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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 03:05:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest Sat, 16 Aug 2003 Volume: 10 Number: 5371
Today's topics:
"goodbye little kiddie" from uri <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: "goodbye little kiddie" from uri <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
and why can't I do my own CGI? <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: and why can't I do my own CGI? <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: and why can't I do my own CGI? <pinyaj@rpi.edu>
Re: and why can't I do my own CGI? <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: and why can't I do my own CGI? <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: and why can't I do my own CGI? <tassilo.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
CGI is not so hard <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: CGI is not so hard <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: CGI is not so hard <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: CGI is not so hard <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Re: CGI is not so hard <tassilo.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
file upload in cgi <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: file upload in cgi <mpapec@yahoo.com>
Re: hand crafting soap for google api's <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: hand crafting soap for google api's <tassilo.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Re: How to create an array from a string? (Francesco Moi)
Re: How to create an array from a string? <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Re: MIME::Lite won't send simple email with "foreign" c <mbudash@sonic.net>
peace and good night <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
perl zombies <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: perl zombies <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: perl zombies (Sam Holden)
Re: perl zombies <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: perl zombies <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: perl zombies <uri@stemsystems.com>
Re: perl zombies <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Re: soap, etc <tassilo.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Re: <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:09:19 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: "goodbye little kiddie" from uri
Message-Id: <04mrjv04oupg61v3ghn948m75p6rlc7b1b@4ax.com>
sweet...you suck...
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:16:01 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: "goodbye little kiddie" from uri
Message-Id: <hfmrjvc3q723drabkelorv1bkutsoneqkf@4ax.com>
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:09:19 -0700, Hudson
<scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com> wrote:
>sweet...you suck...
uri....I lost all respect for you tonight...you don't read very clearly and the
things you post are wrong.
I think you are just another name calling troll...
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:19:32 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: and why can't I do my own CGI?
Message-Id: <7mmrjvg3okg829qnrar3iildtl86v1mr8k@4ax.com>
I don't see why I have to use some huge module when the ideas behind it are
simple...
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:23:06 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: and why can't I do my own CGI?
Message-Id: <csmrjvk88gs41b8irahg6o1aoruhtmesuj@4ax.com>
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:19:32 -0700, Hudson
<scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com> wrote:
>I don't see why I have to use some huge module when the ideas behind it are
>simple...
for example...
get input
know what you are doing with it
don't use it for things that can fuck up your system unless you check it
what else is there?
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:37:08 -0400
From: Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan <pinyaj@rpi.edu>
Subject: Re: and why can't I do my own CGI?
Message-Id: <Pine.A41.3.96.1030816003444.32004A-100000@vcmr-104.server.rpi.edu>
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Hudson wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:19:32 -0700, Hudson
><scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't see why I have to use some huge module when the ideas behind it are
>>simple...
>
>for example...
>
>get input
>know what you are doing with it
>don't use it for things that can fuck up your system unless you check it
>what else is there?
You'd be surprised how hard it is to do these things right.
Are you dealing with POST or GET?
Are you dealing with a file upload? (That's not easy or fun to do from
scratch.)
Are you handling multiple fields with the same name properly?
Are you storing the data safely?
Etc.
(And you don't need to post each sentence of an idea as a separate article
in the newsgroup. And your attitude is likely to get you ignored by the
people that could help you the most.)
--
Jeff Pinyan RPI Acacia Brother #734 2003 Rush Chairman
"And I vos head of Gestapo for ten | Michael Palin (as Heinrich Bimmler)
years. Ah! Five years! Nein! No! | in: The North Minehead Bye-Election
Oh. Was NOT head of Gestapo AT ALL!" | (Monty Python's Flying Circus)
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:55:39 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: and why can't I do my own CGI?
Message-Id: <0qorjvs5ti94p4jdtg1tg2vg2kais10bd9@4ax.com>
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:37:08 -0400, Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan <pinyaj@rpi.edu> wrote:
>(And you don't need to post each sentence of an idea as a separate article
>in the newsgroup. And your attitude is likely to get you ignored by the
>people that could help you the most.)
what attitude? I just got attacked from uri because I dared to think different
than him...so of course it makes me pissed
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:56:40 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: and why can't I do my own CGI?
Message-Id: <isorjv0ohfripmh8u5p2g4hdqo4blbknhb@4ax.com>
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:37:08 -0400, Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan <pinyaj@rpi.edu> wrote:
>You'd be surprised how hard it is to do these things right.
>
>Are you dealing with POST or GET?
>
>Are you dealing with a file upload? (That's not easy or fun to do from
>scratch.)
>
>Are you handling multiple fields with the same name properly?
>
>Are you storing the data safely?
like I said...know what you are doing with the data...it is not so hard...
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Date: 16 Aug 2003 06:39:51 GMT
From: "Tassilo v. Parseval" <tassilo.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: and why can't I do my own CGI?
Message-Id: <bhkjjn$gn1$1@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE>
Also sprach Hudson:
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:37:08 -0400, Jeff 'japhy' Pinyan
> <pinyaj@rpi.edu> wrote:
>
>>You'd be surprised how hard it is to do these things right.
>>
>>Are you dealing with POST or GET?
>>
>>Are you dealing with a file upload? (That's not easy or fun to do from
>>scratch.)
>>
>>Are you handling multiple fields with the same name properly?
>>
>>Are you storing the data safely?
>
> like I said...know what you are doing with the data...it is not so hard...
Nothing appears to be hard for you. So what do you want from this group?
If things are really that simple but you nonetheless consult the group
for help, perhaps they are still too tall an order for you.
Tassilo
--
$_=q#",}])!JAPH!qq(tsuJ[{@"tnirp}3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$-3(rellac(=_$({
pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
$_=reverse,s+(?<=sub).+q#q!'"qq.\t$&."'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~dddd;eval
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:58:28 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: CGI is not so hard
Message-Id: <7asrjvs6bj9vpbql1br3luldr2vv03lcqj@4ax.com>
Why is everyone around here acting like CGI is some big secret? I read the RFC's
on HTTP, etc...it is no big deal....GET, HEAD, POST, etc...
When you are writing your code, you write it for the method you are using.
You use environment varibles to grab the input from the form.
You don't let untainted stuff into your shell, etc....
So...what's the big deal?
I think you guys are all trying to get contracting jobs and that's why you all
are acting like this ;-)
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:02:53 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: CGI is not so hard
Message-Id: <rksrjvg2oqpk6jrbvpi2vpe59qghf067kr@4ax.com>
and soap is even easier:
from: http://www.w3.org/TR/SOAP/#_Toc478383490
Example 1 SOAP Message Embedded in HTTP Request
POST /StockQuote HTTP/1.1
Host: www.stockquoteserver.com
Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
Content-Length: nnnn
SOAPAction: "Some-URI"
<SOAP-ENV:Envelope
xmlns:SOAP-ENV="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"
SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/">
<SOAP-ENV:Body>
<m:GetLastTradePrice xmlns:m="Some-URI">
<symbol>DIS</symbol>
</m:GetLastTradePrice>
</SOAP-ENV:Body>
</SOAP-ENV:Envelope>
not so hard...just connect to a socket, send header and request...you guys here
are really lamers ;-)
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 02:09:15 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: CGI is not so hard
Message-Id: <33trjvothr5jaderpr9fj8st36hkdon231@4ax.com>
ok...I have really had it with this group...I think this is lame that you all
don't know http or cgi or soap and can only think in modules.
what kind of programmers are you all? geez......!!
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 06:40:14 GMT
From: "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: CGI is not so hard
Message-Id: <ilk%a.2843$kK4.2161@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>
Hudson wrote:
[3 articles, all follow ups to his own articles]
What is wrong? Do you always talk to yourself?
jue
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Date: 16 Aug 2003 06:55:07 GMT
From: "Tassilo v. Parseval" <tassilo.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: CGI is not so hard
Message-Id: <bhkkgb$h31$1@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE>
Also sprach Hudson:
> Why is everyone around here acting like CGI is some big secret? I read
> the RFC's on HTTP, etc...it is no big deal....GET, HEAD, POST, etc...
>
> When you are writing your code, you write it for the method you are using.
>
> You use environment varibles to grab the input from the form.
Huh? Certainly not for POST.
> You don't let untainted stuff into your shell, etc....
>
> So...what's the big deal?
>
> I think you guys are all trying to get contracting jobs and that's why you all
> are acting like this ;-)
And somewhere else you ask:
> what kind of programmers are you all? geez......!!
Why don't you find out yourself? To get an idea on what those very
people you are poorly trying to attack have done so far go to
http://search.cpan.org/ and look up their name. After that you'll have a
change to see the code they have written and released. Compare that with
your own works and you'll quickly have to acknowledge that they aren't
as lazy, clueless and unwilling to read RFCs as you try to convey.
Or grep a perl source distribution for their names and learn that some
of them are distributing to the perl-core. That alone makes your
statements utterly ludicrous.
If I do any of the above for your name (which happens to be non-real,
btw), I'm sure I'll come up with nothing.
Tassilo
--
$_=q#",}])!JAPH!qq(tsuJ[{@"tnirp}3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$-3(rellac(=_$({
pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
$_=reverse,s+(?<=sub).+q#q!'"qq.\t$&."'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~dddd;eval
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:08:19 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: file upload in cgi
Message-Id: <bhprjvok773hasvlrngbdug10vp9r7mumm@4ax.com>
very easy...I did it yesterday...if a file is over x bytes, stop the transfer
and unlink the file...what's so hard?
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:17:15 +0200
From: Matija Papec <mpapec@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: file upload in cgi
Message-Id: <ditrjvco0orbjrp2c0qd79d7pt2jmva603@4ax.com>
X-Ftn-To: Hudson
Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com> wrote:
>very easy...I did it yesterday...if a file is over x bytes, stop the transfer
>and unlink the file...what's so hard?
What happens when you interrupt your upload or when you're uploading
multiple files at once?
--
Matija
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:08:18 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: hand crafting soap for google api's
Message-Id: <00mrjvo48aafdp0dihfd4l3kpcqb4toj2v@4ax.com>
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 03:59:24 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote:
>but at least you are using CGI.pm now
I never, ever use CGI.pm...you are being the total troll with me! I used it last
month before I did tons of research into doing it by hand.
Geez.....hehe...I am starting to hate you, uri ;-)
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Date: 16 Aug 2003 06:29:03 GMT
From: "Tassilo v. Parseval" <tassilo.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: hand crafting soap for google api's
Message-Id: <bhkivf$gb8$1@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE>
Also sprach Hudson:
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 03:32:14 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote:
>>and about code reuse. now why don't you stop all this defensive behavior
>>and just realize that professionals reuse code for many good
>>reasons. you will learn them over time but in the meantime stop (poorly)
>>reinventing every wheel you see.
> that's not true...I understand CGI parsing very well. CGI.pm I don't
> understand, but understand that it is not so great. I don't use it. So
> the code I posted I wrote last month before I got into CGI.
The decision to hand-roll your own solution is amongst the poorest you
can make. And you really think it takes less time to write a robust and
standard-compliant parser yourself than learning the relevant bits of
CGI.pm? Which are actually just:
use CGI qw/param/;
my @params = param(); # all parameters in the query string
for my $p (@params) {
my $val = param($p); # single value for parameter $p
my @vals = param($p); # all values for parameter $p
}
That's not too complicated, is it?
But naturally, you are free to write your own parser. Please post it
here when you are done with it so that we can all have a good laughter.
> I know how to taint and untaint and what the dangers are...it is no big deal.
Tainting is a different issue altogether. CGI.pm doesn't handle
taintedness for you at all.
> Stop being a troll with me...thank you.
The most reliable way to get dropped in many killfiles is calling a
well-respected regular a troll.
Tassilo
--
$_=q#",}])!JAPH!qq(tsuJ[{@"tnirp}3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$-3(rellac(=_$({
pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
$_=reverse,s+(?<=sub).+q#q!'"qq.\t$&."'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~dddd;eval
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Date: 16 Aug 2003 01:34:42 -0700
From: francescomoi@europe.com (Francesco Moi)
Subject: Re: How to create an array from a string?
Message-Id: <5b829932.0308160034.531c82d2@posting.google.com>
I need to create an _anonymous_ array (sorry, I din't mention it) to
be included in @data, e.g.:
@data = (['John','Peter','Sophie'],[1,2,3]);
The first anonymous array of @data is always constant, but [1,2,3] is
built from $string.
So I would like to create an anonymous array from a string.
francescomoi@europe.com (Francesco Moi) wrote in message news:<5b829932.0308151533.18c7de64@posting.google.com>...
> Hello.
>
> I would like to create an array from a string. I tried with:
> ---------------------------
> $string = "1 2 3";
> @array1 = [1,2,3];
> @array2 = split(/\s/, $string);
> print $array1[0] . " - " . $array1[1] . " - " . $array1[2] . "\n";
> print $array2[0] . " - " . $array2[1] . " - " . $array2[2] . "\n";
> ---------------------------
>
> But I get:
> ----------------------------
> ARRAY(0x1674e9c) - -
> 1 - 2 - 3
> -----------------------------
>
> I would like to generate an array of the same type of 'array1' from
> 'string'. Is it possible?
>
> Thank you very much.
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:04:02 +0200
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
Subject: Re: How to create an array from a string?
Message-Id: <bhks1d$i6i5$1@ID-184292.news.uni-berlin.de>
Francesco Moi wrote:
> I need to create an _anonymous_ array (sorry, I din't mention it)
> to be included in @data, e.g.:
>
> @data = (['John','Peter','Sophie'],[1,2,3]);
$string = "1 2 3";
@data = (['John','Peter','Sophie'], [split /\s/, $string]);
print "$data[0]->[0] - $data[0]->[1] - $data[0]->[2]\n";
print "$data[1]->[0] - $data[1]->[1] - $data[1]->[2]\n";
--
Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Email: http://www.gunnar.cc/cgi-bin/contact.pl
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 07:29:57 GMT
From: Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: MIME::Lite won't send simple email with "foreign" chars
Message-Id: <mbudash-6E258B.00295516082003@typhoon.sonic.net>
In article <mbudash-43596D.19594715082003@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net> wrote:
> hey all -
>
> i'm using MIME::Lite to send emails. works great. now i need to send
> this in an email:
>
> http://66.221.117.199/email_student
>
> and it won't. period. no error. just no sendy. tried EVERYTHING (except,
> of course what i need to try to make it work). if i take out the foreign
> characters, it sends. what am i doing wrong???
>
> here's my test script:
>
> [snip]
nevermind - goddam spamassassin was getting confused...
--
Michael Budash
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:18:29 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: peace and good night
Message-Id: <85qrjv4vuni12e3o1qtdfirm1rhue75l39@4ax.com>
I think I'm going to learn C instead ;-)
hehe....
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:26:43 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: perl zombies
Message-Id: <51nrjv08jsrjq81r4s46vh0p69u4u0s43v@4ax.com>
there are some people in the perl community that want to follow a party line and
become so intolerant of anything outside of their own mindset...it is really a
_bad_thing_
IMHO (uri being case in point)
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 04:37:29 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: perl zombies
Message-Id: <x7n0earzee.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "H" == Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com> writes:
H> there are some people in the perl community that want to follow a
H> party line and become so intolerant of anything outside of their
H> own mindset...it is really a _bad_thing_
H> IMHO (uri being case in point)
your opinion doesn't mean much in the perl community. oh, well. live
inside your petty little world. you have professed to not to use common
and stable modules. that is against all basic tenets of coding in any
language. so you think you can recode all the modules on cpan? go ahead.
now if you post here, expect comments on your code including not using
modules.
uri
--
Uri Guttman ------ uri@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.stemsystems.com
--Perl Consulting, Stem Development, Systems Architecture, Design and Coding-
Search or Offer Perl Jobs ---------------------------- http://jobs.perl.org
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Date: 16 Aug 2003 04:47:12 GMT
From: sholden@flexal.cs.usyd.edu.au (Sam Holden)
Subject: Re: perl zombies
Message-Id: <slrnbjrdqg.kcq.sholden@flexal.cs.usyd.edu.au>
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 04:37:29 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "H" == Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com> writes:
>
> H> there are some people in the perl community that want to follow a
> H> party line and become so intolerant of anything outside of their
> H> own mindset...it is really a _bad_thing_
>
>
> H> IMHO (uri being case in point)
>
> your opinion doesn't mean much in the perl community. oh, well. live
> inside your petty little world. you have professed to not to use common
> and stable modules. that is against all basic tenets of coding in any
> language. so you think you can recode all the modules on cpan? go ahead.
>
> now if you post here, expect comments on your code including not using
> modules.
Well, not too many comments, since I suspect a lot of killfiles received
a new entry...
--
Sam Holden
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:58:53 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: perl zombies
Message-Id: <cvorjv89qv153vncvbrgu716fv1lot2867@4ax.com>
>Well, not too many comments, since I suspect a lot of killfiles received
>a new entry...
for what? for speaking the truth? close your eyes then and be blind...there's
enough fun on the internet for me without you reading my posts ;-)
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:01:07 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: perl zombies
Message-Id: <d3prjvk2l2jjb9ono1n3emgcaf21c8c06r@4ax.com>
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 04:37:29 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "H" == Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com> writes:
>
> H> there are some people in the perl community that want to follow a
> H> party line and become so intolerant of anything outside of their
> H> own mindset...it is really a _bad_thing_
>
>
> H> IMHO (uri being case in point)
>
>your opinion doesn't mean much in the perl community. oh, well. live
>inside your petty little world. you have professed to not to use common
>and stable modules. that is against all basic tenets of coding in any
>language. so you think you can recode all the modules on cpan? go ahead.
>
>now if you post here, expect comments on your code including not using
>modules.
>
>uri
uri...you've acted like a prick all night....I come in here with some honest
questions and you give me this party line like "ohhhhhhh....no cgi by yourself"
and "oooooooh...you are a beginner if you don't use Soap::Lite"
bah!!
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 05:04:02 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
Subject: Re: perl zombies
Message-Id: <x7k79ery66.fsf@mail.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "H" == Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com> writes:
H> uri...you've acted like a prick all night....I come in here with
H> some honest questions and you give me this party line like
H> "ohhhhhhh....no cgi by yourself" and "oooooooh...you are a beginner
H> if you don't use Soap::Lite"
and you have acted like so many self taught coders who think they can
solve all problems by themselves. i am not concerned about what you
do. and your future potential employers would be wise to be wary of you.
but i am concerned about others who read your posts and i want to make
sure they don't follow your bad lead. solving cgi or soap for a specific
case is less than trivial. you don't seem to get that. you won't until
you tire of editing all the strings each time something minor
changes. that is the root reason for module development and reuse. you
will just have to live through your own bad experiences before you see
the light. as for party line, i didn't write it nor do i preach it. i
just expose those who profess to know things and who really don't.
H> bah!!
humbug!
now please go away and code in your little corner. you won't be getting
much help here anymore with that attitude.
uri
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Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 01:11:12 -0700
From: Hudson <scripts_you-know-the-drill_@hudsonscripting.com>
Subject: Re: perl zombies
Message-Id: <vmprjv8m2iico7g64rrt3eh1b2ctnaf7pk@4ax.com>
oh...come on...I have a little fun and write some stuff that uses soap....I know
what I want and how to do it...why is there a problem with that?
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Date: 16 Aug 2003 06:32:20 GMT
From: "Tassilo v. Parseval" <tassilo.parseval@rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: soap, etc
Message-Id: <bhkj5k$gh7$1@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE>
Also sprach Hudson:
> well...I would say good and bad. I love using modules for sockets,
> etc. But it is frustrating that it is so hard to find a simple example
> on how to do a soap call without Soap::Lite...this is very easy stuff,
> I think...and there is no need for a module here.
Why do you need an example at all if doing SOAP by hand is 'easy stuff'?
What you write is self-contradictory.
Tassilo
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Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 01:59:56 GMT
From: Bob Walton <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re:
Message-Id: <3F18A600.3040306@rochester.rr.com>
Ron wrote:
> Tried this code get a server 500 error.
>
> Anyone know what's wrong with it?
>
> if $DayName eq "Select a Day" or $RouteName eq "Select A Route") {
(---^
> dienice("Please use the back button on your browser to fill out the Day
> & Route fields.");
> }
...
> Ron
...
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