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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 7 Feb 2006 Volume: 10 Number: 8931
Today's topics:
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <rm@biteme.org>
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <r34m@b4i5te5me.org>
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <rm@biteme.org>
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <rm@biteme.org>
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <rm@biteme.org>
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <rm@biteme.org>
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan>
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan>
Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite <tyketto@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
perl cgi script buffering? <golfnow@pacbell.net>
Re: perl cgi script buffering? <jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:24:10 GMT
From: Realto Margarino <rm@biteme.org>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <Kl7Gf.16141$1e5.400661@news20.bellglobal.com>
In alt.os.linux.slackware HJohnson <humjohn@aerosurf.net> wrote:
> R3e4al5to 23ar3ga4rino wrote:
> > This is about the hypocrite known as Keith Keller. A number of
> > people have complained about a rash of people including PGP
> > headers in the bodies of their posts.
> The only one that seems annoyed, is you. Live with it!
Nonsense. I am certainly the most vociferous in opposition.
Others, such as yourself, are cowered.
> > It's like a little club. It annoys the hell out of people, but
> > they won't stop iti and they won't bury the stuff in their
> > headers. Here is what the hypocrite Keller posted in
> > alt.os.linux.slackware:
> >
> > Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> trolled:
> >
> >> The PGP signature of the body (actually, body + some headers) can
> >> be put into the headers (that's what I do), but as I've said many
> >> times in this very newsgroup, it's not worth the effort. Most
> >> popular nntp clients also support hiding PGP information that's
> >
> > - - - - - < snip > - - - -
Why the snip?
cordially, as always,
rm
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:30:55 GMT
From: e3a4l5to a2r3g4a5r5ino <r34m@b4i5te5me.org>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <3s7Gf.16144$1e5.401429@news20.bellglobal.com>
In alt.os.linux.slackware A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
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Instead of calling me names, why don't you just tell us why you
won't put your pgp into your headers?
Or do you find name-calling more helpful?
cordially, as always,
rm
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:48:24 GMT
From: Realto Margarino <rm@biteme.org>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <sI7Gf.16161$1e5.402432@news20.bellglobal.com>
Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> trolled:
> On 2006-02-07, A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Niki is right. Really bad to feed a troll.
> It is a lot worse to feed a troll in two different newsgroups. If
> you must feed Roger, please check the Newsgroups: line!
> comp.lang.perl.misc shouldn't have to endure the crap aols has had
> to deal with. (I was wondering why clpmisc regulars were posting
> here!)
Why shouldn't they know that you are a hypocrit? They have good
reason not to include PGP in their messages, and you pretend to
agree with them, while also pretending to agree with the crowd in
a.o.l.s. And you don't want the perl people to know that you are a
two faced little phoney.
You take out your PGP to kiss the perlies asses. But you champion
the inclusion of PGP in the slackware group to kiss their asses.
And then you call me a "troll" as if that somehow deals with the
issue. But this is old stuff. Anyone that disagrees with a vocal
minority in this group is called a "troll."
You're pathetic. If you think it is a good idea to include PGP then
admit it and include it. If you don't think it is a good idea, then
don't include it, and admit that.
cordially, as always,
rm
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:51:41 GMT
From: Realto Margarino <rm@biteme.org>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <xL7Gf.16186$1e5.402729@news20.bellglobal.com>
Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> trolled:
> On 2006-02-07, A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Niki is right. Really bad to feed a troll.
> It is a lot worse to feed a troll in two different newsgroups. If you
> must feed Roger, please check the Newsgroups: line! comp.lang.perl.misc
> shouldn't have to endure the crap aols has had to deal with. (I was
> wondering why clpmisc regulars were posting here!)
The hypocrite is scared that the comp.lang.perl.misc people will see
what a phoney, two-faced, little weasel this Keller fellow really
is. His "opinion" is purely shaped by the opinion of who he
believes to be "in charge."
cordially, as always,
rm
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:52:05 GMT
From: Realto Margarino <rm@biteme.org>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <VL7Gf.16190$1e5.402728@news20.bellglobal.com>
[ This is a repost of the following article: ]
[ From: Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> ]
[ Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite ]
[ Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware ]
[ Message-ID: <pc8nb3x1hm.ln2@goaway.wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> ]
On 2006-02-07, A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> Niki is right. Really bad to feed a troll.
It is a lot worse to feed a troll in two different newsgroups. If you
must feed Roger, please check the Newsgroups: line! comp.lang.perl.misc
shouldn't have to endure the crap aols has had to deal with. (I was
wondering why clpmisc regulars were posting here!)
--keith
--
kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
(try just my userid to email me)
AOLSFAQ=http://wombat.san-francisco.ca.us/cgi-bin/fom
see X- headers for PGP signature information
--
How come so many stat fans, and pseudo stat fans, are Jewish?
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 21:02:27 GMT
From: Realto Margarino <rm@biteme.org>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <DV7Gf.16269$1e5.403637@news20.bellglobal.com>
[ This is a repost of the following article: ]
[ From: Realto Margarino <rm@biteme.org> ]
[ Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite ]
[ Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.lang.perl.misc ]
[ Message-ID: <sI7Gf.16161$1e5.402432@news20.bellglobal.com> ]
Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> trolled:
> On 2006-02-07, A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > Niki is right. Really bad to feed a troll.
> It is a lot worse to feed a troll in two different newsgroups. If
> you must feed Roger, please check the Newsgroups: line!
> comp.lang.perl.misc shouldn't have to endure the crap aols has had
> to deal with. (I was wondering why clpmisc regulars were posting
> here!)
Why shouldn't they know that you are a hypocrit? They have good
reason not to include PGP in their messages, and you pretend to
agree with them, while also pretending to agree with the crowd in
a.o.l.s. And you don't want the perl people to know that you are a
two faced little phoney.
You take out your PGP to kiss the perlies asses. But you champion
the inclusion of PGP in the slackware group to kiss their asses.
And then you call me a "troll" as if that somehow deals with the
issue. But this is old stuff. Anyone that disagrees with a vocal
minority in this group is called a "troll."
You're pathetic. If you think it is a good idea to include PGP then
admit it and include it. If you don't think it is a good idea, then
don't include it, and admit that.
cordially, as always,
rm
--
How come so many stat fans, and pseudo stat fans, are Jewish?
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:29:01 -0600
From: Dan C <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <pan.2006.02.07.22.29.01.155710@invalid.lan>
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:24:10 +0000, Realto Margarino wrote:
>> The only one that seems annoyed, is you. Live with it!
> Nonsense. I am certainly the most vociferous in opposition.
> Others, such as yourself, are cowered.
Wrong. You're the only one complaining. Can you provide a name or
message ID of someone else whining about it?
Didn't think so. Go to your room, Wanda.
--
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:31:33 -0600
From: Dan C <youmustbejoking@invalid.lan>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <pan.2006.02.07.22.31.33.68819@invalid.lan>
On Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:51:41 +0000, Realto Margarino wrote:
> is. His "opinion" is purely shaped by the opinion of who he
> believes to be "in charge."
Which is why *your* opinion is completely ignored. You don't count for
shit. You're a nobody, and a buffoon.
When we want some shit from you, we'll give your head a squeeze.
--
If you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
Linux Registered User #327951
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 22:32:42 GMT
From: A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@sbcglobal.net.invalid>
Subject: Re: Keith Keller: Hypocrite
Message-Id: <ee9Gf.10059$2O6.2483@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>
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In alt.os.linux.slackware e3a4l5to a2r3g4a5r5ino <r34m@b4i5te5me.org> wrote:
> In alt.os.linux.slackware A Guy Called Tyketto <tyketto@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
>
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> Instead of calling me names, why don't you just tell us why you
> won't put your pgp into your headers?
Simple. I don't want, nor need to. Either way, you're not going
to stop me from doing what I want. PGP goes around the body of the
message, as it's a digital signature. Don't like it, read the RFC,
scream, cry, throw your temper tantrum, throw your bowl of Corn Flakes
on the floor, and stand in the corner like the bad little boy you are.
> Or do you find name-calling more helpful?
I find it funny. I find you funny. Actually, I find you a
troll.
BL.
- --
Brad Littlejohn | Email: tyketto@sbcglobal.net
Unix Systems Administrator, | tyketto@ozemail.com.au
Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! :) | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto
PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:53:50 GMT
From: "Jim Isaacson" <golfnow@pacbell.net>
Subject: perl cgi script buffering?
Message-Id: <yN7Gf.52680$PL5.31774@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>
Hi
I have a html doc that calls a perl cgi script to list or write a scsi tape.
If I submit from the html document on the local machine it displays the html
in the cgi script and then reads the tape. If I go to any other machine and
submit from the html doc it waits until it gets enough data and then
displays the html and tape listing ino. It's like its buffering data when
not run from the web server? It's driving me crazy and users think the link
is broken as it stays on the html page for so long. I've tried using $| = 1
and autoflush, it works fine on the local server, just not remotely from any
other machines browser.
Any help is appreciated, here it the cgi script and it runs on an Apache
2.0.55 server on Redhat linux.
Thanks
Jim
#!/usr/bin/perl
use FileHandle;
require "cgi-lib.pl";
&ReadParse(*in);
STDOUT->autoflush(1);
$file = $in{'file'};
$failed = 0;
$LOG = "/usr/local/apache2/htdocs/logs/tapelog.log";
print &PrintHeader;
print <<EOF;
<H1><CENTER>Writing file Tape</CENTER></H1>
EOF
print "<HTML><BODY>";
print "<h2>";
print "Writing $file tape now...Please Wait for Tape Complete Message<br>";
print "This can take up to 40 minutes...<br><br>";
print "</h2>";
print "<h3>";
print "<PRE>";
if(open(PIPE, "/usr/local/bin/rtape -t /dev/st0 $file 2>/tmp/tapewrite |"))
{
while(<PIPE>) {
print "$_";
}
}
if(-s "/tmp/tapewrite") {
$failed = 1;
$status = "Failed";
unlink("/tmp/tapewrite");
}
else {
$status = "Successful";
}
$date = `date '+%m/%d/%y %H:%M:%S'`;
chomp($date);
open(LOG, ">>$LOG") || die "Unable to open $LOG file\n";
print LOG "$date|$file|$status\n";
close(LOG);
print "</h3>";
print "<br>";
print "<br>";
print "<h2>";
if($failed) {
print "Write of $file tape Failed<br><br>";
}
else {
print "Write of $file tape complete<br><br>";
}
print "<A HREF=\"/index.html\">Return to Main Tape Page </A>";
print "</h2>";
print "</html></body>";
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Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 13:29:32 -0800
From: Jim Gibson <jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: perl cgi script buffering?
Message-Id: <070220061329324796%jgibson@mail.arc.nasa.gov>
In article <yN7Gf.52680$PL5.31774@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, Jim
Isaacson <golfnow@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a html doc that calls a perl cgi script to list or write a scsi tape.
> If I submit from the html document on the local machine it displays the html
> in the cgi script and then reads the tape. If I go to any other machine and
> submit from the html doc it waits until it gets enough data and then
> displays the html and tape listing ino. It's like its buffering data when
> not run from the web server? It's driving me crazy and users think the link
> is broken as it stays on the html page for so long. I've tried using $| = 1
> and autoflush, it works fine on the local server, just not remotely from any
> other machines browser.
The way in which an HTML page is displayed is under the control of the
server and your browser, not the CGI program that generates the page.
There is little your CGI program can do to influence when the page is
displayed.
See, for example, the article "Watching long processes through CGI",
Randal Schwartz, Linux Magazine, Aug 2002:
<http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/LinuxMag/col39.html>
>
> Any help is appreciated, here it the cgi script and it runs on an Apache
> 2.0.55 server on Redhat linux.
Your program looks like it was written 10 years ago. You should
consider re-writing it using more modern Perl programming techniques.
For example, the CGI.pm module has replaced the cgi-lib.pl library, and
it offers easier-to-use, more flexible and secure features. Adding 'use
strict' and 'use warnings' to your script will help catch programming
errors. Perl now has lexical variables, and you don't have to call
subroutines with & in front of the subroutine name. Perl has "here"
documents for generating a lot of output. (and there's more).
Good luck.
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