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Today's topics:
Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs wit <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs wit (Mark Jason Dominus)
Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs wit <caseyhHAMMER_TIME@istar.ca>
Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs wit <sherm@dot-app.org>
Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs wit (Mark Jason Dominus)
Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs wit <kevin@vaildc.net>
Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs wit <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Emacs modules for Perl programming (Jari Aalto+mail.perl)
Lightning talks at OSCON 2005 (Mark Jason Dominus)
Re: Net::FTP problem (lain)
Re: Net::FTP problem (lain)
Re: Problems understanding and implementing process man <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au>
Re: Problems understanding and implementing process man <kevin@vaildc.net>
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Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 17:14:32 -0500
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs
Message-Id: <slrndd0j28.ruo.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote:
> As such, Sherm is right on. This is spam.
>
> The OP's ISP will be hearing from me when I get a chance.
A bit of Googling seems to show that this is just one of many
such "helpful" posts by this OP...
Message-ID: <rgscr05a1j0uck8vb4br19ap6ifu3a5oq1@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <lqigo0p5ocqacobbnr19dae04rhsed94j1@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <sv6rt0pv4kv4ah3qp42erg1b2nolm40f6h@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <es4j60dajphe0baqh3a19b9unliqdaro00@4ax.com>
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:10:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: mjd@plover.com (Mark Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs
Message-Id: <daplge$d0i$1@plover.com>
References: <q810d1p5ve0asunoi64muueb3bddbbtg86@4ax.com> <m2k6jzizmb.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
Distribution: world
Organization: Plover Systems Co.
In article <m2k6jzizmb.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>,
Sherm Pendley <sherm@dot-app.org> wrote:
>Casey Hawthorne <caseyhHAMMER_TIME@istar.ca> writes:
>
>> You may be interested in the following book:
>>
>> Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs (Paperback)
>
>Spam makes Baby Santa Claus cry.
>
>*plonk*
I'm the author of the book. I just want to say that I have never
heard of Sherm Pendley, and I had nothing to do with his announcment.
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:13:13 GMT
From: Casey Hawthorne <caseyhHAMMER_TIME@istar.ca>
Subject: Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs
Message-Id: <stp0d15j5517p5fopvkp75an19iq2mv29o@4ax.com>
Sorry about that!
I didn't realize there was an Amazon account ID in the URL!
Or that it would soon be free on the web!
--
Regards,
Casey
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Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:25:14 -0400
From: Sherm Pendley <sherm@dot-app.org>
Subject: Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs
Message-Id: <m2y88fmrrp.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
mjd@plover.com (Mark Jason Dominus) writes:
> Sherm Pendley <sherm@dot-app.org> wrote:
>>Casey Hawthorne <caseyhHAMMER_TIME@istar.ca> writes:
>>
>>> You may be interested in the following book:
>>>
>>> Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs (Paperback)
>>
>>Spam makes Baby Santa Claus cry.
>>
>>*plonk*
>
> I'm the author of the book. I just want to say that I have never
> heard of Sherm Pendley, and I had nothing to do with his announcment.
Um... what announcement? I plonked a spammer...
sherm--
--
Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:35:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: mjd@plover.com (Mark Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs
Message-Id: <dapqfk$hn8$1@plover.com>
In article <m2y88fmrrp.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>,
Sherm Pendley <sherm@dot-app.org> wrote:
>mjd@plover.com (Mark Jason Dominus) writes:
>> I'm the author of the book. I just want to say that I have never
>> heard of Sherm Pendley, and I had nothing to do with his announcment.
>
>Um... what announcement? I plonked a spammer...
The announcement you were plonking. I got the names mixed up; sorry.
I wanted to make clear that neither I nor my publisher were
responsible for posting spam on this newsgroup.
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 00:38:55 GMT
From: Kevin Michael Vail <kevin@vaildc.net>
Subject: Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs
Message-Id: <kevin-0FD508.20385609072005@news.verizon.net>
In article <daplge$d0i$1@plover.com>,
mjd@plover.com (Mark Jason Dominus) wrote:
> References: <q810d1p5ve0asunoi64muueb3bddbbtg86@4ax.com>
> <m2k6jzizmb.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>
> Distribution: world
> Organization: Plover Systems Co.
>
>
> In article <m2k6jzizmb.fsf@Sherm-Pendleys-Computer.local>,
> Sherm Pendley <sherm@dot-app.org> wrote:
> >Casey Hawthorne <caseyhHAMMER_TIME@istar.ca> writes:
> >
> >> You may be interested in the following book:
> >>
> >> Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs (Paperback)
> >
> >Spam makes Baby Santa Claus cry.
> >
> >*plonk*
>
> I'm the author of the book. I just want to say that I have never
> heard of Sherm Pendley, and I had nothing to do with his announcment.
Which is good, because Sherm didn't make one. We're all pretty sure you
had nothing to do with Casey's announcement either, though.
--
Bright eyes/burning like fire, | Kevin Michael Vail
Bright eyes/how can you close and fail? | kevin@vaildc.net
How can the light that shone so brightly | . . . . . . . . . .
Suddenly shine so pale?/Bright eyes | . . . . . . . . .
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 02:35:55 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Book: Higher-Order Perl: Transforming Programs with Programs
Message-Id: <Xns968EE5E328BE2asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1>
Casey Hawthorne <caseyhHAMMER_TIME@istar.ca> wrote in
news:stp0d15j5517p5fopvkp75an19iq2mv29o@4ax.com:
> Sorry about that!
>
> I didn't realize there was an Amazon account ID in the URL!
>
> Or that it would soon be free on the web!
Given the other examples Tad has found, I doubt anyone is willing to
believe you. I am hoping your ISP takes this seriously as well.
> --
> Regards,
> Casey
Incidentally, your signature delimiter is incorrect: It should be two
dashes followed by a space followed by a newline.
Oh, before I forget again, *PLONK*.
Sinan
--
A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
(reverse each component and remove .invalid for email address)
comp.lang.perl.misc guidelines on the WWW:
http://mail.augustmail.com/~tadmc/clpmisc/clpmisc_guidelines.html
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Date: 10 Jul 2005 04:24:05 GMT
From: <jari.aalto <AT> poboxes.com> (Jari Aalto+mail.perl)
Subject: Emacs modules for Perl programming
Message-Id: <perl-faq/emacs-lisp-modules_1120969421@rtfm.mit.edu>
Archive-name: perl-faq/emacs-lisp-modules
Posting-Frequency: 2 times a month
URL: http://tiny-tools.sourceforge.net/
Maintainer: Jari Aalto A T poboxes com
Announcement: "What Emacs lisp modules can help with programming Perl"
Preface
Emacs is your friend if you have to do anything comcerning software
development: It offers plug-in modules, written in Emacs lisp
(elisp) language, that makes all your programmings wishes come
true. Please introduce yourself to Emacs and your programming era
will get a new light.
Where to find Emacs/XEmacs
o Unix:
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html
http://www.xemacs.org/
o Unix Windows port (for Unix die-hards):
install http://www.cygwin.com/ which includes native Emacs 21.x.
and XEmacs port
o Pure Native Windows port
http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/ntemacs.html
ftp://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/windows/setup.exe
o More Emacs resources at
http://tiny-tools.sourceforge.net/ => Emacs resource page
Emacs Perl Modules
Cperl -- Perl programming mode
http://www.cpan.org/modules/by-authors/id/ILYAZ/cperl-mode/
http://math.berkeley.edu/~ilya/software/emacs/
by Ilya Zakharevich
CPerl is major mode for editing perl files. Forget the default
`perl-mode' that comes with Emacs, this is much better. Comes
standard in newest Emacs.
TinyPerl -- Perl related utilities
http://tiny-tools.sourceforge.net/
If you ever wonder how to deal with Perl POD pages or how to find
documentation from all perl manpages, this package is for you.
Couple of keystrokes and all the documentaion is in your hands.
o Instant function help: See documentation of `shift', `pop'...
o Show Perl manual pages in *pod* buffer
o Grep through all Perl manpages (.pod)
o Follow POD references e.g. [perlre] to next pod with RETURN
o Coloured pod pages with `font-lock'
o Separate `tiperl-pod-view-mode' for jumping topics and pages
forward and backward in *pod* buffer.
o Update `$VERSION' variable with YYYY.MMDD on save.
o Load source code into Emacs, like Devel::DProf.pm
o Prepare script (version numbering) and Upload it to PAUSE
o Generate autoload STUBS (Devel::SelfStubber) for you
Perl Module (.pm)
TinyIgrep -- Perl Code browsing and easy grepping
[TinyIgrep is included in Tiny Tools Kit]
To grep from all installed Perl modules, define database to
TinyIgrep. There is example file emacs-rc-tinyigrep.el that shows
how to set up dattabases for Perl5, Perl4 whatever you have
installed
TinyIgrep calls Igrep.el to to do the search, You can adjust
recursive grep options, set search case sensitivity, add user grep
options etc.
You can find latest `igrep.el' module at
<http://groups.google.com/groups?group=gnu.emacs.sources> The
maintainer is Jefin Rodgers <kevinr <AT> ihs.com>.
TinyCompile -- To Browse grep results in Emacs *compile* buffer
TinyCompile is a minor mode for *compile* buffer from where
you can collapse unwanted lines or shorten file URLs:
/asd/asd/asd/asd/ads/as/da/sd/as/as/asd/file1:NNN: MATCHED TEXT
/asd/asd/asd/asd/ads/as/da/sd/as/as/asd/file2:NNN: MATCHED TEXT
-->
cd /asd/asd/asd/asd/ads/as/da/sd/as/as/asd/
file1:NNN: MATCHED TEXT
file1:NNN: MATCHED TEXT
End
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Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 23:11:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: mjd@plover.com (Mark Jason Dominus)
Subject: Lightning talks at OSCON 2005
Message-Id: <daplj4$d1n$1@plover.com>
Lightning Talks at the 2005 O'Reilly Open Source Convention
Lightning talks are brief (5-minute) talks that focus on a single
example, idea, project, or technique. Lightning talks do not attempt
to cover all aspects of their subject matter, but rather to present
one facet of the idea clearly and succinctly.
To submit a proposal for a lightning talk, please send your proposed
title and an abstract of up to four sentences to
osc-lt-2005-submit-perl@plover.com
For more complete information, visit:
http://perl.plover.com/lt/osc2005/
Thanks.
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Date: 9 Jul 2005 22:10:24 -0700
From: volantecho@gmail.com (lain)
Subject: Re: Net::FTP problem
Message-Id: <d5329f0a.0507092110.7cfdc031@posting.google.com>
Richard Gration <richard@zync.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pan.2005.07.08.11.33.10.180172@zync.co.uk>...
> On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 00:31:30 -0700, lain wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have big trouble on Net::FTP, could you please give me some idea??
> >
> > My ftp server is on Win2K Prof, IIS.
> >
> > First, I tried ftp on my linux server , it works fine.
> >
> > Then I created a cgi script, run the script manually on linux server,
> > to get the file from that Win2K and put on my linux server, it works
> > fine too.
> >
> > However, while i was on my php web system, submit the php POST to the
> > cgi-script, it show me the internal error.
> > I go to error log, it shows me the error:
> > cant open the file, permission denied.
>
> I'm not sure I followed your explanation properly, but I figure that you
> are trying to pull a file from a Win2K FTP server to a Linux box by
> submitting to a cgi script (which uses NET::FTP to get the file) on the
> Linux box from a web-browser? If so, then you need to understand that cgi
> scripts run as a specific user, usually apache or httpd and that 99 times
> out of a 100 this user doesn't have write permission to the file's
> destination, as per the error message you are seeing. You must fix this by
> either 1) having the script write the file somewhere it already has
> permission or 2) change the permissions where it is trying to write so
> that it can.
>
> HTH
> Rich
Hi Rich,
Could you please explain in detail??
See, I've chmod 777 to the cgi script. Would that still not enough??
I've considered maybe it cant write anything on cgi-bin directory, coz
from the Net::FTP module, I've learnt that the retrieved file would
'temporary' located at the current working directory.
But While i run the script manually it works, never show the error
message and i can put the file to another directory after.
Or while i GET the file i should force it to store on another
directory??
I'd done like this:
$ftp->GET("the file i want to retrieve", "the location i want to put
temporary of the file");
ie : $ftp->GET("image.jpg", "http://231.12.255.1/folder/image.jpg");
But it showed me the error : couldnt find the file.
Hear from you Rich!!
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Date: 9 Jul 2005 22:12:17 -0700
From: volantecho@gmail.com (lain)
Subject: Re: Net::FTP problem
Message-Id: <d5329f0a.0507092112.2ef31899@posting.google.com>
John Mason Jr <notvalid@cox.net.invalid> wrote in message news:<11cun4a2g9kqn7f@news.supernews.com>...
> lain wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have big trouble on Net::FTP, could you please give me some idea??
> >
> > My ftp server is on Win2K Prof, IIS.
> >
> > First, I tried ftp on my linux server , it works fine.
> >
> > Then I created a cgi script, run the script manually on linux server,
> > to get the file from that Win2K and put on my linux server, it works
> > fine too.
> >
> > However, while i was on my php web system, submit the php POST to the
> > cgi-script, it show me the internal error.
> > I go to error log, it shows me the error:
> > cant open the file, permission denied.
> >
> > I really do not know what's wrong, is it my ftp problem? coding
> > problem or network prob??
> >
> > 1. i have set the full permission on ftp folder in win2k.
> > 2. chmod 777 on my cgi-script
> > 3. the ftp folder located in C://inetpub/ftproot/test (created as
> > virtual directory)
> >
> > any suggestions, comments, helps are all welcomed.
> > I'm going to try an alternative to do the task.
> >
> > Thanks a lot!!
>
>
> Make sure your directory listing style is Unix not MS-DOS on the IIS FTP
> server
>
>
> John
Hi John,
That's correct, the directory listing was MS-DOS on my FTP server.
Then I changed to Unix, but it doesnt work...still the same error
message : permission denied T_T
Do you have ny other idea??
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 04:35:14 GMT
From: James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Re: Problems understanding and implementing process management
Message-Id: <6A1Ae.20399$eM6.1012@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
>
> Then, it is not clear at first sight, what is causing these problems.
> Then, after some time, I realized the long, vanity comments. At that
> point, I had no more motivation to try anything.
>
> I am glad Ala was able to help you (and I learned something from his
> post). But the next time, I won't even see your post.
>
> Sinan
>
??? You're *killfiling me* because I had a comment line that exceeded 80
lines ??? For the record, my perl executable didn't puke on this. In
fact, it didn't even raise a warning. I guess ActiveState''s perl is at
least smart enough to know that a comment should be treated as such.
Thanks for not helping,
James
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 06:40:05 GMT
From: Kevin Michael Vail <kevin@vaildc.net>
Subject: Re: Problems understanding and implementing process management
Message-Id: <kevin-9D6670.02400410072005@news.verizon.net>
In article <6A1Ae.20399$eM6.1012@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
James Calivar <amheiserbush@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > Then, it is not clear at first sight, what is causing these problems.
> > Then, after some time, I realized the long, vanity comments. At that
> > point, I had no more motivation to try anything.
> >
> > I am glad Ala was able to help you (and I learned something from his
> > post). But the next time, I won't even see your post.
> >
> > Sinan
> >
>
> ??? You're *killfiling me* because I had a comment line that exceeded 80
> lines ??? For the record, my perl executable didn't puke on this. In
> fact, it didn't even raise a warning. I guess ActiveState''s perl is at
> least smart enough to know that a comment should be treated as such.
The problem wasn't the length of the lines in the file at your end. The
problem was that when posted to Usenet (or, actually, when read on
Usenet), extra newlines got inserted after 80 characters. When copying
and pasting the text to try to compile the code, this caused things that
were comments in the original not to be comments in the cut'n'pasted
version. My guess is that Sinan decided it wasn't worth the trouble to
put the code back the way it was, at least that would be my thought.
> Thanks for not helping,
There are so many posts in this newsgroup each day that only the people
who don't make helping take extra effort actually get helped. As soon
as the potential helpee sees something like this, the reaction is
"Next!" This is explained in more detail in the posting guidelines that
appear here frequently, which you should probably (re)read.
--
Kevin Michael Vail | a billion stars go spinning through the night,
kevin@vaildc.net | blazing high above your head.
. . . . . . . . . | But _in_ you is the presence that
. . . . . . . . | will be, when all the stars are dead.
. . . . . . . . . | (Rainer Maria Rilke)
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