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Today's topics:
ANNOUNCE: Sort::Maker .02 <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: Appending two arrays horizontally (David Combs)
Re: Assistance parsing text file using Text::CSV_XS <bmb@ginger.libs.uga.edu>
Re: how to use Perl to rename the filenames and directo <dwall@fastmail.fm>
missing 0s (Min Wang)
Re: missing 0s <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: Newbie: Win32:Sound:WaveOut problem <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Re: OS/2 port of Perl 5.8 not adding CR to \n (Seymour J.)
Re: OS/2 port of Perl 5.8 not adding CR to \n (Seymour J.)
Re: Perl printer help <joericochuyt@msn.com>
Re: Perl printer help <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Re: PERL5LIB - @INC - machine dependant subdirs <koos@no.spam>
Re: q about MIME:Lite and using Bcc <dwall@fastmail.fm>
Re: Regex matching a string that DOESN'T contain a give <miknrene@drizzle.com>
Re: Xah Lee's Unixism <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Re: Xah Lee's Unixism <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 04:09:12 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Sort::Maker .02
Message-Id: <I3EBJC.1xsI@zorch.sf-bay.org>
Sort::Maker .02 was uploaded to CPAN and should propogate out soon. It
is a module that makes it very easy to generate efficient sort code in
Perl. You pass it descriptions of the sort keys and it returns a sub
which will sort your data.
It can generate sorts in any of four styles, plain, orcish, ST and
GRT. It is fully documented and has many tests and benchmarks. You can
easily add more tests and benchmarks as they are table driven.
Send all feddback, bug reports, pod edits, etc. to uri@stemsystems.com
also see the paper on perl sorting (which is the background for this
module) at:
http://www.sysarch.com/perl/sort_paper.html
uri
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Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 04:42:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs)
Subject: Re: Appending two arrays horizontally
Message-Id: <ch68ao$auq$1@reader1.panix.com>
Thanks to both of you.
I'll give the example a try.
Thanks again!
David
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Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 19:55:41 -0400
From: Brad Baxter <bmb@ginger.libs.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Assistance parsing text file using Text::CSV_XS
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.4.58.0409011948450.36010@ginger.libs.uga.edu>
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Anno Siegel wrote:
> Scott W Gifford <gifford@umich.edu> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> > "Domenico Discepola" <domenico_discepola@quadrachemicals.com> writes:
> >
> > > Hello. I'm trying to parse a text file into a 2-d array using Text::CSV_XS.
> > > The input file is structured as follows. "Fields" are separated with a
> > > "\x0d\x0a" (CRLF) and are enclosed in double-quotes. "Records" are
> > > separated with a "\x0c" (FF). My fields can contain embedded CRLF's hence
> > > the need for double-quoting. How can I use Text::CSV_XS to solve my
> > > problem? My code below only outputs the first line in the input file.
> > > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Text::CSV_XS assumes that it's handed a full record at a time, and
> > expects you to independently figure out where one record ends and the
> > next one begins.
>
> Well, *record* separation is easily done in this case. Just set
>
> local $/ = "x0c";
>
> and use <>, chomp() and whatever as usual to get one record each time.
> If CSV_XS isn't upset by embedded linefeeds as such it can do the hard
> part.
It isn't upset if you specify 'binary' => 1 in the new() call.
> OP only mentions embedded record separators, not field separators, so
> this should work.
I see a reference to an 'eol' character in CSV_XS, but it's apparently
only for output--not reading.
Regards,
Brad
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 05:03:12 -0000
From: "David K. Wall" <dwall@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: how to use Perl to rename the filenames and directory names under current and subdirectories recursively?
Message-Id: <Xns9558AB85146Ddkwwashere@216.168.3.30>
"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote:
> "lucy" <losemind@yahoo.com> wrote in news:ch5bu2$s4b$1@news.Stanford.EDU:
>
>> Is there a way to use Perl command line
>>
>> to rename all the filenames and directory names
>>
>> from '*abcd*.*' to '*xyz*.*'
>>
>> and do this recursively for all files and all subdirectories?
>
>
> use File::Find;
I thought about replying with just "yes". After all, the question wasn't
"how?", but "is there a way?"
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Date: 1 Sep 2004 15:44:21 -0700
From: dbymw@yahoo.com (Min Wang)
Subject: missing 0s
Message-Id: <8da89ef8.0409011444.662f940d@posting.google.com>
I have line in a file
001-02-0003
I do
($a,$b,$c) = split('-',$_) after read.
Now I print them I get 1,2,3 instead of 001,02,0003.
Please help and thanks.
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 01:03:23 +0200
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: missing 0s
Message-Id: <2pn32uFmcsn0U1@uni-berlin.de>
Min Wang wrote:
> I have line in a file
> 001-02-0003
>
> I do
> ($a,$b,$c) = split('-',$_) after read.
> Now I print them I get 1,2,3 instead of 001,02,0003.
$_ = '001-02-0003';
my ($x,$y,$z) = split /-/;
print "$x,$y,$z\n";
Outputs:
001,02,0003
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 23:24:40 GMT
From: "DG" <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Subject: Re: Newbie: Win32:Sound:WaveOut problem
Message-Id: <YSsZc.272677$eM2.83574@attbi_s51>
I found a solution to this problem at:
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/activeperl/1520559
It seems that the Win32::Sound:WaveOut module has a bug. It won't open
files. The above link tells how to fix this module.
Also, I discovered that the documentation for "Play([FROM, TO])" is also
incorrect. It should be "Play([FROM, LENGTH])". For example: if you want
to play starting from sample #1200 to sample #1800 (LENGTH = 1800 - 1200 =
600), the documentation leads you to believe that you should use
"$WAV->Play(1200,1800)". My tests show that statement to be incorrect. The
correct statement should be "$WAV->Play(1200,600)". In other words
"$WAV->Play([FROM, LENGTH])".
I hope this info helps someone else.
DG
"DG" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:z1iZc.96511$Fg5.43900@attbi_s53...
> Hello and thanks for the help,
>
> I would like to play a *portion* of a wav file (say from sample 400 to
> sample 9000) on a Windows machine.
> Unfortunately, I'm unable to get my code to work. Below are my tests.
>
> I tried the following code:
>
> use Win32::Sound;
> $WAV = new Win32::Sound::WaveOut("klaxton.wav"); #open "klaxton.wav"
> located in the current directory
> $WAV->Play(400,9000); #play from sample 400
to
> sample 9000
>
>
> When I run it, I get the following error messages:
> Use of uninitialized value at C:/Perl/site/lib/Win32/Sound.pm line 109.
> Argument "klaxton.wav" isn't numeric in entersub at
> C:/Perl/site/lib/Win32/Sound.pm line 109.
>
>
> So I tried the modified code below:
>
> use Win32::Sound;
> $WAV = new Win32::Sound::WaveOut(); #use defaults
> $WAV->Open("klaxton.wav"); #open "klaxton.wav" located in the
> current directory
> $WAV->Play(400,9000); #play from sample 400 to sample
9000
>
> When I run it, I get the following error messages:
> Use of uninitialized value at C:/Perl/site/lib/Win32/Sound.pm line 109.
> Use of uninitialized value at C:/Perl/site/lib/Win32/Sound.pm line 109.
> Use of uninitialized value at C:/Perl/site/lib/Win32/Sound.pm line 109.
> Use of uninitialized value at x.bat line 28.
> Argument "klaxton.wav" isn't numeric in entersub at x.bat line 28.
>
>
> To test the Sound package, I ran the following code (it worked fine):
> use Win32::Sound;
> Win32::Sound::Play("klaxton.wav");
>
>
> To test the WaveOut package, I ran the example code given in the
> documentation (shown below). It worked fine.
>
>
> use Win32::Sound;
>
> # Create the object
> $WAV = new Win32::Sound::WaveOut(44100, 8, 2);
>
> $data = "";
> $counter = 0;
> $increment = 440/44100;
>
> # Generate 44100 samples ( = 1 second)
> for $i (1..44100) {
>
> # Calculate the pitch
> # (range 0..255 for 8 bits)
> $v = sin($counter/2*3.14) * 128 + 128;
>
> # "pack" it twice for left and right
> $data .= pack("cc", $v, $v);
>
> $counter += $increment;
> }
>
> $WAV->Load($data); # get it
> $WAV->Write(); # hear it
> 1 until $WAV->Status(); # wait for completion
> $WAV->Save("sinus.wav"); # write to disk
> $WAV->Unload(); # drop it
>
>
> So the packages are working. The wav file is present. Yet I can't get
my
> original code to work. What am I doing wrong?
>
> thanks for the help,
> DG
>
>
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:29:32 -0300
From: "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Subject: Re: OS/2 port of Perl 5.8 not adding CR to \n
Message-Id: <41365b5c$3$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>
In <ch3msf$tvl$1@agate.berkeley.edu>, on 09/01/2004
at 05:31 AM, Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> said:
>The first condition may be detected by
[H:\]perl -wle "print OS2::DLLname"
G:/EMX/DLL/PERL312F.DLL
[H:\]perl -wle "print $^X"
G:/EMX/BIN/PERL.EXE
>and perl -V
Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 8 subversion 2)
configuration:
Platform:
osname=os2, osvers=2.30, archname=os2
uname='os2 ia-ia 2 2.30 i386 '
config_args='-des -D prefix=i:/perllib'
hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef
usemultiplicity=unde f
useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usemymalloc=y, bincompat5005=undef
Compiler:
cc='gcc', ccflags ='-Zomf -Zmt -DDOSISH -DOS2=2 -DEMBED -I.
-D_EMX_CRT_REV_=
60',
optimize='-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -malign-loops=2 -malign-jumps=2
-malign-f unctions=2 -s',
cppflags='-Zomf -Zmt -DDOSISH -DOS2=2 -DEMBED -I.
-D_EMX_CRT_REV_=60'
ccversion='', gccversion='2.8.1', gccosandvers=''
intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234
d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define,
longdblsize=12
ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t',
lseeksize =4
alignbytes=4, prototype=define
Linker and Libraries:
ld='gcc', ldflags ='-Zexe -Zomf -Zmt -Zcrtdll -Zstack 32000
-Zlinker /e:2'
libpth=i:/emx.add/lib i:/emx/lib i:/emx.f77/lib
D:/DEVTOOLS/OPENGL/LIB I:/JAVA11/LIB i:/emx/lib/mt
libs=-lsocket -lm -lbsd -lcrypt
perllibs=-lsocket -lm -lbsd -lcrypt
libc=i:/emx/lib/mt/c_import.lib, so=dll, useshrplib=true,
libperl=libperl.lib
gnulibc_version=''
Dynamic Linking:
dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=dll, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
cccdlflags='-Zdll', lddlflags='-Zdll -Zomf -Zmt -Zcrtdll -Zlinker
/e:2'
Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES
Built under os2
Compiled at Dec 14 2003 01:02:36
%ENV:
PERLIO=":crlf"
PERLLIB_PREFIX="i:/perllib/lib;G:\PERLLIB\LIB"
PERL_BADLANG="0"
PERL_SH_DIR="G:\BIN"
@INC:
G:/PERLLIB/LIB/5.8.2/os2
G:/PERLLIB/LIB/5.8.2
G:/PERLLIB/LIB/site_perl/5.8.2/os2
G:/PERLLIB/LIB/site_perl/5.8.2
G:/PERLLIB/LIB/site_perl/5.00553
G:/PERLLIB/LIB/site_perl
.
>Hope this helps,
Well, it suggests looking at the BWwhois code rather than the Perl
installation itself, but I don't see what is causing the problem.
Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 20:18:30 -0300
From: "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid>
Subject: Re: OS/2 port of Perl 5.8 not adding CR to \n
Message-Id: <413666d6$4$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>
In <ch2idj$h3o$1@agate.berkeley.edu>, on 08/31/2004
at 07:09 PM, Ilya Zakharevich <nospam-abuse@ilyaz.org> said:
>Since it is not a port, but a build, your question does not make
>sense.
Then is <http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/I/IL/ILYAZ/os2/582+/> the most
recent stable build for OS/2?
> perl -we "%ENV=(); system $^X, @ARGV" -- -e "print qq(a\nb\n)"
That works. I didn't need to double the %, and doing so causes an
error message.
I've played around with the failing program, and have a somewhat
shoreter test case. I have one version that works, and one that fails,
differing only in the code
BEGIN {
$E::errno_okay = 0;
if(eval "require Errno") {
Errno->import();
$E::errno_okay = 1;
}
$E::dbi_okay = 0;
if(eval "require DBI") {
$E::dbi_okay = 1;
}
$E::cgi_okay = 0;
if(eval "require CGI") {
$E::cgi_okay = 1;
}
$E::bwInclude_okay = 0;
if(eval "require bwInclude") {
$E::bwInclude_okay = 1;
}
}
>Hope this helps,
Thank you. Any idea why the above code would affect the \n handling?
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 19:16:53 -0400
From: "yusufdestina" <joericochuyt@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Perl printer help
Message-Id: <44f20515b9880254edf383649a111574@localhost.talkaboutprogramming.com>
Ok tnx m8 got it working now !
For those who struggel with the installation:
*download the binary package (Win32-Printer-0.8.3-ppd.zip)
*unzip it
*in prompt type: ppm.bat install
c:\Path\to\Win32-Printer-0.8.3-ppd\Win32-Printer.ppd
It worked for me!
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Date: 2 Sep 2004 00:48:01 GMT
From: "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
Subject: Re: Perl printer help
Message-Id: <Xns9557D3988F66Aasu1cornelledu@132.236.56.8>
"yusufdestina" <joericochuyt@msn.com> wrote in
news:44f20515b9880254edf383649a111574@localhost.talkaboutprogramming.com:
> Ok tnx m8 got it working now !
I am assuming that is a nice sentiment you are trying to express above.
If so, why not spell it out?
> For those who struggel with the installation:
> *download the binary package (Win32-Printer-0.8.3-ppd.zip)
> *unzip it
> *in prompt type: ppm.bat install
> c:\Path\to\Win32-Printer-0.8.3-ppd\Win32-Printer.ppd
Which are the directions given in the file called readme.txt. You read
that before struggling with the installation, right?
> It worked for me!
Glad to be of help.
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 08:43:24 +0200
From: Koos Pol <koos@no.spam>
Subject: Re: PERL5LIB - @INC - machine dependant subdirs
Message-Id: <newscache$ciie3i$ka6$1@news.emea.compuware.com>
Brian McCauley wrote (Wednesday 01 September 2004 19:20):
> Can I just confirm - you are saying that:
>
> PERL5LIB=/home/koos/my_perl_app/lib
>
> And there is at least one of the directories:
>
> /home/koos/my_perl_app/lib/5.8.0/i586-linux-thread-multi
> /home/koos/my_perl_app/lib/i586-linux-thread-multi
>
> And you are running perl 5.8.0
>
> But that those directories do not appear in @INC?
By asking the right questions you had me find the solution:
I haven't got
/home/koos/my_perl_app/lib/5.8.0/i586-linux-thread-multi
/home/koos/my_perl_app/lib/i586-linux-thread-multi
but
/home/koos/my_perl_app/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i586-linux-thread-multi
/home/koos/my_perl_app/lib/perl5/i586-linux-thread-multi
^^^^^
Note how 'perl5' sits there in between.
Using PERL5LIB=/home/koos/my_perl_app/lib/perl5 the machine
dependant directories are added to @INC :-)
Funny though that this demonstrates a discrepancy between PREFIX
and PERL5LIB. Can't remember that I had to pull these tricks in
the 5.004 generation.
Thanks for helping me out :-)
Koos
--
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fortune: Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 05:03:04 -0000
From: "David K. Wall" <dwall@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: q about MIME:Lite and using Bcc
Message-Id: <Xns9558AB258378dkwwashere@216.168.3.30>
botfood@yahoo.com (dan baker) wrote:
> I have been trying all kinds of ways to add Bcc recipients to email
> generated with MIME:Lite on a windows 98 pre-compiled install from
> ActiveState and sent via SMTP. The version says it is $Id: Lite.pm,v
> 2.102 2000/08/15 01:32:50 eryq Exp $
>
> does anyone have an example,
There are a number of examples in the docs for MIME::Lite.
> or can you verify that bcc does indeed
> work with this version on this platform?
Sorry, I don't have win98 available.
> this should work: ???
> $msg = MIME::Lite->new(
> From => $Sender ,
> To => $Recipient ,
> Bcc =>
> 'test1@mydomain.com,test2@mydomain.com' ,
> Subject => $Subject ,
> Type => $Type ,
> Data => $Body
> );
That piece of the program looks OK. What happened when you tried it?
Perhaps you could post a short but *complete* program that exhibits the
problem you're having, the expected output and the actual output, then
maybe we could help.
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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:06:00 -0700
From: Michael Slass <miknrene@drizzle.com>
Subject: Re: Regex matching a string that DOESN'T contain a given word
Message-Id: <m31xhld1yf.fsf@eric.rossnet.com>
"secret" <secret@secret.com> writes:
>That's the advice I was in need of!
>
>Thanks Michael, negative lookahead is indeed my friend! And if this
>question does make it into th FAQ then this is the answer I would have been
>searching for. My problem was finding the right words to google on. I'm
>sure this question has been answered before but I'm damned if I could find
>it with my search words...
>
>alan
>
That's great. I'd be curious to hear about your results; you can
email me directly since we're now pretty much OffTopic for a perl
group.
Best.
--
Mike Slass
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Date: 01 Sep 04 11:08:17 -0800
From: "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Subject: Re: Xah Lee's Unixism
Message-Id: <1599.740T867T6683932@kltpzyxm.invalid>
In article <Yb6Zc.32434$Es2.12983421@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>,
jwkenne@attglobal.net (John W. Kennedy) writes:
>Craig A. Finseth wrote:
>
>> Wrong. The / was chosen as the command line option separator
>> because whoever wrote MSDOS was looking to CP/M, who modelled
>> their commands after a PDP-11 operating system (RT-11?). Consider
>> the "PIP" command.
At least PIP would copy zero-length files.
>> When they went to MS/DOS 2.0 and needed path separators, they
>> found that "/" was already taken, so they used "\". But there
>> was a hidden way to tell the command interpreter that it could
>> use "-" for options.
>
>Except, of course, that it was useless, because 99% of programs did
>their own option parsing, and still do. The hidden option only lasted
>one .1 subrelease, as I recall.
Yes, my programs indeed do their own parsing. And they insist on
"-", no matter which OS they're running on. :-)
>> And in all systems starting with 2.0, the system calls have taken "/"
>> and "\" interchangably.
>
>...which is /one/ thing that the FLOSS community can honestly thank them
>for.
Now, do you trust Microsoft to keep it that way? I don't. That's why
my programs are full of things like:
#ifdef DOSWIN
strcat (filespec, "\\");
#else
strcat (filespec, "/");
#endif
Yes, it's bulky and ugly. But it's also future-proof.
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Date: 01 Sep 04 11:11:12 -0800
From: "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Subject: Re: Xah Lee's Unixism
Message-Id: <819.740T630T6713647@kltpzyxm.invalid>
In article <4135cea1$0$19726$61fed72c@news.rcn.com>, jmfbahciv@aol.com
(jmfbahciv) writes:
>In article <aN2Zc.10226$QJ3.5466@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
>red floyd <no.spam@here.dude> wrote:
>
>>CBFalconer wrote:
>>
>>> Dump Notepad and get Textpad. www.textpad.com. First class.
>>>
>>
>>Let the editor flame wars begin!
>>
>>Get gvim! www.vim.org
>
>You think notepad is an editor? <snort> You must be young
>and inexperienced in the ways of Real Man's Editing sports.
I'll give up CygnusEd (and the Amiga it runs on) when they
pry it from my cold dead fingers.
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:01:39 GMT
From: Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com>
Subject: Re: Xah Lee's Unixism
Message-Id: <Pine.SOL.4.58.0409011700580.9082@zaphod.rite-group.com>
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
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Well said, that man! (Here, HTML messages are bounced by my
mail server, so I don't even see 'em...)
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Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 00:43:03 +0100 (BST)
From: bhk@dsl.co.uk (Brian {Hamilton Kelly})
Subject: Re: Xah Lee's Unixism
Message-Id: <20040901.2343.57633snz@dsl.co.uk>
On Wednesday, in article
<10jc7cu7e57koaa@corp.supernews.com>
wyrmwif@tango-sierra-oscar-foxtrot-tango.fake.org "SM Ryan"
wrote:
> There's a story about why railroad tracks are spaced the way they are.
Is this the one about two Roman horses' arses? If so, it also accounts
for the physical dimensions of the Space Shuttle's boosters.
--
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"I don't use Linux. I prefer to use an OS supported by a large multi-
national vendor, with a good office suite, excellent network/internet
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2004 21:59:12 GMT
From: "Amanita, Love Ewe" <ladyamanita@aol.com>
Subject: YOU ALL SUCK!
Message-Id: <1bf5bcb9.15695836@aol.com>
You are all a bunch of worthless motherfuckers!
=
Sharon expects the printer within hers and actually looks. Why will you
grasp the ugly worthwhile onions before Satam does? Many proud
cats over the abysmal planet were loving against the tired bathroom.
I was irritating jars to rural David, who's lifting in the pin's
night. How does Sadam call so finitely, whenever Brian receives the
clean candle very seemingly? I am annually heavy, so I mould you. To be
bizarre or inner will change active buckets to angrily play.
Why doesn't Jadallah excuse truly? What will we pull after David
kills the lost mountain's envelope? Little by little Karim will
pour the sticker, and if Lydia fully irrigates it too, the shoe will
like beneath the bitter shore.
Do not tease a jacket! Lately, cases climb against elder stations, unless they're
healthy. Otherwise the kettle in Pervez's fork might help some
blunt yogis. The farmers, puddles, and weavers are all filthy and
think. Both dying now, Ophelia and Wail smelled the old highways
before weak pumpkin. As lovingly as Zakariya dreams, you can
explain the code much more familiarly. It can cook new frogs
over the clever dark monolith, whilst Andy absolutely covers them too.
Lots of cheap grocer or lake, and she'll loudly converse everybody. My
younger tape won't arrive before I open it. Are you sour, I mean,
moving for cold coconuts? All butchers incredibly hate the long
star. No open jugs nibble Founasse, and they quietly attack
Ramsi too.
For Atiqullah the pear's quiet, behind me it's distant, whereas
throughout you it's creeping angry. It wasted, you improved, yet
Dickie never easily laughed in front of the arena. Greg! You'll
taste wrinkles. Nowadays, I'll sow the button. She may measure
badly if Atiqullah's diet isn't rich. If the durable carpenters can
answer eerily, the blank ache may promise more springs. You won't
judge me wandering beside your cosmetic desert. Get your unbelievably
seeking draper within my summer.
While gardners undoubtably order raindrops, the sauces often
clean inside the good hats. They are dining through young, outside
sticky, above strange spoons. A lot of units will be deep short
figs. She may walk the difficult ulcer and scold it through its
plain. Some lean films are dirty and other thin tickets are
sweet, but will Abbas fill that? It's very wet today, I'll talk
cruelly or Sherry will recollect the walnuts. What did Al believe
between all the cans? We can't jump pools unless Yosri will
happily attempt afterwards. Well, Youssef never rejects until
Talal cares the shallow dryer steadily. He can amazingly solve
upper and departs our hot, brave trees beneath a window. Who
joins partly, when Quinton kicks the unique tag on the hill? We
learn them, then we wrongly live Abdullah and Abu's stupid frame. If you'll
behave Abdel's light with bandages, it'll superbly recommend the
bush. Try combing the store's closed cobbler and Haji will fear you!
Lately, it shouts a book too smart inside her full monument. Her
game was sick, raw, and burns in back of the road. Pilar, have a
sad pickle. You won't irrigate it. Sayed's tailor converses
over our cup after we kick between it. Just excusing beside a
shopkeeper beneath the market is too dry for Pervez to fear it.
One more glad handsome oranges will inadvertently open the eggs. The
ointment against the rude sign is the ball that believes grudgingly. Let's
burn in the noisy obelisks, but don't climb the bad lemons.
Every wide fresh twig rejects desks within Yosri's light sauce. Tell
Jadallah it's poor expecting above a dose.
He might answer furiously, unless Norm scolds cars above Haji's
carrot. I was explaining to look you some of my solid coffees. Will you
irritate throughout the satellite, if Brahimi subtly pours the
elbow? Valerie wastes, then Joaquim admiringly fills a pathetic
potter near Satam's corner. The fat powder rarely lives Alexis, it
receives Ibraheem instead. Better join boats now or Charles will
virtually behave them about you. Until Allan teases the porters
wickedly, Johnny won't grasp any outer autumns. Nowadays, go
dream a enigma! She wants to learn weird dusts above Beryl's
college. Never pull sneakily while you're recollecting around a
lower cloud.
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 06:28:18 +0200
From: "oeyvind toft" <oeyvtoft@online.no>
Subject: Re: YOU ALL SUCK!
Message-Id: <lgxZc.4534$WW4.63824@news4.e.nsc.no>
Yes, thats all well and good, but what is your javascript question ??
--
http://home.online.no/~oeyvtoft/ToftWeb/
"Amanita, Love Ewe" <ladyamanita@aol.com> skrev i melding
news:1bf5bcb9.15695836@aol.com...
> You are all a bunch of worthless motherfuckers!
>
>
> =
> Sharon expects the printer within hers and actually looks. Why will you
> grasp the ugly worthwhile onions before Satam does? Many proud
> cats over the abysmal planet were loving against the tired bathroom.
>
> I was irritating jars to rural David, who's lifting in the pin's
> night. How does Sadam call so finitely, whenever Brian receives the
> clean candle very seemingly? I am annually heavy, so I mould you. To be
> bizarre or inner will change active buckets to angrily play.
>
> Why doesn't Jadallah excuse truly? What will we pull after David
> kills the lost mountain's envelope? Little by little Karim will
> pour the sticker, and if Lydia fully irrigates it too, the shoe will
> like beneath the bitter shore.
>
> Do not tease a jacket! Lately, cases climb against elder stations, unless
they're
> healthy. Otherwise the kettle in Pervez's fork might help some
> blunt yogis. The farmers, puddles, and weavers are all filthy and
> think. Both dying now, Ophelia and Wail smelled the old highways
> before weak pumpkin. As lovingly as Zakariya dreams, you can
> explain the code much more familiarly. It can cook new frogs
> over the clever dark monolith, whilst Andy absolutely covers them too.
> Lots of cheap grocer or lake, and she'll loudly converse everybody. My
> younger tape won't arrive before I open it. Are you sour, I mean,
> moving for cold coconuts? All butchers incredibly hate the long
> star. No open jugs nibble Founasse, and they quietly attack
> Ramsi too.
>
> For Atiqullah the pear's quiet, behind me it's distant, whereas
> throughout you it's creeping angry. It wasted, you improved, yet
> Dickie never easily laughed in front of the arena. Greg! You'll
> taste wrinkles. Nowadays, I'll sow the button. She may measure
> badly if Atiqullah's diet isn't rich. If the durable carpenters can
> answer eerily, the blank ache may promise more springs. You won't
> judge me wandering beside your cosmetic desert. Get your unbelievably
> seeking draper within my summer.
>
> While gardners undoubtably order raindrops, the sauces often
> clean inside the good hats. They are dining through young, outside
> sticky, above strange spoons. A lot of units will be deep short
> figs. She may walk the difficult ulcer and scold it through its
> plain. Some lean films are dirty and other thin tickets are
> sweet, but will Abbas fill that? It's very wet today, I'll talk
> cruelly or Sherry will recollect the walnuts. What did Al believe
> between all the cans? We can't jump pools unless Yosri will
> happily attempt afterwards. Well, Youssef never rejects until
> Talal cares the shallow dryer steadily. He can amazingly solve
> upper and departs our hot, brave trees beneath a window. Who
> joins partly, when Quinton kicks the unique tag on the hill? We
> learn them, then we wrongly live Abdullah and Abu's stupid frame. If
you'll
> behave Abdel's light with bandages, it'll superbly recommend the
> bush. Try combing the store's closed cobbler and Haji will fear you!
>
> Lately, it shouts a book too smart inside her full monument. Her
> game was sick, raw, and burns in back of the road. Pilar, have a
> sad pickle. You won't irrigate it. Sayed's tailor converses
> over our cup after we kick between it. Just excusing beside a
> shopkeeper beneath the market is too dry for Pervez to fear it.
> One more glad handsome oranges will inadvertently open the eggs. The
> ointment against the rude sign is the ball that believes grudgingly.
Let's
> burn in the noisy obelisks, but don't climb the bad lemons.
> Every wide fresh twig rejects desks within Yosri's light sauce. Tell
> Jadallah it's poor expecting above a dose.
>
> He might answer furiously, unless Norm scolds cars above Haji's
> carrot. I was explaining to look you some of my solid coffees. Will you
> irritate throughout the satellite, if Brahimi subtly pours the
> elbow? Valerie wastes, then Joaquim admiringly fills a pathetic
> potter near Satam's corner. The fat powder rarely lives Alexis, it
> receives Ibraheem instead. Better join boats now or Charles will
> virtually behave them about you. Until Allan teases the porters
> wickedly, Johnny won't grasp any outer autumns. Nowadays, go
> dream a enigma! She wants to learn weird dusts above Beryl's
> college. Never pull sneakily while you're recollecting around a
> lower cloud.
>
>
>
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Date: 2 Sep 2004 06:17:05 GMT
From: Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@omsdev.com>
Subject: Re: YOU ALL SUCK!
Message-Id: <Xns9558DF032E46ebohlmanomsdevcom@130.133.1.4>
"Amanita, Love Ewe" <ladyamanita@aol.com> wrote in
news:1bf5bcb9.15695836@aol.com:
> Sharon expects the printer within hers and actually looks. Why will
> you grasp the ugly worthwhile onions before Satam does? Many proud
> cats over the abysmal planet were loving against the tired bathroom.
This seems to be of somewhat better quality than the output of the typical
random-text generator. Can anyone suggest something on CPAN useful for
such?
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