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Perl-Users Digest           Fri, 9 Jul 2004     Volume: 10 Number: 6782

Today's topics:
         Re: Secure Database Systems <ron@savage.net.au>
    Re: hash as argument <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
    Re: hash as argument <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
    Re: hash as argument <ahamm@mail.com>
    Re: hash as argument <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
    Re: hash as argument <daedalus@videotron.ca>
    Re: hash as argument (Anno Siegel)
    Re: Looping through hash for match and replacement stri <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
    Re: Looping through hash for match and replacement stri (Anno Siegel)
    Re: Perl newbie please help <krahnj@acm.org>
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@augustmail.com
        Regexp substitution problem - suggestions? <jhalbrook@bjc.org>
    Re: Regexp substitution problem - suggestions? <bernard.el-haginDODGE_THIS@lido-tech.net>
    Re: What does this do? <abigail@abigail.nl>
    Re: What does this do? (Peter J. Acklam)
    Re: What does this do? <vek@station02.ohout.pharmapartners.nl>
    Re: What does this do? <pinyaj@rpi.edu>
        XSLT Transformation <axel@strube-zettler.de>
    Re: XSLT Transformation <regner@dievision.de>
    Re: XSLT Transformation <vetro@online.no>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 18:25:39 +1000
From:     Ron Savage <ron@savage.net.au>
Subject:  Re: Secure Database Systems
Message-Id: <200479182539.091064@ron>

On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 16:41:37 +1000, Sarah Tanembaum wrote:

Hi Sarah

Frankly, I'd skip the db route at this time and go to=
 http://www.treepad.com/

The business version has encryption built in. There is a freeware version=
 (TreePad Lite) to tryout.
-- 
Cheers
Ron Savage, ron@savage.net.au on 9/07/2004
http://savage.net.au/index.html



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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:11:50 GMT
From: Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
Subject: Re: hash as argument
Message-Id: <WyrHc.52541$XM6.41600@attbi_s53>

Sherm Pendley wrote:
> And don't use double-quotes on strings unless it's necessary.

Has Larry Wall made a statement on this?

Using double quotes in a situation where single quotes could also
be used is not a programming error.  It is a matter of style.
	-Joe


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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 03:39:48 -0400
From: Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Subject: Re: hash as argument
Message-Id: <efadnTtZu6BY1nPd4p2dnA@adelphia.com>

Joe Smith wrote:

> Has Larry Wall made a statement on this?

I think his statement that "there's more than one way to do it" is relevant.
Quite a shame so many folks have forgotten it.

> It is a matter of style. 

I agree, but there are a few regulars here who view it as a matter of
religion. Minimizing the use of double-quotes, at least when posting code
here, helps reduce the incessant whining about it.

I'd fight the good fight if it mattered, but in this case there's nothing to
be gained by arguing the point.

sherm--

-- 
Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org


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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 18:00:56 +1000
From: "Andrew Hamm" <ahamm@mail.com>
Subject: Re: hash as argument
Message-Id: <2l71m2F9i40sU1@uni-berlin.de>

Sherm Pendley wrote:
> Joe Smith wrote:
>
>> Has Larry Wall made a statement on this?
>
> I think his statement that "there's more than one way to do it" is
> relevant. Quite a shame so many folks have forgotten it.
>
>> It is a matter of style.
>
> I agree, but there are a few regulars here who view it as a matter of
> religion. Minimizing the use of double-quotes, at least when posting
> code here, helps reduce the incessant whining about it.
>

I'm not changing - I hate it when I spend 15 minutes looking for a bug only
to finally discover I've tried to add $thingy inside single quotes. Too he11
with that...




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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 05:40:13 -0400
From: Sherm Pendley <spamtrap@dot-app.org>
Subject: Re: hash as argument
Message-Id: <uY-dnckOfONg-nPdRVn_iw@adelphia.com>

Andrew Hamm wrote:

> I'm not changing

So now someone wants to debate whether it's a subject worth arguing about.
Oy! You just can't win with this group...

sherm--

-- 
Cocoa programming in Perl: http://camelbones.sourceforge.net
Hire me! My resume: http://www.dot-app.org


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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:07:16 -0400
From: "Daedalus" <daedalus@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: hash as argument
Message-Id: <qRvHc.40515$_p5.872253@wagner.videotron.net>

> So now someone wants to debate whether it's a subject worth arguing about.
> Oy! You just can't win with this group...


Arguing on programming habits and style is pretty trivial... in both
direction.
We could say that uses of double-quotes should only be prefered when their
behavior is needed, but we could also say that uses of single-quote should
only be prefered when their behavior is needed. Double-quotes make it easier
to add variables or backslash-escapes, while single-quote make it clearer
that there's no interpolation. To me their uses are a matter of choice. But
saying "misuse of double-quotes" or ask to "fix" the thing... Do it because
the majority is doing it, thats not a rule of perl.
Pointing to the fact that many people would not even look at the code
because they don't like the "prefer double-quote" style is fine, it's good
to know, but asking someone to fix something that is not broken is another.
It's not like the thing is an ancien obscur use like using $mains'var
instead of $main::var. "If it ain't broke don't fix it".

It's an opinion, you people are free to like it or not, but it's mine and
I'm free to have it.
DAE




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Date: 9 Jul 2004 12:43:27 GMT
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Re: hash as argument
Message-Id: <ccm3tf$9ra$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>

Daedalus <daedalus@videotron.ca> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> > So now someone wants to debate whether it's a subject worth arguing about.
> > Oy! You just can't win with this group...
> 
> 
> Arguing on programming habits and style is pretty trivial... in both
> direction.
> We could say that uses of double-quotes should only be prefered when their
> behavior is needed, but we could also say that uses of single-quote should
> only be prefered when their behavior is needed. Double-quotes make it easier
> to add variables or backslash-escapes, while single-quote make it clearer
> that there's no interpolation. To me their uses are a matter of choice. But
> saying "misuse of double-quotes" or ask to "fix" the thing... Do it because
> the majority is doing it, thats not a rule of perl.

It is a more general rule of human interaction.  It is often useful
to do things in one, agreed-upon way, even if there is no rational
reason why that particular way should be preferred.  Traffic regulations
(beginning with the side of the road you drive on) are often quite
arbitrary, but the advantages of adhering to them are obvious.

Similarly, for a programming community, there are advantages in having
conventional preferences for one style over another when technically
two (or more) ways would give the same result.  By using the conventional
style, the author tells the reader "Nothing to see here, move along...".
A deviation from the standard tells the reader to look for the reason.
That makes such code a lot easier to read.

Thus, a set of stylistic conventions gives a language a dimension of
expressiveness it wouldn't have without it.  That is a Good Thing.
The preference of '' over "" and of sub() over &sub belong in this
category.

> Pointing to the fact that many people would not even look at the code
> because they don't like the "prefer double-quote" style is fine, it's good
> to know, but asking someone to fix something that is not broken is another.
> It's not like the thing is an ancien obscur use like using $mains'var
> instead of $main::var. "If it ain't broke don't fix it".

It's not about "correct" or "broken", it's about clarity.

Anno


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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 07:48:59 GMT
From: Joe Smith <Joe.Smith@inwap.com>
Subject: Re: Looping through hash for match and replacement strings
Message-Id: <L5sHc.47252$%_6.8123@attbi_s01>

Driver wrote:

> With the included code, I'm trying to:
> 
> -- parse a mif file
> -- match the left side string of the %op hash (index) with occurances of
> that string in the mif file
> -- replace the matched string with the string on the right side of the %op
> hash (keys)

The program you posted has a much different flow of logic.
   repeat 37 times {
      open "anyfile.mif" for reading and "anyfile.mif.new" for writing.
      read entire file, make at most one substitution per line, write line out.
   }

It is very inefficient to read the input file 37 times.
Since the output file is clobbered each time through the loop, any
previous substitutions will be thrown away; only the last set of
substitutions end up in the final output file.

A better approach would be to build a complex search string and substitute
from the hash using a single pass through the input file.

   $search = join '|',keys %op;
   while(<>) {
     s/($search)/$op{$1}/g;
     print;
   }


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Date: 9 Jul 2004 11:35:34 GMT
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Re: Looping through hash for match and replacement strings
Message-Id: <cclvu6$77m$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>

Joe Smith  <Joe.Smith@inwap.com> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> Driver wrote:
> 
> > With the included code, I'm trying to:
> > 
> > -- parse a mif file
> > -- match the left side string of the %op hash (index) with occurances of
> > that string in the mif file
> > -- replace the matched string with the string on the right side of the %op
> > hash (keys)
> 
> The program you posted has a much different flow of logic.
>    repeat 37 times {
>       open "anyfile.mif" for reading and "anyfile.mif.new" for writing.
>       read entire file, make at most one substitution per line, write line out.
>    }
> 
> It is very inefficient to read the input file 37 times.
> Since the output file is clobbered each time through the loop, any
> previous substitutions will be thrown away; only the last set of
> substitutions end up in the final output file.

Very true.  The program has more problems, such as the liberal use of
barewords, undeclared variables, and use of uninitialized values.
Most of these would have been caught by warnings and strict.

> A better approach would be to build a complex search string and substitute
> from the hash using a single pass through the input file.
> 
>    $search = join '|',keys %op;
>    while(<>) {
>      s/($search)/$op{$1}/g;
>      print;
>    }

In general this approach requires the keys to be sorted so that long
keys come before short ones.  Otherwise, if one key is a substring of
another, you may get spurious substitutions.  Also, in case a key
contains regex-specific characters, it is prudent to quotemeta the
keys.

     $search = join '|', map quotemeta,
         sort { length $b <=> length $a } keys %op;

With the given data, both of these operations are no-ops, but data
can change.

Anno


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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 10:36:12 GMT
From: "John W. Krahn" <krahnj@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Perl newbie please help
Message-Id: <40EE7505.67FCDE6C@acm.org>

Paul Lalli wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Jordy Keighan wrote:
> >
> >         @user_array = split(" ", $user_string);
> 
> Why are you doing this?  Why are you composing one large string, manually
> separating each field with spaces, and then using split to get an array
> back out?  Unless you're using $user_string later in unshown code (and if
> you are, feel free to ignore me here), conider changing this to:
> my @user_array;
> foreach my $key ($doc->getElementsByTagName('credentials')){
>    push @user_array, $key->getAttribute('name');
> }
> 
> >         print $user_array[0]; # VALUE OK prints bob!!!!
> 
> out of curiousity, does it really print *just* bob?  Or does the value
> perhaps have extra whitespace attached to either end?

It can't have any whitespace as the previous line removes all
whitespace.


John
-- 
use Perl;
program
fulfillment


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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 02:22:07 -0500
From: tadmc@augustmail.com
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.5 $)
Message-Id: <jsKdnZ7rGc4C2nPdRVn-ig@august.net>

Outline
   Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Must
       - Check the Perl Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
       - Check the other standard Perl docs (*.pod)
      Really Really Should
       - Lurk for a while before posting
       - Search a Usenet archive
      If You Like
       - Check Other Resources
   Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Is there a better place to ask your question?
       - Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
      How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
       - Carefully choose the contents of your Subject header
       - Use an effective followup style
       - Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
       - Ask perl to help you
       - Do not re-type Perl code
       - Provide enough information
       - Do not provide too much information
       - Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
      Social faux pas to avoid
       - Asking a Frequently Asked Question
       - Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
       - Asking for emailed answers
       - Beware of saying "doesn't work"
       - Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
      Be extra cautious when you get upset
       - Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
       - Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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        flaming sub-threads are not about any feature of Perl at all! They
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        have lurked for a bit, then you will know what is expected and won't
        make such posts in the first place.

        But if you get upset, wait a while before writing your followup. I
        recommend waiting at least 30 minutes.

    Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
        After you have written your followup, wait *another* 30 minutes
        before committing yourself by posting it. You cannot take it back
        once it has been said.

AUTHOR
    Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> and many others on the
    comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.



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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 07:14:46 -0500
From: "JK" <jhalbrook@bjc.org>
Subject: Regexp substitution problem - suggestions?
Message-Id: <10et31f4ecdopce@corp.supernews.com>

I need to search for all occurrences of mailto tags in a file, and hyperlink
them.

i.e.

mailto:jim@his-domain.com

to:

<a href="mailto:jim@his-domain.com">mailto:jim@his-domain.com</a>

I currently have been trying to use this code (excuse the coding, I'm a Perl
newbie):

####
        foreach (@lines) {
                if ($_ =~ /mailto/ig) {
                   if ($_ =~ /href=/ig) {
                   } else {
                       my $str = index($_,"mailto");
                       my $endstr = index($_," ",$str);
                       if ($endstr < 0) {
                           my $len = length($_) - $str;
                           $len++;
                       } else {
                           my $len = ($_ - $str);
                       }
                       my $parm1 = substr($_,$str,$len);
                       $_ =~ s/$parm1/<a href="$parm1">$parm1<\/a>/ig;    #
This is the problem line
                   }
                }
           }
####

When I display $parm1, I get the entire mailto tag, but when I display
the value of $_ I don't get the hyperlinked version that I want.  It is
unchanged.

I'm sure there's a much more efficient way to do this.  :-)

Joe





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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:28:45 +0200
From: "Bernard El-Hagin" <bernard.el-haginDODGE_THIS@lido-tech.net>
Subject: Re: Regexp substitution problem - suggestions?
Message-Id: <Xns952193A566965elhber1lidotechnet@62.89.127.66>

"JK" <jhalbrook@bjc.org> wrote:

> I need to search for all occurrences of mailto tags in a file, and
> hyperlink them.
> 
> i.e.
> 
> mailto:jim@his-domain.com
> 
> to:
> 
> <a href="mailto:jim@his-domain.com">mailto:jim@his-domain.com</a>
> 
> I currently have been trying to use this code (excuse the coding,
> I'm a Perl newbie):


As long as what's after "mailto" contains no whitespaces you can use:


   s/(mailto:\S+?)/<a href="$1">$1</a>/g;


-- 
Cheers,
Bernard


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Date: 09 Jul 2004 08:18:07 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.nl>
Subject: Re: What does this do?
Message-Id: <slrncesl5v.4g9.abigail@alexandra.abigail.nl>

gnari (gnari@simnet.is) wrote on MMMCMLXIV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:ccklsq$v2f$1@news.simnet.is>:
!!  "Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan" <pinyaj@rpi.edu> wrote in message
!!  news:Pine.SGI.3.96.1040708181456.48121A-100000@vcmr-64.server.rpi.edu...
!! >
!! > $|, as defined by the internal magic supporting it, is set to 0 when given
!! > a false value, and 1 when given ANY true value.
!!  
!!  in that case the $|++ does not even have the advantage
!!  of allowing us to 'localize' the value as in:
!!  
!!      # unknown $| state
!!      $|++;
!!      ... do stuff ...
!!      $|--;
!!  this will alway end by resetting $| to 0, even if it
!!  was originally 1
!!  
!!  on the other hand $|-- will always reverse the value.
!!  now I will have to find a use for that ...


But so will $| = !$|, which is a lot clearer (and work for regular
variables as well).


Abigail
-- 
CHECK {print "another "}
INIT  {print "Perl "   }
END   {print "Hacker\n"}
BEGIN {print "Just "   }


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Date: 09 Jul 2004 10:19:27 +0200
From: pjacklam@online.no (Peter J. Acklam)
Subject: Re: What does this do?
Message-Id: <u0whzj74.fsf@online.no>

Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan <pinyaj@rpi.edu> wrote:

> On 8 Jul 2004, Peter J. Acklam wrote:
> 
> >And the latter turns on buffering also in the extremely unlikely
> >event that $| should ever be -1, in which case $|++ would turn it
> >off.
> 
> Except that $| can't ever be -1 (unless you've done *| = \-1, in
> which case $|++ will throw a "Modification of read-only" error).

Darn, then someone has fooled me.  What I wrote above is virtually
a citation of something I read somewhere.  No big deal, though,
but now I wonder where I got it from.

Peter

-- 
#!/local/bin/perl5 -wp -*- mode: cperl; coding: iso-8859-1; -*-
# matlab comment stripper (strips comments from Matlab m-files)
s/^((?:(?:[])}\w.]'+|[^'%])+|'[^'\n]*(?:''[^'\n]*)*')*).*/$1/x;


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Date: 09 Jul 2004 10:30:20 GMT
From: Villy Kruse <vek@station02.ohout.pharmapartners.nl>
Subject: Re: What does this do?
Message-Id: <slrncesstr.mtr.vek@station02.ohout.pharmapartners.nl>

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:22:30 +0300,
    Eugene Mikheyev <Eugene.Mikheyev@kiev.cms.com.ua> wrote:


>> $|++;
>> I see that in code but my searches have come up with nothing.
> As $| is a boolean variable, I suspect the one who wrote this thought
> incrementing is faster than assigning, i.e. when $x is 0, $x++ is faster
> than $x = 1. Maybe I am wrong, this is just an assumption.
>

If you look at it logically: increment would be more expensive as you
first have to retreive the old value before incrementing it.  Assigning
1 to the variable don't need to do that.  But that is nano-optimization
which usualy is a waste of programmer time.


Villy


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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:13:50 -0400
From: Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan <pinyaj@rpi.edu>
Subject: Re: What does this do?
Message-Id: <Pine.SGI.3.96.1040709081317.52776A-100000@vcmr-64.server.rpi.edu>

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, gnari wrote:

>"Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan" <pinyaj@rpi.edu> wrote in message
>news:Pine.SGI.3.96.1040708181456.48121A-100000@vcmr-64.server.rpi.edu...
>>
>> $|, as defined by the internal magic supporting it, is set to 0 when given
>> a false value, and 1 when given ANY true value.
>
>in that case the $|++ does not even have the advantage
>of allowing us to 'localize' the value as in:
>
>    # unknown $| state
>    $|++;
>    ... do stuff ...
>    $|--;
>this will alway end by resetting $| to 0, even if it
>was originally 1

Luckily we have 'local' which does exactly what you want.

  # unknown $| state
  {
    local $| = 1;
    # ...
  }
  # $| is restored here

--
Jeff "japhy" Pinyan         %  How can we ever be the sold short or
RPI Acacia Brother #734     %  the cheated, we who for every service
RPI Corporation Secretary   %  have long ago been overpaid?
http://japhy.perlmonk.org/  %  
http://www.perlmonks.org/   %    -- Meister Eckhart




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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:28:07 +0200
From: Axel Strube-Zettler <axel@strube-zettler.de>
Subject: XSLT Transformation
Message-Id: <2l7a64F93m1bU1@uni-berlin.de>

Hi all,

how can I do a XSLT transformation on a XML File (XSLT Stylesheet) - 
just like Saxon does? What packages are exactly needed?

Thanks, Axel



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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:15:36 +0200
From: Tom Regner <regner@dievision.de>
Subject: Re: XSLT Transformation
Message-Id: <40ee7e58$0$5987$4d3ebbfe@news1.pop-hannover.net>

Axel Strube-Zettler wrote:
> how can I do a XSLT transformation on a XML File (XSLT Stylesheet) -
> just like Saxon does? What packages are exactly needed?

Jonathan Stowes XML::XSLT seems to fit, from the pod:

  use XML::XSLT;

  my $xslt = XML::XSLT->new ($xsl, warnings => 1);

  $xslt->transform ($xmlfile);
  print $xslt->toString;

CPAN:
http://search.cpan.org/~jstowe/XML-XSLT-0.48/lib/XML/XSLT.pm

kind regards,
Tom
-- 
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Telefon: (0511) 288791-0 | Telefax: (0511) 288791-99
http://www.dievision.de | mailto:regner@dievision.de


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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 13:15:44 +0200
From: "Vetle Roeim" <vetro@online.no>
Subject: Re: XSLT Transformation
Message-Id: <opsavawixf3hk3cf@quickfix.opera.com>

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:28:07 +0200, Axel Strube-Zettler  
<axel@strube-zettler.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> how can I do a XSLT transformation on a XML File (XSLT Stylesheet) -  
> just like Saxon does? What packages are exactly needed?

   XML::XSLT has been suggested. XML::LibXSLT is another module that can
   be used. It is a front-end to the Gnome XSLT library.

   <URL: http://search.cpan.org/~msergeant/XML-LibXSLT-1.57/LibXSLT.pm >


-- 
It's not a bug, it's the future.


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