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Today's topics:
        About regura expression only for outside of html tags. <chang@naggama.co.kr>
    Re: pattern matching <nospam@peng.nl>
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@augustmail.com
    Re: regex behavior <abigail@abigail.nl>
    Re: require and do - absolute vs relative - let me try  <wunkalunka@elvis.com>
    Re: require and do - absolute vs relative - let me try  <wunkalunka@elvis.com>
    Re: require and do - absolute vs relative - let me try  (Anno Siegel)
    Re: require and do - relative vs absolute? <wunkalunka@elvis.com>
    Re: two regexs <mpapec@yahoo.com>
    Re: two regexs <mpapec@yahoo.com>
    Re: two regexs <mpapec@yahoo.com>
    Re: two regexs <mpapec@yahoo.com>
    Re: Very Interesting max_size in UserAgent <kuujinbo@hotmail.com>
    Re: Virus, CPU killer, Memory Eater on Sourceforge.net? <dave.nospam@ntlworld.com>
    Re:  <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 18:51:53 +0900
From: "G&G" <chang@naggama.co.kr>
Subject: About regura expression only for outside of html tags.
Message-Id: <blu2f5$qnv$1@news.hananet.net>

Have any idea about regular expression ?


I tried to change any numeric letter to Zero like following;
$aaa = ereg_replace ("|0-9|", "0", $sentence);
This seems working perfect.

My question is how I can do this function only for outside of html tags.
I don't want any numeric letters to be changed inside html tags.

Thanks for further response.

Regards,
Mo






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Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:52:16 +0100
From: "Lex" <nospam@peng.nl>
Subject: Re: pattern matching
Message-Id: <levgb.42$CT2.2175@news-reader.eresmas.com>


"Bob Walton" <invalid-email@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3F823B3F.6070602@rochester.rr.com...

> >      @xref{($word, $plural, $synonym, $text)} = ($id)x4;
>
> ----------------------------------------^^^^^
> Are you sure you want to put a whole phase in as a key in %xref?  The
> keys to %xref are supposed to be words according to the conventions used
> so far.

Well no, I just wanted to be able to use the (specific) meaning later on...


> >      $meaning{$id}=$meaning;
>
> ---------------------^^^^^^^^
> Did you use strict; and use warnings; ?  They would have pointed out
> that this variable is undef at this point because you changed it from
> $meaning to $text two lines above and didn't change it here.  If it were
> still stored in %meaning, then the text could be gotten back by ID just
> by saying $meaning{$id}.

changed it back to meaning again

> If you hadn't made the mistake of changing $meaning to $text in all but
> one of the places it is used, you could have used $meaning{$id} to get
> that text -- just replace the ... with $meaning{$id}.  You'd better make
> sure the text doesn't contain any ' characters, and perhaps " characters
> either.  Maybe < and > also?  Others?  Probably best to run it through a
> Javascript quoter, and then an HTML quoter?
>

Hi Bob. First: my original question and problem is solved, it works perfect
with this code:

open (DB, "<$db_file_name") or &cgierr("error in search. unable to open
database: $db_file_name.\nReason: $!");
 if ($db_use_flock) { flock(DB, 1); }

my %xref;
my %meaning;
while ( <DB> ) {
     chomp;
     my($id, $word, $plural, $synonym,$cat,$meaning) = split /\|/;
     @xref{($word, $plural, $synonym)} = ($id)x3;
     $meaning{$id}=$meaning;
}

foreach my $id(keys %meaning){
     foreach my $word ( $rec{'Text'} =~ /\S+/g ) {
my $newword = "<a
href=\"$db_script_link_url&ID=$xref{$word}&mh=1&ww=1&view_records=1\">$word<
/a>";
$rec{'Text'} =~ s|\b$word\b|$newword|gs if exists $xref{$word};
 }
}

close DB;

What it does: when showing the field $rec{'Text'}from one of the records of
the database it checks if words, synonyms or plurals form all records in the
database are used in this field and if so create a link to those words.
Anyway, I don't need telling you people do I? :) But just to be clear about
what I'm doning.

Now I wanted something more again (always the same...), when showing records
from another database I wanted it to happen as well. Got that working (the
links), wasn't very hard. However, I now wanted a popup screen as well
already showing the meaning of the word (taken from the meaning field). Now,
here I run into troubles and I think it's because it's still working and
trying to do things with that meaning field as well. If it would produce
just the text it works. I thought it might be ' or " as you suggested so
made sure that I got rid of them. However, that didn't do the trick and the
problem was worse than just that.

So I think $meaning{$id} in this case (underneath) has more luggage than
that what I am looking for. In this case I do not want links in this field
now, I know I want a lot and am still not capable of producing it, quite
frustrating, but hey, this is my way of learning I guess. I'll copy the code
underneath that I tried but that was giving me more than I wanted:

open (DB, "<$db_file_name_abc") or &cgierr("error in search. unable to open
database: $db_file_name_abc.\nReason: $!");
 if ($db_use_flock) { flock(DB, 1); }

my %xref;
my %meaning;
while ( <DB> ) {
     chomp;
     my($id, $word, $plural, $synonym, $cat, $meaning) = split /\|/;
     @xref{($word, $plural, $synonym, $meaning)} = ($id)x4;
     $meaning{$id}=$meaning;
}

foreach my $id(keys %meaning){
     foreach my $word ( $rec{'Text'} =~ /\S+/g ) {

if ($xref{$word}) {

my $newword = "<a
href=\"$db_dir_url/db.cgi?db=abc&uid=$db_uid&ID=$xref{$word}&mh=1&ww=1&view_
records=1\" class=\"abclink\"
ONMOUSEOVER=\"popup('$meaning{$id}','#ffffcc')\";
ONMOUSEOUT=\"kill()\">$word</a>";

$rec{'Text'} =~ s|\b$word\b|$newword|gs;
  }
 }
}

close DB;

As soon as I insert $meaning{$id} it all goes wrong, all of it, even $word
isn't what it's supposed to be anymore. As well after cutting out all html
and ' and " etc. from $meaning{$id}.

To all the people (still) reading this: thanks for your patience with me! :)

Lex




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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 02:22:11 -0500
From: tadmc@augustmail.com
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.4 $)
Message-Id: <V3SdnfRSePo-9B-iU-KYiA@august.net>

Outline
   Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Must
       - Check the Perl Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
       - Check the other standard Perl docs (*.pod)
      Really Really Should
       - Lurk for a while before posting
       - Search a Usenet archive
      If You Like
       - Check Other Resources
   Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Is there a better place to ask your question?
       - Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
      How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
       - Carefully choose the contents of your Subject header
       - Use an effective followup style
       - Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
       - Ask perl to help you
       - Do not re-type Perl code
       - Provide enough information
       - Do not provide too much information
       - Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
      Social faux pas to avoid
       - Asking a Frequently Asked Question
       - Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
       - Asking for emailed answers
       - Beware of saying "doesn't work"
       - Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
      Be extra cautious when you get upset
       - Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
       - Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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AUTHOR
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    comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.



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Date: 07 Oct 2003 07:25:55 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.nl>
Subject: Re: regex behavior
Message-Id: <slrnbo4qk3.13v.abigail@alexandra.abigail.nl>

Michael P. Broida (michael.p.broida@boeing_oops.com) wrote on
MMMDCLXXXVIII September MCMXCIII in <URL:news:3F81D592.208F5420@boeing_oops.com>:
''  Abigail wrote:
'' > 
'' > Michael P. Broida (michael.p.broida@boeing_oops.com) wrote on
'' > MMMDCLXXXIII September MCMXCIII in <URL:news:3F7B532C.7878A3BB@boeing_oops.com>:
'' > ,,  Abigail wrote:
'' > ,, >
'' > ,, > Matija Papec (mpapec@yahoo.com) wrote on MMMDCLXXXIII September MCMXCIII
'' > ,, > in <URL:news:4bdmnvcb9or2nbm2ne1euvhqp1e64s84g7@4ax.com>:
'' > ,, > --
'' > ,, > --  I went through perldoc but didn't found similar regex,
'' > ,, > --  print join ',', 'a bb ccc dddd' =~ /(\w)+/g;
'' > ,, > --
'' > ,, > --  the question is, what it exactly matches and why?
'' > ,, >
'' > ,, > /(\w)+/ matches a set of consecutive word characters, capturing
'' > ,, > the *last* one. //g in list context means, do this as often as
'' > ,, > possible (without overlap), returning a list of each of the submatches.
'' > ,, >
'' > ,, > So, 'a bb ccc dddd' =~ /(\w)+/g; returns for each substring of
'' > ,, > consecutive word characters the last one, resulting in 'a', 'b', 'c' and 'd'.
'' > ,,
'' > ,,      That tests out as you said, so it's MY thinking that's off.  :)
'' > ,,      Hopefully, you can clue me in.  :)
'' > ,,
'' > ,,      I expected it to result in "a,bb,ccc,dddd". Now I realize that
'' > ,,      it's the positioning of the + that causes it to get a single
'' > ,,      character from each group.  If the + is inside the (), it
'' > ,,      prints what I expected.
'' > ,,
'' > ,,      But...  What is causing the original /(\w)+/ to get the LAST
'' > ,,      character from each group instead of the FIRST character from
'' > ,,      each group?
'' > 
'' > Would you expect:
'' > 
'' >     $x = $_ for qw /a b c d/
'' >     print $x;
'' > 
'' > to print 'a' as well?
''  
''  	It doesn't print anything without a semi-colon on the first line.
''  	<grin>
''  
''  	At first glance, I thought it would print each letter.  Then I
''  	looked deeper and realized it's basically assigning and re-assigning
''  	$x (via $_) during the "for" loop, but only printing it when it's all
''  	done.  Thus it only prints "d".
''  
''  	But the prior discussion was about a regex, not a "for" loop.
''  	If your point is that the regex processing works similarly to
''  	the "for" loop in your example, then I see what you mean.
''  
''  	If that's NOT what your point was, then you've lost me.  <grin>


My point is, if you repeatedly assign something to a variable, do you
expect the variable to retain the first value it was set to, or the
last value? Because that's happening in both the match, and the for loop.



Abigail
-- 
perl -swleprint -- -_=Just\ another\ Perl\ Hacker


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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 08:28:09 GMT
From: Derf <wunkalunka@elvis.com>
Subject: Re: require and do - absolute vs relative - let me try again
Message-Id: <Xns940D239D5BBE4wunkalunkaelviscom@24.28.95.150>

jwillmore@cyberia.com (James Willmore) wrote in
news:e0160815.0310061754.2929782c@posting.google.com: 
> Huh?  Try again using something like "/a/b/c/file.pl" instead of what
> you used to describe the issue.  Maybe after doing that, you may find
> your error and not need to post ... because, it looks as though you're
> confussed about where the files are.  I know I am :-)
> 
> Seriously, you _should_ be able to execute another script from another
> location using an absolute path.  You may want to check your
> permissions and, as always, try the script from the command line to
> see what happens.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Jim

I appreciate the help. I have the same problem from command line. It 
turns out it is just this script. Other scripts run fine with the 
absolute path. It is only this one script that says it can't be found if 
I use an absolute path, but can be found if it is in the same directory 
with a relative path (any other relative path fails as well "No such file 
or directory"). The reqiuired script runs fine. The required script has a 
couple do commands that use relative paths though. I wonder if those do 
commands might need to be absolute so the require sees them. hmmmm


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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 08:33:52 GMT
From: Derf <wunkalunka@elvis.com>
Subject: Re: require and do - absolute vs relative - let me try again
Message-Id: <Xns940D2495BA2CAwunkalunkaelviscom@24.28.95.150>

Derf <wunkalunka@elvis.com> wrote in
news:Xns940D239D5BBE4wunkalunkaelviscom@24.28.95.150: 
> 
The reqiuired script runs fine. The
> required script has a couple do commands that use relative paths
> though. I wonder if those do commands might need to be absolute so the
> require sees them. hmmmm 
> 

Yeah, that was it.


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Date: 7 Oct 2003 09:16:19 GMT
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Re: require and do - absolute vs relative - let me try again
Message-Id: <blu093$hhk$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>

Derf  <wunkalunka@elvis.com> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> jwillmore@cyberia.com (James Willmore) wrote in
> news:e0160815.0310061754.2929782c@posting.google.com: 
> > Huh?  Try again using something like "/a/b/c/file.pl" instead of what
> > you used to describe the issue.  Maybe after doing that, you may find
> > your error and not need to post ... because, it looks as though you're
> > confussed about where the files are.  I know I am :-)
> > 
> > Seriously, you _should_ be able to execute another script from another
> > location using an absolute path.  You may want to check your
> > permissions and, as always, try the script from the command line to
> > see what happens.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Jim
> 
> I appreciate the help. I have the same problem from command line. It 
> turns out it is just this script. Other scripts run fine with the 
> absolute path. It is only this one script that says it can't be found if 
> I use an absolute path, but can be found if it is in the same directory 
> with a relative path...

Does the mystery script do a "chroot" by any means?  Not that that has
anything to do with Perl...

Anno


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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 08:21:03 GMT
From: Derf <wunkalunka@elvis.com>
Subject: Re: require and do - relative vs absolute?
Message-Id: <Xns940D226825720wunkalunkaelviscom@24.28.95.158>

Bob Walton <invalid-email@rochester.rr.com> wrote in news:3F820680.403
@rochester.rr.com:

> CGI debugging is a FAQ, and, as the FAQ mentions, is also off-topic here 
> (your question and its answer would be the same if your script was 
> written in C, Befunge, etc).  Please see:
> 
>     perldoc -q 500
> 


it is a Perl question to me, and I only mentioned the Web factor so folks 
didn't start asking me if I was stating my path from my web root or actual 
root. The CGI part is really irrelevant to the problem, it happens from 
command line as well. Unfortunately, this is just confusing to describe.

Derf


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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:07:15 +0200
From: Matija Papec <mpapec@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: two regexs
Message-Id: <v7p4ov4qlf24q1kuvj24foqidk88hlp0g5@4ax.com>

On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:24:24 -0500, tadmc@augustmail.com (Tad
McClellan) wrote:

>>>What is a "predefined form" ?
>> 
>> I have forms stored in html files and need to populate them with user or db
>> input.
>
>
>That is client-side then? 

No, did you have a look a the code? It is on the server side.




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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:14:06 +0200
From: Matija Papec <mpapec@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: two regexs
Message-Id: <6hp4ov4ur0jftgjc4953o5rqda0ce7n5m4@4ax.com>

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 22:21:56 GMT, Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
wrote:

>>           How do I automate an HTML form submission?
>> 
>> (despite the fact that the question has nothing to do with HTML...)
>> 
>> 
>> Or are you talking about something else?
>> 
>> (maybe I still don't know what a "predefined form" is?)
>
>i think the o.p. is simply talking about html templates. HTML::Template 
>or Template Toolkit sound appropriate here...

Seems like an overkill if it's not used in other aspects beside form
populating[1].


[1] like in
http://search.cpan.org/~jsm/HTML-Defaultify-1.01/Defaultify.pm




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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:20:33 +0200
From: Matija Papec <mpapec@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: two regexs
Message-Id: <mvp4ov40j8918o2ajt36d66r5akreistq8@4ax.com>

On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 13:09:17 -0700, Steven Kuo <skuo@mtwhitney.nsc.com>
wrote:

>It's fine.   Other alternatives are likely to be ugly.  For example,
>
>my @str = ( 
>    '="foo bar" ..',
>    '=foobar ..',  
>);
>
>for (@str) {
>    if (/=(")?((??{ $1 ? q{.+?(?=")} : q{\\S+} }))/) {

Tnx.. I did look at this for some time! :)




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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 09:30:00 +0200
From: Matija Papec <mpapec@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: two regexs
Message-Id: <maq4ovoc9ap0b2rr3nhd8l11cr80eqq3mb@4ax.com>

On 6 Oct 2003 17:57:14 -0700, kuujinbo@hotmail.com (ko) wrote:

>I'm not sure how you're defining bloated - maybe not loading modules
>if its not necessary? If you don't mind looking into HTML::TreeBuilder
>(you also need HTML-Parser and HTML-Tagset, maybe that's what you mean
>by bloated), the code itself isn't that bad:

Yes, maybe bloated is wrong word, overkill probably better describes
the situation. :)

>__DATA__
><form>
><input maxlength=50 name="IME" size=50 type="text" value="Default">
><input name="Q1" type="CHECKBOX" value="A1">A1
><input name="Q1" type="CHECKBOX" value="A2">A2
><input name="Q1" type="CHECKBOX" value="A3">A3
></form>
>
>====END
>
>The attr() method allows you to read/manipulate any tag's attribute.
>And it will also work for a group of checkboxes with the same name :)

Tnx, that is what I needed; I'll try some benchmarks and decide.



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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 16:35:34 +0900
From: ko <kuujinbo@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Very Interesting max_size in UserAgent
Message-Id: <bltqft$ot4$1@pin3.tky.plala.or.jp>

Public Interest wrote:
>   #!/usr/bin/perl
>   use Net::HTTP;
>   use LWP::UserAgent;
> 
>   $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new ( );
>   $ua->max_size(2000);
>   $url = 'http://www.yahoo.com';
> 
>   my $req = HTTP::Request->new(GET => "$url");
> 
>   $htmlcode = $ua->request($req)->content;
>   print $htmlcode;
> 
> # the problem is if i change 2000 to 1950 in max_size, the $htmlcode is
> still the same. Looks to me that the server is flushing and client is using
> buffer to hold it and the server decide how much each flushing is giving,
> and if each flushing is 1024 bytes, and max_size is checked after each
> flushing. So, max size of 1025 to max size of 2047 will give the same
> result: both are 2048. Is that right? So max_size in UserAgent is really an
> estimated value.

No, it is a specific limit. From the LWP::UserAgent docs:

$ua->max_size([$bytes])

Get/set the size limit for response content. The default is undef, which 
means that there is no limit. If the returned response content is only 
partial, because the size limit was exceeded, then a ``Client-Aborted'' 
header will be added to the response.

So if you want to check if max_size has been exceeded, you have to test 
for if there is a Client-Aborted header:

#!/usr/intel/bin/perl -w
use strict;

use LWP::UserAgent;

my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new( max_size => 0);
my $url = 'http://www.yahoo.com';
print "Exceeded max_size\n" if $ua->get($url)->header('Client-Aborted');

HTH - keith



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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 10:04:02 +0100 (BST)
From: "Dave Saville" <dave.nospam@ntlworld.com>
Subject: Re: Virus, CPU killer, Memory Eater on Sourceforge.net?
Message-Id: <qnirfnivyyragyjbeyqpbz.hme4eq7.pminews@text.news.ntlworld.com>

On Mon, 06 Oct 2003 23:54:32 GMT, Public Interest wrote:

>I am not sure it is my problem or a general problem. Last week, there was a
>hack on changing your DNS record on your PC via IE. The hackers use banners
>on forturncity, a free web hosting company to do that. It seems to me

Do you have any pointers to this? I have a friend who I think has been
hit.

Thanks.

Regards

Dave Saville

NB switch saville for nospam in address




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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:59:56 GMT
From: Bob Walton <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 
Message-Id: <3F18A600.3040306@rochester.rr.com>

Ron wrote:

> Tried this code get a server 500 error.
> 
> Anyone know what's wrong with it?
> 
> if $DayName eq "Select a Day" or $RouteName eq "Select A Route") {

(---^


>     dienice("Please use the back button on your browser to fill out the Day
> & Route fields.");
> }
 ...
> Ron

 ...
-- 
Bob Walton



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