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Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:10:09 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 5 May 2003 Volume: 10 Number: 4937
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Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Whats wrong with that? (Math55)
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Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 12:31:50 -0000
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <vbcmdms255ga38@corp.supernews.com>
Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 28 Apr 2003 12:34:05 GMT and ending at
05 May 2003 11:51:37 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" email address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 2003 Greg Bacon.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Excluded Posters
================
perlfaq-suggestions\@(?:.*\.)?perl\.com
faq\@(?:.*\.)?denver\.pm\.org
comdog\@panix\.com
Totals
======
Posters: 232
Articles: 691 (251 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 175
Volume generated: 1339.4 kb
- headers: 606.9 kb (11,512 lines)
- bodies: 700.3 kb (23,819 lines)
- original: 420.9 kb (15,446 lines)
- signatures: 31.6 kb (807 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.601
Averages
========
Posts per poster: 3.0
median: 2.0 posts
mode: 1 post - 105 posters
s: 4.0 posts
Posts per thread: 3.9
median: 3 posts
mode: 1 post - 52 threads
s: 4.9 posts
Message size: 1984.9 bytes
- header: 899.3 bytes (16.7 lines)
- body: 1037.7 bytes (34.5 lines)
- original: 623.8 bytes (22.4 lines)
- signature: 46.8 bytes (1.2 lines)
Top 20 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------
25 79.0 ( 28.1/ 47.7/ 40.9) tadmc@augustmail.com
19 32.3 ( 14.4/ 17.8/ 6.1) Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
17 27.9 ( 15.2/ 11.6/ 5.3) Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
17 28.0 ( 15.2/ 12.8/ 6.2) "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
17 37.5 ( 14.5/ 22.7/ 8.6) Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
16 31.8 ( 16.0/ 15.7/ 12.8) William Goedicke <goedicke@goedsole.com>
13 24.6 ( 12.3/ 9.3/ 3.8) Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
12 22.9 ( 10.7/ 12.2/ 4.6) "Michael P. Broida" <michael.p.broida@boeing.com>
11 16.5 ( 10.3/ 6.1/ 3.6) Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@pandora.be>
11 25.6 ( 11.1/ 12.6/ 7.1) Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
10 20.8 ( 8.5/ 12.2/ 5.0) sholden@cs.usyd.edu.au
10 25.1 ( 11.3/ 13.6/ 8.8) "Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net>
10 32.4 ( 9.5/ 20.7/ 13.1) tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
10 21.5 ( 7.6/ 12.1/ 3.6) "Nico Coetzee" <abuse@mweb.co.za>
9 15.2 ( 7.5/ 6.1/ 6.1) abigail@abigail.nl
9 21.9 ( 8.9/ 10.9/ 8.4) "Tony" <anthony@movielink.net.au>
9 17.1 ( 8.3/ 8.8/ 3.9) zenskin at optonline dot net
8 13.8 ( 5.9/ 7.9/ 3.3) "Sisyphus" <kalinabears@hdc.com.au>
7 13.0 ( 4.3/ 8.7/ 5.3) Malcolm Dew-Jones <yf110@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca>
7 10.5 ( 5.9/ 4.6/ 2.1) "James E Keenan" <jkeen@concentric.net>
These posters accounted for 35.7% of all articles.
Top 20 Posters by Number of Followups
=====================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Followups Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
--------- -------------------------- -------
23 79.0 ( 28.1/ 47.7/ 40.9) tadmc@augustmail.com
19 32.3 ( 14.4/ 17.8/ 6.1) Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
17 37.5 ( 14.5/ 22.7/ 8.6) Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
17 28.0 ( 15.2/ 12.8/ 6.2) "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
17 27.9 ( 15.2/ 11.6/ 5.3) Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
15 31.8 ( 16.0/ 15.7/ 12.8) William Goedicke <goedicke@goedsole.com>
13 24.6 ( 12.3/ 9.3/ 3.8) Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
12 22.9 ( 10.7/ 12.2/ 4.6) "Michael P. Broida" <michael.p.broida@boeing.com>
11 16.5 ( 10.3/ 6.1/ 3.6) Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@pandora.be>
11 25.6 ( 11.1/ 12.6/ 7.1) Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
10 25.1 ( 11.3/ 13.6/ 8.8) "Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net>
10 20.8 ( 8.5/ 12.2/ 5.0) sholden@cs.usyd.edu.au
10 32.4 ( 9.5/ 20.7/ 13.1) tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
9 17.1 ( 8.3/ 8.8/ 3.9) zenskin at optonline dot net
9 15.2 ( 7.5/ 6.1/ 6.1) abigail@abigail.nl
8 13.8 ( 5.9/ 7.9/ 3.3) "Sisyphus" <kalinabears@hdc.com.au>
8 21.5 ( 7.6/ 12.1/ 3.6) "Nico Coetzee" <abuse@mweb.co.za>
7 11.6 ( 5.7/ 5.8/ 3.8) "Janek Schleicher" <bigj@kamelfreund.de>
7 10.5 ( 5.9/ 4.6/ 2.1) "James E Keenan" <jkeen@concentric.net>
7 13.8 ( 7.4/ 6.3/ 2.7) Winfried Koenig <w.koenig@acm.org>
These posters accounted for 43.6% of all followups.
Top 20 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
79.0 ( 28.1/ 47.7/ 40.9) 25 tadmc@augustmail.com
37.5 ( 14.5/ 22.7/ 8.6) 17 Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
32.4 ( 9.5/ 20.7/ 13.1) 10 tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
32.3 ( 14.4/ 17.8/ 6.1) 19 Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
31.8 ( 16.0/ 15.7/ 12.8) 16 William Goedicke <goedicke@goedsole.com>
28.0 ( 15.2/ 12.8/ 6.2) 17 "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
27.9 ( 15.2/ 11.6/ 5.3) 17 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
25.6 ( 11.1/ 12.6/ 7.1) 11 Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
25.1 ( 11.3/ 13.6/ 8.8) 10 "Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net>
24.6 ( 12.3/ 9.3/ 3.8) 13 Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
22.9 ( 10.7/ 12.2/ 4.6) 12 "Michael P. Broida" <michael.p.broida@boeing.com>
21.9 ( 8.9/ 10.9/ 8.4) 9 "Tony" <anthony@movielink.net.au>
21.5 ( 7.6/ 12.1/ 3.6) 10 "Nico Coetzee" <abuse@mweb.co.za>
20.8 ( 8.5/ 12.2/ 5.0) 10 sholden@cs.usyd.edu.au
17.1 ( 8.3/ 8.8/ 3.9) 9 zenskin at optonline dot net
17.1 ( 7.1/ 10.0/ 5.5) 7 olczyk@interaccess.com
16.5 ( 10.3/ 6.1/ 3.6) 11 Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@pandora.be>
15.2 ( 7.5/ 6.1/ 6.1) 9 abigail@abigail.nl
14.8 ( 1.7/ 13.1/ 4.5) 2 "Clyde Ingram" <cingram@pjocsNOSPAMORHAM.demon.co.uk>
14.5 ( 5.7/ 7.9/ 4.0) 6 mgjv@tradingpost.com.au
These posters accounted for 39.3% of the total volume.
Top 14 Posters by Volume of Original Content (min. ten posts)
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(kb)
Posts orig Address
----- ----- -------
25 40.9 tadmc@augustmail.com
10 13.1 tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
16 12.8 William Goedicke <goedicke@goedsole.com>
10 8.8 "Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net>
17 8.6 Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
11 7.1 Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
17 6.2 "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
19 6.1 Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
17 5.3 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
10 5.0 sholden@cs.usyd.edu.au
12 4.6 "Michael P. Broida" <michael.p.broida@boeing.com>
13 3.8 Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
10 3.6 "Nico Coetzee" <abuse@mweb.co.za>
11 3.6 Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@pandora.be>
These posters accounted for 30.8% of the original volume.
Top 14 Posters by OCR (minimum of ten posts)
============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.858 ( 40.9 / 47.7) 25 tadmc@augustmail.com
0.817 ( 12.8 / 15.7) 16 William Goedicke <goedicke@goedsole.com>
0.646 ( 8.8 / 13.6) 10 "Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net>
0.631 ( 13.1 / 20.7) 10 tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
0.583 ( 3.6 / 6.1) 11 Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@pandora.be>
0.566 ( 7.1 / 12.6) 11 Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
0.486 ( 6.2 / 12.8) 17 "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
0.460 ( 5.3 / 11.6) 17 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
0.407 ( 5.0 / 12.2) 10 sholden@cs.usyd.edu.au
0.406 ( 3.8 / 9.3) 13 Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
0.381 ( 4.6 / 12.2) 12 "Michael P. Broida" <michael.p.broida@boeing.com>
0.381 ( 8.6 / 22.7) 17 Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
0.343 ( 6.1 / 17.8) 19 Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
0.296 ( 3.6 / 12.1) 10 "Nico Coetzee" <abuse@mweb.co.za>
Bottom 14 Posters by OCR (minimum of ten posts)
===============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.858 ( 40.9 / 47.7) 25 tadmc@augustmail.com
0.817 ( 12.8 / 15.7) 16 William Goedicke <goedicke@goedsole.com>
0.646 ( 8.8 / 13.6) 10 "Eric J. Roode" <REMOVEsdnCAPS@comcast.net>
0.631 ( 13.1 / 20.7) 10 tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de
0.583 ( 3.6 / 6.1) 11 Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@pandora.be>
0.566 ( 7.1 / 12.6) 11 Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
0.486 ( 6.2 / 12.8) 17 "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
0.460 ( 5.3 / 11.6) 17 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <noreply@gunnar.cc>
0.407 ( 5.0 / 12.2) 10 sholden@cs.usyd.edu.au
0.406 ( 3.8 / 9.3) 13 Uri Guttman <uri@stemsystems.com>
0.381 ( 4.6 / 12.2) 12 "Michael P. Broida" <michael.p.broida@boeing.com>
0.381 ( 8.6 / 22.7) 17 Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
0.343 ( 6.1 / 17.8) 19 Anno Siegel <anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
0.296 ( 3.6 / 12.1) 10 "Nico Coetzee" <abuse@mweb.co.za>
14 posters (6%) had at least ten posts.
Top 20 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================
Posts Subject
----- -------
27 What is the best software to run for an aspiring Perl programer?
22 Is it possible to pass @somethig and $something_else to sub
20 Perl Editor : Whats Recommended
17 waste of time
15 Compare Lists - built in Function?
14 Elegant test for A in B OR B in A?
12 Forms structure
11 complex text/file search. help please!!!
11 $::var notation
11 errors passing values to sub from other sub with "use strict"
10 Sort array of numbers
9 Get somthing between ( ) from a long string - how - newbie Q
9 Passing hash and string to subroutine
9 built in function 'map' examples?
9 books from beginner to guru - reading order
9 Subtracting strings [long post]
9 problems finding an RPM - what is PLD?
9 Comparing strings with small differences
8 regex with /\G .. /gc
8 Perl - DBI - How to store connection info in a separate file
These threads accounted for 36.0% of all articles.
Top 20 Threads by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------
58.4 ( 26.9/ 30.3/ 16.3) 27 What is the best software to run for an aspiring Perl programer?
49.2 ( 23.6/ 23.8/ 12.3) 22 Is it possible to pass @somethig and $something_else to sub
39.1 ( 17.6/ 20.7/ 11.1) 20 Perl Editor : Whats Recommended
33.8 ( 1.9/ 32.0/ 32.0) 2 Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.4 $)
29.2 ( 14.1/ 14.3/ 6.3) 17 waste of time
28.7 ( 11.4/ 16.4/ 8.7) 12 Forms structure
26.6 ( 9.5/ 16.4/ 8.7) 11 complex text/file search. help please!!!
25.6 ( 7.0/ 18.4/ 13.9) 8 code optimization and readability
24.4 ( 11.5/ 11.5/ 6.0) 14 Elegant test for A in B OR B in A?
24.2 ( 6.7/ 17.5/ 3.2) 7 Newbie Problem: Cannot see result of .pl
23.2 ( 13.5/ 9.0/ 4.0) 15 Compare Lists - built in Function?
23.2 ( 11.0/ 10.6/ 6.8) 11 errors passing values to sub from other sub with "use strict"
21.9 ( 4.6/ 17.0/ 7.2) 6 basic doubts..
21.8 ( 7.1/ 14.6/ 7.9) 9 Subtracting strings [long post]
21.2 ( 6.2/ 15.0/ 8.0) 8 regex with /\G .. /gc
18.6 ( 8.5/ 10.0/ 3.5) 9 Comparing strings with small differences
18.5 ( 8.1/ 10.0/ 5.3) 9 Get somthing between ( ) from a long string - how - newbie Q
18.3 ( 6.4/ 11.5/ 5.4) 8 Perl - DBI - How to store connection info in a separate file
16.5 ( 7.7/ 8.4/ 6.0) 9 books from beginner to guru - reading order
16.4 ( 8.6/ 7.6/ 5.8) 9 problems finding an RPM - what is PLD?
These threads accounted for 40.2% of the total volume.
Top 11 Threads by OCR (minimum of ten posts)
============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.640 ( 6.8/ 10.6) 11 errors passing values to sub from other sub with "use strict"
0.575 ( 3.6/ 6.2) 10 Sort array of numbers
0.568 ( 2.8/ 4.9) 11 $::var notation
0.538 ( 16.3/ 30.3) 27 What is the best software to run for an aspiring Perl programer?
0.534 ( 11.1/ 20.7) 20 Perl Editor : Whats Recommended
0.531 ( 8.7/ 16.4) 12 Forms structure
0.530 ( 8.7/ 16.4) 11 complex text/file search. help please!!!
0.521 ( 6.0/ 11.5) 14 Elegant test for A in B OR B in A?
0.515 ( 12.3/ 23.8) 22 Is it possible to pass @somethig and $something_else to sub
0.449 ( 4.0/ 9.0) 15 Compare Lists - built in Function?
0.444 ( 6.3/ 14.3) 17 waste of time
Bottom 11 Threads by OCR (minimum of ten posts)
===============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.640 ( 6.8 / 10.6) 11 errors passing values to sub from other sub with "use strict"
0.575 ( 3.6 / 6.2) 10 Sort array of numbers
0.568 ( 2.8 / 4.9) 11 $::var notation
0.538 ( 16.3 / 30.3) 27 What is the best software to run for an aspiring Perl programer?
0.534 ( 11.1 / 20.7) 20 Perl Editor : Whats Recommended
0.531 ( 8.7 / 16.4) 12 Forms structure
0.530 ( 8.7 / 16.4) 11 complex text/file search. help please!!!
0.521 ( 6.0 / 11.5) 14 Elegant test for A in B OR B in A?
0.515 ( 12.3 / 23.8) 22 Is it possible to pass @somethig and $something_else to sub
0.449 ( 4.0 / 9.0) 15 Compare Lists - built in Function?
0.444 ( 6.3 / 14.3) 17 waste of time
11 threads (6%) had at least ten posts.
Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
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Articles Newsgroup
-------- ---------
14 alt.perl
6 alt.apache.configuration
5 comp.lang.perl.modules
5 comp.lang.perl.moderated
2 alt.os.windows-xp
2 alt.windows-xp
2 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
2 comp.lang.javascript
1 fr.comp.lang.perl
1 comp.lang.perl
Top 20 Crossposters
===================
Articles Address
-------- -------
4 Winfried Koenig <w.koenig@acm.org>
4 "Kurtis D. Rader" <krader@skepticism.us>
4 "alex" <ntnewsNOSPAM@hrz3.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de>
3 "Chris Priede" <priede@panix.com>
3 "dpm" <danmurph@att.net>
3 Marshall Dudley <mdudley@execonn.com>
2 sholden@cs.usyd.edu.au
2 Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
1 "Harald H.-J. Bongartz" <bongie@gmx.net>
1 "Jürgen Exner" <jurgenex@hotmail.com>
1 "Sebastien B." <sebastienb@nospam.nospam>
1 NoJunkMailshah@xnet.com
1 serge.john.swilting@wanadoo.fr
1 Big and Blue <No_4@dsl.pipex.com>
1 Eric Schwartz <emschwar@pobox.com>
1 Iain <iain@hythemickey.net>
1 Juha Laiho <Juha.Laiho@iki.fi>
1 Josef =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6llers?= <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
1 Randal L. Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com>
1 Simon Andrews <simon.andrews@bbsrc.ac.uk>
--
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and
deserve to get it good and hard.
-- H. L. Mencken
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Date: 5 May 2003 04:27:05 -0700
From: magelord@t-online.de (Math55)
Subject: Whats wrong with that?
Message-Id: <a2b8188a.0305050327.382fa6aa@posting.google.com>
hello,
i wrote a little programm (see below) and it runs under windows. when
i try to start it under Debian it stops with this message:
parent element "/HOMESCR/HOME" does not exist at /usr/lib/perl5/Tk.pm
line 228.
what could be wrong? THANKS
code:
use Tk;
require Tk::HList;
$top = MainWindow->new(-title=>"eSelector");
$h = $top->Scrolled('HList',
'-drawbranch' => 1, #eventuell ein l und
keine eins
'-separator' => '/',
'-indent' => 15,
'-command' => \&show_or_hide_dir,
)->pack('-fill' => 'both',
'-expand' => 'y');
$icons{"open"} = $top->Bitmap(-file => './open_folder.xbm');
$icons{"closed"} = $top->Bitmap(-file => './folder.xbm');
#show_or_hide_dir("c:");
show_or_hide_dir(@ARGV);
#show_or_hide_dir("p:");
MainLoop();
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------
sub show_or_hide_dir { # Called when an entry is double-clicked
my $path = $_[0];
return if (! -d $path); # Not a directory.
if ($h->info('exists', $path)) {
# Toggle the directory state.
# We know that a directory is open by examining the next
# entry: it is open if it is a substring of the current path
$next_entry = $h->info('next', $path);
if (!$next_entry || (index ($next_entry, "$path/") == -1)) {
# No. open it
$h->entryconfigure($path, '-image' => $icons{"open"});
add_dir_contents($path);
} else {
# Yes. Close it by changing the icon, and deleting its
subnode.
$h->entryconfigure($path, '-image' => $icons{"closed"});
$h->delete('offsprings', $path);
}
} else {
die "'$path' is not a directory\n" if (! -d $path);
$h->add($path, '-itemtype' => 'imagetext',
'-image' => $icons{"open"}, '-text' => $path);
add_dir_contents($path);
}
}
sub add_dir_contents {
my $path = $_[0];
my $oldcursor = $top->cget('-cursor');
$top->configure('-cursor' => 'watch');
$top->update();
my @files = <$path/*>;
foreach $file (@files) {
$file =~ s|//|/|g;
($text = $file) =~ s|^.*/||g;
if (-d $file) {
$h->add($file, '-itemtype' => 'imagetext',
'-image' => $icons{"closed"}, '-text' => $text);
} else {
$h->add($file, -itemtype => 'text',
'-text' => $text);
}
}
$top->configure('-cursor' => $oldcursor);
}
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