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Perl-Users Digest           Mon, 15 Oct 2001     Volume: 10 Number: 1934

Today's topics:
        ANNOUNCE: Bit::Vector 6.1 <sb@engelschall.com>
        ANNOUNCE: DBD::Chart 0.43 <darnold@earthlink.net>
    Re: Balanced RegExp Pattern? <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
        color <sefy@bvr.co.il>
    Re: color <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
    Re: How do you get paid for Perl work over the Internet <aperlprogrammer@yahoo.com>
    Re: How do you get paid for Perl work over the Internet <aperlprogrammer@yahoo.com>
    Re: How do you get paid for Perl work over the Internet <tim@vegeta.ath.cx>
        How to undef many vars at once (David Filmer)
    Re: How to undef many vars at once <Laocoon@eudoramail.com>
    Re: How to undef many vars at once <steven.smolinski@sympatico.ca>
        ImageMagick or Gimp?? <tszeto@mindspring.com>
    Re: ImageMagick or Gimp?? (John J. Trammell)
    Re: LWP::UserAgent NT and Solaris difference <Thomas@Baetzler.de>
        Oracle PL/SQL from Perl? (Stefan Bauer)
    Re: Oracle PL/SQL from Perl? <ron@indra.com>
    Re: perl -e '$a="\'";print "$a\n"'  What's wrong with i (Garry Williams)
    Re: Perl and Win32 <chris_h_morris@bigfoot.com>
    Re: Perl and Win32 <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
        Perl wish list (Miko O'Sullivan)
    Re: Perl wish list <bernard.el-hagin@lido-tech.net>
    Re: Perl wish list <comdog@panix.com>
    Re: Perl wish list <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
    Re: Problems installing Archive::Tar <djberge@qwest.com>
    Re: Problems with ActiveState and MCPAN <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com>
    Re: Problems with ActiveState and MCPAN <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com>
    Re: Problems with ActiveState and MCPAN <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:28:18 +0200
From: Steffen Beyer <sb@engelschall.com>
Subject: ANNOUNCE: Bit::Vector 6.1
Message-Id: <tsme33jbesif41@corp.supernews.com>

Bit::Vector 6.1 is out!


This package is available for download either from my web site at

                  http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/download/

or from any CPAN (= "Comprehensive Perl Archive Network") mirror server:

               http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/id/S/ST/STBEY/


Abstract:
---------

Bit::Vector is an efficient C library which allows you to handle
bit vectors, sets (of integers), "big integer arithmetic" and
boolean matrices, all of arbitrary sizes.

The library is efficient (in terms of algorithmical complexity)
and therefore fast (in terms of execution speed) for instance
through the widespread use of divide-and-conquer algorithms.

The package also includes an object-oriented Perl module for
accessing the C library from Perl, and optionally features
overloaded operators for maximum ease of use.

The C library can nevertheless be used stand-alone, without Perl.


What's new in version 6.1:
--------------------------

Version 6.1 is a bugfix release.

Two bugs have been fixed: The failing tests with overloaded
operators under Perl 5.7.1 and Perl 5.7.2, and the problem
with the VMS linker which can't differentiate case (in
violation of the ANSI C standard).


Legal issues:
-------------

This package with all its parts is

Copyright (c) 1995 - 2001 by Steffen Beyer.
All rights reserved.

This package is free software; you can use, modify and redistribute
it under the same terms as Perl itself, i.e., under the terms of
the "Artistic License" or the "GNU General Public License".

The C library at the core of this Perl module can additionally
be used, modified and redistributed under the terms of the
"GNU Library General Public License".

Please refer to the files "Artistic.txt", "GNU_GPL.txt" and
"GNU_LGPL.txt" in this distribution, respectively, for details!


Prerequisites:
--------------

Perl version 5.000 or higher, and an ANSI C compiler. (!)
                                     ^^^^^^
If you compile under Windows, note that you will need
exactly the same compiler your Perl itself was compiled
with! (This is also true for Unix, but rarely a problem.)

Moreover, you usually cannot build any modules under
Windows 95/98, the Win 95/98 command shell doesn't
grok the "&&" operator. You will need the Windows NT
command shell ("cmd.exe") or the "4DOS" shell.

Note that ActiveState provides precompiled binaries of
this module for their Win32 port of Perl ("ActivePerl")
on their web site, which you should be able to install
simply by typing "ppm install Bit-Vector" in your MS-DOS
command shell (but note the "-" instead of "::" in the
package name!). This also works under Windows 95/98.

If your firewall prevents "ppm" from downloading
this package, you can also download it manually from
http://www.activestate.com/ppmpackages/5.005/zips/ or
http://www.activestate.com/ppmpackages/5.6/zips/.
Follow the installation instructions included in
the "zip" archive.


Note to CPAN Testers:
---------------------

Version 6.1 of this module has already been tested successfully
during development with the following configurations:

  Perl 5.003     -  Solaris 2.6 (SunOS 5.6)
  Perl 5.003_07  -  Solaris 2.6 (SunOS 5.6)
  Perl 5.004_04  -  Solaris 2.6 (SunOS 5.6)
  Perl 5.004_05  -  Solaris 2.6 (SunOS 5.6)
  Perl 5.005_03  -  FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE (with "dlopen() relative paths" patch)
  Perl 5.005_03  -  Windows NT 4.0 & MS VC++ 6.0 (native Perl build)
  Perl 5.6.0     -  FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE
  Perl 5.6.1     -  FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE
  Perl 5.6.1     -  Windows NT 4.0 & ActivePerl 5.6.1.626 (multi-thread)
  Perl 5.7.0     -  FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE
  Perl 5.7.1     -  FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE
  Perl 5.7.2     -  FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE


Author's note:
--------------

If you have any questions, suggestions or need any assistance, please
let me know!

Please do send feedback, this is essential for improving this module
according to your needs!

I hope you will find this module useful. Enjoy!

Yours,
-- 
    Steffen Beyer <sb@engelschall.com>
    http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/whoami/ (Who am I)
    http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/gallery/ (Fotos Brasil, USA, ...)
    http://www.engelschall.com/u/sb/download/ (Free Perl and C Software)




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Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 19:46:12 GMT
From: "Dean Arnold" <darnold@earthlink.net>
Subject: ANNOUNCE: DBD::Chart 0.43
Message-Id: <tsme3a6fp13c43@corp.supernews.com>

A new version of DBD::Chart is available at www.presicient.com/dbdchart
and should soon appear on CPAN. This release includes support
for GIF formats for both logo and output images, via older (unsupported)
versions of the various GD modules/libraries.
(Many thanks to Peter Scott for contributing these changes).

In addition, some other cosmetic fixes were included.

Regards,
Dean Arnold






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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:56:46 GMT
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: Balanced RegExp Pattern?
Message-Id: <375mstcl8rpija6jkp7qc8sgkrdhhjv5vh@4ax.com>

Thomas Bätzler wrote:

>>You probably want Text::Balanced.
>
>Want, yes. But has somebody ported that to Java yet?

Do you need it?

There are many parsing tools available for Java. I even saw a book
"Building Parsers With Java" in the bookstore the other day. I don't
know how good it is.

-- 
	Bart.


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:42:56 +0200
From: "sefy" <sefy@bvr.co.il>
Subject: color
Message-Id: <9qf3jd$k7o$1@news.netvision.net.il>

Does anyone happen to have a place where i could read up on how to do
#/bin/perl

print ("Hello word");   # in  color
exit(0);


Output  >  Hello word      (the font color is change)

Thanks  sefy twito B.V.R systems

sefy@bvr.co.il




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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:06:35 -0500
From: Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: color
Message-Id: <87vghgestg.fsf@limey.hpcc.uh.edu>

>> On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 18:42:56 +0200,
>> "sefy" <sefy@bvr.co.il> said:

> Does anyone happen to have a place where i could read up
> on how to do #/bin/perl

> print ("Hello word"); # in color exit(0);

> Output > Hello word (the font color is change)

If you're talking about output onto a tty type device, see
"perldoc Term::ANSIColor".

hth
t
-- 
Oh!  I've said too much.  Smithers, use the amnesia ray.


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:29:19 GMT
From: Carlos C. Gonzalez <aperlprogrammer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: How do you get paid for Perl work over the Internet??
Message-Id: <MPG.1634caa05d5523249897b4@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>

Tim Hammerquist at tim@vegeta.ath.cx said...

Hi Tim,

> And some more "constructive criticism," Carlos...  We may never
> have met you, but many of us have worked for you, done work for you, had
> to listen to your ideas, ideals, lines, promises, and excuses.  

Huh? (scratching my head trying to make heads or tails of comments like 
these).  May I kindly ask what work you have personally done for me?  Or 
for that matter what lines, promises, and excuses I have posted here?  To 
be sure I have received a great deal of help from many (and I believe 
from you to) for which I am very thankful.  

Have I ever not been thankful?  Have I disdained and ridiculed the input 
of anyone on this newsgroup?  In regard to Perl (the work I am assuming 
you mean)?  Or in regard to anything else for that matter?  I may 
disagree with opinions expressed but I certainly don't ridicule them.  

If by line you mean some B.S. that was a covering for an alterior motive 
or some kind of deception I completely disagree.  

If by promises you mean my word to do something that I did not follow 
through on please be specific and I will make it right!  But short of 
your pointing out my broken promises I am not aware of having made any at 
any time on this forum.  I have said I would try things like to keep my 
mouth shut but I only said I would try.  In the present case I feel again 
a need to say something.  

As for excuses...again Tim can you be more specific as to what excuses I 
have stated for what?  Why would I want to excuse anything I have said? I 
don't excuse any of it.  I may have said things rather naively believing 
in the good will of ones on this newsgroup (like yourself) to give me 
sound advice about how to market myself.  I may have expressed an opinion 
that you or others might not like.  My reasoning may not be totally sound 
in some things.  But excuses?  I have nothing to excuse Tim.  Why would I 
want to post an excuse?  For what?  What excuses are you talking about?  

> It's only Pavlovian
> psychology that we react against the incarnation of our adversaries.

Huh?  If you mean that I am now an incarnation of an adversary as in a 
marketing person who is trying to use this usenet as a forum to make 
money from naive and unsuspecting programmers then I completely disagree.  
My goal has been to get advice on Perl programming and with this last 
post on how to get setup to accept payments over the Internet for myself 
primarily.  With a view to maybe using beginning Perl programmers in my 
endeavors.  

At no time have I been dishonest or deceptive about my motives.  I have 
had none other than those stated above.  If that makes me your adversary 
well I don't know what to say.  If that is your belief it hardly even 
deserves a response Tim.  It's so way off.  

I sincerely wish you the best in your programming endeavors Tim. I really 
do.  I am not your adversary.

I suppose your statement does help me to understand the way out of 
proportion reaction you are having to what I am saying though.  You may 
be reacting to me out of a perception that I am a marketing and spamming 
devil incarnate.  You know I wonder Tim if I could say anything at all 
that would help you have a more accurate impression of me. It seems to me 
that you have decided that I am who you think I am and that nothing I say 
is going to change your mind.  

Thanks again for your input Tim but may I suggest that you email me with 
any further "advice".  If you respect this newgroup like I do let's you 
and I stop posting on this thread in public.  If I was indeed a marketing 
devil in disguise I would love to continue our discussions on a public 
forum as a way of trying to wiggle in my marketing hype.  But since 
I am not how about you and I communicating further through emails 
instead?  Unless of course you yourself have some desire to continue 
blasting me in public for some reason or see any benefit to continuing 
this dialog in public.  

Thanks.

---
Carlos 
www.internetsuccess.ca (not operational yet)


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:43:06 GMT
From: Carlos C. Gonzalez <aperlprogrammer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: How do you get paid for Perl work over the Internet??
Message-Id: <MPG.1634ce581cf1b02b9897b5@news.edmonton.telusplanet.net>

Joe Schaefer at joe+usenet@sunstarsys.com said...

> Carlos C. Gonzalez <aperlprogrammer@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > If they want work done very quickly they should also go to 
> > experienced programmers but if the difference between getting things done 
> > in 1 day verses 4 (I'm really stretching it here) is no big deal to them 
> > why not save themselves some money?  
> 
> If anything, that's an understatement- a top programmer is often 10-20 times
> as productive as their *peers*. See f.e.
> 
>   http://www.construx.com/stevemcc/ieeesoftware/bp14.htm
> 

Thanks for the link to the article Joe.  

I believe the point of the article though was not to compare a top 
programmer with a beginner as in a top programmer getting things done 10-
20 times faster than a beginner.  I quote....

"In the first study on the subject, Sackman, Erikson, and Grant found 
differences of more than 20 to 1 in the time required by different 
developers to debug the same problem ("Exploratory Experimental Studies 
Comparing Online and Offline Programming Performance." Communications of 
the ACM, January 1968). This was among a group of programmers who each 
had at least 7 years of professional experience."

This time difference was between experienced programmers and not between 
experienced ones and beginners Joe.  As an example of what I was talking 
about, it seems to me that the difference between an experienced 
programmer using the CGI module to write a CGI script to process form 
input would not even be double that of a beginning programmer who had 
learned to do the same thing.  And to do it well.  

That was my point Joe.  That people would benefit from hiring beginner's 
to do what they do well at much lower rates while leaving the really 
tough stuff to those with much greater experience.  Just my opinion Joe 
which you may disagree with and that's okay.  

Thanks.

---
Carlos 
www.internetsuccess.ca (not operational yet)


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 21:28:38 GMT
From: Tim Hammerquist <tim@vegeta.ath.cx>
Subject: Re: How do you get paid for Perl work over the Internet??
Message-Id: <slrn9smm34.dph.tim@vegeta.ath.cx>

Me parece que Tim Hammerquist <tim@vegeta.ath.cx> dijo:
[ snip ]
>  Ask your subcontractors the following question.  If they can't answer
>  it, don't even bother.  If you can't figure out what's wrong with it,
>  well, maybe you could hire a Perl programmer...
>  
>  Hypothetical question: "I just moved from an Apache web server to IIS.
>  Everything's fine except for somescript.cgi; it worked fine on the other
>  server, and I made sure that the first line pointed to the location of
>  perl on the new machine. What's wrong?"
>  
>  Sometimes I think, "Well, no, that's _too_ easy."  But then I see that
>  same question show up in the newsgroup the next day...and the next.

As if my divine providence, the following message showed up on
ActiveState's Perl-Win32-Web mailing list the very next day:

> From perl-win32-web-admin@listserv.ActiveState.com  Mon Oct 15 12:35:03 2001
> Delivered-To: Perl-Win32-web@listserv.ActiveState.com
> Message-ID: <001401c15591$5955d220$0100007f@localhost>
> From: "Zol Bes" <beso70@mailbox.hu>
> To: <Perl-Win32-web@listserv.ActiveState.com>
> Subject: localhost && cgi running 
> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5
> List-Archive: <http://mailarchive.activestate.com/browse/perl-win32-web/>
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:52:04 +0200
> 
> [ omitted quoted-printable format; converted HTML format ]
> 
> Hi Lists,
> 
> I have changed my localhost to pws from sambar server.
> The problem is that ,I can't run cgi files. (Asp files are running  ).
> On sambar server I could run cgi.
> 
> writes out:
> 
> http 1.1   500 error
> 
> /the 500 error  is : 'unexpected error ' or internal server error /
> 
> the first step :
> How shall I give the perl path .
> maybe it is different (in sambar server simple was C:\perl\perl.exe )
> I tried  everything , of course I gave  a virtual name to the the perl/bin
> directory
> and tried : #!/perl  , #!/perl/bin ,#!/perl/bin/perl.exe  etc .didn't work as
> don't work
> with #!c:\perl\perl.exe   , and writes out  the same 500 error in every
> attempt.
> 
> thanks :
> Zol
> _______________________________________________
> Perl-Win32-Web mailing list
> Perl-Win32-Web@listserv.ActiveState.com
> http://listserv.ActiveState.com/mailman/listinfo/perl-win32-web

-- 
For every problem, there is one solution
which is simple, neat and wrong.
    -- H. L. Mencken


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Date: 15 Oct 2001 09:55:25 -0700
From: ineverreadanythingsenttome@hotmail.com (David Filmer)
Subject: How to undef many vars at once
Message-Id: <91754e1d.0110150855.e0a90a8@posting.google.com>

I want to do something like:

    undef $a $b $c;

but it seems I have to

    undef $a; undef $b; undef $c;

Surely there's a better way - anyone know?


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:09:26 +0200
From: Laocoon <Laocoon@eudoramail.com>
Subject: Re: How to undef many vars at once
Message-Id: <Xns913BC2E3C48F8Laocooneudoramailcom@62.153.159.134>

$a = $b = undef;
($a,$b) = undef;


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:18:56 GMT
From: Steven Smolinski <steven.smolinski@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: How to undef many vars at once
Message-Id: <4UEy7.2911$Cw4.758561@news20.bellglobal.com>

David Filmer <ineverreadanythingsenttome@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I want to do something like:
> 
>     undef $a $b $c;
> 
> but it seems I have to
> 
>     undef $a; undef $b; undef $c;
> 
> Surely there's a better way - anyone know?

undef is a unary operator, not a list operator, so you have to use it
that way.

What about a loop?

undef $_ for ($a, $b, $c);

Steve
-- 
Steven Smolinski => http://arbiter.ca/
GnuPG Public Key => http://arbiter.ca/steves_public_key.txt
                 => or email me with 'auto-key' in the subject.
Key Fingerprint  => 08C8 6481 3A7B 2A1C 7C26  A5FC 1A1B 66AB F637 495D


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:11:33 -0700
From: "tszeto" <tszeto@mindspring.com>
Subject: ImageMagick or Gimp??
Message-Id: <9qfjin$4qf$1@slb5.atl.mindspring.net>

I'd like to write a script to convert Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator files
to thumbnails.

What's the best way to do this? Should I use ImageMagick or the Gimp?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,
Ted







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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:52:37 -0500
From: trammell@haqq.hypersloth.invalid (John J. Trammell)
Subject: Re: ImageMagick or Gimp??
Message-Id: <slrn9smml5.fam.trammell@haqq.hypersloth.net>

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:11:33 -0700, tszeto <tszeto@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I'd like to write a script to convert Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator files
> to thumbnails.
[snip]
> Should I use ImageMagick or the Gimp?

Yes, you should definitely use ImageMagick or the Gimp.



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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:13:26 +0200
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_B=E4tzler?= <Thomas@Baetzler.de>
Subject: Re: LWP::UserAgent NT and Solaris difference
Message-Id: <nctlst8o7f597o5gl84v5icjglg7oqtrjj@4ax.com>

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, mbower@ibuk.bankgesellschaft.de (mbower) wrote:

>The code below works fine under Solaris, but reults in corrupted jpg
>files under NT.
[...]
>open(FH,">/temp/testfile");

binmode( FH );

See perlopentut.

HTH,
-- 
use strict;my($i,$t,@r)=(0,'5 -.@BHJPT4acd6e2hk2lmn2o4r2s3tuz',map{ord}
split//,unpack('u*','L#`T&)QD5#0`#!!`#%1D)#08`#P05!!(3``$$"``#"0L&``('.
'"`P<!`````0$`'));$t=~s/(\d)(.)/$2x$1/eg;map{$t.=substr$t,$i,1,''while
$_--;$i++}@r;print"$t\n";# Thomas@Baetzler.de - http://baetzler.de/perl


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Date: 15 Oct 2001 09:51:25 -0700
From: stefan.bauer@usa.net (Stefan Bauer)
Subject: Oracle PL/SQL from Perl?
Message-Id: <362b3576.0110150851.315d1469@posting.google.com>

I have a (rather complex) piece of PL/Sql (That cannot be easily
converted into a package)that has been tested, and is functioning.

What is the best way (hopefully other than a system call to plsql) to
execute an already written piece of PL/SQL from with in perl?


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:18:14 -0600
From: Ron Reidy <ron@indra.com>
Subject: Re: Oracle PL/SQL from Perl?
Message-Id: <3BCB1A56.75D25BB5@indra.com>

Stefan Bauer wrote:
> 
> I have a (rather complex) piece of PL/Sql (That cannot be easily
> converted into a package)that has been tested, and is functioning.
> 
> What is the best way (hopefully other than a system call to plsql) to
> execute an already written piece of PL/SQL from with in perl?
Look at the DBD::Oracle POD.  There are some examples that show how to
execute PL/SQL of various types.
-- 
Ron Reidy
Oracle DBA
Reidy Consulting, L.L.C.


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:10:36 GMT
From: garry@ifr.zvolve.net (Garry Williams)
Subject: Re: perl -e '$a="\'";print "$a\n"'  What's wrong with it ?
Message-Id: <slrn9slv3c.j0p.garry@zfw.zvolve.net>

On 15 Oct 2001 07:05:02 -0700, Laird <kenlaird@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I would like to print '  and use it for some tests.
> I tried this 
> 
> perl -e '$a="\'";print "$a\n"'
> 
> but it yields 
>>
> 
> Any idea what's wrong with it?

See your shell documentation.  

-- 
Garry Williams


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:33:47 +0100
From: "Chris Morris" <chris_h_morris@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Perl and Win32
Message-Id: <9qevl1$gis$1@chilli.nntp.netline.net.uk>


"Carsten Menke" <bootsy52@gmx.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2001.10.14.13.36.08.86.2432@gmx.net...
> Well, this was not possible in Win98 and from your post I see that it is
> not possible until today :-)
>
> So you have to call it explicit C:\perl yourscript.pl
>
> But if you look in the ENVIROMENT VARIALBES of NT for example you see one
> called PATHTEXT (hmmm, or similar) with the contents of .EXE;.BAT;COM. I
> also do not know how where to add something to this variable but you
> could try to add .PL. > Carsten

I use ActiveState Perl on Win98 no problem. The shebang line is ignored.
Windows uses the file extension - why you click on any .pl file, it starts
perl.exe to interpret it. This is set when you install ASPN Perl, or you can
set it in the file explorer.

WinME doesn't seem suitable as a development platfrom to me - it takes too
many decisions for you.




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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:26:37 -0500
From: Cameron Dorey <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
Subject: Re: Perl and Win32
Message-Id: <3BCB386D.F78A0E48@mail.uca.edu>

Darlene Murphy wrote:
> 
> I am trying to get perl to run under WinME.  I have done web sites on
> unix systems with perl and they work fine.
> 
> For WinMe I am using WinSite and ActiveState Perl.  It dose not
> recognize #!g:\perl\bin\perl.  What should I use?  Also how do we put
> comments in our perl scripts.

This is a WinSite problem, not Perl. I don't have any problem using Perl
under WinME, it works just the same as under Win98 (which means, despite
some others stating to the contrary, just fine).

Read your WinSite docs.

Cameron

-- 
Cameron Dorey
Associate Professor of Chemistry
University of Central Arkansas
Phone: 501-450-5938
camerond@mail.uca.edu


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Date: 15 Oct 2001 08:46:54 -0700
From: miko@idocs.com (Miko O'Sullivan)
Subject: Perl wish list
Message-Id: <db27ea77.0110150746.13186f03@posting.google.com>

It appears that there used to be a public Perl wish list run the by
the Perl Institute (RIP).  Is there such a public wish list now?  Like
so many here, I love the language of Perl and would like to help in
its growth.

I specifically have some ideas on Perl6.  Yeah, I know, I'm coming in
late on that, but most of my ideas have more to do with distribution
and less with the language structure itself or how the binaries are
coded, so my ideas may yet be timely.

-Miko
print "Just another marketer/Perl hacker\n";


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Date: 15 Oct 2001 15:49:19 GMT
From: Bernard El-Hagin <bernard.el-hagin@lido-tech.net>
Subject: Re: Perl wish list
Message-Id: <slrn9sm106.85e.bernard.el-hagin@gdndev25.lido-tech>

On 15 Oct 2001 08:46:54 -0700, Miko O'Sullivan <miko@idocs.com> wrote:
> It appears that there used to be a public Perl wish list run the by
> the Perl Institute (RIP).  Is there such a public wish list now?  Like
> so many here, I love the language of Perl and would like to help in
> its growth.
> 
> I specifically have some ideas on Perl6.  Yeah, I know, I'm coming in
> late on that, but most of my ideas have more to do with distribution
> and less with the language structure itself or how the binaries are
> coded, so my ideas may yet be timely.


Search:


www.perl.com


Cheers,
Bernard


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 12:04:15 -0400
From: brian d foy <comdog@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Perl wish list
Message-Id: <comdog-21FB71.12041515102001@news.panix.com>

In article <db27ea77.0110150746.13186f03@posting.google.com>, 
miko@idocs.com (Miko O'Sullivan) wrote:

> It appears that there used to be a public Perl wish list run the by
> the Perl Institute (RIP).  Is there such a public wish list now?  Like
> so many here, I love the language of Perl and would like to help in
> its growth.

    http://dev.perl.org

-- 
brian d foy <comdog@panix.com> - Perl services for hire
CGI Meta FAQ - http://www.perl.org/CGI_MetaFAQ.html
Troubleshooting CGI scripts - http://www.perl.org/troubleshooting_CGI.html



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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:31:58 GMT
From: Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
Subject: Re: Perl wish list
Message-Id: <i4Fy7.90619$NT3.10111207@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>

Miko O'Sullivan <miko@idocs.com> wrote:
> I specifically have some ideas on Perl6.  Yeah, I know, I'm coming in
> late on that, but most of my ideas have more to do with distribution
> and less with the language structure itself or how the binaries are
> coded, so my ideas may yet be timely.

The mailing lists are hanging off of http://dev.perl.org. Join
one and dive in. Distribution issues, AFAIK, haven't seen much
discussion yet.

					Dan


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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 14:55:23 -0500
From: "Mr. Sunblade" <djberge@qwest.com>
Subject: Re: Problems installing Archive::Tar
Message-Id: <y6Hy7.487$y7.144996@news.uswest.net>


"Usyk, Walter [SKY:1P67:EXCH]" <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com> wrote in message
news:3BC5DE4E.52F75821@americasm01.nt.com...
> I'm trying to compile and build Archive::Tar and I get the following
> error below when running nmake test. Does anyone have an idea why this
> is
> happening?
<snip>

Looks suspiciously like a bug with regards to Win32.  Please email the
author and show him/her this.

Regards,

Mr. Sunblade




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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:06:44 -0400
From: "Usyk, Walter [SKY:1P67:EXCH]" <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com>
To: Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
Subject: Re: Problems with ActiveState and MCPAN
Message-Id: <3BCAFB84.67D93CD8@americasm01.nt.com>

The problem is that the modules that I need are not in the ActiveState archive. That is why
I attempted to use CPAN

Any ideas???

Walter

Dan Sugalski wrote:

> In comp.lang.perl.modules Usyk, Walter [SKY:1P67:EXCH] <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com> wrote:
> > I compiled and installed the ActiveState perl 5.6.1. I'm trying to
> > install packages using MCPAN but I get the error below. Does anyone have
> > an idea why this is happening. I'm running Windows NT and compiled using
> > VC++ 6.
>
> Try using PPM instead, if the module you want is in ActiveState's archive.
>
>                                         Dan

--
Walter Usyk - Tools Developer
Software Development Environment Tools (1P67)
email: wusyk@nortelnetworks.com
ESN: 398-4603
Tel: (613) 768-4603




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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:16:26 -0400
From: "Usyk, Walter [SKY:1P67:EXCH]" <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com>
To: Thomas =?koi8-r?Q?B=C4tzler?= <Thomas@Baetzler.de>
Subject: Re: Problems with ActiveState and MCPAN
Message-Id: <3BCAFDCA.F1DFFDEC@americasm01.nt.com>

I just checked the Config.pm for UNIX and I do not need the lynx and ncft=
pget
bin's. Are these required for Windows only? What are they used for?

Thanks for your help

Walter

Thomas B=C4tzler wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, "Usyk, Walter [SKY:1P67:EXCH]"
> <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com> wrote:
>
> >I compiled and installed the ActiveState perl 5.6.1. I'm trying to
> >install packages using MCPAN but I get the error below. Does anyone ha=
ve
> >an idea why this is happening. I'm running Windows NT and compiled usi=
ng
> >VC++ 6.
> [...]
> >Going to read F:\.cpan\sources\authors\01mailrc.txt.gz
> >The name specified is not recognized as an
> >internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
> [...]
>
> Looks like you're missing some of the support binaries like lynx or
> ncftpget. Checking Config.pm might give you an idea what you're missing=

> here.
>
> HTH,
> --
> use strict;my($i,$t,@r)=3D(0,'5 -.@BHJPT4acd6e2hk2lmn2o4r2s3tuz',map{or=
d}
> split//,unpack('u*','L#`T&)QD5#0`#!!`#%1D)#08`#P05!!(3``$$"``#"0L&``('.=

> '"`P<!`````0$`'));$t=3D~s/(\d)(.)/$2x$1/eg;map{$t.=3Dsubstr$t,$i,1,''wh=
ile
> $_--;$i++}@r;print"$t\n";# Thomas@Baetzler.de - http://baetzler.de/perl=


--
Walter Usyk - Tools Developer
Software Development Environment Tools (1P67)
email: wusyk@nortelnetworks.com
ESN: 398-4603
Tel: (613) 768-4603




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Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:30:26 GMT
From: Dan Sugalski <dan@tuatha.sidhe.org>
Subject: Re: Problems with ActiveState and MCPAN
Message-Id: <S2Fy7.90618$NT3.10111041@news1.rdc1.ct.home.com>

In comp.lang.perl.modules Usyk, Walter [SKY:1P67:EXCH] <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com> wrote:
> The problem is that the modules that I need are not in the ActiveState archive. That is why
> I attempted to use CPAN

> Any ideas???

Do it by hand. (And don't stealth CC on replies) It's not that
big a deal...

					Dan

>> In comp.lang.perl.modules Usyk, Walter [SKY:1P67:EXCH] <wusyk@americasm01.nt.com> wrote:
>> > I compiled and installed the ActiveState perl 5.6.1. I'm trying to
>> > install packages using MCPAN but I get the error below. Does anyone have
>> > an idea why this is happening. I'm running Windows NT and compiled using
>> > VC++ 6.
>>
>> Try using PPM instead, if the module you want is in ActiveState's archive.
>>
>>                                         Dan

> --
> Walter Usyk - Tools Developer
> Software Development Environment Tools (1P67)
> email: wusyk@nortelnetworks.com
> ESN: 398-4603
> Tel: (613) 768-4603




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