apparently have two requirements. One is that you need to capture
> the output of the program. The other is that you need to get the pid
> of the program so you can later kill it. These two requirements
> seem, to me, to be contraditory. The only way it makes sense is if
> you don't want your Perl script to do anything else while this program
> is running.
Actually, I think it's just the contrary. If he didn't want to do
anything while the other program was running, he could use
backticks. But apparently he does at least have to decide whether to
kill the program, so he needs more control.
I don't know about Windows, in Unix you would do this with fork and
exec:
my $pid = fork();
die "can't fork: $!" unless defined $pid;
my ($rfh, $wfh);
pipe($rfh, $wfh) or die "can't create pipe: $!";
if ($pid == 0) {
# child: redirect stdout and start program
open(STDOUT, ">&$wfh";
close($rfh);
exec($app);
} else {
# parent: read from pipe
close($wfh);
while (<$rfh>) {
# do something
if (needs_killin()) {
kill $pid;
}
}
wait();
}
hp
--
_ | Peter J. Holzer | > Wieso sollte man etwas erfinden was nicht
|_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | > ist?
| | | hjp@hjp.at | Was sonst wäre der Sinn des Erfindens?
__/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- P. Einstein u. V. Gringmuth in desd
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Date: 31 Aug 2006 17:41:46 -0700
From: "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: matching word, but not beetween...
Message-Id: <1157071306.176723.37020@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
maciekkus@gmail.com wrote:
> How can I use regular expressions to match:
>
> "this is <b>bold and big</b> and this is not bold and big"
>
> I would like regexp to match "bold and big" sentence but not when
> inside <b> tag.
>
> Any help?
Take a look at
perldoc perlre
and search for "lookahead" and "lookbehind"
[untested]
m#(?<!<b>)bold and big(?!</b>)#;
Paul Lalli
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 04:42:09 GMT
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal Schwartz)
Subject: new CPAN modules on Fri Sep 1 2006
Message-Id: <J4wD29.48w@zorch.sf-bay.org>
The following modules have recently been added to or updated in the
Comprehensive Perl Archive Network (CPAN). You can install them using the
instructions in the 'perlmodinstall' page included with your Perl
distribution.
AFS-2.4.0
http://search.cpan.org/~maxis/AFS-2.4.0/
Perl interface to AFS programming APIs
----
Alvis-Pipeline-0.11
http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/Alvis-Pipeline-0.11/
Perl extension for passing XML documents along the Alvis pipeline
----
Authen-Passphrase-0.003
http://search.cpan.org/~zefram/Authen-Passphrase-0.003/
hashed passwords/passphrases as objects
----
BSD-Sysctl-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~dland/BSD-Sysctl-0.02/
Fetch sysctl values from BSD-like systems
----
BSD-Sysctl-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~dland/BSD-Sysctl-0.03/
Fetch sysctl values from BSD-like systems
----
CGI-FormBuilder-3.04
http://search.cpan.org/~nwiger/CGI-FormBuilder-3.04/
Easily generate and process stateful forms
----
CGI-FormBuilder-3.04b
http://search.cpan.org/~nwiger/CGI-FormBuilder-3.04b/
Easily generate and process stateful forms
----
CPAN-1.87_58
http://search.cpan.org/~andk/CPAN-1.87_58/
query, download and build perl modules from CPAN sites
----
Chart-Clicker-1.0.4
http://search.cpan.org/~gphat/Chart-Clicker-1.0.4/
Powerful, extensible charting.
----
Data-Dumper-HTML-v0.0.1
http://search.cpan.org/~dmuey/Data-Dumper-HTML-v0.0.1/
Perl extension to dump data in HTML safe format with syntax highlighting
----
Data-RoundRobin-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~gugod/Data-RoundRobin-0.03/
Serve data in a round robin manner.
----
Linux-Sysfs-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~flora/Linux-Sysfs-0.01/
Perl interface to libsysfs
----
Net-Google-Calendar-0.3
http://search.cpan.org/~simonw/Net-Google-Calendar-0.3/
programmatic access to Google's Calendar API
----
Net-Z3950-ZOOM-1.11
http://search.cpan.org/~mirk/Net-Z3950-ZOOM-1.11/
Perl extension for invoking the ZOOM-C API.
----
POE-Component-IRC-5.00
http://search.cpan.org/~bingos/POE-Component-IRC-5.00/
a fully event-driven IRC client module.
----
PPI-1.116
http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/PPI-1.116/
Parse, Analyze and Manipulate Perl (without perl)
----
Params-Profile-0.10
http://search.cpan.org/~michiel/Params-Profile-0.10/
module for registering Parameter profiles
----
SGML-Parser-OpenSP-0.99
http://search.cpan.org/~maxis/SGML-Parser-OpenSP-0.99/
Parse SGML documents using OpenSP
----
Spork-S5ThemeBlue-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~fmerges/Spork-S5ThemeBlue-0.02/
Blue Theme for Spork::S5
----
Spork-S5ThemePixel-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~fmerges/Spork-S5ThemePixel-0.02/
Pixel Theme for Spork::S5
----
Test-TestCoverage-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~reneeb/Test-TestCoverage-0.02/
Test if your test covers all 'public' methods of the package
----
Tie-Trace-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~ktat/Tie-Trace-0.02/
easy print debugging with tie
----
Tie-Trace-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~ktat/Tie-Trace-0.03/
easy print debugging with tie
----
Tie-iCal-0.14
http://search.cpan.org/~bsdz/Tie-iCal-0.14/
Tie iCal files to Perl hashes.
----
Time-Piece-Adaptive-0.02
http://search.cpan.org/~dprice/Time-Piece-Adaptive-0.02/
subclass of Time::Piece which allows the default stringification function to be set.
----
WWW-CybozuOffice6-0.04
http://search.cpan.org/~kazuho/WWW-CybozuOffice6-0.04/
Perl extension for accessing Cybozu Office 6
----
WWW-Mechanize-XML-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~whiteb/WWW-Mechanize-XML-0.01/
adds an XML DOM accessor to WWW::Mechanize.
----
WWW-Shorten-0rz-0.03
http://search.cpan.org/~gugod/WWW-Shorten-0rz-0.03/
Shorten URL using 0rz.net
----
Wiki-Toolkit-0.71
http://search.cpan.org/~dom/Wiki-Toolkit-0.71/
A toolkit for building Wikis.
----
Win32-TSA-Notify-0.01
http://search.cpan.org/~thw/Win32-TSA-Notify-0.01/
Win32 Taskbar Status Area Notification System
----
typesafety-0.05
http://search.cpan.org/~swalters/typesafety-0.05/
compile-time object type usage static analysis
If you're an author of one of these modules, please submit a detailed
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Date: 01 Sep 2006 07:22:05 GMT
From: tadmc@augustmail.com
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.6 $)
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First make a short (less than 20-30 lines) and *complete* program
that illustrates the problem you are having. People should be able
to run your program by copy/pasting the code from your article. (You
will find that doing this step very often reveals your problem
directly. Leading to an answer much more quickly and reliably than
posting to Usenet.)
Describe *precisely* the input to your program. Also provide example
input data for your program. If you need to show file input, use the
__DATA__ token (perldata.pod) to provide the file contents inside of
your Perl program.
Show the output (including the verbatim text of any messages) of
your program.
Describe how you want the output to be different from what you are
getting.
If you have no idea at all of how to code up your situation, be sure
to at least describe the 2 things that you *do* know: input and
desired output.
Do not provide too much information
Do not just post your entire program for debugging. Most especially
do not post someone *else's* entire program.
Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
clpmisc is a text only newsgroup. If you have images or binaries
that explain your question, put them in a publically accessible
place (like a Web server) and provide a pointer to that location. If
you include code, cut and paste it directly in the message body.
Don't attach anything to the message. Don't post vcards or HTML.
Many people (and even some Usenet servers) will automatically filter
out such messages. Many people will not be able to easily read your
post. Plain text is something everyone can read.
Social faux pas to avoid
The first two below are symptoms of lots of FAQ asking here in clpmisc.
It happens so often that folks will assume that it is happening yet
again. If you have looked but not found, or found but didn't understand
the docs, say so in your article.
Asking a Frequently Asked Question
It should be understood that you may have missed the applicable FAQ
when you checked, which is not a big deal. But if the Frequently
Asked Question is worded similar to your question, folks will assume
that you did not look at all. Don't become indignant at pointers to
the FAQ, particularly if it solves your problem.
Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
If folks think you have not even tried the obvious step of reading
the docs applicable to your problem, they are likely to become
annoyed.
If you are flamed for not checking when you *did* check, then just
shrug it off (and take the answer that you got).
Asking for emailed answers
Emailed answers benefit one person. Posted answers benefit the
entire community. If folks can take the time to answer your
question, then you can take the time to go get the answer in the
same place where you asked the question.
It is OK to ask for a *copy* of the answer to be emailed, but many
will ignore such requests anyway. If you munge your address, you
should never expect (or ask) to get email in response to a Usenet
post.
Ask the question here, get the answer here (maybe).
Beware of saying "doesn't work"
This is a "red flag" phrase. If you find yourself writing that,
pause and see if you can't describe what is not working without
saying "doesn't work". That is, describe how it is not what you
want.
Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
A "stealth Cc" is when you both email and post a reply without
indicating *in the body* that you are doing so.
Be extra cautious when you get upset
Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
This is recommended in all Usenet newsgroups. Here in clpmisc, most
flaming sub-threads are not about any feature of Perl at all! They
are most often for what was seen as a breach of netiquette. If you
have lurked for a bit, then you will know what is expected and won't
make such posts in the first place.
But if you get upset, wait a while before writing your followup. I
recommend waiting at least 30 minutes.
Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
After you have written your followup, wait *another* 30 minutes
before committing yourself by posting it. You cannot take it back
once it has been said.
AUTHOR
Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> and many others on the
comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.
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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 04:43:50 GMT
From: Charles DeRykus <ced@blv-sam-01.ca.boeing.com>
Subject: Re: Returning raw xml in SOAP::Lite
Message-Id: <J4wD50.BL2@news.boeing.com>
Mark wrote:
> Dear Perl folks,
>
> Using Perl 5.8.7 and SOAP::Lite 0.69, consider please this small example
> from perl.com:
>
> -----------------
> #!perl -w
>
> use SOAP::Transport::HTTP;
>
> SOAP::Transport::HTTP::CGI
> -> dispatch_to('Demo')
> -> handle;
>
> package Demo;
>
> sub hi {
> return "hello, world";
> }
>
> sub bye {
> return "goodbye, cruel world";
> }
> -----------------
>
> Now, I got SOAP service set up like that. But what I want, instead of,
> say, return ("goodbye, cruel world");, is to return a RAW xml stream,
> complete with xml envelope and all (the xml is generated in another
> place), and parse that straight back to the client.
>
> Now, I tried several things; like setting outputxml => 1. Or this:
>
> $xml = SOAP::Data->type('xml' => $raw);
> return ($xml);
>
> (and yes, $raw is defined within the "Demo" package). But the result is
> always the same: SOAP::Lite returns an empty SOAP envelope. For the life
> of me I just cannot get SOAP::Lite to just output my raw data to the
> client.
>
> I am kinda new to SOAP, and quite obviously missing something. If someone
> has any ideas, I'll be glad to hear them.
>
This can be done from the client, eg. :
my $soap = SOAP::Lite
->uri( 'Demo' )
->proxy( 'http://....server.cgi')
->outputxml( 1 );
print $soap->hi();
hth,
--
Charles DeRykus
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