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Fri May 23 06:06:03 2003

Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 03:05:07 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest           Fri, 23 May 2003     Volume: 10 Number: 5029

Today's topics:
    Re: awstats ignores HostAliases if using %virtualname <cat@no-spam.com>
    Re: calling an exe file <islaw@adexec.com>
    Re: calling an exe file <islaw@adexec.com>
    Re: calling an exe file <islaw@adexec.com>
    Re: calling an exe file <islaw@adexec.com>
    Re: Copying all files in a directory (Helgi Briem)
    Re: day of week <cat@no-spam.com>
    Re: extract pattern <ericw@nospam.ku.edu>
    Re: help me with these guts <foobear@nospam.net>
    Re: Info files? <nobody@noplace.com>
        Lookahead: find empty line(s) or $ <MartinSchweikert@gmx.de>
        o conf urllist <waty@powerup.com.au>
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@augustmail.com
    Re: Problem with Addition - doesn't interpret as a numb <krahnj@acm.org>
    Re: Problem with Addition - doesn't interpret as a numb <bigj@kamelfreund.de>
        reading javascript arrays <wenjoh26@EMAIL.pct.edu>
    Re: reading javascript arrays <allanon@hotmail.com>
    Re: Regexp Multiple Matching Problem (david)
    Re: Scalar String concatination not working <subs.nntp.wfitzgerald@crtman.com>
    Re: Strange output from three arrays defined in one sta <somebody@foobar.xxx>
    Re: While loops and arrays <islaw@adexec.com>
    Re: Win32::OLE (Graham Smith)
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 18:53:19 +1000
From: Cat <cat@no-spam.com>
Subject: Re: awstats ignores HostAliases if using %virtualname
Message-Id: <3ECDE17F.E721523D@no-spam.com>

gooze wrote:
> 
> Now my question: Does somebody know awstats?
> 


http://awstats.sourceforge.net/

Or maybe try posting to  alt.unix.wizards

good luck


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:32:31 GMT
From: "Islaw" <islaw@adexec.com>
Subject: Re: calling an exe file
Message-Id: <zvhza.112$af7.13159609@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>

Bernard El-Hagin wrote:
> Islaw wrote:
>
>> w i l l wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 May 2003 23:19:52 GMT, "Anthony" <johnsmith@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am still a newie to perl
>>>> How do i run an exe. Is there a command.
>>>>
>>>> once the script is finished running
>>>> i need to alert an application that files are waiting in c:\test.
>>>> The application has an exe test.exe and will pick the waiting
>>>> files in c:\test. How do i call the test.exe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> tony
>>>>
>>>
>>> system('c:/test/test.exe');
>>
>>
>> Or if the output is needed to be captured:
>>
>> my $out = `c:/test/text.exe 2>&1
>
>
>
> Closing the quote will help substantially.
>
>
> :-)

Indeed, thanks for pointing that out. Even dumb mistakes can lesser
experienced the wrong idea sometimes. I shall watch that ;-p

--
Islaw




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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:35:55 GMT
From: "Islaw" <islaw@adexec.com>
Subject: Re: calling an exe file
Message-Id: <Lyhza.114$6l7.13517087@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>

Islaw wrote:
> Allanon wrote:
>> "Islaw" <islaw@adexec.com> wrote in message
>> news:bhFya.4663$YS4.3391@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>> [..]
>>> Or if the output is needed to be captured:
>>>
>>> my $out = `c:/test/text.exe 2>&1`
>>
>> That's useful to know :)
>>
>> Can you explain what the "2>&1" bit actually means/does char-by-char.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Allanon
>
> In a nutshell, it ensures all output is caputured (STDOUT and STDERR.)
>
> Can even be used to redirect both of those STDs (no wise cracks) to a
> file:
>
>    `c:/test/text.exe 2>&1 > out.txt`;

And see Thomas' post for a good description too!

--
Islaw




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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:38:55 GMT
From: "Islaw" <islaw@adexec.com>
Subject: Re: calling an exe file
Message-Id: <zBhza.116$Uj7.13446323@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>

Allanon wrote:
> "Thomas Kratz" <ThomasKratz@REMOVEwebCAPS.de> wrote in message
> news:3ecbc2ab.0@juno.wiesbaden.netsurf.de...
>>
>> "Allanon" <allanon@hotmail.com> wrote...
>>> "Islaw" <islaw@adexec.com> wrote in message
>>> news:bhFya.4663$YS4.3391@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com...
>>> [..]
>>>> Or if the output is needed to be captured:
>>>>
>>>> `c:/test/text.exe 2>&1`
>>>
>>> That's useful to know :)
>>>
>>> Can you explain what the "2>&1" bit actually means/does
>>> char-by-char.
>>
>> Unix shells (*and* the cmd shell under win32) treat numbers in
>> connection
> with piping or redirection symbols as descriptors for stdin(0),
> stdout(1) and stderr(2).
>>
>> The above means "redirect what's sent to stderr to the same place
>> where
> stdout is sent". And by capturing the output with backticks you will
> get both stdout and stderr from running test.exe.
>
> I see.. kind-of (goes off to find out what backticks are ;)
>
> Thanks
>
> Allanon

In Perl (and I believe in general, unix-wise) `` are used for running na
external application much like system(), whereas you can snag the output to
a variable:

   my $out = `c:/test/text.exe 2>&1`;

Of course this can be done with system as well, just send the output to a
file and read it in Perl.

--
Islaw




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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:44:31 GMT
From: "Islaw" <islaw@adexec.com>
Subject: Re: calling an exe file
Message-Id: <PGhza.118$nq7.13832411@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>

Eric J. Roode wrote:
> -----BEGIN xxx SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> "Islaw" <islaw@adexec.com> wrote in news:bhFya.4663$YS4.3391
> @newssvr17.news.prodigy.com:
>
>> Or if the output is needed to be captured:
>>
>> my $out = `c:/test/text.exe 2>&1
>
> Somehow I expect that "2>&1" won't work under Windows.


While I normally use Perl under Linux, I have a version on windows (XP-Pro)
(activestate) and thus was able to do a test:

> perl -e "print \"hello\n\";" 2>&1 > test.out

Wrote everything to the file just fine.

> perl --help 2>&1 > test.out

That too.

NT based systems seem to be fine with it, not sure about 9x boxes though.

--
Islaw




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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:02:26 GMT
From: helgi@decode.is (Helgi Briem)
Subject: Re: Copying all files in a directory
Message-Id: <3ecde330.3694257581@news.cis.dfn.de>

On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:12:44 +0000 (UTC), mjd@plover.com
(Mark Jason Dominus) wrote:

>In article <3eccd69d.3625496618@news.cis.dfn.de>,
>Helgi Briem <helgi@decode.is> wrote:
>>Well, as our occasionally resident guru, Mark Jason Dominus,
>>once said:
>>
>>"#11901 You can't just make s**t up and expect the computer 
>>to know what you mean, R******!"
>
>I did not.  I said
>
>#11901 You can't just make shit up and expect the computer 
>       to know what you mean, Retardo!
>
>If you find the words 'shit' and 'Retardo' too offensive to utter,
>then perhaps you should not be quoting my offensive remark.
>
What can I say?  I'm squeamish. 
I apologise for misrepresenting you.
-- 
Regards, Helgi Briem
helgi DOT briem AT decode DOT is


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 19:35:41 +1000
From: Cat <cat@no-spam.com>
Subject: Re: day of week
Message-Id: <3ECDEB6D.554A9D55@no-spam.com>

Garry Williams wrote:
> 
>       my $then = timelocal 0, 0, 0, $da, $mm - 1, $yr + 2000;
> 


???  Year is the number of years since 1900, therefore shouldn't it be

       my $then = timelocal 0, 0, 0, $da, $mm - 1, $yr + 100;

Because $yr is two digits (eg 03).
  $yr + 100 = 103

  therefore
  year = 1900 + 103 = 2003


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:30:47 GMT
From: Eric Wilhelm <ericw@nospam.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: extract pattern
Message-Id: <pan.2003.05.22.23.27.33.868185.10673@nospam.ku.edu>

On Thu, 22 May 2003 21:09:47 -0500, Sara wrote:

> vaidehi_30@yahoo.com (vaidehi) wrote in message
> news:<b20ff12f.0305221456.7e72faa2@posting.google.com>...
>> I have got strings like this one:
>> 1: 196.37.75.158:1024 - 10.10.1.12:79 (a2b)             6>    6<
>> (complete)

> * or lots of others?

if it always has spaces in the same places:

$result = join(" ",(split(/\s+/, $string)[1..3]);
use list context and range addressing
(and make it a little more clear what you mean than a hairy regex)

to break the data down into finer bits, just use /:|\s+/ or whatever and
maybe save to an array

--Eric


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:21:44 GMT
From: <foobear@nospam.net>
Subject: Re: help me with these guts
Message-Id: <slhza.110$m53.13016@petpeeve.ziplink.net>

Sara <genericax@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>         if ($source == NULL) { 
> better written
>       unless ($source)

> Not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but on the surface it looks
> like you're a c-programmer who is trying to make his Perl look as much
> like c as you can. I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing, but

This is XS code.

perldoc perlxs


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:02:24 GMT
From: "Gregory Toomey" <nobody@noplace.com>
Subject: Re: Info files?
Message-Id: <01c320e1$bc0b6660$fd498a90@gmtoomey>

Mike Ballard <dont_w@nt_spam.org> wrote in article
<m2of1u8jk8.fsf@west_f1.net>...
> 
> Hi - 
> 
> Anyone know where (or if) I can get Info files for the latest Perl? 
> 

http://perldoc.com/ ??

gtoomey


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Date: 23 May 2003 09:36:19 GMT
From: Martin Schweikert <MartinSchweikert@gmx.de>
Subject: Lookahead: find empty line(s) or $
Message-Id: <Xns9384760E2D847MartinSchweikertgmxd@130.133.1.4>

Hi!

I would like to find empty lines or '$' characters in a lookahead 
expression. Finding empty lines or a '$' character in separate 
expressions is easy:

(?=\n{2,}) finds one or more empty lines
(?=\$)     finds a '$' character

This works so far.

But now I want to say: "find one or more empty line or a '$' character" 
in one statement.

I tried variants of

(?=[\n{2,}\$])       '$' is found correctly, but introducing the [] 
causes \n{2,} to match a single \n instead of 2 or more.

(?=\n{2,})(?=\$)     finds nothing at all; the expression (?=)(?=) I have 
seen in some example code does not work for me, it seems.

(?=\n{2,}|\$)        finds the empty line, but not the '$' character

((?=\n{2,})|(?=\$))  same as previous


In case that the content matters, I'm using this piece of code:

----------
use strict;
undef $/;
open (TEXT, 'foo.txt');
while (<TEXT>) {
    while ( /\$(\d+)\/(\d+)\$(.*?)(<expression wanted>)/gs ) {
	print "$1-$2: $3\n";
    }    
}
----------

The input looks like

----------
asdasdf

$1/11$ aaa aaaaaaaa aaa a aaaaaaaa aa $1/12$ bbbbbbb bb bbbbbbb b bbb bb

$1/13$ cccccc ccccc cc c 
ccccccccc cc $1/14$ dddddddd dddddd dddd
dddddddd ddddd
----------

What I would like to see is:

----------
1-11: aaa aaaaaaaa aaa a aaaaaaaa aa
1-12: bbbbbbb bb bbbbbbb b bbb bb
1-13: cccccc ccccc cc c ccccccccc cc
1-14: dddddddd dddddd dddddddddddd ddddd
----------

Help!

Regards,
Martin
-- 
http://www.martin-schweikert.de


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:42:50 GMT
From: "Alan Watson" <waty@powerup.com.au>
Subject: o conf urllist
Message-Id: <ealza.1983$iv4.22195@news-server.bigpond.net.au>

I can't seem to reset the default ftp site in CPAN. Can anyone tell me how?
I think the command is something like:

o conf urllist

Thanks,

Alan




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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 02:24:53 -0500
From: tadmc@augustmail.com
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.4 $)
Message-Id: <Dgudne5DBLFYUVCjXTWcqQ@august.net>

Outline
   Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
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       - Check the Perl Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
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      Really Really Should
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      If You Like
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   Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Is there a better place to ask your question?
       - Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
      How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
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       - Use an effective followup style
       - Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
       - Ask perl to help you
       - Do not re-type Perl code
       - Provide enough information
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       - Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
      Social faux pas to avoid
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       - Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
      Be extra cautious when you get upset
       - Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
       - Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
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        will ignore such requests anyway. If you munge your address, you
        should never expect (or ask) to get email in response to a Usenet
        post.

        Ask the question here, get the answer here (maybe).

    Beware of saying "doesn't work"
        This is a "red flag" phrase. If you find yourself writing that,
        pause and see if you can't describe what is not working without
        saying "doesn't work". That is, describe how it is not what you
        want.

    Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
        A "stealth Cc" is when you both email and post a reply without
        indicating *in the body* that you are doing so.

  Be extra cautious when you get upset
    Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
        This is recommended in all Usenet newsgroups. Here in clpmisc, most
        flaming sub-threads are not about any feature of Perl at all! They
        are most often for what was seen as a breach of netiquette. If you
        have lurked for a bit, then you will know what is expected and won't
        make such posts in the first place.

        But if you get upset, wait a while before writing your followup. I
        recommend waiting at least 30 minutes.

    Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
        After you have written your followup, wait *another* 30 minutes
        before committing yourself by posting it. You cannot take it back
        once it has been said.

AUTHOR
    Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> and many others on the
    comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.



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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 05:47:28 GMT
From: "John W. Krahn" <krahnj@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Problem with Addition - doesn't interpret as a number?
Message-Id: <3ECDB5DD.2084B879@acm.org>

Bob Walton wrote:
> 
> You don't say what your OS is, or to what device your output is being
> sent.  My guess is that $array[13] contains one or more leading
> non-printing control characters which are both preventing the string
> from being interpreted as a number and also are not showing up on your
> output.  You could try removing any such characters, perhaps with
> something like:
> 
>      $array[13]=~y/\000-\037//d;
> 
> prior to your prints and see if the behavior changes.

This looks better and might even work better.  :-)

      $array[13] =~ y/0-9.-//cd;



John
-- 
use Perl;
program
fulfillment


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 05:51:03 +0200
From: "Janek Schleicher" <bigj@kamelfreund.de>
Subject: Re: Problem with Addition - doesn't interpret as a number?
Message-Id: <pan.2003.05.23.03.48.07.143938@kamelfreund.de>

John W. Krahn wrote at Fri, 23 May 2003 05:47:28 +0000:

>> You don't say what your OS is, or to what device your output is being
>> sent.  My guess is that $array[13] contains one or more leading
>> non-printing control characters which are both preventing the string
>> from being interpreted as a number and also are not showing up on your
>> output.  You could try removing any such characters, perhaps with
>> something like:
>> 
>>      $array[13]=~y/\000-\037//d;
>> 
>> prior to your prints and see if the behavior changes.
> 
> This looks better and might even work better.  :-)
> 
>       $array[13] =~ y/0-9.-//cd;

Talking about readability, I would add

$array[13] =~ s/[[:cntrl:]]//g;


Greetings,
Janek


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Date: 23 May 2003 00:41:02 -0500
From: "darthtampon" <wenjoh26@EMAIL.pct.edu>
Subject: reading javascript arrays
Message-Id: <3ecdb46e$1_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com>


i have tried everything. All the books i have dont help either. can somebody
give me an example of perl code reading a javascript array.




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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 10:34:24 +0100
From: "Allanon" <allanon@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: reading javascript arrays
Message-Id: <bakpv1$m8i@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>

"darthtampon" <wenjoh26@EMAIL.pct.edu> wrote in message
news:3ecdb46e$1_2@corp-news.newsgroups.com...
>
> i have tried everything. All the books i have dont help either. can
somebody
> give me an example of perl code reading a javascript array.

Pass the array to Perl via the query string.

Eg:

function summonCGI()
{
     var myArray = new Array(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9);
     var myString = myArray.join(',');  // convert array to string
     eval('document.location.href = "/cgi-bin/myperlscript.cgi?' + myString
+ '"');
}

<a href="javascript:summonCGI()">Click here</a>

Then, in myperlscript.cgi:

myString = @ARGV[0];
myArray = split /,/, myString; # convert string back to array


Allanon




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Date: 23 May 2003 01:20:36 -0700
From: dwlepage@yahoo.com (david)
Subject: Re: Regexp Multiple Matching Problem
Message-Id: <b09a22ae.0305230020.2e113643@posting.google.com>

jonasb@alum.rpi.edu (Big Brother) wrote in message news:<79c1dbe1.0305211051.687aebe6@posting.google.com>...
> Hi -
> 
> I am writing a script that parses through a file line by line to
> search for IP addresses (it's to make syslog files available in HTML
> with the IPs highlighted). I've got the code working for the first IP
> on each line, but it never goes on to match if there is a second IP on
> the line. So I have...
> if($_=~/IPmatchingregexp/)
> {
>     do stuff
> }
> 
> I tried replacing the if with a while, but it seems to go into an
> infinite loop. Can anyone help me on how do basically do a:
> foreach(matched regexp)? I want to run the "do stuff" code for each IP
> on the line, not just the first.
> 
> Thanks!
> B

I may be dense, but if you post some sample data that would be much more helpful.


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:22:27 GMT
From: "Warrick FitzGerald" <subs.nntp.wfitzgerald@crtman.com>
Subject: Re: Scalar String concatination not working
Message-Id: <7mhza.5332$Pz3.4247879@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>


> 
> "42\r" =~ /(.*)/; # $1="42\r"
> print $1."\n"; # print 42
> print $1."zz\n"; # print 42 then overwrite it with zz
> 
> Does that explain what you are seeing?

Thanks Brian, you are a STAR :)

You were correct. Sorry everyone else, I will provide a better example
next time. I could not provide the real URL in this example as the
domain resolves to a private IP Address.

Thanks
Warrick



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Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 23:15:39 -0700
From: who me? <somebody@foobar.xxx>
Subject: Re: Strange output from three arrays defined in one statement.   Can anyone explain?
Message-Id: <d0frcvg06ffh9apm3p9k7i4jkokdms75hp@4ax.com>

Thank you,Chad and Abigail.  I should have caught that myself.


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Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 04:28:29 GMT
From: "Islaw" <islaw@adexec.com>
Subject: Re: While loops and arrays
Message-Id: <Nrhza.110$7i7.13331599@newssvr15.news.prodigy.com>

Thomas Kratz wrote:
> "Andres Monroy-Hernandez" <andres@monroy.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:3591b31a.0305202017.7320289e@posting.google.com...
>> One way to do it (remember TMTOWTDI) is to create a temporary array
>> for every cycle of the while loop. After each cycle, append the
>> temporary array to the global array @data.
>>
>> It would be something like:
>>
>> use strict;
>> my @data;
>> while(<FILE>){
>>     my @tmp = split /,/;
>>     push(@tmp, @data);
>
> Surely you mean:
>
> push(@data, @tmp);
>
> Or using and array of arrays as others have suggested:
>
> push(@data, \@tmp);

Yes, if memory serves, the former just tacks the elements in @tmp to the end
of @data resulting in one big array in the form of @data.

The latter woudl seem the logical choice for keeping a row context (as you
noted.)

>> }
>>
>> print "@data";
>>
>> This will print all the elements captured by the while loop.
>>
>> By the way, always work with "use strict" enabled.
>
> And test code before you post it ;-)

To the OP: You may want to see my other post in this tread for some tested
code (5.6.1)

--
Islaw




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Date: 22 May 2003 23:44:51 -0700
From: grehom@ntlworld.com (Graham Smith)
Subject: Re: Win32::OLE
Message-Id: <98eb7f13.0305222244.7a456921@posting.google.com>

Thanks Brian the VT_BYREF|VT_R8 worked perfectly, in fact when I
looked up the VT_BYREF in the Win32::OLE::Variant documentation there
was an example for getting x & y coordinates from a Corel Draw OLE
Server :o , I should have read everything in the documentation before
pestering everyone.

Brian McCauley <nobull@mail.com> wrote in message news:<u9u1bmzu69.fsf@wcl-l.bham.ac.uk>...
> grehom@ntlworld.com (Graham Smith) writes:
> 
> > I am trying to use OLE to automate plotting points in DesignCAD to
> > save laboriously typing in each coordinate and have got stuck
> > translating the following bit of Visual Basic
> > 
> >     DcPts.GetUserPoint X, Y, Z
> > 
> > I have tried the following:
> > 
> >     my $x = Variant(VT_R8, 0.0);
> >     my $y = Variant(VT_R8, 0.0);
> >     my $z = Variant(VT_R8, 0.0);
> > 
> >     $DcPts->GetUserPoint($x, $y, $z)
> > 	or die( "Unable to get user point ", Win32::OLE->LastError() );
> >     print "x=$x, y=$y, z=$z\n";
> >
> 
> Since you are trying to get values back you need VT_BYREF in there.
>  
> > The problem is when the code runs it returns the following error:
> > 
> > 	C:\perlSrcs\DesignCad>perl -w draw_points_rel.pl u 5 r 5 d 5 l 5
> > 	Win32::OLE(0.1603) error 0x80020005: "Type mismatch"
> > 	    in METHOD/PROPERTYGET "GetUserPoint" argument 1 at
> > draw_points_rel.pl line 91
> > 
> > The OLE Browser documents the function as follows:
> > 
> >     Function GetUserPoint(dX As Double, dY As Double, dZ As Double) As
> > Boolean Member of DesignCAD.CmdPoints
> 
> Well double should ve VT_R8 alright, so try VT_BYREF|VT_R8
> 
> Note I have an unpolished module that simplifies the
> Win32::OLE::Variant interface:.
> 
>   $DcPts->GetUserPoint(ByRef([VT_R8], my($x, $y, $z) = (0,0,0)));
>   # $x, $y, $z are now plain numbers not Win32::OLE::Variant
> 
> -------------------
> package Local::Win32::OLE::Varients;
> use strict;
> use warnings;
> use Carp;
> 
> use Win32::OLE::Variant;
> 
> require Exporter;
> our(@ISA) = qw(Exporter);
> our(@EXPORT) = qw(ByRef Variants);
> 
> # We can't subclass Win32::OLE::Variant so we must hook into its 
> # destructor
> 
> my $oDESTROY = \&Win32::OLE::Variant::DESTROY;
> my %tie;
> 
> sub ByRef { 
>     unshift @_ => [ VT_DISPATCH ]
> 	unless ref $_[0] eq 'ARRAY';
>     unshift @_ => VT_BYREF;
>     &_variants;
> }
> 
> sub Variants {
>     unshift @_ => 0;
>     &_variants;
> }
> 
> sub _variants { 
>     my $byref = shift;
>     my $types = shift;
>     my @result;
>     for my $arg ( \ (@_) ) {
> 	my $type = $types->[0] | $byref;
> 	my $variant = Variant( $type, $$arg);
> 	$tie{overload::StrVal $variant} = $arg
> 	    if $type & $byref;
> 	push @result => $variant;
> 	shift @$types if @$types > 1;
>     }
>     unless (wantarray) {
> 	croak((caller 0)[3] . "() in scalar context with multiple arguments")
> 	    if @result > 1;
> 	return $result[0];
>     }
>  @result;
> };
> 
> no warnings 'redefine';
> 
> *Win32::OLE::Variant::DESTROY = sub {
>     if ( my $var = delete $tie{overload::StrVal $_[0]} ) {
> 	$$var = $_[0]->Value;
>     }
>  &$oDESTROY; 
> };
> 
> 1;


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