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Today's topics:
Re: quick question mod_perl vs fastcgi <zentara@highstream.net>
Re: read web content Andrew Lee
reference to abc.pl?a=b does not display as html in N6 <campbell@cira.colostate.edu>
Re: reference to abc.pl?a=b does not display as html in <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Re: reference to abc.pl?a=b does not display as html in Andrew Lee
Re: Return the index of an array (Malcolm Dew-Jones)
Re: Return the index of an array <abigail@abigail.nl>
Re: Some confusion <newsmonkey@vboston.com>
Re: Some confusion <smiley@uvgotemail.com>
Re: Strange behaviour using underscore "_" as a subrout <scriptyrich@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Strange behaviour using underscore "_" as a subrout <bongie@gmx.net>
Re: Strange behaviour using underscore "_" as a subrout <scriptyrich@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: string in datei <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Re: string in datei (Tad McClellan)
Re: string in datei <abigail@abigail.nl>
Re: string in datei <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Re: string in datei (Ben Morrow)
Re: string in datei <spamfilter@cheiron-it.nl>
Re: string in datei <jeff@vpservices.com>
Re: string in datei <tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de>
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:41:35 -0500
From: zentara <zentara@highstream.net>
Subject: Re: quick question mod_perl vs fastcgi
Message-Id: <a0j24v0mi9571s3ckovsgaeg1j0suv1835@4ax.com>
On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 16:47:11 -0800, swen <swen@news.com> wrote:
>My biggest bottleneck for my cgi apps is the loading of modules (some of
>my apps have tons of modules). I just want to be able to leave loaded
>modules, and of course the perl executable, in memory. Which of these
>provides that service with minimal learning curve and installation time?
>thanks.
Well I was waiting for one of the "big guns" in here to give you an
answer, but none was forthcoming, so I say fastcgi is alot easier
than mod_perl. I have an old perl store that I converted to using
fastcgi, it was easy and it works as advertised.
The biggest obstacle is overcoming the difference between
"static" and "dynamic" apps, in the fastcgi definitions.
I would suggest setting up mod_fastcgi and then experimenting a little
until you see how fastcgi sets up the reserve copies of the app. Just
run some simple cgi's and change their definitions from static to
dynamic in httpd.conf. It is easiest to let them be dynamic, and they
will default to dynamic unless defined as static. Watch your processes
with top, and you'll see what goes on.
Here's a portion of my httpd.conf to show you what I mean.
Remember you need to restart apache after any changes,
and when testing, flush your browser's cache or else you may
get confusing results, as the browser tries to reload the old cgi.
(watch wordwrap)
<IfModule mod_fastcgi.c>
AddType application/x-httpd-fcgi .fcgi .fpl
# URIs that begin with /fcgi-bin/, are found in /var/www/fcgi-bin/
FastCgiConfig -restart
alias /fcgi-bin/ /srv/www/fcgi-bin/
# Anything in here is handled as a "dynamic" server if not defined
# as "static" or "external"
<Directory /srv/www/fcgi-bin/>
SetHandler fastcgi-script
AddHandler fastcgi-script .fcgi .fpl
Options +ExecCGI
</Directory>
<Directory /home/zz/public_html/cgi-bin/store>
SetHandler fastcgi-script
AddHandler fastcgi-script .fcgi .fpl
Options +ExecCGI
</Directory>
# Anything with one of these extensions is handled as a "dynamic"
# server if not defined as "static" or "external".
# Note: "dynamic" servers require ExecCGI to be on in their directory.
AddHandler fastcgi-script .fcgi .fpl
# Start a "static" server at httpd initialization inside the scope of
the SetHandler
#FastCgiServer /var/www/fcgi-bin/echo -processes 5
# Start a "static" server at httpd initialization inside the scope of
the AddHandler
#FastCgiServer /var/www/htdocs/some/path/echo.fcgi
# Start a "static" server at httpd initialization outside the scope of
the Set/AddHandler
FastCgiServer /home/zz/public_html/cgi-bin/store/perlshop.fcgi
-processes 2 -restart-delay 0
FastCgiServer /home/zz/public_html/cgi-bin/store/boacc.fcgi -processes 2
-restart-delay 0
FastCgiServer /home/zz/public_html/cgi-bin/store/respgen.fcgi -processes
2 -restart-delay 0
</IfModule>
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:44:42 -0500
From: Andrew Lee
Subject: Re: read web content
Message-Id: <qdm24vc12e4gmig9h8gd618v2avkm8esvd@4ax.com>
On 3 Feb 2003 21:49:09 -0800, flateyjarbok@yahoo.com (R Solberg) wrote:
>"Pons" <pons@gmx.li> wrote in message news:<b1itlq$13i7go$1@ID-172702.news.dfncis.de>...
>> I would like to write a script to read the content of
>> Web page, and copy it to a file *.txt for later use
>> such as filtering or putting it in a string?
>> can any one help? if not ignore me !
>>
>>
>> -Pons
>> pons@gmx.li
>
>How do I get at a URL if the site is protected by a password (and I
>have a legitimate password. I know there are different types of
>security, so for example can anyone explain with code how to access
>wsj.com web pages?
Use LWP.
e.g.
my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new;
$ua->agent("Hi! I am a user agent!");
$ua->credentials("www.mydoian.com:80", "realm", "user", "pass");
my $req = POST $options{'URL'},
[action => 'some_form',
more_info => 'list_all' ];
my $content = $ua->request($req)->as_string;
But, wsj.com may NOT appreciate you pulling content off ther server.
You have to read their policies.
hth
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:25:24 -0700
From: "G.G. Campbell" <campbell@cira.colostate.edu>
Subject: reference to abc.pl?a=b does not display as html in N6
Message-Id: <3E416524.1040107@cira.colostate.edu>
I have a perl script which returns html text.
But N6 interprets the following address as perl
and asks whether to start perl.
http://isccp.cira.colostate.edu/scripts/monmat.pl?yrmn=8505
This works in IE6.
The perl script it self begins with
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
please reply to campbell@cira.colostate.edu
as I do not visit here often.
Thanks
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:18:03 +0100
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: reference to abc.pl?a=b does not display as html in N6
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0302052112490.10451@lxplus083.cern.ch>
On Feb 5, G.G. Campbell inscribed on the eternal scroll:
> I have a perl script which returns html text.
> But N6 interprets the following address as perl
> and asks whether to start perl.
>
> http://isccp.cira.colostate.edu/scripts/monmat.pl?yrmn=8505
Then you're doing it wrong. But as I get an authentication prompt
when I try it, I cannot offer any further comment, other than that you
probably don't have a Perl (or perl) question.
> This works in IE6.
IE is broken in this regard. If it does what you expect, then it
usually means your expectations are defective. Some questioners have
been helped by this page of mine
http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/www/content-type.html
> please reply to campbell@cira.colostate.edu
Shan't. (And don't complain that your rudeness has provoked further
rudeness: that's not so very unusual.)
> as I do not visit here often.
Your choice.
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:12:41 -0500
From: Andrew Lee
Subject: Re: reference to abc.pl?a=b does not display as html in N6
Message-Id: <dhv24vcreeb6g6j8q9lfv7hal81d99mhqe@4ax.com>
On Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:25:24 -0700, "G.G. Campbell"
<campbell@cira.colostate.edu> wrote:
>I have a perl script which returns html text.
>But N6 interprets the following address as perl
>and asks whether to start perl.
>
>http://isccp.cira.colostate.edu/scripts/monmat.pl?yrmn=8505
>
>This works in IE6.
>
>The perl script it self begins with
>print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
>
>please reply to campbell@cira.colostate.edu
>as I do not visit here often.
I assure you, I email you even less often that you visit here.
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Date: 5 Feb 2003 11:55:06 -0800
From: yf110@vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (Malcolm Dew-Jones)
Subject: Re: Return the index of an array
Message-Id: <3e416c1a@news.victoria.tc.ca>
Alex Banks (alex@alexbanks.com) wrote:
: I need a way to reference the index of an array element in a foreach style
: loop, as my array indices maybe out of sequence.
: For example:
: my @alex = ("one","two","three");
: $alex[52] = "four";
: for (@alex) {print}
: This prints the contents of the array, but inside the for loop I need to
: retrieve the index for that element. So the loop will print 0, 1, 2, 52 (in
: using this method I trust that my array does not allocate space for 53
: elements, but only for the four that I use).
You are not printing what you think you are printing. Change your code
slightly to see what is really happening.
my @alex = ("one","two","three");
$alex[52] = "four";
for (@alex) {print "[$_]\n"}
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Date: 05 Feb 2003 20:22:31 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.nl>
Subject: Re: Return the index of an array
Message-Id: <slrnb42sk6.9nr.abigail@alexandra.abigail.nl>
Alex Banks (alex@alexbanks.com) wrote on MMMCDXLV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:3e4117ab$0$230$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>:
;; I need a way to reference the index of an array element in a foreach style
;; loop, as my array indices maybe out of sequence.
;;
;; For example:
;;
;; my @alex = ("one","two","three");
;; $alex[52] = "four";
;; for (@alex) {print}
;;
;; This prints the contents of the array, but inside the for loop I need to
;; retrieve the index for that element. So the loop will print 0, 1, 2, 52 (in
;; using this method I trust that my array does not allocate space for 53
;; elements, but only for the four that I use).
If only you bothered to try:
my @alex = ("one","two","three");
$alex[52] = "four";
print scalar @alex, "\n";
__END__
53
Abigail
--
perl -wlne '}print$.;{' file # Count the number of lines.
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:18:50 -0500
From: "Jim Davis" <newsmonkey@vboston.com>
Subject: Re: Some confusion
Message-Id: <b1rdhc012ng@enews1.newsguy.com>
"Smiley" <smiley@uvgotemail.com> wrote in message
news:v41ebas2ods290@corp.supernews.com...
> Can anybody tell me what's standard wages for web programmers doing
contract
> work in Perl, PHP, ColdFusion, and the like make? I've heard from some
> sources that these programmers are a dime a dozen and are often found
> working for minimum wage - yet I've been led to believe that programmers
in
> general make $30,000 - $40,000/yr on the lower end.
>
> What's the truth here?
The truth is, it depends...
1) ...On your area. Here in Boston jobs are hard to come by but they pay
well. A junior web prgrammer can be found for $30-40k while senior people
make upwards of $70-90k. However the midwest sees those numbers cut by
10-40% while NYC may see an increase of 10-20%. The cost of living is a
major factor here.
2) ...On Experience. There are two kinds of experience: broad and deep. Do
you know a little of many different language or are you extremely proficient
in one? Generally the later pays more, but it's harder to find work.
Contracting rates for specialists are quite high (in the $100-200/hr range)
while jacks(hacks?)-of-all-trades can be pretty low. It also depends on
your skills... I'll never know why but Designers and Usability people (two
of the more important team members in my opinion) tend to get paid less
while programmers tend to get paid more.
3) ...On the company. In general small companies are able pay less (while
expecting more!) while larger companies are willing to pay more. The few
remaining studios and dot-coms are cash-strapped - they'll often take a
beginner on the cheap. (This also has to do with the fact that the vast
majority of work being done these days can be classified as "maintenance" as
companies are less willing to front new and exciting stuff.)
On the other hand old brick-and-mortar's, in particular large and/or very
old ones (Insurance, banking, etc) may hire less, but pay more (and
generally have better benefits).
4) ...On the type of employment. Companies are cutting back in every
department and are unwilling to commit to new projects as quickly. This
means less new work, but a desire to extend old systems longer and longer.
This means a LOT of maintenance and kludge work available for contractors.
This is why you'll see contracts for old products (CF 4 for example) pop up.
In addition, due to the burst, there are a LOT of orphaned technologies out
there. Tools like Tango, Lasso, WebPlus, SilverStream, etc all got used by
somebody, somewhere. Now these companies are finding it nigh-impossible to
find people qualified to work on this systems. This leaves two holes open:
one for people that actually do now these systems, and another for people
able to convert them to newer, better supported systems.
There's at least some contracting work out there for this as my last few
inquires have been of this nature.
Jim Davis
--
President, Depressed Press of Boston: http://www.DepressedPress.com/
Webmaster, First Night Boston: http://www.firstnight.org/
Senior Consultant, Metlife eCommerce IT: http://www.metlife.com/
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:54:55 -0500
From: "Smiley" <smiley@uvgotemail.com>
Subject: Re: Some confusion
Message-Id: <v42k6nki9dnm55@corp.supernews.com>
"Jim Davis" <newsmonkey@vboston.com> wrote in message
news:b1rdhc012ng@enews1.newsguy.com...
>
> In addition, due to the burst, there are a LOT of orphaned technologies
out
> there. Tools like Tango, Lasso, WebPlus, SilverStream, etc all got used
by
> somebody, somewhere. Now these companies are finding it nigh-impossible
to
> find people qualified to work on this systems. This leaves two holes
open:
> one for people that actually do now these systems, and another for people
> able to convert them to newer, better supported systems.
>
> There's at least some contracting work out there for this as my last few
> inquires have been of this nature.
Great information Jim, thanks. Can you confirm or deny, though, whether
there are programmers out there making minimum wage? Or does the very low
end still pay higher than minimum wage?
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:13:34 +0000
From: Rich <scriptyrich@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour using underscore "_" as a subroutine name
Message-Id: <b1rd64$4so$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>
Tad McClellan wrote:
> Salvador Fandiño García <sfandino@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> But I'm sure the behaviour I'm seeing is wrong: "_" gets redefined in
>>> EVERY module,
>
>> This is because '_' subroutine is special, it's the same sub in any
>> package (the same happens with $_ and also with @_ and %_). Just use
>> other name for your sub like 'T'.
>
>
> or, to remain "unobtrusive":
>
> sub __ { code; }
>
>
Thanks for the replies - I'll keep well clear of "_" from now on. For some
reason I didnt think _ in file tests was a subroutine - there again, I'm
not sure what I thought it was!
Its not as simple as picking any other sub name though - xgettext only
recognises a small number of alternatives. As I'm using xgettext.pl
provided with Locale::Maketext::Lexicon, I can use "x", but neither T or __
would work. I so appreciate these were only examples though :)
Again, thanks
--
Rich
scriptyrich@yahoo.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:22:57 +0100
From: "Harald H.-J. Bongartz" <bongie@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour using underscore "_" as a subroutine name
Message-Id: <2782697.7QUjYnK4Be@nyoga.dubu.de>
Rich wrote:
> Its not as simple as picking any other sub name though - xgettext only
> recognises a small number of alternatives. As I'm using xgettext.pl
> provided with Locale::Maketext::Lexicon, I can use "x", but neither T
> or __ would work.
Why not? As I can see in the source on CPAN, xgettext.pl looks for
/\b(maketext|_|loc|x)/, so you already have loc and maketext in
addition to x and _, and changing xgettext.pl to accept more choices is
just a matter of changing this regex (it's on line 150 in the CPAN
version).
Ciao,
Harald
--
Harald H.-J. Bongartz <bongie@gmx.net>
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
I feel like I am diagonally parked in a parallel universe.
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 20:40:22 +0000
From: Rich <scriptyrich@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Strange behaviour using underscore "_" as a subroutine name
Message-Id: <b1rsqb$b56$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>
Harald H.-J. Bongartz wrote:
> Rich wrote:
>> Its not as simple as picking any other sub name though - xgettext only
>> recognises a small number of alternatives. As I'm using xgettext.pl
>> provided with Locale::Maketext::Lexicon, I can use "x", but neither T
>> or __ would work.
>
> Why not? As I can see in the source on CPAN, xgettext.pl looks for
> /\b(maketext|_|loc|x)/, so you already have loc and maketext in
> addition to x and _, and changing xgettext.pl to accept more choices is
> just a matter of changing this regex (it's on line 150 in the CPAN
> version).
>
> Ciao,
> Harald
I agree its trivially easy to hack xgettext.pl but that's not the point.
I'm not the owner of Locale::Maketext::Lexicon. I plan to release apps to
the open source community at some point, and it doesn't make sense to
modify an existing CPAN module/script if it already provides a workable
solution - hence "x" and not "__" or "T".
Cheers,
--
Rich
scriptyrich@yahoo.co.uk
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 19:29:47 +0100
From: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>
Subject: Re: string in datei
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0302051929100.16626-100000@linux01.gwdg.de>
>hi,
>
>kann mir jemand sagen wie ich einen string in eine datei schreiben kann.
... only english here. otherwise try de.comp.lang.perl.* if such exists.
open(OUT, ">file");
print OUT "string";
close OUT;
- Jan Engelhardt
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 13:09:01 -0600
From: tadmc@augustmail.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: string in datei
Message-Id: <slrnb42oad.bs7.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de> wrote:
> open(OUT, ">file");
You should always, yes *always*, check the return value from open():
open(OUT, ">file") or die "could not open 'file' $!";
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@augustmail.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 05 Feb 2003 20:08:36 GMT
From: Abigail <abigail@abigail.nl>
Subject: Re: string in datei
Message-Id: <slrnb42rq4.9nr.abigail@alexandra.abigail.nl>
Jan Engelhardt (jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de) wrote on MMMCDXLV September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:Pine.LNX.4.33.0302051929100.16626-100000@linux01.gwdg.de>:
$$ >hi,
$$ >
$$ >kann mir jemand sagen wie ich einen string in eine datei schreiben kann.
$$
$$ ... only english here.
Huh? This isn't en.comp.lang.perl.misc. It would be unfair to ban
people to a regional group just because they don't master English.
I speak a different language than English. Should I monitor other
Perl groups as well (and hence have less time to answer questions
here), or are you implying that people who don't master English
have no right to hear my opinion about their questions?
Abigail
--
print 74.117.115.116.32.97.110.111.116.104.101.114.
32.80.101.114.108.32.72.97.99.107.101.114.10;
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:48:35 +0100
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: string in datei
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0302051934150.10451@lxplus083.cern.ch>
On Feb 5, Jan Engelhardt inscribed on the eternal scroll:
> open(OUT, ">file");
Never do that without testing for success and taking appropriate
action.
And if you've got nothing to interpolate, it might be more hygienic
to use single quotes ' ' rather than doublequotes " ".
> print OUT "string";
> close OUT;
If the application was a critical one, then you should be testing for
success here also (maybe the device is full and the data cannot be
written to file, for example). Furthermore, it was not clear whether
the questioner wanted to overwrite anything which the file (Datei)
previously contained, or not.
(und wegen "datei", hat man inzwischen Grossschreiben aufgegeben?)
Executive summary: we don't know the questioner's present level of
expertise very clearly, we don't know very clearly what they want to
achieve and in what context; so I think it's taking a risk to guess
what they want and offer one specific answer (which itself was
incomplete by the generally accepted guidelines of this group).
Was I fair?
best regards
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 20:36:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: mauzo@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk (Ben Morrow)
Subject: Re: string in datei
Message-Id: <b1rsl7$dnf$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>
abigail@abigail.nl wrote:
>Jan Engelhardt (jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de) wrote on MMMCDXLV September
>MCMXCIII in <URL:news:Pine.LNX.4.33.0302051929100.16626-100000@linux01.gwdg.de>:
>$$ >hi,
>$$ >
>$$ >kann mir jemand sagen wie ich einen string in eine datei schreiben kann.
>$$
>$$ ... only english here.
>
>
>Huh? This isn't en.comp.lang.perl.misc.
No, this is comp.lang.perl.misc, which is by implication
us.comp.lang.perl.misc. In the US they speak (some approximation to) English.
Apart from anything else, discussions in one group in several languages
rapidly get very confusing and nearly impossible to follow.
If you speack Deutsch, feel free to read de.comp.lang.perl.misc (or whatever).
Just my 2d. This point turns up far too often...
Ben
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Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 21:54:42 +0100
From: "Frank Maas" <spamfilter@cheiron-it.nl>
Subject: Re: string in datei
Message-Id: <3e417a8c$0$133$e4fe514c@dreader9.news.xs4all.nl>
"Ben Morrow" <mauzo@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk> wrote:
> No, this is comp.lang.perl.misc, which is by implication
> us.comp.lang.perl.misc. In the US they speak (some approximation to)
English.
I beg your pardon???? If it is anything it would be
world.comp.lang.perl.misc.
And for the record: in the US they speak a fast number of languages.
--Frank
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Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 12:53:18 -0800
From: Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>
Subject: Re: string in datei
Message-Id: <3E4179BE.30909@vpservices.com>
Ben Morrow wrote:
> abigail@abigail.nl wrote:
>
>>Jan Engelhardt (jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de) wrote on MMMCDXLV September
>>MCMXCIII in <URL:news:Pine.LNX.4.33.0302051929100.16626-100000@linux01.gwdg.de>:
>>$$ >hi,
>>$$ >
>>$$ >kann mir jemand sagen wie ich einen string in eine datei schreiben kann.
>>$$
>>$$ ... only english here.
>>
>>
>>Huh? This isn't en.comp.lang.perl.misc.
>>
>
> No, this is comp.lang.perl.misc, which is by implication
> us.comp.lang.perl.misc.
By whose implication?
> In the US they speak (some approximation to) English.
And Spanish, and Cajun French, and Yiddish, and Hindi, and Navaho,
etc., etc. Try to take a cab, or eat a meal, or work almost anywhere in
New York City sometime if you need a language lesson.
> Just my 2d. This point turns up far too often...
And whenever it does the majority of regular contributors defend the
international character of clpm.
--
Jeff
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Date: 5 Feb 2003 22:47:05 GMT
From: "Tassilo v. Parseval" <tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: string in datei
Message-Id: <b1s499$d62$1@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE>
Also sprach Alan J. Flavell:
[ abolishment of capitalization? ]
> (und wegen "datei", hat man inzwischen Grossschreiben aufgegeben?)
Not in general, but bear in mind that Uri-alikes do also live on this
side of the Atlantic. ;-)
Tassilo
--
$_=q#",}])!JAPH!qq(tsuJ[{@"tnirp}3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$-3(rellac(=_$({
pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
$_=reverse,s+(?<=sub).+q#q!'"qq.\t$&."'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~dddd;eval
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