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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 14 Aug 2006 Volume: 10 Number: 9601
Today's topics:
Clean string kjhjhjhjadsasda@urbanhabit.com
Re: Clean string <someone@example.com>
Re: creating a datastructure from lists <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Failure with perl2exe <lev.weissman@creo.com>
Re: is it possible to efficiently read a large file? <Mark.Seger@hp.com>
Re: is it possible to efficiently read a large file? <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Re: LWP seems to hang <mike.smith@amd.com>
Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED <john@castleamber.com>
Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED <john@castleamber.com>
Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED usenet@DavidFilmer.com
Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED <sherm@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
Re: LWP::UserAgent question <sherm@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
UK Recruitment for Junior Perl Developer <allan.wroe@mayfieldcurzon.com>
Re: UK Recruitment for Junior Perl Developer <sigzero@gmail.com>
Re: UK Recruitment for Junior Perl Developer <allan.wroe@mayfieldcurzon.com>
Re: Use of named groups in VC++ or C++ code <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: Use of named groups in VC++ or C++ code <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
Re: Use of named groups in VC++ or C++ code <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: Use of named groups in VC++ or C++ code <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 00:14:16 -0700
From: kjhjhjhjadsasda@urbanhabit.com
Subject: Clean string
Message-Id: <1155539656.258371.159850@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>
Hi
What would you suggest is the smoothest way of cleaning up a $string,
eg remove any characters that are not:
0-9 a-z : // /
This is to clean various strings from special characters, spaces etc to
make them clean as URLs.
Thanks!
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 07:20:56 GMT
From: "John W. Krahn" <someone@example.com>
Subject: Re: Clean string
Message-Id: <svVDg.7730$tP4.6236@clgrps12>
kjhjhjhjadsasda@urbanhabit.com wrote:
>
> What would you suggest is the smoothest way of cleaning up a $string,
> eg remove any characters that are not:
>
> 0-9 a-z : // /
>
> This is to clean various strings from special characters, spaces etc to
> make them clean as URLs.
$string =~ tr!0-9a-z:/!!cd;
John
--
use Perl;
program
fulfillment
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 10:49:53 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: creating a datastructure from lists
Message-Id: <r7e0e29audtami609jcf583ao3dg3rnk8f@4ax.com>
On 13 Aug 2006 16:23:19 -0700, "sal.x.lopez@gmail.com"
<sal.x.lopez@gmail.com> wrote:
>I need to convert the following lists:
>
>house,doors,knobs,style
>house,doors,knobs,color
>house,windows,length
>house,windows,width
>
>into a datastructure like this;
Funny: just been asked a few days ago. See
<news:1155102735.358626.78050@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>.
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 07:37:11 -0700
From: "MoshiachNow" <lev.weissman@creo.com>
Subject: Failure with perl2exe
Message-Id: <1155566231.706394.215560@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
HI,
Running perl2exe gives warniing.
An executable is created,however it closes immediately with some
warning that I'm not able to grasp ...too fast...
perl2exe nettestTk.pl
Perl2Exe V8.70 Copyright (c) 1997-2005 IndigoSTAR Software
Registered to Lev Weissman:levcreo:20060214
Converting 'nettestTk.pl' to nettestTk.exe
Warning: Can't locate Mac/InternetConfig.pm
at D:\Perl\lib\Net\Config.pm line 40
@INC = D:\Perl\lib, D:\Perl\site\lib,
tried installing Mac::InternetConfig.pm with CPAN and ppm,got errors:
cp Carbon.pm blib\lib\Mac/Carbon.pm
cp AppleEvents.pm ..\blib\lib\Mac\AppleEvents.pm
cp AppleEvents.pod ..\blib\lib\Mac\AppleEvents.pod
D:\Perl\bin\perl.exe ..\xsubpps/xsubpp-5.8.0 -noprototypes
-typemap D:\Perl\lib\Ex
tUtils\typemap AppleEvents.xs > AppleEvents.xsc &&
D:\Perl\bin\perl.exe -MExtUtils::Comma
nd -e mv AppleEvents.xsc AppleEvents.c
cl -c -nologo -Gf -W3 -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1 -DWIN32
-D_CONSOLE -DNO_STRICT -DHAV
E_DES_FCRYPT -DNO_HASH_SEED -DUSE_SITECUSTOMIZE -DPERL_IMPLICIT_CONTEXT
-DPERL_IMPLICIT_SY
S -DUSE_PERLIO -DPERL_MSVCRT_READFIX -MD -Zi -DNDEBUG -O1
-DVERSION=\"1.32\" -DXS_VERS
ION=\"1.32\" "-ID:\Perl\lib\CORE" AppleEvents.c
'cl' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.
NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe' : return code
'0x1'
Stop.
NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe' : return code
'0x2'
Stop.
nmake -- NOT OK
Running make test
Can't test without successful make
Running make install
make had returned bad status, install seems impossible
1.Any suggestion for a workaround?
2.How can I catch the messages produced by the perl2exe generated
executable ?
The screen just flashes and I can not manage to see any error before
it's gone...
Thanks
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Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:55:38 -0400
From: Mark Seger <Mark.Seger@hp.com>
To: "Peter J. Holzer" <hjp-usenet2@hjp.at>
Subject: Re: is it possible to efficiently read a large file?
Message-Id: <44DF9FDA.6030309@hp.com>
> So a difference between 6% and 25% CPU usage coupled with an increase in
> wall-clock time from 44 to 60 seconds on the same platform is IMHO very
> significant and shows that perl does something a lot less efficiently
> than Marks unnamed "benchmark tool".
I thought I named it in a previous email. It's Robin Miller's dt, which
he wrote when he was at DEC. Very popular/flexible. Do yourself a
favor and download a copy. You won't be sorry:
http://home.comcast.net/~SCSIguy/SCSI_FAQ/RMiller_Tools/dt.html
> First I'd look at the hardware: Is this an old or low-power cpu, which
> would explain the difference between my 0.2 seconds and Marks 16
> seconds?
>
> Next I'd check what the perl script is really doing. For me strace
> prints for Mark's script a steady stream of
>
> read(3, "\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 131072) = 131072
> read(3, "\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 131072) = 131072
>
> Finally, I'd look at the script. Mark didn't show how he opened the
> file. If he didn't open it in binary mode, an input layer may add a lot
> of overhead.
plain of open for input nothing fancy. If there IS something fancy I
can/should do via fcntl, etc. I'm all ears as I do believe the default
behavior is not going to do what I want.
> Now that I think of it, I'd reverse the order :-).
>
>
>>>I'm sure there is a lot of data movement between buffers and am
>>>wondering if there is some way to avoid this.
>
>
> Perl has almost certainly a lot more overhead than C. That's the price
> you pay for using a higher-level language. Usually, that overhead
> doesn't matter because your script spends most of its time elsewhere,
> though.
No argument on that one. However I have also found that perl can come
very close to C on some operations when there's not much between it and
system calls. For example, writing data perl has no problem getting the
same numbers as dt. I'm guessing in that case both need to move data
from user space to the buffer cache and there's no extra movement in
between. I've also found perl does a great job on socket I/O. But I
also agree, there are certainly many cases where you just can't beat raw
C power and the trick is to know when perl is sufficient and when it's
not. That's what I'm trying to figure out right now. 8-)
-mark
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:38:00 +0200
From: "Dr.Ruud" <rvtol+news@isolution.nl>
Subject: Re: is it possible to efficiently read a large file?
Message-Id: <ebq225.1j8.1@news.isolution.nl>
Mark Seger schreef:
> I've also found perl does a great job on socket
> I/O. But I also agree, there are certainly many cases where you just
> can't beat raw C power and the trick is to know when perl is
> sufficient and when it's not.
It is also feasible to mix Perl and C, see perlxstut and perlxs.
--
Affijn, Ruud
"Gewoon is een tijger."
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 07:28:18 -0700
From: "masmith27" <mike.smith@amd.com>
Subject: Re: LWP seems to hang
Message-Id: <1155565698.643810.108660@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
Hello again,
After looking at the problem some more I noticed it has nothing to do
with perl or lwp. The same error occurs if I try to use wget to fetch a
webpage. Also the script works fine if the pages are hosted in apache
but unfortunatly I can't use apache for reasons specific to the
project. I should have thought to test that earlier but I didn't think
of it. I have started a new topic in comp.os.linux.misc. Thanks for
the responses with this one though.
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 07:28:21 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED
Message-Id: <Xns981F1924AEB7Acastleamber@130.133.1.4>
"John W. Krahn" <someone@example.com> wrote:
> John Bokma wrote:
>> usenet.cop@3955291010.com wrote:
>>
>> Last warning: next time I report this annoying piece of garbage as
>> Usenet abuse. I am sure that running bots, especially the piece of
>> crap you are using, are a ToS violation of Giganews.
>>
>> You can't fix an issue by causing a bigger one.
>
> Tell that to Bush. ;-)
:-D
--
John Bokma Freelance software developer
&
Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 07:31:47 GMT
From: John Bokma <john@castleamber.com>
Subject: Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED
Message-Id: <Xns981F19B9C899castleamber@130.133.1.4>
usenet@DavidFilmer.com wrote:
> If you don't like seeing the messages, you may killfile the scanner
> (just as you may killfile the Faq-O-Matic bot or the Posting Guidelines
> bot). If you think I'm a jerk for doing this then you may killfile me
> as well. But, first, I hope you would at least give me a chance to
> understand and address any concerns you have.
Netiquette shouldn't be enforced by posting bots. Moreover, a bot with
such an impact (several messages a day I have seen so far) should probably
be voted for (or against).
And no, I am not going to add every bot to a kill file that some
programmer thinks is nifty to run on Usenet. As a programmer I appreciate
bots, but I appreciate the human touch more.
--
John Bokma Freelance software developer
&
Experienced Perl programmer: http://castleamber.com/
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 01:23:08 -0700
From: usenet@DavidFilmer.com
Subject: Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED
Message-Id: <1155543788.386957.24520@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>
John Bokma wrote:
> Netiquette shouldn't be enforced by posting bots.
Hmmm. Is that the essence of your objection?
I agree that it is very difficult in most instances and thus should not
even be attempted. Natural language is difficult to parse. I might
TRY to write a job-listing bot (and save Mr. Adler some trouble) but I
don't think it would be very effective, and I would never even try.
But, if someone could write an AI module that could reliably parse
natural language for meaning and intent, it would change everything.
Then, I COULD parse-and-flag job-posting messages (and I would). But I
can't do that (so I don't).
But it's easy to detect a multipost with a program (without AI). It is
fully possible to eliminate false positives. A few false-negatives may
slip through (where the OP tweaks the content) and that's to be
expected. The majority of multiposts CAN be identified (and, in fact, I
cannot recall a single multipost which was not a simple cut-and-paste -
I did go back and research the multiposts that I'vemanually flagged and
every single one of them would have been flagged by my bot).
> Moreover, a bot with such an impact (several messages a day I have seen
> so far) should probably be voted for (or against).
Where are you seeing such volume??? The scanner was deployed last
Thursday, and as of now (wee hours of Monday morning in my $TZ), I've
only observed two messages get flagged (and my tracking database agrees
with my observation). And the first message was an improperly flagged
crosspost because I had not un-commented a line during testing (grrr).
Had the bug been fixed initially, only one message so far would have
been flagged. That doesn't strike me as a high-impact process - one
message in 3.5 days.
But I am not opposed to the idea of a vote, as you suggest. I wish to
be a good usenet citizen in whatever group I participate in. That's
why I strive to adhere to the Posting Guidelines, and often recommend
that others do so as well. If the community at large doesn't like this
bot then I will certainly shut it down (without anyone needing to
resort to demands or threats). If folks think the bot is OK but the
message sucks, I can change it (and, note, I have removed most of the
"introductory text" but no message has yet been flagged under the new
parameters with the shorter reply-message). I'm a reasonable guy; I
can adapt to whatever the community consensus happens to be, and will
gladly do so.
--
David Filmer (http://DavidFilmer.com)
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 14:38:45 +0200
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED
Message-Id: <4kb95iFbbg7qU1@individual.net>
Tad McClellan wrote:
> usenet.cop@3955291010.com <usenet.cop@3955291010.com> wrote:
>># Q-Why am I doing this? A--For a better usenet.
>
> It isn't working.
How is it not working? We know that guidelines alone don't work...
> This "cure" is worse than the disease.
Are manual objections better? If so, in what way?
>># Some folks try to
>># discourage job postings; some discourage off-topic posts. I try #
>># to discourage multiposts
>
> No _you_ don't.
>
> Your _machine_ does.
>
> Not the same thing.
What significance would that have?
Personally I support David's initiative.
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:32:57 -0400
From: Sherm Pendley <sherm@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
Subject: Re: LWP::UserAgent question--MULTIPOSTED
Message-Id: <m2wt9be6au.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
usenet.cop@3955291010.com writes:
> **********************************************************************
> ********** PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS THREAD ***********
> **********************************************************************
Grow up. I intend to reply to each and every thread in which your little
whine-bot posts. Self-appointed "net nannies" are *far* more annoying than
any amount of cross- and or multi-posting.
sherm--
--
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Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:30:35 -0400
From: Sherm Pendley <sherm@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
Subject: Re: LWP::UserAgent question
Message-Id: <m21wrjfkz8.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
"a" <a@mail.com> writes:
> Hi
> I would like to use LWP::UserAgent to login the web site and process the web
> content. Then I should use $ua -> credentials($netloc, $realm, $uname,
> $pass)
> What is $netloc, $realm, $uname, and $pass?
> Can someone post an example to demonstrate?
Have a look at "perldoc lwpcook". There's an example of using this method in
there.
sherm--
--
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Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 07:15:35 -0700
From: "Allan" <allan.wroe@mayfieldcurzon.com>
Subject: UK Recruitment for Junior Perl Developer
Message-Id: <1155564935.805821.270220@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Ladies and Gents. I am a Recruitment Consultant currently engaged by a
client in North Yorkshire (Harrogate) to find 2 junior Perl Developers.
The role will suit a recent graduate with 1 years commercial experience
(either post grad or placement) who is looking for an entry level role.
Our client needs Perl, PHP, MySQL and Apache experience. This is a
permanent role with an expanding company where training and career
progression are assured.
If anybody is interested, please reply to this posting, e-mail me at
allan dot wroe at mayfieldcurzon dot com or check out the job posting
on
http://www.jobserve.com/WA88D227B9222C3DC.job
Happy hunting.
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 07:33:04 -0700
From: "Robert Hicks" <sigzero@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: UK Recruitment for Junior Perl Developer
Message-Id: <1155565984.921816.51740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Allan wrote:
> Ladies and Gents. I am a Recruitment Consultant currently engaged by a
> client in North Yorkshire (Harrogate) to find 2 junior Perl Developers.
>
>
> The role will suit a recent graduate with 1 years commercial experience
> (either post grad or placement) who is looking for an entry level role.
> Our client needs Perl, PHP, MySQL and Apache experience. This is a
> permanent role with an expanding company where training and career
> progression are assured.
>
> If anybody is interested, please reply to this posting, e-mail me at
> allan dot wroe at mayfieldcurzon dot com or check out the job posting
> on
>
> http://www.jobserve.com/WA88D227B9222C3DC.job
>
> Happy hunting.
Another place to post is: jobs.perl.org
Robert
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 07:52:02 -0700
From: "Allan" <allan.wroe@mayfieldcurzon.com>
Subject: Re: UK Recruitment for Junior Perl Developer
Message-Id: <1155567122.327722.139320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>
Robert Hicks wrote:
> Allan wrote:
> > Ladies and Gents. I am a Recruitment Consultant currently engaged by a
> > client in North Yorkshire (Harrogate) to find 2 junior Perl Developers.
> >
> >
> > The role will suit a recent graduate with 1 years commercial experience
> > (either post grad or placement) who is looking for an entry level role.
> > Our client needs Perl, PHP, MySQL and Apache experience. This is a
> > permanent role with an expanding company where training and career
> > progression are assured.
> >
> > If anybody is interested, please reply to this posting, e-mail me at
> > allan dot wroe at mayfieldcurzon dot com or check out the job posting
> > on
> >
> > http://www.jobserve.com/WA88D227B9222C3DC.job
> >
> > Happy hunting.
>
> Another place to post is: jobs.perl.org
>
> Robert
Appreciated. Thanks Robert.
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 10:58:01 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Use of named groups in VC++ or C++ code
Message-Id: <3le0e2psjhfur5s52pldnortol0g2bef80@4ax.com>
On 13 Aug 2006 22:48:52 -0700, shilpi.rustagi@beesys.com wrote:
>Can anyone plz tell me that hw shd i use named groups in a Regular
>Expression in C++ or VC++
I think u wld have mo' luck in a Regular Expression, C++ or VC++ ng.
This is abt Perl.
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:43:05 +0200
From: Josef Moellers <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
Subject: Re: Use of named groups in VC++ or C++ code
Message-Id: <ebpgo6$so$3@nntp.fujitsu-siemens.com>
Michele Dondi wrote:
> On 13 Aug 2006 22:48:52 -0700, shilpi.rustagi@beesys.com wrote:
>=20
>=20
>>Can anyone plz tell me that hw shd i use named groups in a Regular
>>Expression in C++ or VC++
>=20
>=20
> I think u wld have mo' luck in a Regular Expression, C++ or VC++ ng.
> This is abt Perl.
>=20
>=20
> Michele
Mch t mny vwlz!
SCNR (lk m, n vwlz!)
Jsf ;-)
--=20
Josef M=F6llers (Pinguinpfleger bei FSC)
If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize
-- T. Pratchett
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:53:25 GMT
From: "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Use of named groups in VC++ or C++ code
Message-Id: <9n_Dg.7368$Z1.3817@trnddc03>
Michele Dondi wrote:
> On 13 Aug 2006 22:48:52 -0700, shilpi.rustagi@beesys.com wrote:
>
>> Can anyone plz tell me that hw shd i use named groups in a Regular
>> Expression in C++ or VC++
>
> I think u wld have mo' luck in a Regular Expression, C++ or VC++ ng.
> This is abt Perl.
Which encoding is that? ROT13 doesn't work.
jue
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Date: 14 Aug 2006 17:01:49 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: Use of named groups in VC++ or C++ code
Message-Id: <t041e2l07oco870alpan1segib4je86cbl@4ax.com>
On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 12:53:25 GMT, "Jürgen Exner"
<jurgenex@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Can anyone plz tell me that hw shd i use named groups in a Regular
>>> Expression in C++ or VC++
>>
>> I think u wld have mo' luck in a Regular Expression, C++ or VC++ ng.
>> This is abt Perl.
>
>Which encoding is that? ROT13 doesn't work.
Dude talk? 4 ur pleasure...
;-)
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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