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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 6934 Volume: 10

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Mon Aug 30 14:11:23 2004

Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 11:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest           Mon, 30 Aug 2004     Volume: 10 Number: 6934

Today's topics:
        Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@hiwaay.net>
        two's compliment? <bigal187.invalid@adexec.com>
    Re: Xah Lee's Unixism <davids@webmaster.com>
    Re: Xah Lee's Unixism <albalmer@att.net>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:59:58 -0000
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@hiwaay.net>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <10j6cmu5lb2u678@corp.supernews.com>

Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 23 Aug 2004 14:21:13 GMT and ending at
30 Aug 2004 13:51:48 GMT.

Notes
=====

    - A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
      does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
    - All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
      considered to be the author's signature.
    - The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
      in determining the "real" email address and name.
    - Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
      volume to the total body volume.
    - Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
      <URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
    - Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
    - Copyright (c) 2004 Greg Bacon.
      Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
      alteration is not permitted.  Redistribution and/or use for any
      commercial purpose is prohibited.

Excluded Posters
================

perlfaq-suggestions\@(?:.*\.)?perl\.com
faq\@(?:.*\.)?denver\.pm\.org
comdog\@panix\.com

Totals
======

Posters:  197
Articles: 626 (190 with cutlined signatures)
Threads:  111
Volume generated: 1289.3 kb
    - headers:    577.9 kb (10,458 lines)
    - bodies:     686.0 kb (21,366 lines)
    - original:   383.0 kb (12,999 lines)
    - signatures: 24.9 kb (550 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.558

Averages
========

Posts per poster: 3.2
    median: 1 post
    mode:   1 post - 103 posters
    s:      5.6 posts
Posts per thread: 5.6
    median: 3 posts
    mode:   1 post - 29 threads
    s:      8.9 posts
Message size: 2109.1 bytes
    - header:     945.3 bytes (16.7 lines)
    - body:       1122.2 bytes (34.1 lines)
    - original:   626.5 bytes (20.8 lines)
    - signature:  40.7 bytes (0.9 lines)

Top 20 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================

         (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Posts  Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Address
-----  --------------------------  -------

   48   110.2 ( 36.5/ 73.7/ 31.3)  Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
   32    53.9 ( 26.8/ 25.0/ 10.2)  Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
   30    63.6 ( 34.2/ 29.4/ 14.1)  Brian McCauley <nobull@mail.com>
   22    36.1 ( 18.0/ 18.0/ 13.1)  Tony McGuire <tony@paradoxcommunity.com>
   21    40.4 ( 19.4/ 20.2/ 15.0)  zebee@zip.com.au
   20    33.6 ( 21.0/ 12.6/  7.7)  Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
   15    26.4 ( 14.1/ 12.2/  7.3)  "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
   15    26.2 ( 13.6/ 10.6/  5.7)  Tore Aursand <tore@aursand.no>
   13    30.3 ( 12.1/ 18.2/ 10.7)  "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
   13    30.5 (  9.1/ 18.4/  8.2)  tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
   12    20.4 (  8.2/ 10.7/  5.1)  ctcgag@hotmail.com
   11    14.4 (  7.9/  6.5/  4.6)  Leif Wessman <leifwessman@hotmail.com>
   11    22.5 ( 10.1/  9.9/  3.3)  Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
   11    19.3 (  8.5/ 10.7/  5.0)  "David K. Wall" <dwall@fastmail.fm>
    9    16.3 (  9.4/  6.6/  2.9)  "John W. Krahn" <krahnj@telus.net>
    7    13.3 (  5.2/  8.1/  5.2)  Sara <genericax@hotmail.com>
    7    13.6 (  5.0/  8.6/  2.9)  $_@_.%_
    7    12.6 (  7.3/  5.3/  2.4)  Arne =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6deke?= <cpyfykf02@sneakemail.com>
    6     9.5 (  5.1/  2.8/  1.2)  John Bokma <postmaster@castleamber.com>
    5    11.2 (  5.3/  4.8/  1.6)  Pascal Bourguignon <spam@mouse-potato.com>

These posters accounted for 50.3% of all articles.

Top 20 Posters by Number of Followups
=====================================

             (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Followups  Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Address
---------  --------------------------  -------

       48   110.2 ( 36.5/ 73.7/ 31.3)  Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
       32    53.9 ( 26.8/ 25.0/ 10.2)  Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
       30    63.6 ( 34.2/ 29.4/ 14.1)  Brian McCauley <nobull@mail.com>
       20    33.6 ( 21.0/ 12.6/  7.7)  Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
       19    36.1 ( 18.0/ 18.0/ 13.1)  Tony McGuire <tony@paradoxcommunity.com>
       18    40.4 ( 19.4/ 20.2/ 15.0)  zebee@zip.com.au
       15    26.2 ( 13.6/ 10.6/  5.7)  Tore Aursand <tore@aursand.no>
       15    26.4 ( 14.1/ 12.2/  7.3)  "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
       13    30.3 ( 12.1/ 18.2/ 10.7)  "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
       13    30.5 (  9.1/ 18.4/  8.2)  tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
       12    20.4 (  8.2/ 10.7/  5.1)  ctcgag@hotmail.com
       11    22.5 ( 10.1/  9.9/  3.3)  Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
       11    19.3 (  8.5/ 10.7/  5.0)  "David K. Wall" <dwall@fastmail.fm>
        9    16.3 (  9.4/  6.6/  2.9)  "John W. Krahn" <krahnj@telus.net>
        6    12.6 (  7.3/  5.3/  2.4)  Arne =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=F6deke?= <cpyfykf02@sneakemail.com>
        6    14.4 (  7.9/  6.5/  4.6)  Leif Wessman <leifwessman@hotmail.com>
        6     9.5 (  5.1/  2.8/  1.2)  John Bokma <postmaster@castleamber.com>
        6    13.3 (  5.2/  8.1/  5.2)  Sara <genericax@hotmail.com>
        6    13.6 (  5.0/  8.6/  2.9)  $_@_.%_
        5    14.2 (  5.3/  8.1/  8.0)  abigail@abigail.nl

These posters accounted for 55.7% of all followups.

Top 20 Posters by Volume
========================

  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Address
--------------------------  -----  -------

 110.2 ( 36.5/ 73.7/ 31.3)     48  Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
  63.6 ( 34.2/ 29.4/ 14.1)     30  Brian McCauley <nobull@mail.com>
  53.9 ( 26.8/ 25.0/ 10.2)     32  Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
  40.4 ( 19.4/ 20.2/ 15.0)     21  zebee@zip.com.au
  36.1 ( 18.0/ 18.0/ 13.1)     22  Tony McGuire <tony@paradoxcommunity.com>
  33.6 ( 21.0/ 12.6/  7.7)     20  Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
  30.5 (  9.1/ 18.4/  8.2)     13  tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
  30.3 ( 12.1/ 18.2/ 10.7)     13  "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
  26.4 ( 14.1/ 12.2/  7.3)     15  "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
  26.2 ( 13.6/ 10.6/  5.7)     15  Tore Aursand <tore@aursand.no>
  22.5 ( 10.1/  9.9/  3.3)     11  Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
  20.4 (  8.2/ 10.7/  5.1)     12  ctcgag@hotmail.com
  20.4 (  3.0/ 17.4/  7.0)      4  "Scott  Gilpin" <sgilpin@gmail.com>
  19.6 (  4.5/ 15.1/ 13.5)      4  Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com>
  19.3 (  8.5/ 10.7/  5.0)     11  "David K. Wall" <dwall@fastmail.fm>
  19.2 (  4.9/ 14.3/  9.6)      5  Joe Davison <haltingNOSPAM@comcast.net>
  18.7 (  2.2/ 16.4/ 16.3)      2  tadmc@augustmail.com
  16.3 (  9.4/  6.6/  2.9)      9  "John W. Krahn" <krahnj@telus.net>
  15.9 (  0.8/ 15.1/  1.5)      1  vvosen@cpinternet.com
  14.4 (  7.9/  6.5/  4.6)     11  Leif Wessman <leifwessman@hotmail.com>

These posters accounted for 49.5% of the total volume.

Top 14 Posters by Volume of Original Content (min. ten posts)
=============================================================

        (kb)
Posts   orig  Address
-----  -----  -------

   48   31.3  Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
   21   15.0  zebee@zip.com.au
   30   14.1  Brian McCauley <nobull@mail.com>
   22   13.1  Tony McGuire <tony@paradoxcommunity.com>
   13   10.7  "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
   32   10.2  Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
   13    8.2  tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
   20    7.7  Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
   15    7.3  "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
   15    5.7  Tore Aursand <tore@aursand.no>
   12    5.1  ctcgag@hotmail.com
   11    5.0  "David K. Wall" <dwall@fastmail.fm>
   11    4.6  Leif Wessman <leifwessman@hotmail.com>
   11    3.3  Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>

These posters accounted for 36.9% of the original volume.

Top 14 Posters by OCR (minimum of ten posts)
============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.743  ( 15.0 / 20.2)     21  zebee@zip.com.au
0.725  ( 13.1 / 18.0)     22  Tony McGuire <tony@paradoxcommunity.com>
0.710  (  4.6 /  6.5)     11  Leif Wessman <leifwessman@hotmail.com>
0.614  (  7.7 / 12.6)     20  Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
0.593  (  7.3 / 12.2)     15  "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
0.589  ( 10.7 / 18.2)     13  "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
0.538  (  5.7 / 10.6)     15  Tore Aursand <tore@aursand.no>
0.480  ( 14.1 / 29.4)     30  Brian McCauley <nobull@mail.com>
0.477  (  5.1 / 10.7)     12  ctcgag@hotmail.com
0.468  (  5.0 / 10.7)     11  "David K. Wall" <dwall@fastmail.fm>
0.445  (  8.2 / 18.4)     13  tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
0.426  ( 31.3 / 73.7)     48  Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
0.407  ( 10.2 / 25.0)     32  Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
0.335  (  3.3 /  9.9)     11  Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>

Bottom 14 Posters by OCR (minimum of ten posts)
===============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.743  ( 15.0 / 20.2)     21  zebee@zip.com.au
0.725  ( 13.1 / 18.0)     22  Tony McGuire <tony@paradoxcommunity.com>
0.710  (  4.6 /  6.5)     11  Leif Wessman <leifwessman@hotmail.com>
0.614  (  7.7 / 12.6)     20  Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
0.593  (  7.3 / 12.2)     15  "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
0.589  ( 10.7 / 18.2)     13  "Paul Lalli" <mritty@gmail.com>
0.538  (  5.7 / 10.6)     15  Tore Aursand <tore@aursand.no>
0.480  ( 14.1 / 29.4)     30  Brian McCauley <nobull@mail.com>
0.477  (  5.1 / 10.7)     12  ctcgag@hotmail.com
0.468  (  5.0 / 10.7)     11  "David K. Wall" <dwall@fastmail.fm>
0.445  (  8.2 / 18.4)     13  tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
0.426  ( 31.3 / 73.7)     48  Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
0.407  ( 10.2 / 25.0)     32  Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
0.335  (  3.3 /  9.9)     11  Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>

14 posters (7%) had at least ten posts.

Top 20 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================

Posts  Subject
-----  -------

   65  Larry Wall & Cults
   35  Execute Windows program from Perl script (??)
   26  Parsing FileName for upload
   24  performance surprise -- why?
   21  using the result of a variable regular expression
   19  -s vs du - different results
   18  split question
   16  How to find out if a string is in uppercase only
   16  perl - data structure build to transpose data
   16  Xah Lee's Unixism
   16  creating anonymous subroutines at runtime
   15  how many days ago is 2003-07-20 ?
   13  Resizing JPG images with Perl?
   11  HTML::Parser
   10  convertinga directory path into a hash
   10  Performance Improvement of complex data structure (hash of hashes of hashes)
   10  Can this code be better?
   10  How to randomize foreach
    9  Perl, POST, and Redirect, CGI.pm
    9  get variables from another file

These threads accounted for 58.9% of all articles.

Top 20 Threads by Volume
========================

  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Subject
--------------------------  -----  -------

 115.5 ( 72.0/ 39.0/ 18.8)     65  Larry Wall & Cults
  72.6 ( 34.3/ 37.3/ 24.7)     35  Execute Windows program from Perl script (??)
  63.5 ( 22.8/ 39.2/ 24.0)     24  performance surprise -- why?
  45.3 ( 23.8/ 20.4/ 12.4)     26  Parsing FileName for upload
  44.0 ( 14.2/ 29.5/ 14.8)     16  perl - data structure build to transpose data
  43.5 ( 18.6/ 24.5/ 12.0)     21  using the result of a variable regular expression
  39.5 ( 17.7/ 20.3/  9.4)     19  -s vs du - different results
  38.4 (  7.1/ 30.9/ 12.8)     10  Performance Improvement of complex data structure (hash of hashes of hashes)
  34.9 ( 18.8/ 14.6/  5.2)     16  Xah Lee's Unixism
  32.2 ( 12.5/ 19.3/  7.1)     15  how many days ago is 2003-07-20 ?
  29.9 ( 17.4/ 12.2/  5.1)     16  creating anonymous subroutines at runtime
  28.7 ( 15.5/ 12.0/  5.5)     18  split question
  24.8 (  9.2/ 14.6/  9.6)     11  HTML::Parser
  24.2 ( 14.2/  9.5/  5.1)     16  How to find out if a string is in uppercase only
  23.1 ( 10.5/ 12.6/  6.4)     10  Can this code be better?
  22.9 ( 14.1/  8.2/  5.1)     13  Resizing JPG images with Perl?
  21.3 (  6.0/ 15.0/  7.6)      7  Object Oriented programs, Perl and others
  21.1 (  9.4/ 11.3/  4.7)     10  How to randomize foreach
  18.7 (  8.7/  9.9/  3.9)      9  get variables from another file
  18.5 (  8.6/  8.7/  3.6)     10  convertinga directory path into a hash

These threads accounted for 59.1% of the total volume.

Top 18 Threads by OCR (minimum of ten posts)
============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Subject
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.662  ( 24.7/  37.3)     35  Execute Windows program from Perl script (??)
0.656  (  9.6/  14.6)     11  HTML::Parser
0.622  (  5.1/   8.2)     13  Resizing JPG images with Perl?
0.612  ( 24.0/  39.2)     24  performance surprise -- why?
0.606  ( 12.4/  20.4)     26  Parsing FileName for upload
0.541  (  5.1/   9.5)     16  How to find out if a string is in uppercase only
0.509  (  6.4/  12.6)     10  Can this code be better?
0.501  ( 14.8/  29.5)     16  perl - data structure build to transpose data
0.489  ( 12.0/  24.5)     21  using the result of a variable regular expression
0.482  ( 18.8/  39.0)     65  Larry Wall & Cults
0.465  (  9.4/  20.3)     19  -s vs du - different results
0.462  (  5.5/  12.0)     18  split question
0.420  (  5.1/  12.2)     16  creating anonymous subroutines at runtime
0.416  (  4.7/  11.3)     10  How to randomize foreach
0.414  ( 12.8/  30.9)     10  Performance Improvement of complex data structure (hash of hashes of hashes)
0.412  (  3.6/   8.7)     10  convertinga directory path into a hash
0.367  (  7.1/  19.3)     15  how many days ago is 2003-07-20 ?
0.358  (  5.2/  14.6)     16  Xah Lee's Unixism

Bottom 18 Threads by OCR (minimum of ten posts)
===============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Subject
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.662  ( 24.7 / 37.3)     35  Execute Windows program from Perl script (??)
0.656  (  9.6 / 14.6)     11  HTML::Parser
0.622  (  5.1 /  8.2)     13  Resizing JPG images with Perl?
0.612  ( 24.0 / 39.2)     24  performance surprise -- why?
0.606  ( 12.4 / 20.4)     26  Parsing FileName for upload
0.541  (  5.1 /  9.5)     16  How to find out if a string is in uppercase only
0.509  (  6.4 / 12.6)     10  Can this code be better?
0.501  ( 14.8 / 29.5)     16  perl - data structure build to transpose data
0.489  ( 12.0 / 24.5)     21  using the result of a variable regular expression
0.482  ( 18.8 / 39.0)     65  Larry Wall & Cults
0.465  (  9.4 / 20.3)     19  -s vs du - different results
0.462  (  5.5 / 12.0)     18  split question
0.420  (  5.1 / 12.2)     16  creating anonymous subroutines at runtime
0.416  (  4.7 / 11.3)     10  How to randomize foreach
0.414  ( 12.8 / 30.9)     10  Performance Improvement of complex data structure (hash of hashes of hashes)
0.412  (  3.6 /  8.7)     10  convertinga directory path into a hash
0.367  (  7.1 / 19.3)     15  how many days ago is 2003-07-20 ?
0.358  (  5.2 / 14.6)     16  Xah Lee's Unixism

18 threads (16%) had at least ten posts.

Top 20 Targets for Crossposts
=============================

Articles  Newsgroup
--------  ---------

      79  alt.folklore.computers
      79  comp.unix.programmer
      79  comp.lang.python
      79  comp.lang.lisp
       5  comp.databases.oracle.misc
       3  alt.comp.software.newsreaders.newsbin
       3  alt.comp.software.newsreaders
       2  comp.lang.basic.visual.database
       2  comp.lang.java.api
       2  comp.databases.oracle.server
       2  comp.os.os2.programmer.porting
       2  comp.lang.javascript
       2  comp.os.os2.misc
       1  news.answers
       1  comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc
       1  comp.lang.perl.moderated
       1  alt.disasters.misc
       1  sci.astro
       1  comp.answers
       1  sci.geo.earthquakes

Top 20 Crossposters
===================

Articles  Address
--------  -------

      20  Pascal Bourguignon <spam@mouse-potato.com>
      20  jmfbahciv@aol.com
      12  norman werner <norman.werner@student.uni-magdeburg.de>
      12  Otto Wyss <otto.wyss@orpatec.ch>
      12  Peter Hansen <peter@engcorp.com>
      12  Rich Teer <rich.teer@rite-group.com>
       8  Tor Iver Wilhelmsen <tor.iver.wilhelmsen@broadpark.no>
       8  Reynir Stefánsson <reynirhs@mi.is>
       8  Pete Fenelon <pete@fenelon.com>
       8  Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com>
       8  Roger Redford <dba_222@yahoo.com>
       8  George Neuner <gneuner2/@comcast.net>
       8  albalmer@spamcop.net
       8  "Paul F. Dietz" <dietz@dls.net>
       8  Dr. Richard E. Hawkins <hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu>
       8  Brian.Inglis@SystematicSW.ab.ca
       8  "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
       8  tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
       8  "Michiel Borkent" <borkent@cs.utwente.nl>
       8  Rob Warnock <rpw3@rpw3.org>


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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:43:29 -0700
From: "187" <bigal187.invalid@adexec.com>
Subject: two's compliment?
Message-Id: <2ph7a3Fkssj2U1@uni-berlin.de>

I'm hoping someone can clear up this little confusion here regarding
binary not's.

     print unpack('H128', pack('N', ~4294966272));

This gives: 000003ff

Why is it on my TI86 I get FFFFFFFF000003FF.  This seems more
(Commands: (not 4294966272)->Hex )

Which is correct? It seems more correct to me that the remaining bits be
flipped from the not operation (0 -> 1), but why do c/c++/perl/etc not
do this?




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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:13:55 -0700
From: "David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com>
Subject: Re: Xah Lee's Unixism
Message-Id: <cgtv0s$sun$1@nntp.webmaster.com>


"Ian Wilson" <scobloke2@infotop.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:cgq7ki$eg1$1@hercules.btinternet.com...

>>>>    I don't follow you at all. I think you'll find the most useful,
>>>>meaningful complaints about, say, a Ford Explorer from the people who
>>>>drive one every day.

>>>And if they continue to drive one everyday, perhaps you would conclude
>>>that their complaints are insincere.

>>     That's a load of crap.

> You're both right but ...
>
> Xah Lee: "I'm starting my own cult to exterminate morons on
> this earth.  Two things are on the top of my agenda: Unixism and Perl."
>
> Pascal Bourguignon: <Xah Lee's website runs on Linux, a Unix-like OS>
>
> Is more like
>
> Joe Blow: I'm going to exterminate all morons who drive a Ford Explorer.
>
> Fred Bloggs: But Joe, you drive a Ford Explorer!

    The you're missing is that 'unixism' has nothing to do with *using* 
UNIX.

> Rather than
>
> Joe Blow: Ford Explorers are a little bit expensive to service and the 
> doors squeak after a couple of years.
>
> Fred Bloggs: Thanks for the tip Joe, I see you drive one, so you should 
> know.

    The problem with 'unixism' is its affect on UNIX, and it would be 
logical that only those people who use UNIXes are affected by 'unixism' and 
concerned about it.

    DS




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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 10:15:42 -0700
From: Alan Balmer <albalmer@att.net>
Subject: Re: Xah Lee's Unixism
Message-Id: <a3o6j0lbcje3rn7hqu9l4hdf9n5b7sjn4l@4ax.com>

On 28 Aug 2004 03:41:22 +0200, Pascal Bourguignon
<spam@mouse-potato.com> wrote:

>>     I don't follow you at all. I think you'll find the most useful, 
>> meaningful complaints about, say, a Ford Explorer from the people who drive 
>> one every day.
>
>I'd expect to get these complaints indeed from people who drove it,
>but I'd be puzzled if they'd continued to drive it every day.

Not me. I'd just assume that they couldn't afford to switch vehicles
whenever they had a complaint.

-- 
Al Balmer
Balmer Consulting
removebalmerconsultingthis@att.net


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