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Today's topics:
Re: MAIL recommendation <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: MAIL recommendation <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Re: MAIL recommendation <noreply@gunnar.cc>
MAP question <Noname@hot.com>
Re: MAP question <mritty@gmail.com>
Re: MAP question <do-not-use@invalid.net>
Re: MAP question <Noname@hot.com>
Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file. <matternc@comcast.net>
Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file. <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file. <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file. <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file. <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: open-perl-ide qustion <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: Reducing amount of repetative code <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: regex trick needed <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Thanks you, it works <torfinnk@hotmail.com>
Re: Thanks you, it works <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:34:12 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: MAIL recommendation
Message-Id: <a97vn0lm75l0gmg9qv94rs2imidarce2uo@4ax.com>
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:11:41 -0400, "daniel kaplan"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>to me, community is newsgroups, open discussion, free thoughts floating back
>and forth, helping any type of newbie no matter how simple his/her question
>was, yet sniffing out the actual homework people.
Well, you see, you trace yourself a limit to the alleged freedom of
speech/tought circulation you're IMHO *rethorically* advocating. I may
provocatorily ask you: why not to accept and answer in detail actual
homework questions too?
If there is a vast collective perception that the kind of questions
you're asking, the way you're asking them, and your attitude in
general is counterproductive to the *real* circulation of *actual*
information, free thought et alia in the ng, and *there* *is* (for you
*must* have noticed that several people, and not only one or two, are
complaining about them), whereas other posters (either newbies or
regulars) are being treated quite differently, then this IMHO should
ring a bell to you...
But appearently this is just MHO...
>but in spouting FAQ, FAQ, FAQ...i'm sorry guys/gals, and i sincerely don't
>mean this with the venom a few of you have thrown at me, this is more like
>goose-stepping to me. you know there are a few people here who have
>answered my questions and moved on. i asked "what do you like for
>this...." and they answered....
There's a particular you're overstepping. Some contributors to this ng
are more autoritative than others. I could name a few, but I won't, as
you probably wouldn't mind anyway.
I guess that you're so convinced about the daniel-kaplan-centric idea
of what a good answer *must* be that your measure must be very
different. You should take my word for this, but I'm sure you won't,
that if an actual answer deserved to be given to you it most probably
would have been given. If "read the faq" or something similar is the
answer you got, then chances are high that this is the answer your
question deserved. This has been my own personal experience for what
it may count to you...
Please notice those autoritative posters are such out of *facts* as
estimated by their knowledgeability, *not* by means of any kind of
imposition from an authority.
If you had lurked or been a regular here for some time you would have
realized quite soon which are the persons whose opinion you should tak
into account as valuable. But then please note that I don't mean to be
irrespectful to those who answered your questions "the way you liked".
Of course a priori nothing prevents their answers to be just as good
as an answer can be.
>sorry for it sounding like lecturing, but it really seems like "free
>thought" discussion is second priority here....
I wouldn't say so, but possibly in terms of that insisting
daniel-kaplan-centrinc POV: if you dare to insinue the seed of doubt
into your world of certainties, I encourage you to give a peek into
threads like:
(*) "Which is the best book for learning OO perl?"
Here the kind of questin is similar to the one you're saying you're
asking, i.e. about personal opinions/experience. It doesn't seem to me
that anyone has been bashed in that thread. Let alone the OP... and
note that it *is* in the faq ('perldoc -q books').
(*) "Change default @INC without recompiling?"
(*) "Inter Program Communication ..."
(*) "Parsing SGML with Perl"
(*) "list vs scalar context for localtime?"
(*) "foreach vs. for"
(*) "Regular expressions to find the presence of special characters"
(*) "Fast random string generation"
(*) "What's the seed?"
etc. etc. ad libitum...
>i'll leave you with this...someone pointed out to me the "lurking before you
>post" guideline. never heard of it, but after this experience, you bet i'll
>never forget it. may i suggest you do the same, see what some of the other
>programming groups do? you'll find stupid "dooooh" posts from EVERYONE.
Appearently they must have much more free time. Or they like to have a
high noise/signal ration. Or they do not mind lowering the quality of
the topics being discussed.
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:34:14 +0200
From: Michele Dondi <bik.mido@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: MAIL recommendation
Message-Id: <8javn05kadj90tbnhhh9cthsuggip56n6d@4ax.com>
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:48:11 -0400, "daniel kaplan"
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> My apologies for my imprecision: I meant for him to unsubscribe, since
>> to killfile everyone here who doesn't agree with him would have roughly
>> the same effect.
>
>again, read my my post...not looking for people to agree with me....looking
>for "opinions" on products, methods, etc. but obviously you miss the point
>of what a newsgroup (for developers) is really for
Then you *are* looking for people agreeing with you... on what a
newsgroup is really for.
The point is that as a matter of a fact resourses are limited. Accept
it! Granted we're all here to learn, and possibly to share what we
already know. But to waste time on questions that are so trivial and
OTOH are excellently treated in a FAQ is a waste of those limited
resources that prevents other, more interesting topics from being
trated adequately. It has already been told to you, but appearently
you won't listen, but some precious contributors here have left this
group because of the too high noise/signal ratio. Doesn't this tell
anything to you?
Michele
--
{$_=pack'B8'x25,unpack'A8'x32,$a^=sub{pop^pop}->(map substr
(($a||=join'',map--$|x$_,(unpack'w',unpack'u','G^<R<Y]*YB='
.'KYU;*EVH[.FHF2W+#"\Z*5TI/ER<Z`S(G.DZZ9OX0Z')=~/./g)x2,$_,
256),7,249);s/[^\w,]/ /g;$ \=/^J/?$/:"\r";print,redo}#JAPH,
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:34:03 +0200
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: MAIL recommendation
Message-Id: <2u9qisF27kscoU1@uni-berlin.de>
Michele Dondi wrote:
> to waste time on questions that are so trivial and OTOH are
> excellently treated in a FAQ is a waste of those limited resources
> that prevents other, more interesting topics from being trated
> adequately.
As Jim pointed out in another sub-thread, the question that started this
huge thread is not "excellently treated" in the FAQ. I posted a
suggestion, but I don't know if anybody but Jim saw it...
The noise ratio in this group is indeed annoying. :(
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:26:29 GMT
From: "Noname" <Noname@hot.com>
Subject: MAP question
Message-Id: <peOfd.28816$g4.539093@news2.nokia.com>
I know I am wrong some where but could not figure it out , though it
may sound silly to some ,
I have an array from which I am trying to create hash, below is the
code line,
my %ALLRELEASES=map {chomp $_} @_tem;
all I get is empty has, if I don't use "chomp" i get atleast some
elements
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:32:10 GMT
From: "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: MAP question
Message-Id: <KjOfd.3629$Xq3.77@trndny01>
"Noname" <Noname@hot.com> wrote in message
news:peOfd.28816$g4.539093@news2.nokia.com...
> I know I am wrong some where but could not figure it out , though it
> may sound silly to some ,
> I have an array from which I am trying to create hash, below is the
> code line,
> my %ALLRELEASES=map {chomp $_} @_tem;
> all I get is empty has, if I don't use "chomp" i get atleast some
> elements
You are confused about the return value of the 'chomp' function. It does
not return the chomped string. Please see:
perldoc -f chomp
If you wanted to use this method, you would have to return $_ from map's
block:
my %allReleases = map { chomp $_; $_ } @_tem;
However, the question needs to be asked as to what you think you're
doing with this? Does your array contain a list of key/value pairs,
such as:
@_temp = ('one', 1, 'two', 2, 'three', 3);
If so, you don't need map at all. Just assign a hash to the values from
the array:
%allReleases = @_tem;
If you want to apply the 'chomp' function to all elements of the array,
do so:
chomp @_tem;
(Just don't try to combine those two statements into one - for the same
reason as your initial error)
Paul Lalli
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Date: 27 Oct 2004 17:03:40 +0200
From: Arndt Jonasson <do-not-use@invalid.net>
Subject: Re: MAP question
Message-Id: <yzdzn282ofn.fsf@invalid.net>
"Noname" <Noname@hot.com> writes:
> I know I am wrong some where but could not figure it out , though it
> may sound silly to some ,
> I have an array from which I am trying to create hash, below is the
> code line,
> my %ALLRELEASES=map {chomp $_} @_tem;
> all I get is empty has, if I don't use "chomp" i get atleast some
> elements
(Slight newbie-warning - I'm not experienced myself.)
You could give an example of the contents of @_tem. It's pretty much
guesswork now. At least one thing that is likely to be wrong is that
'chomp' doesn't return the chomped string - it returns the number of
characters removed, as "perldoc -f chomp" will tell you.
This might be what you want, but maybe not:
my %ALLRELEASES=map {chomp $_; $_} @_tem;
I don't know how @_tmp was constructed, but I would probably want
to do the chomping already before the strings went into the array.
Then you would only need
my %ALLRELEASES= @_tem;
You could chomp all the strings in the list, the doc says, so we can do
it this way:
chomp @_tem;
my %ALLRELEASES= @_tem;
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:06:24 GMT
From: "Noname" <Noname@hot.com>
Subject: Re: MAP question
Message-Id: <QPOfd.28817$g4.539696@news2.nokia.com>
Paul Lalli wrote:
> "Noname" <Noname@hot.com> wrote in message
> news:peOfd.28816$g4.539093@news2.nokia.com...
> > I know I am wrong some where but could not figure it out , though it
> > may sound silly to some ,
> > I have an array from which I am trying to create hash, below is the
> > code line,
> > my %ALLRELEASES=map {chomp $_} @_tem;
> > all I get is empty has, if I don't use "chomp" i get atleast some
> > elements
>
> You are confused about the return value of the 'chomp' function. It
> does not return the chomped string. Please see:
> perldoc -f chomp
>
> If you wanted to use this method, you would have to return $_ from
> map's block:
> my %allReleases = map { chomp $_; $_ } @_tem;
>
> However, the question needs to be asked as to what you think you're
> doing with this? Does your array contain a list of key/value pairs,
> such as:
> @_temp = ('one', 1, 'two', 2, 'three', 3);
>
> If so, you don't need map at all. Just assign a hash to the values
> from the array:
>
> %allReleases = @_tem;
>
> If you want to apply the 'chomp' function to all elements of the
> array, do so:
> chomp @_tem;
> (Just don't try to combine those two statements into one - for the
> same reason as your initial error)
>
> Paul Lalli
I realized my mistake, of chomp, thanks
but now the question in @_tem array has values
('one','two','three','four);
which when initializes as > %allReleases = @_tem;
it becomes one=>two,three=>four,
what I want is all the values in array becomes keys of hash
I hope I am talking some sence
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:55:49 -0400
From: Chris Mattern <matternc@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file.
Message-Id: <8LSdnXo7GMp4NeLcRVn-tw@comcast.com>
Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>> Ahem ... so, you want us to violate the license for this code and do
>> so in public?
>>
>>>##########################################################
>>># EZscripting.co.uk © 1999 - 2004 Copyright Darren Deans
>>
>> ...
>>
>>># The redistribution of modified versions of the scripts is
>>># prohibited.
>>
>> ...
>
> Does that really mean that you are not allowed to modify the script for
> your own use, i.e. as long as you don't distribute the modified version
> to somebody else?
But that's what he's asking. He wants *us* to modify the script and
then redistribute it to *him*.
--
Christopher Mattern
"Which one you figure tracked us?"
"The ugly one, sir."
"...Could you be more specific?"
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:57:59 +0200
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file.
Message-Id: <2u9oekF279ajpU1@uni-berlin.de>
Abigail wrote:
> Gunnar Hjalmarsson (noreply@gunnar.cc) wrote on MMMMLXXV September
> MCMXCIII in <URL:news:2u8hu9F27vmlbU1@uni-berlin.de>:
> -: A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> -: > Ahem ... so, you want us to violate the license for this code and do
> -: > so in public?
> -: >
> -: >>##########################################################
> -: >># EZscripting.co.uk © 1999 - 2004 Copyright Darren Deans
> -: >
> -: > ...
> -: >
> -: >># The redistribution of modified versions of the scripts is
> -: >># prohibited.
> -: >
> -: > ...
> -:
> -: Does that really mean that you are not allowed to modify the script for
> -: your own use, i.e. as long as you don't distribute the modified version
> -: to somebody else?
>
> That doesn't matter.
>
> It certainly prohibits any reader from this script to add the features
> the OP wants and return the modified script to the OP.
Well, I'm not a lawyer, but that didn't convince me. If you were right,
a script that may be modified for own use could only be modified by the
person who would actually use it, while that person wouldn't be allowed
to hire a consultant to help him.
That interpretation is simpy unreasonable.
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:59:57 +0200
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file.
Message-Id: <2u9oiaF279ajpU2@uni-berlin.de>
Chris Mattern wrote:
> Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
>> Does that really mean that you are not allowed to modify the script
>> for your own use, i.e. as long as you don't distribute the modified
>> version to somebody else?
>
> But that's what he's asking. He wants *us* to modify the script and
> then redistribute it to *him*.
Please see my reply to Abigail.
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: 27 Oct 2004 14:42:44 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file.
Message-Id: <Xns958F6CF8F13AEasu1cornelledu@132.236.56.8>
Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc> wrote in
news:2u9oekF279ajpU1@uni-berlin.de:
> Abigail wrote:
>> Gunnar Hjalmarsson (noreply@gunnar.cc) wrote on MMMMLXXV September
>> MCMXCIII in <URL:news:2u8hu9F27vmlbU1@uni-berlin.de>:
>> -: A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>> -: > Ahem ... so, you want us to violate the license for this code
>> and do -: > so in public?
>> -: >
>> -: >>##########################################################
>> -: >># EZscripting.co.uk © 1999 - 2004 Copyright Darren Deans
>> -: >
>> -: > ...
>> -: >
>> -: >># The redistribution of modified versions of the scripts is
>> -: >># prohibited.
>> -: >
>> -: > ...
>> -:
>> -: Does that really mean that you are not allowed to modify the
>> script for -: your own use, i.e. as long as you don't distribute the
>> modified version -: to somebody else?
>>
>> That doesn't matter.
>>
>> It certainly prohibits any reader from this script to add the
>> features the OP wants and return the modified script to the OP.
>
> Well, I'm not a lawyer, but that didn't convince me. If you were
> right, a script that may be modified for own use could only be
> modified by the person who would actually use it, while that person
> wouldn't be allowed to hire a consultant to help him.
>
> That interpretation is simpy unreasonable.
Lawyers, especially in the U.S., don't worry about things like 'reason'.
If there is any ambiguity that can be used to sue someone so that they
will settle rather than pay the costs of fighting, they will do it. Look
at the SCO lawsuit.
By the way, the example of hiring a consultant is not the same thing as
me modifying a script and posting it on the UseNet.
Are you trying to imply that the license conditions actually allow me to
do that?
Sinan.
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:48:12 +0200
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: Modify program to write just data to a text file.
Message-Id: <2u9rdpF28btapU1@uni-berlin.de>
A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
>> Abigail wrote:
>>> It certainly prohibits any reader from this script to add the
>>> features the OP wants and return the modified script to the OP.
>>
>> Well, I'm not a lawyer, but that didn't convince me. If you were
>> right, a script that may be modified for own use could only be
>> modified by the person who would actually use it, while that person
>> wouldn't be allowed to hire a consultant to help him.
>>
>> That interpretation is simpy unreasonable.
>
> Lawyers, especially in the U.S., don't worry about things like
> 'reason'. If there is any ambiguity that can be used to sue someone
> so that they will settle rather than pay the costs of fighting, they
> will do it. Look at the SCO lawsuit.
Yeah, the lawyer surplus in the US, and the resulting exaggerated fear
of being sued, is both amusing and frightening. ;-)
> By the way, the example of hiring a consultant is not the same thing
> as me modifying a script and posting it on the UseNet.
>
> Are you trying to imply that the license conditions actually allow me
> to do that?
Probably not to post the modified script on Usenet. But that's not what
Abigail said. Neither did Chris.
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:42:05 -0500
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: open-perl-ide qustion
Message-Id: <slrncnv5st.q1r.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> daniel kaplan <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
>> > hehehe ... I had mastered vi long before I ever heard of an IDE. Alas,
>> > the great unwashed masses have forced me to write m$ windoze
>> > applications for a living.
>>
>> gotta right for the masses, or you don't eat. 1 month ago i would have
>> flatout defended MS period. And in a way I still, lots of what IS today,
>> woudln't be if it weren't for them. However, what they did to me, one month
>> ago...ooooh. words cannot describe. and this isn't the place for it
>> anyways.....
>
> Then why did you post it?
Because that is what trolls do, they like to hear themselves talk.
(even when they don't have anything to say)
> It has zero informative content.
Yet another trollish characteristic to pile on top of all of
the others he has accumulated. Are we surprised?
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:44:54 -0500
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: Reducing amount of repetative code
Message-Id: <slrncnv9im.q1r.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
Brad <szpara_ga@o2.pl> wrote:
> I'm trying to reduce some code which repeats itself
> in my program, but I can't find a clever way to do it.
Look-ahead can be used for that.
> if (/^;\s+Key1: (.*)/)
> $object->method('a string connect with Key1' => $1);
> if (/^;\s+Key2: (.*) \d\d:\d\d/)
> if (/^;\s+Key3: (.*)/)
> Can anyone think of a way to reduce the amount of code here?
You can replace all 3 if's with this one (untested):
if ( /^;\s+(Key[123]): (.*?)(?=\d\d:\d\d|$)/ ) {
$object->method("a string connect with $1" => $2);
}
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 07:07:12 -0500
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: regex trick needed
Message-Id: <slrncnv3rg.q1r.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
Arndt Jonasson <do-not-use@invalid.net> wrote:
>
> Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> writes:
>> Patrick Drouin <patrick.drouin@umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> > Although the description of my problem was not very clear, you guys
>> > pointed me in the right direction. Here's what I used:
>> >
>> > $rule =~ s/\$(\w+)/${$1}/g;
>>
>>
>> You should put "use strict;" in all of your Perl programs!
>
> Sorry for being dense, but what would "use strict" complain about in
> the above statement?
It uses Symbolic References.
> Putting it inside a plausible-looking function
> gave me no warnings at all. Placing it as the only statement in a file
> gave me
>
> "Global symbol "$rule" requires explicit package name at ./foo.pl line 9 (#1)".
>
> Is that what you meant?
It would be a runtime error:
Can't use string ("foo") as a SCALAR ref while "strict refs" in use at ...
----------------
#!/usr/bin/perl
use warnings;
use strict;
our $foo = 'FOO';
my $rule = '$foo bar';
$rule =~ s/\$(\w+)/${$1}/g;
print "$rule\n";
----------------
The code won't work with lexical (my) variables, only with
package (our) variables.
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 15:55:52 +0200
From: "tor" <torfinnk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Thanks you, it works
Message-Id: <417fa8e8$0$244$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk>
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Date: 27 Oct 2004 14:01:40 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Thanks you, it works
Message-Id: <Xns958F66029E7B5asu1cornelledu@132.236.56.8>
"tor" <torfinnk@hotmail.com> wrote in news:417fa8e8$0$244
$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk:
>
>
This is not instant messaging.
There is no way to tell whom you are thanking and/or what you are thanking
that person for. We have is this message all by its lonesome. Don't do
this.
There is an effective style of communication that you are strongly
recommended to become acquainted with. You can find the posting guidelines
at:
http://www.google.com/search?q=comp.lang.perl.misc+guidelines
Sinan.
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#or:
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NOTE: due to the current flood of worm email banging on ruby, the smtp
server on ruby has been shut off until further notice.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
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#To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
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#For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
#perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
#sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
#answer them even if I did know the answer.
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End of Perl-Users Digest V10 Issue 7321
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