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Today's topics:
Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <invalid-email@rochester.rr.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <tore@aursand.no>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <matthew.garrish@sympatico.ca>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <HelgiBriem_1@hotmail.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <ittyspam@yahoo.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <ittyspam@yahoo.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <mb@uq.net.au.invalid>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004 (Malcolm Dew-Jones)
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:50:27 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <D%FPb.18474$i4.5291@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
PERL SPEED TEST QUESTIONS
Posted by E.D.G. January 21, 2004
I just installed the ActiveState ActivePerl version 5.8.2.808 on my computer
(Windows) without encountering any problems. It actually took much
longer to download the installation program (about 12 Meg) than it took for
it to install itself.
I would like to run a speed test to see how fast Perl does calculations but
am not yet familiar with the command codes and have not yet found a listing
of them with the documentation which came with the program. So perhaps
someone can post some code examples here.
The routine I want to test written in Basic would look like this:
10 beep
20 for I = 1 to 100000
30 timetest = timetest + 1
40 next I
50 beep
If I want to run that as a DOS program in a text.pl program, what would the
code look like? The "Beep" lets you know when it starts and stops so that
you know how long it took to loop through the calculations.
Also, what would the code be for an html program. I know that the starting
and ending html commands would be:
<script language="PerlScript">
(commands)
</script>
Those speed tests will provide me with some idea regarding how fast Perl can
do calculations as compared with other programs such as Basic.
And finally, can anyone recommend a good source for a listing of Perl
commands? Perhaps there is one included with the ActivePerl documentation.
But as I said, I have not yet been able to locate it.
Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:12:59 GMT
From: Bob Walton <invalid-email@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <400F3F1D.8000804@rochester.rr.com>
edgrsprj wrote:
> PERL SPEED TEST QUESTIONS
>
> Posted by E.D.G. January 21, 2004
>
> I just installed the ActiveState ActivePerl version 5.8.2.808 on my computer
> (Windows) without encountering any problems. It actually took much
> longer to download the installation program (about 12 Meg) than it took for
> it to install itself.
>
> I would like to run a speed test to see how fast Perl does calculations but
> am not yet familiar with the command codes and have not yet found a listing
> of them with the documentation which came with the program. So perhaps
> someone can post some code examples here.
>
> The routine I want to test written in Basic would look like this:
>
> 10 beep
> 20 for I = 1 to 100000
> 30 timetest = timetest + 1
> 40 next I
> 50 beep
>
Well, something like:
perl -e "$t=time;$i++ for 1..1_000_000;print time-$t"
but that gives either a 0 or 1 on my system (and note the 1_000_000, not
100_000). Maybe 10_000_000 would challenge it? Oh, only 4 seconds.
And my system is wimpy.
You should probably
use Benchmark;
to do these sorts of things -- it has a better resolution timer and
generates nice reports.
> If I want to run that as a DOS program in a text.pl program, what would the
> code look like? The "Beep" lets you know when it starts and stops so that
> you know how long it took to loop through the calculations.
>
> Also, what would the code be for an html program. I know that the starting
> and ending html commands would be:
>
> <script language="PerlScript">
>
> (commands)
>
> </script>
The general code would be the same, but I don't know anything about
PerlScript.
>
> Those speed tests will provide me with some idea regarding how fast Perl can
> do calculations as compared with other programs such as Basic.
>
> And finally, can anyone recommend a good source for a listing of Perl
> commands? Perhaps there is one included with the ActivePerl documentation.
> But as I said, I have not yet been able to locate it.
Check out c:\perl\eg on your hard drive. Also, type at your command prompt:
perldoc perldoc
and read it. You will learn about perldoc -f, etc. And point your browser
to file:///c:/perl/html/index.html . And maybe http://learn.perl.org too.
Good luck.
...
--
Bob Walton
Email: http://bwalton.com/cgi-bin/emailbob.pl
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 21:16:23 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <slrnc0ug47.834.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> PERL SPEED TEST QUESTIONS
There is a Subject header on your post, no need to repeat the subject.
> Posted by E.D.G. January 21, 2004
There is a From header on your post, no need to repeat who the poster is.
There is a Date header on your post, no need to repeat the date.
> The routine I want to test written in Basic would look like this:
>
> 10 beep
> 20 for I = 1 to 100000
> 30 timetest = timetest + 1
> 40 next I
> 50 beep
>
> If I want to run that as a DOS program in a text.pl program, what would the
> code look like? The "Beep" lets you know when it starts and stops so that
> you know how long it took to loop through the calculations.
# untested
my $timetest;
my $start = time;
foreach my $i ( 1 .. 100_000 ) {
$timetest = $timetest + 1;
}
my $end = time;
print 'that took ', $end - $start, " seconds\n";
What you are wanting to do is called "benchmarking".
There is a module for helping with benchmarking:
perldoc Benchmark
> Also, what would the code be for an html program.
There is no such thing as an HTML program.
HTML is not a programming language.
HTML is a Markup Language (hence the last 2 letters in its name).
> And finally, can anyone recommend a good source for a listing of Perl
> commands?
I'm not too sure what you mean when you say "commands".
You can get a list of all of the functions in Perl with:
perldoc perlfunc
You can read up on all of the operators in Perl with:
perldoc perlop
You can read up on the syntax of Perl with:
perldoc perlsyn
etc...
You can get a list of what docs are available with
perldoc perl
perldoc perltoc
> Perhaps there is one included with the ActivePerl documentation.
> But as I said, I have not yet been able to locate it.
I can't help with that. I don't run Windows.
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:27:01 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <9qHPb.18588$q4.2346@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Thanks Bob.
"Bob Walton" <invalid-email@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:400F3F1D.8000804@rochester.rr.com...
> edgrsprj wrote:
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:35:37 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <dyHPb.18593$q4.17470@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Thanks Tad.
One of the reasons that I often include that type of formal posting
information in the text of the note is the fact that I am working with
professional and amateur researchers around the world who may know only
enough about the Internet to be able to access their e-mail. Or they might
speak English as a second language. And they get confused if you do not
keep things simple and well organized. With humor intended I have to say
that from years of experience I have found that there is often less trouble
if I go into extra detail in my first note in some series. The alternative
can be to be doomed to answering endless numbers of questions.
"Tad McClellan" <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnc0ug47.834.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com...
> edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 05:05:39 GMT
From: James Willmore <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <pan.2004.01.22.05.05.38.89398@remove.adelphia.net>
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:35:37 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
[Please don't top post - it's considered rude in this USENET group]
> One of the reasons that I often include that type of formal posting
> information in the text of the note is the fact that I am working with
> professional and amateur researchers around the world who may know only
> enough about the Internet to be able to access their e-mail. Or they might
> speak English as a second language. And they get confused if you do not
> keep things simple and well organized. With humor intended I have to say
> that from years of experience I have found that there is often less trouble
> if I go into extra detail in my first note in some series. The alternative
> can be to be doomed to answering endless numbers of questions.
Are you sending the first post out to people who are *not* reading this
group (meaning, as a "Bcc")? If so, that's considered rude.
I understand the reason for doing what you're doing, but please ... just
do it in your own record of the post, not the post that winds up here ;-)
Just an aside ....
since you're learning the language and may work somewhere that is willing
to pay for documentation/books/etc., check out the Perl CD Bookshelf
(published by O'Reilly - http://www.oreilly.com). It has 7 books on CD
and has a search function to aid you in finding what you need. I suggest
this because you may get something from the added reading and the example
code that goes beyond the scope of the basic (and included) Perl
documentation.
On the subject of documentation ....
Perl documentation is also available online for you to reference
(http://www.perldoc.com/).
HTH (no need to thank me; just read ... a lot ... before posting your next
question)
--
Jim
Copyright notice: all code written by the author in this post is
released under the GPL. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt
for more information.
a fortune quote ...
Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. --
Frank Zappa
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:25:45 +0100
From: Tore Aursand <tore@aursand.no>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <pan.2004.01.22.09.14.35.904225@aursand.no>
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:50:27 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
> The routine I want to test written in Basic would look like this:
>
> 10 beep
> 20 for I = 1 to 100000
> 30 timetest = timetest + 1
> 40 next I
> 50 beep
>
> If I want to run that as a DOS program in a text.pl program, what would the
> code look like? The "Beep" lets you know when it starts and stops so that
> you know how long it took to loop through the calculations.
You could use the 'timeit' function from the Benchmark module, but if you
absolutely need to set a begin/end marker;
#!/usr/bin/perl
#
use strict;
use warnings;
use Benchmark;
my $begin = Benchmark->new();
my $timetest;
$timetest++ for ( 1..100_000 );
my $end = Benchmark->new();
print 'The code took ' . timestr(timediff($end, $begin)) . "\n";
The code above exited almost at once, so I raised it to 10,000,000
iterations, which took 3.5 seconds to complete (on my AMD Athlon 750,
running Linux 2.4.20).
--
Tore Aursand <tore@aursand.no>
"Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's
troublesome." -- Isaac Asimov
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:47:21 -0500
From: "Matt Garrish" <matthew.garrish@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <sDPPb.15716$U77.1239939@news20.bellglobal.com>
"Tad McClellan" <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnc0ug47.834.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com...
> edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > Perhaps there is one included with the ActivePerl documentation.
> > But as I said, I have not yet been able to locate it.
>
>
> I can't help with that. I don't run Windows.
>
Start -- Programs -- ActiveState ActivePerl 5.8 -- Documentation
Matt
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:48:43 +0000
From: Helgi Briem <HelgiBriem_1@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <a5lv00pl2oa3u3a7fpi2dr8i53d30p335i@4ax.com>
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 07:47:21 -0500, "Matt Garrish"
<matthew.garrish@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>"Tad McClellan" <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnc0ug47.834.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com...
>> edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Perhaps there is one included with the ActivePerl documentation.
>> > But as I said, I have not yet been able to locate it.
>>
>>
>> I can't help with that. I don't run Windows.
>>
>
>Start -- Programs -- ActiveState ActivePerl 5.8 -- Documentation
Or on the commandline:
C:\>perldoc
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:54:58 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <CfTPb.19462$i4.13265@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
What would the term "top post" refer to. I have not seen it used in other
Newsgroups?
"James Willmore" <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.22.05.05.38.89398@remove.adelphia.net...
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:35:37 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
>
> [Please don't top post - it's considered rude in this USENET group]
No. I sometimes send e-mail copies of notes posted to some other Newsgroups
to other people as they are intended as announcements or they contain some
type of important technical information. The notes posted here are just
technical questions.
> Are you sending the first post out to people who are *not* reading this
> group (meaning, as a "Bcc")? If so, that's considered rude.
>
Perl is more highly structured and has many more operating modes than other
programs I have worked with. I just needed to find a starting place for
getting an overview and then seeing some actual code. So I have been able
to find those things now.
> On the subject of documentation ....
>
> Perl documentation is also available online for you to reference
> (http://www.perldoc.com/).
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 16:58:48 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <cjTPb.19465$i4.14312@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Thanks. I was getting about the same speed results as you. A little slower
perhaps on my system.
Just out of curiosity, is there a command which will cause Perl to generate
a "beep" sound when it passes a certain point?
I find that helpful for times when I am running a program in the background.
It lets you know when the program is done or needs some input.
"Tore Aursand" <tore@aursand.no> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.01.22.09.14.35.904225@aursand.no...
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:50:27 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
> > The routine I want to test written in Basic would look like this:
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:13:12 -0500
From: Paul Lalli <ittyspam@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <20040122121212.F28498@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu>
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, edgrsprj wrote:
> What would the term "top post" refer to. I have not seen it used in other
> Newsgroups?
>
> "James Willmore" <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.01.22.05.05.38.89398@remove.adelphia.net...
> > On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:35:37 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
> >
> > [Please don't top post - it's considered rude in this USENET group]
Top Post is what you're doing now - posting your reply above what you're
replying to. Don't. The original message should come first, then the
reply. That way, no one has to keep scrolling up and down all over the
message to follow the continuity.
Paul Lalli
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:14:45 -0500
From: Paul Lalli <ittyspam@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <20040122121401.P28498@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu>
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, edgrsprj wrote:
> Just out of curiosity, is there a command which will cause Perl to generate
> a "beep" sound when it passes a certain point?
print chr(7);
(ASCII character 7 is the system bell).
Paul Lalli
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:05:57 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <9PXPb.19851$i4.7577@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"Paul Lalli" <ittyspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20040122121212.F28498@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu...
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, edgrsprj wrote:
>
> Top Post is what you're doing now - posting your reply above what you're
> replying to. Don't. The original message should come first, then the
> reply. That way, no one has to keep scrolling up and down all over the
> message to follow the continuity.
>
> Paul Lalli
>
Ok Paul. Thanks. I will remember that. And I agree with you. This format
is easier to read.
As I said, the reason for the other type format is that I have been posting
notes to other Newsgroups for the past decade. They are usually technical
information notes rather than conversational ones. And they normally have a
more formal structure so that they can be copied by Newsgroup readers around
the world and circulated to local technical people and government officials.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:15:07 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <LXXPb.19891$i4.1177@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"Paul Lalli" <ittyspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20040122121401.P28498@dishwasher.cs.rpi.edu...
> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, edgrsprj wrote:
>
> print chr(7);
>
It worked. Just what I was looking for. With probably most versions of
Basic it is:
Print chr$(7) or the command BEEP
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 15:56:20 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <slrnc10ho4.b55.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> What would the term "top post" refer to.
http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html
> "James Willmore" <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.01.22.05.05.38.89398@remove.adelphia.net...
>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:35:37 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
>>
>> [Please don't top post - it's considered rude in this USENET group]
>
>
> No.
How can you say "no I won't do it" when you do not know what "it" is?
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:08:20 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <EJYPb.20193$q4.388@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"Tad McClellan" <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnc10ho4.b55.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com...
> edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> How can you say "no I won't do it" when you do not know what "it" is?
>
This is actually part of a serious international scientific research effort.
And a major problem with it is the fact that most of the people involved
have little experience with either the Internet or computer programming. And
these days the Internet is one of our most important resources for timely
communications etc.
I myself am not a true authority with Internet operations or with too many
computer programs. But I know enough about both that I can usually determine
where I should check for information such as in different Newsgroups. And I
can communicate with people who are experts in these areas sufficiently well
that we can at least exchange the necessary information which I then pass
along to the other researchers.
That has just happened with these recent posts. I now have Perl running on
my computer and know where to get additional help (here for example).
Question: Does anyone know about any IRC groups (Chat rooms) where people
talk about Perl? I went looking for some in the past but did not see any
with my initial checks. I use VIRC (versus MIRC).
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:14:09 +1000
From: Matthew Braid <mb@uq.net.au.invalid>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <bupp0h$7e2$1@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au>
Tad McClellan wrote:
> edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>>What would the term "top post" refer to.
>
>
>
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/top-post.html
>
>
>
>>"James Willmore" <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net> wrote in message
>>news:pan.2004.01.22.05.05.38.89398@remove.adelphia.net...
>>
>>>On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 03:35:37 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
>>>
>>>[Please don't top post - it's considered rude in this USENET group]
>>
>>
>>No.
>
>
>
> How can you say "no I won't do it" when you do not know what "it" is?
>
>
Did you actually read the message? It was an unusual style, but his
answers came _before_ the question. Therefore that 'No' was in response
to the question about whether he was BCC'ing people/groups. Reading past
the first 10 lines or so before responding would have made that obvious...
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:36:37 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <VM%Pb.20428$q4.13174@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
This actually refers to another section of this thread. But I am posting it
here just to indicate that I read the previous post.
That "\n"' command does force Perl to immediately send information to the
output device, in this case the computer monitor.
Using it with the print chr(7) before and after the calculation loop causes
the "bell tone" to sound. Then there is a delay while the calculations are
done. Then another bell tone sounds.
So, that question was adequately answered. As I said in another post, I did
suspect that the output information from the program was being stored
somewhere in a temporary buffer.
Score another one for the Newsgroups being a helpful source of information.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:35:24 -0600
From: Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <slrnc115js.bim.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> That "\n"' command
"\n" is not a command. It is a string.
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:10:59 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <7j7Qb.21289$i4.12063@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"Tad McClellan" <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote in message
news:slrnc115js.bim.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com...
> edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> "\n" is not a command. It is a string.
I think that I have some of the most important basics down now. They would
be how to organize and run the Perl program and how to use it to open and
close DOS and Windows programs, switch between Windows screens, print text
to a Windows screen etc. Persistence and some programming experience has
its rewards.
It presently looks like Perl will work for the desired applications.
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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:17:21 -0500
From: James Willmore <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <pan.2004.01.23.17.17.18.935966@remove.adelphia.net>
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:08:20 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
<snip>
> Question: Does anyone know about any IRC groups (Chat rooms) where people
> talk about Perl? I went looking for some in the past but did not see any
> with my initial checks. I use VIRC (versus MIRC).
Google lead me to the following link:
http://springfield.pm.org/pm-discuss/199906/msg00010.html
Although, I'm not 100% sure this is active anymore.
IMHO, I get what I need from reading comp.lang.perl.misc and reading the
documentation ;-)
--
Jim
Copyright notice: all code written by the author in this post is
released under the GPL. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt
for more information.
a fortune quote ...
Since we're all here, we must not be all there. -- Bob
"Mountain" Beck
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:39:32 GMT
From: "edgrsprj" <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <UNlQb.22407$i4.9481@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
"James Willmore" <jwillmore@remove.adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:08:20 +0000, edgrsprj wrote:
> Google lead me to the following link:
> http://springfield.pm.org/pm-discuss/199906/msg00010.html
>
Thanks. I will probably go looking for one of those IRC groups this
weekend.
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Date: 23 Jan 2004 22:42:44 -0800
From: yf110@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (Malcolm Dew-Jones)
Subject: Re: Perl speed test questions Jan. 21, 2004
Message-Id: <401213e4@news.victoria.tc.ca>
edgrsprj (edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: "Tad McClellan" <tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote in message
: news:slrnc10ho4.b55.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com...
: > edgrsprj <edgrsprj@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
: >
: > How can you say "no I won't do it" when you do not know what "it" is?
: >
: This is actually part of a serious international scientific research effort.
: And a major problem with it is the fact that most of the people involved
: have little experience with either the Internet or computer programming. And
: these days the Internet is one of our most important resources for timely
: communications etc.
: I myself am not a true authority with Internet operations or with too many
: computer programs. But I know enough about both that I can usually determine
: where I should check for information such as in different Newsgroups. And I
: can communicate with people who are experts in these areas sufficiently well
: that we can at least exchange the necessary information which I then pass
: along to the other researchers.
: That has just happened with these recent posts. I now have Perl running on
: my computer and know where to get additional help (here for example).
: Question: Does anyone know about any IRC groups (Chat rooms) where people
: talk about Perl? I went looking for some in the past but did not see any
: with my initial checks. I use VIRC (versus MIRC).
salmon fishing, but google commonly works for me
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