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Perl-Users Digest           Wed, 22 Jan 2003     Volume: 10 Number: 4448

Today's topics:
        Can I store an array into a DataBase? (Francesco Moi)
        consolidating some regex's <rick@shleprock.net>
    Re: consolidating some regex's (Anno Siegel)
        convert PDF to text <netscapeonly@fusionplant.com>
    Re: convert PDF to text <eighner@io.com>
        Converting a string to a valid date.. <no_spam@fromyou.thanks-anyways.com>
    Re: Converting a string to a valid date.. <glex_nospam@qwest.net>
    Re: Converting a string to a valid date.. <no_spam@fromyou.thanks-anyways.com>
    Re: Cross-dependency of packages (Ben Morrow)
        function overriding <perl-dvd@darklaser.com>
    Re: function overriding <tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de>
        Help With Perl <pcb007@blueyonder.co.uk>
    Re: Help With Perl <glex_nospam@qwest.net>
    Re: Help With Perl (Anno Siegel)
    Re: How can a SMTP mail be deleted from a Unix mailbox  <"ynotssor">
    Re: identifying web host platform? (Tad McClellan)
    Re: Is anyone using Perl 6 yet? (Sara)
    Re: Is anyone using Perl 6 yet? (Tad McClellan)
        OT: I've got wild staring eyes, and I've got a strong u <richard@zync.co.uk>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: 22 Jan 2003 14:20:20 -0800
From: francescomoi@europe.com (Francesco Moi)
Subject: Can I store an array into a DataBase?
Message-Id: <5b829932.0301221420.2d28a58c@posting.google.com>

Hello.

I'm working with Perl and MySQL, and I would like to store an
array (@my_array) into a DataBase, so that I can handle it.

Is it possible?

Thank you very much.


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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 18:02:31 GMT
From: "devrick" <rick@shleprock.net>
Subject: consolidating some regex's
Message-Id: <X0BX9.785820$WL3.785169@rwcrnsc54>

Could someone provide a way to consolidate the following:

$_ =~ s/^\s+//gm;
next unless !/^\#/;
next unless !/^\%/;
next unless !/^\)/;
next unless /(\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3})/;
$_ =~ tr/\'\,//d;

This is all inside a while loop.  I was trying to get all the lines inside a
single $_ but I'm not having much luck.
I need the lines to filter through the data in the order in which they are
listed.




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Date: 22 Jan 2003 22:13:59 GMT
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Re: consolidating some regex's
Message-Id: <b0n537$gfa$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>

devrick <rick@shleprock.net> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> Could someone provide a way to consolidate the following:

There's quite a bit to be consolidated.

> $_ =~ s/^\s+//gm;
                ^^
Is this a multiline string?

Why do you mention $_ here, but not in the later pattern matches?  Be
consistent.

    s/^\s+//; # /gm only makes sense with multiline strings

> next unless !/^\#/;
> next unless !/^\%/;
> next unless !/^\)/;

Well, "unless !/.../" is the same as "if /.../".  Avoid negation.
Double negation is never necessary.  

Further, you don't have to escape "#" in a regex, nor most of the other
characters you escaped.  Only ")" needs it (but see below).  Don't do
that, the reader (yourself included) has to remember to ignore the
spurious backwhacks.

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with multiple "next if /.../"
statements.  It helps keep the individual regexes simple.  Here however
the three regexes can be conveniently combined in a character class:

    next if /^[#,)]/

Now not even ")" must be escaped.

> next unless /(\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3}\.\d{1,3})/;

Nothing wrong with that.  Don't try to combine this regex with the
other one.  Even if the logic were easy to get (it isn't), it's much
clearer to leave them apart.

> $_ =~ tr/\'\,//d;

Again too much escaping and unnecessary "$_ =~".
    
> This is all inside a while loop.  I was trying to get all the lines inside a
> single $_ but I'm not having much luck.

I don't know what you're saying here...

> I need the lines to filter through the data in the order in which they are
> listed.

 ...nor here.

Anno


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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:45:34 -0500
From: Netscape User <netscapeonly@fusionplant.com>
Subject: convert PDF to text
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0301221143060.22913-100000@fusionplant.com>

is there some way to convert a PDF to a text file?
sometimes I can see some words in a pdf file using a text editor, but it 
looks like a form of binary.
what method is used?
who do you decode it?



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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:14:12 -0600
From: Lars Eighner <eighner@io.com>
Subject: Re: convert PDF to text
Message-Id: <slrnb2u2gk.474.eighner@dumpster.io.com>

In our last episode, 
<Pine.LNX.4.44.0301221143060.22913-100000@fusionplant.com>, 
the lovely and talented Netscape User 
broadcast on comp.lang.perl.misc:

> is there some way to convert a PDF to a text file?

         pdftotext

> sometimes I can see some words in a pdf file using a text editor, but it 
> looks like a form of binary.
> what method is used?
> who do you decode it?

         pdftotext works good.  There's no point in reinventing the
         wheel.  If you are just curious about how it works, it is
         open source.


-- 
Lars Eighner -finger for geek code-  eighner@io.com http://www.io.com/~eighner/
                       War on Terrorism: Camp Follower
"I am ... a total sucker for the guys ... with all the ribbons on and stuff,
  and they say it's true and I'm ready to believe it. -Cokie Roberts,_ABC_


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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:02:44 GMT
From: "Bullet" <no_spam@fromyou.thanks-anyways.com>
Subject: Converting a string to a valid date..
Message-Id: <8yEX9.11615$w62.3073509437@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com>

Ok I have the following problem..

I have a script that receives data from another scipt via an http POST
and I need to insert this data into a MySQL database before I can continue
processing the request..

Anyhow. .the date format of the dates recieved via POST is..
18:30:30 Jan 1, 2000 PST

However MySQL will only accept datetime fields in the format..
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

So.. anyhow.. I need to figure out a good way to convert from the format I
recieve in
and the format I need to use to insert into the database as a valid datetime
object..

Basically.. I am wondering what the best method might be too accomplish
this..

I was thinking that I could first strip the , out and then split on
whitespace.. and get an array..
which should contain all parts of the puzzle..

anyhow.. the timezone portion isnt critical.. because  all requests will be
in
the same timezone.. and mainly the dates will simply be used for fetching a
result set from the
database based on a date range. .

So then I figured I would need to create an array of 'Short Month' names for
conversion of
that data to a numeric value..

And then I would also need something to add the leading 0 onto the Day of
the Month.. if it wasnt
already there..

Then finally I figured on 'gluing' all the pieces together in the proper
order to obtain the final result

So anyhow.. I figure this will work.. but I REALLY feel like I must be
re-inventing the wheel here..

I figure there must either be a module for doing this already.. or
something.. and short of that.. I am sure
that one of you gurus could probably write this in about 5 lines.. whereas
for me it will most likely be more
than 50 LOL..

Anyhow.. im more than willing to tackle this if nescessary.. but if anyone
has any suggestions I would
appreciate hearing them.. thanks..




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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:49:49 -0600
From: Jeff D Gleixner <glex_nospam@qwest.net>
Subject: Re: Converting a string to a valid date..
Message-Id: <NcFX9.327$4i3.52223@news.uswest.net>


> Anyhow.. im more than willing to tackle this if nescessary.. but if anyone
> has any suggestions I would
> appreciate hearing them.. thanks..

While it's quite easy to parse and manipulate the date string you showed into 
something that MySQL likes, you might want to use a Module for it.

If you're wondering if there's a module that will help you, always start with 
CPAN or search w/Google.  On CPAN, search for "Date", you'll find a few modules 
that will help, such as Date::Format.

http://search.cpan.org/



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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 22:55:57 GMT
From: "Bullet" <no_spam@fromyou.thanks-anyways.com>
Subject: Re: Converting a string to a valid date..
Message-Id: <1kFX9.11627$Iq2.3074795666@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com>

Well I wrote the following little snippet to handle it..

I think it should work ok.. assuming my Short Month names are all correct ..
Somehow I didnt think it would have been this easy.. all my other forays
into
dates and times have been much harder..

Anyone see any holes? or anything I missed?

sub d_convert{

    %shortmonths =
("Jan"=>'01',"Feb"=>'02',"Mar"=>'03',"Apr"=>'04',"May"=>'05',"Jun"=>'06',

"Jul"=>'07',"Aug"=>'08',"Sep"=>'09',"Oct"=>'10',"Nov"=>'11',"Dec"=>'12');

    $conv_date = $_[0];
    $conv_date =~ s/,//;
    @de = split(/\s/,$conv_date);

    if (length($de[2]) == 1) {
        $de[2] = '0'.$de[2];
    }

    return "$de[3]:$shortmonths{$de[1]}:$de[2] $de[0]"

}

$date_in = "17:42:50 Jan 30, 2003 PST";
print &d_convert($date_in);




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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:59:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: mauzo@mimosa.csv.warwick.ac.uk (Ben Morrow)
Subject: Re: Cross-dependency of packages
Message-Id: <b0mt7s$6hu$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk>

"Richard Gration" <richard@zync.co.uk> wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>I've had this problem before and struggled with it, but never found a
>satisfactory solution.
>
>I have an object (package SS::Survey) and a general purpose Library
>(SS::Lib). The object methods need to use some functions in the Library
>and the Library needs to use the object at times. So the tops of the two
>files look like:
>
>package SS::Survey;
>use SS::Lib qw(:all);
>...
>
>and 
>
>package SS::Lib;
>use SS::Survey;
>...
>
>
>This results in a slew of "subroutine such_and_such redefined at Lib.pm
>line blah" errors when running "perl -c Lib.pm" (and in other
>situations). I have several questions about this ... 
>
>Is this dangerous, merely irritating or somewhere in between?
>
>Is it a result of poor coding practice, or is it unavoidable in some
>situations?
>
>I have read in the docs that Perl will only include a given file /
>package once ... ?

It will, however if you pass it Lib.pm as the file to execute that doesn't
count, so it will load it once more.

A better test for syntax of a module is something like

perl -MLib -e42

which loads the module and then does nothing. This should give no errors.

Ben


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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:06:11 GMT
From: "David" <perl-dvd@darklaser.com>
Subject: function overriding
Message-Id: <7JDX9.63$EZ2.27492@news-west.eli.net>

    I've got a nice test of this groups skills.

    What I'm trying to accomplish is, get my error log for a specific
script to write to a different log (accomplished this part), but prefix
any error line with the date/time and ip (only got about half of this
part).
    With the code below I have successfully overridden warn() and die()
to prefix with this info, but anytime I get an error like:
"cp: /path/to/image.jpg: No such file or directory"
    It is not prefixed.  It would be nice if it worked with compile time
errors too (note I have this stuff in a BEGIN block).

######################################
BEGIN {
    $|=1;
    open(STDERR, ">>/path/to/logs/ss_err.log");
    use subs 'warn';
    sub warn {
        unshift (@_, "[" . localtime() .
            "] [WARN] [$ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'}] ");
        CORE::warn(@_);
    }
    use subs 'die';
    sub die {
        unshift (@_, "[" . localtime() .
            "] [DIE] [$ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'}] ");
        CORE::die(@_);
    }
}
######################################

    I also discussed something like this in here about 6 months ago to
which I got some code with Tie::Handle in relation to STDERR, which
worked, but only if you actually performed a "print STDERR".
(groups.google.com discussion link here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3CFE9F85.2039
77BA%40earthlink.net&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DPrefixDate%26hl%3Den%26lr
%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D3CFE9F85.203977BA%2540earthlink.net%26rnum%3D1
note: remove line breaks in the url)

    So, does anyone know of a CORE function I can override to accomplish
this, or some other method?  Perhaps a different approach with
Tie:Handle?  Or even a signal to intercept?  Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance,
David




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Date: 22 Jan 2003 22:24:42 GMT
From: "Tassilo v. Parseval" <tassilo.parseval@post.rwth-aachen.de>
Subject: Re: function overriding
Message-Id: <b0n5na$1bg$1@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE>

Also sprach David:

>     I've got a nice test of this groups skills.
> 
>     What I'm trying to accomplish is, get my error log for a specific
> script to write to a different log (accomplished this part), but prefix
> any error line with the date/time and ip (only got about half of this
> part).
>     With the code below I have successfully overridden warn() and die()
> to prefix with this info, but anytime I get an error like:
> "cp: /path/to/image.jpg: No such file or directory"
>     It is not prefixed.  It would be nice if it worked with compile time
> errors too (note I have this stuff in a BEGIN block).
> 
> ######################################
> BEGIN {
>     $|=1;
>     open(STDERR, ">>/path/to/logs/ss_err.log");
>     use subs 'warn';
>     sub warn {
>         unshift (@_, "[" . localtime() .
>             "] [WARN] [$ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'}] ");
>         CORE::warn(@_);
>     }
>     use subs 'die';
>     sub die {
>         unshift (@_, "[" . localtime() .
>             "] [DIE] [$ENV{'REMOTE_ADDR'}] ");
>         CORE::die(@_);
>     }
> }
> ######################################

[...]

>     So, does anyone know of a CORE function I can override to accomplish
> this, or some other method?  Perhaps a different approach with
> Tie:Handle?  Or even a signal to intercept?  Any other ideas?

There are indeed two special signals that Perl provides and for which
you can install handlers:

    BEGIN {
        $SIG{ __WARN__ } = sub {
            my $msg = shift;
            ...
        };

        $SIG{ __DIE__ } = sub {
            my $msg = shift;
            ...
        };
    }

By putting them into a BEGIN block on top of your script this should
even catch compilation errors. This also works if you trigger one of the
two signals above yourself:

    open FILE, "file" or die $!;

will also call the above handler. Same for warn().

Tassilo
-- 
$_=q#",}])!JAPH!qq(tsuJ[{@"tnirp}3..0}_$;//::niam/s~=)]3[))_$-3(rellac(=_$({
pam{rekcahbus})(rekcah{lrePbus})(lreP{rehtonabus})!JAPH!qq(rehtona{tsuJbus#;
$_=reverse,s+(?<=sub).+q#q!'"qq.\t$&."'!#+sexisexiixesixeseg;y~\n~~dddd;eval


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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 17:35:24 -0000
From: "Paul" <pcb007@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Help With Perl
Message-Id: <1DAX9.9910$7w4.6129@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>

Hi i am totally new to perl but i have whois script that run brilliantly on
1 server but after transferring over to a new server with a later version of
perl i am getting an error. The orginal machine had version 5.6.1.613 on it
how ever the new machine has 5.6.1.633 on it.

this is the perl part of the script

<script language="PerlScript" runat="server">
use IO::Socket;
use IO::Select;

sub whois {
    #//@_ holds an array of the parameters passed to the function
    my ($domain, $server, $match, $debug) = @_;
    my $line="";
    my $WhoisReport="";
    my $available= 0; $x = 0; $nread = 0;

    if ($debug) {$Response->write("Connect...");}
    my $sock=new IO::Socket::INET (
        Proto => "tcp",
        PeerAddr => "$server",
        PeerPort => "whois(43)",
        Timeout => 5
        ) or return "Error";
    if ($debug) {$Response->write("Connected...");}
    #//turn on autoflushing for the socket
    #//i.e. print immediately to the socket without buffering: otherwise you
might print
    #//less to the socket than perl thinks is worth printing and Things Will
Go Wrong.
    $sock->autoflush(1);
    if (IO::Select->new($sock)->can_write(3))
        {
        print $sock "$domain\n" . $BLANK or return "Error";
        }
    if ($debug) {$Response->write("Sent domain...Read lines >");}

    while (1)
    {
          vec( my $rdset="", fileno $sock, 1 ) = 1;
          defined(($n,$timeleft) = select $rdset, undef, undef, 5) && $n > 0
&& $timeleft != 0
               or return "Error";
           $nread = sysread($sock, $line, 65, undef);
        if ($nread == 0) {last;}
        if ($debug) {$x++; $Response->write($x." ");}
        if (($match ne "nothing") && ($line =~ /$match/i))
            {
            $available = 1;
            last;
            }
        $WhoisReport.="$line";
    };
    close $sock or return "Error";
    if ($debug) {$Response->write("Closed conn...");}
    if ($match eq "nothing")
        {
        return "$WhoisReport";
        }
    if ($available == 1)
        {
        return True;
        }
    else
        {
        return False;
        }
}
</script>

and this is the error i am getting


Active Server Pages error 'ASP 0240'
Script Engine Exception
/cgi-bin/common.asp
A ScriptEngine threw expection 'C0000005' in 'IActiveScript::AddNamedItem()'
from 'CActiveScriptEngine::AddScriptingNamespace()'.
PerlScript Error error '80004005'
Can't locate IO/Socket.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/lib
C:/Perl/site/lib .) at (eval 1) line 4. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted
(in cleanup) Can't locate IO/Socket.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/lib
C:/Perl/site/lib .) at (eval 1) line 4. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted
/cgi-bin/common.asp, line 106

Line 106 is the io::socket command line.
Does any one know of a difference betweeh the 2 versions that might cause
this problem or can anyone help me with a soloution please
Thanks in advance
Paul




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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 14:19:01 -0600
From: Jeff D Gleixner <glex_nospam@qwest.net>
Subject: Re: Help With Perl
Message-Id: <o%CX9.143$6H1.34571@news.uswest.net>


> Line 106 is the io::socket command line.
> Does any one know of a difference betweeh the 2 versions that might cause
> this problem or can anyone help me with a soloution please

Install IO::Socket on this machine.



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Date: 22 Jan 2003 21:32:04 GMT
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Re: Help With Perl
Message-Id: <b0n2kk$dqo$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>

Paul <pcb007@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> Hi i am totally new to perl but i have whois script that run brilliantly on
> 1 server but after transferring over to a new server with a later version of
> perl i am getting an error. The orginal machine had version 5.6.1.613 on it
> how ever the new machine has 5.6.1.633 on it.
> 
> this is the perl part of the script
> 
> <script language="PerlScript" runat="server">
> use IO::Socket;

[program snipped]

> and this is the error i am getting
> 
> 
> Active Server Pages error 'ASP 0240'
> Script Engine Exception
> /cgi-bin/common.asp
> A ScriptEngine threw expection 'C0000005' in 'IActiveScript::AddNamedItem()'
> from 'CActiveScriptEngine::AddScriptingNamespace()'.
> PerlScript Error error '80004005'
> Can't locate IO/Socket.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/lib
> C:/Perl/site/lib .) at (eval 1) line 4. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted
> (in cleanup) Can't locate IO/Socket.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/lib
> C:/Perl/site/lib .) at (eval 1) line 4. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted
> /cgi-bin/common.asp, line 106
> 
> Line 106 is the io::socket command line.
> Does any one know of a difference betweeh the 2 versions that might cause
> this problem or can anyone help me with a soloution please

Well, it tells you what's wrong. The lines following the line
"PerlScript Error..." are Perl's error message.  It says that Perl
can't find the module IO::Socket which is requested by "use IO::Socket",
the first thing your program does.  This indicates a mis-installation
of Perl (since IO::Socket belongs to Perl).  I'd re-install Perl on the
failing system.

Anno


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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:48:13 -0800
From: "ynotssor" <"ynotssor">
Subject: Re: How can a SMTP mail be deleted from a Unix mailbox by a script?
Message-Id: <3e2ed915_2@corp.newsgroups.com>

"Markus Elfring" <Markus.Elfring@web.de> wrote in message news:40ed1d8f.0301181354.4738f7dc@posting.google.com

[...]
> This request's subject is the deletion of messages in the file "mbox".
> 1. Some programmes provide the prompt/command line as their
> programming interface.
> The deletion can be performed manually by typing the letter "d" with a
> following message number inside the programmes "mail". (This step can
> be performed by a script, too.)
> 
> I encounter the difficulty to scroll through all exististing messages
> by a command to find the right number for the message that should be
> deleted. I am looking for an efficient algorithm.
[...]
> A problem detail is also to acquire a lock for the write access to
> update the file.

preenmail is made for such things and many others. Examine the README
at ftp://ftp.rpi.edu/home/89/sofkam/public/preenmail


          tony

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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 09:55:19 -0600
From: tadmc@augustmail.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: identifying web host platform?
Message-Id: <slrnb2tfn7.76k.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>

I'm Dan <dg1261@cs-REMOVE_THIS-.com> wrote:

> Some time ago (within the last year or two) I recall tinkering with a way to
> reveal the host platform and server of a website

> Does this ring a bell with anyone?


Install the LWP module, then use the HEAD program:


   HEAD http://www.perl.org

200 OK
Connection: close
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:54:11 GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Server: Apache/2.0.42 (Unix) DAV/2
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Client-Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 15:53:51 GMT
Client-Peer: 209.104.63.56:80


-- 
    Tad McClellan                          SGML consulting
    tadmc@augustmail.com                   Perl programming
    Fort Worth, Texas


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Date: 22 Jan 2003 08:33:20 -0800
From: genericax@hotmail.com (Sara)
Subject: Re: Is anyone using Perl 6 yet?
Message-Id: <776e0325.0301220833.2c08fdab@posting.google.com>

Martien Verbruggen <mgjv@tradingpost.com.au> wrote in message news:<slrnb2otnn.7m2.mgjv@martien.heliotrope.home>...
> On 20 Jan 2003 05:16:38 -0800,
>
   .
   . 
   .
> 
> Unless you enjoy playing with very early releases of stuff, don't do it.
> Unless you understand how premature these releases are, you could easily
> mistake a potential lack of speed, portability, stability or
> functionality (I am not saying any of these exist in parrot, BTW) as
> problems with the concept, and get disillusioned before the stuff is
> even released.
> 
> Martien


Thanks for the update Martien- I had no idea Parrot was still in the
cage! It got a lot of play at OSCON so I guess I (incorrectly) assumed
it was out in the world. I appreciate the snapshop, I agree it looks
to have many exciting ascpects which as you probably know drew cheers
and catcalls at OSCON when they were enumerated byt Damian and Larry
et al.

Cheers, I'll heed your warning and stick to 5.6 for now...
Gx


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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:32:10 -0600
From: tadmc@augustmail.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: Is anyone using Perl 6 yet?
Message-Id: <slrnb2tlcq.7o0.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>

Sara <genericax@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Cheers, I'll heed your warning and stick to 5.6 for now...


You should give serious consideration to moving to 5.6.1 (or even 5.8.0).


-- 
    Tad McClellan                          SGML consulting
    tadmc@augustmail.com                   Perl programming
    Fort Worth, Texas


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Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 16:48:28 +0000
From: "Richard Gration" <richard@zync.co.uk>
Subject: OT: I've got wild staring eyes, and I've got a strong urge to fly ...
Message-Id: <20030122.164827.213975407.1546@richg.zync>

In article <slrnb2tg78.76k.tadmc@magna.augustmail.com>, "Tad McClellan"
<tadmc@augustmail.com> wrote:
> Is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me.

Just wondering if the above is a deliberate quote? :-)


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