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Perl-Users Digest           Fri, 31 Aug 2001     Volume: 10 Number: 1670

Today's topics:
    Re: NT Query nobull@mail.com
        Open 2 exes from Perl (George K)
    Re: perl and oracle (Hardy Merrill)
    Re: Perl editor for win32 needed (Chris Harris)
        Perl script calling shell script failing (Google_Don)
        Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision:  tadmc@augustmail.com
    Re: Programming sockets <Crazydj@web.de>
    Re: registration worries (Mark Jason Dominus)
        Running multiple procedures simultaneously <akirby@wharton.upenn.edu>
        Thanks <jclover@nati.org>
    Re: Using perl for a server daemon????? <bseib@jade.cc.purdue.edu>
    Re: Weird -w behaviour (Benoit Gauthier)
        Which modules have I added? <jcook@strobedata.com>
    Re: Which modules have I added? <ronh@iainc.com>
    Re: Which modules have I added? (Mark Jason Dominus)
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: 31 Aug 2001 18:33:58 +0100
From: nobull@mail.com
Subject: Re: NT Query
Message-Id: <u9vgj49lrt.fsf@wcl-l.bham.ac.uk>

<e2e4@pacbell.net> writes:

> I'm trying to connnect to a server on our network remotely, and get a list
> of all the active users for use in a perl script (for the boss).  I can look
> at the server using PerfMon, but don't see how to get the list of users into
> a script.  Anyone know?

You mean you are able to get this information via PerfMon?

I didn't think this information actually existed at all in the NT
world!

The nearest I've ever managed to do was a Perl script that connected
to the server and searched backwards through the Security event log
(back as far as the last system reboot event) and reported any login
event that wasn't matched by a logout event.

Of course this can give both false positives and false negatives.

-- 
     \\   ( )
  .  _\\__[oo
 .__/  \\ /\@
 .  l___\\
  # ll  l\\
 ###LL  LL\\


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Date: 31 Aug 2001 10:33:11 -0700
From: gkdata@cs.com (George K)
Subject: Open 2 exes from Perl
Message-Id: <5b5f48f5.0108310933.1b78a448@posting.google.com>

I am running Windoz 2000 and ActivePerl 5.6 (this is my work box - at
home I run RH :)

I am trying to do the following 2 things from one script:
- change the current directory of my command window to another
directory
- open Win Notepad.exe

The closest I've come is 
system ('c:\winnt\notepad.exe');
system ('%SystemRoot%\system32\cmd.exe');
wait();

BUT I have many issues!

The main problem is that while I can open Notepad I lose the command
window- it freezes up with no cursor. It seems like it is waiting for
Notepad to finish. As a matter of fact, when I close Notepad, the
cursor reappears in the command window.

So my question is : is it possible to call and run two seperate exe
files from a single perl script? If so, could you point me to the
proper docs so I can learn how? (I'd rather learn myself than have you
GIVE me the answer.)

Any ides would be greatly appreciated.


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Date: 31 Aug 2001 10:17:45 -0700
From: merrill@missioncriticallinux.com (Hardy Merrill)
Subject: Re: perl and oracle
Message-Id: <fdfedf4b.0108310917.d084cc5@posting.google.com>

Philippe PERRIN <philippe.perrin@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr> wrote in message news:<3B8F4E94.55317394@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr>...
> "Manuel Körner" wrote:
> > The perlcode looks like:
> > my $sth=$dbh->prepare("insert into table values(?,?,?));
> > $sth->execute("sequence.nextval", "test", "sysdate");
> > I know the quotes for "sequence.nextval" and "sysdate" are wrong.
> 
> I use a command string like :
> "insert into table values(seq_commande.nextval,$num_cl,SYSDATE,$type)"
> 
> So I use Oracle's SYSDATE function, instead of Perl.
> And it works fine (with me :-)

I don't think you can use placeholders in place of SYSDATE or
sequence.nextval - those 2 things need to be *in* the actual sql.  I
tried using them with placeholders like you, but I couldn't get them
to work.

Here's yours:

   my $sth=$dbh->prepare("insert into table values(?,?,?));
   $sth->execute("sequence.nextval", "test", "sysdate");

Here's what I think you will need:

   my $sth=$dbh->prepare(qq{
        insert into table
        values (sequence.nextval, ?, sysdate)
   });
   $sth->execute("test");

HTH
--
Hardy Merrill
Mission Critical Linux, Inc.
http://www.missioncriticallinux.com


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:45:11 GMT
From: clh8762@hotmail.com (Chris Harris)
Subject: Re: Perl editor for win32 needed
Message-Id: <3b8fbef3.160781001@news.networktel.net>

On Tue, 07 Aug 2001 10:09:17 GMT, "Nikolas Garofil"
<nikolas_garofil@hotmail.com> wrote:

>What is the best editor to write perl scripts in Windows 98
>
>
SciTE
http://www.scintilla.org


Chris


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Date: 31 Aug 2001 09:31:23 -0700
From: dvmak@att.net (Google_Don)
Subject: Perl script calling shell script failing
Message-Id: <74d22f15.0108310831.263d93ed@posting.google.com>

I have a dynamic web page that on Post calls a perl script. This is
used for uploading files from a PC to a server. In the perl script I
call a shell script that ftp's the file to another server. (If we had
NET:FTP installed I'd use that)

When all is done the perl script calls another web page where the
status is displayed.

The problem:

The file does get created and the ftp succeeds, the url is built for
return but I keep getting the Apache Internal server error and the log
shows:
<ip cut> malformed header from script. Bad header=File Transfer
Successful <dir cut>

If I remark out the actual system call all is fine. 

Something with the display of the output and return from the shell
script that perl doesn't like. What am I missing here?

Thanks


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:33:56 GMT
From: tadmc@augustmail.com
Subject: Posting Guidelines for comp.lang.perl.misc ($Revision: 1.2 $)
Message-Id: <8UPj7.34126$4b5.855678@news6.giganews.com>

Outline
   Before posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Must
       - Check the Perl Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
       - Check the other standard Perl docs (*.pod)
      Really Really Should
       - Lurk for a while before posting
       - Search a Usenet archive
      If You Like
       - Check Other Resources
   Posting to comp.lang.perl.misc
      Is there a better place to ask your question?
       - Question should be about Perl, not about the application area
      How to participate (post) in the clpmisc community
       - Carefully choose the contents of your Subject header
       - Use an effective followup style
       - Speak Perl rather than English, when possible
       - Ask perl to help you
       - Do not re-type Perl code
       - Provide enough information
       - Do not provide too much information
       - Do not post binaries, HTML, or MIME
      Social faux pas to avoid
       - Asking a Frequently Asked Question
       - Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
       - Asking for emailed answers
       - Beware of saying "doesn't work"
       - Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
      Be extra cautious when you get upset
       - Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
       - Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
-----------------------------------------------------------------

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        your program.

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        getting.

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  Social faux pas to avoid

    The first two below are symptoms of lots of FAQ asking here in clpmisc.
    It happens so often that folks will assume that it is happening yet
    again. If you have looked but not found, or found but didn't understand
    the docs, say so in your article.

    Asking a Frequently Asked Question
        It should be understood that you may have missed the applicable FAQ
        when you checked, which is not a big deal. But if the Frequently
        Asked Question is worded similar to your question, folks will assume
        that you did not look at all. Don't become indignant at pointers to
        the FAQ, particularly if it solves your problem.

    Asking a question easily answered by a cursory doc search
        If folks think you have not even tried the obvious step of reading
        the docs applicable to your problem, they are likely to become
        annoyed.

        If you are flamed for not checking when you *did* check, then just
        shrug it off (and take the answer that you got).

    Asking for emailed answers
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        entire community. If folks can take the time to answer your
        question, then you can take the time to go get the answer in the
        same place where you asked the question.

        It is OK to ask for a *copy* of the answer to be emailed, but many
        will ignore such requests anyway. If you munge your address, you
        should never expect (or ask) to get email in response to a Usenet
        post.

        Ask the question here, get the answer here (maybe).

    Beware of saying "doesn't work"
        This is a "red flag" phrase. If you find yourself writing that,
        pause and see if you can't describe what is not working without
        saying "doesn't work". That is, describe how it is not what you
        want.

    Sending a "stealth" Cc copy
        A "stealth Cc" is when you both email and post a reply without
        indicating *in the body* that you are doing so.

  Be extra cautious when you get upset

    Count to ten before composing a followup when you are upset
        This is recommended in all Usenet newsgroups. Here in clpmisc, most
        flaming sub-threads are not about any feature of Perl at all! They
        are most often for what was seen as a breach of netiquette. If you
        have lurked for a bit, then you will know what is expected and won't
        make such posts in the first place.

        But if you get upset, wait a while before writing your followup. I
        recommend waiting at least 30 minutes.

    Count to ten after composing and before posting when you are upset
        After you have written your followup, wait *another* 30 minutes
        before committing yourself by posting it. You cannot take it back
        once it has been said.

AUTHOR
    Tad McClellan <tadmc@augustmail.com> and many others on the
    comp.lang.perl.misc newsgroup.



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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:22:33 +0200
From: Crazydj <Crazydj@web.de>
Subject: Re: Programming sockets
Message-Id: <3B8FABB9.38BAD8E2@web.de>

Ronald Blaschke schrieb:

> On Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:33:07 +0200, Crazydj <Crazydj@web.de> wrote:
> > Ronald Blaschke schrieb:
> >
> > > A good metaphor when thinking about TCP is a telephone line.  So, when
> > > you call someone and he picks up the line, how does he know how to
> > > talk to you? :-)
> > >
> > > I'd recommend using Net::SMTP to send an email, especially if you are
> > > not too TCP and SMTP wary.
> > >
> > > If you absolutely have to do it yourself, here are some hints:
> [ hints removed ]
> > >
> > > Don't know where to find a good tutorial.  I can recommend a book
> > > or two, though.
> > >
> > O.K I have got it, just read from the created socket ;-p
> > But I have still the problem that the SMTP server doesn't get my DATA command...
> >
> > Here is my newest version of that script:
> >
> [ script removed ]
>
> Just ran your script and it worked fine for me.  Output follows.
> ----------
> Connected.
> 220 localhost ESMTP Exim 3.12 #1 Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:43:38 +0200
>
> 250 localhost Hello rb at localhost [127.0.0.1]
>
> 250 <perllover@crazydj.de> is syntactically correct
>
> 250 <rb@localhost> is syntactically correct
>
> 354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by itself
> ---------
>
> Could you give me more details regarding your problem?  Error msg, etc.
> --

Sorry, but I recognized that there is no problem, the mail was send...
 ...but I was wondering why I didn't saw the answer "Message accepted for delivery".
 ...I have just not read enough from the socket :-(

--
Djz rule the world! ...and some other staff ;-p Find out at http://www.crazydj.de





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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:00:19 GMT
From: mjd@plover.com (Mark Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: registration worries
Message-Id: <3b8fc2a2.2b51$38c@news.op.net>

In article <5370f8aa.0108310608.e48069d@posting.google.com>,
Mr. Green <greenseaweed@aol.com> wrote:
>Very helpful. Thanks. But I wonder if it would be more efficient to
>ditch the random method and simply count the total number of files in
>the directory and then let the file name be the total number plus one.

You mean you want the total number plus one thousand.

On average the efficiency is the same.  

I left in the random generation because I thought you might have had a
reason for putting it in, that you actually *wanted* random filenames.

-- 
@P=split//,".URRUU\c8R";@d=split//,"\nrekcah xinU / lreP rehtona tsuJ";sub p{
@p{"r$p","u$p"}=(P,P);pipe"r$p","u$p";++$p;($q*=2)+=$f=!fork;map{$P=$P[$f^ord
($p{$_})&6];$p{$_}=/ ^$P/ix?$P:close$_}keys%p}p;p;p;p;p;map{$p{$_}=~/^[P.]/&&
close$_}%p;wait until$?;map{/^r/&&<$_>}%p;$_=$d[$q];sleep rand(2)if/\S/;print


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:20:48 -0400
From: "Adam Kirby" <akirby@wharton.upenn.edu>
Subject: Running multiple procedures simultaneously
Message-Id: <9modfp$43s$1@netnews.upenn.edu>


I have a program which basically runs 5 searches (seperate procedures) one
right after the other.  I'd like to speed the program up considerably by
running these searches at the same time.  How would I go about doing this.
Since they're in the same program, can I use fork?  These procedures do
access global variables.

Thanks in advance!

Adam Kirby




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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 11:03:47 -0500
From: "Jonathan Clover" <jclover@nati.org>
Subject: Thanks
Message-Id: <tovculhd29fl03@corp.supernews.com>

Thanks all!
Jonathan

"Jonathan Clover" <jclover@nati.org> wrote in message
news:tov8vu1bmc4maf@corp.supernews.com...
> I have this code to insert a new row into a database and I would like to
> make the code, that's focused on(!) more concise, but am unsure on how.
> Ideas anyone.
> Jonathan Clover
> NATI
>
> P.S. @question will always and only contain 10 values
>
>    my $dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:CSV:f_dir=$database_dir")
>     or diehtml("Cannot connect: " . $DBI::errstr);
>
> !   $dbh->do( "insert into test_ans values
>
('$test','$questions[0]','$questions[1]','$questions[2]','$questions[3]','$q
>
uestions[4]','$questions[5]','$questions[6]','$questions[7]','$questions[8]'
> ,'$questions[9]')" )
> !    or diehtml("Cannot do: " . $dbh->errstr());
>
>    $dbh->disconnect();
>
>
>




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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 16:14:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Broc Seib <bseib@jade.cc.purdue.edu>
Subject: Re: Using perl for a server daemon?????
Message-Id: <9mod5v$n5v$1@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>

Gary Cub <gary@irl.com> wrote:
[snip]
>   Also, if there is no reasons not to use PERL why then are more
> server daemons written in PERL??

you might check out POE:  http://poe.perl.org/
and see if it is appropriate for you.

-b


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:46:21 GMT
From: gauthier@circum.com (Benoit Gauthier)
Subject: Re: Weird -w behaviour
Message-Id: <3b8fcd49.29736175@news.videotron.ca>

(2001.08.31, 13:45)

>> 1) How do you figure out there were carriage returns?
>Do you think you are the first person with this problem?  :-)

Touché.

Thanks very much for your help. I have located the problem and fixed
it.

Benoît Gauthier


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Date: 31 Aug 2001 16:49:00 GMT
From: Jim Cook <jcook@strobedata.com>
Subject: Which modules have I added?
Message-Id: <3B8FBFFB.68F7428E@strobedata.com>

Well, I've gone and done something stupid.

Now that I've added several modules to my perl installation, I find that
I might want to upgrade my version of perl. Of course, I didn't keep the
original modules around, so I don't know what I should put back to keep
my existing set of scripts working.

Is there a way to tell from within perl what's been added, so I can do a
fresh download / compile / install of perl and modules?

Thanks in advance for any effort you spend on this.

--
jcook@strobedata.com  Live Honourably  4/1 - 4/3 + 4/5 - 4/7 + . . .
2001 Wed: Feb/last 4/4 6/6 8/8/ 10/10 12/12 9/5 5/9 7/11 11/7 3/14
Strobe Data Inc. home page   http://www.strobedata.com
My home page    O-           http://jcook.net


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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:10:15 GMT
From: "Ron Hartikka" <ronh@iainc.com>
Subject: Re: Which modules have I added?
Message-Id: <XxPj7.42426$Hm.419662@typhoon.mw.mediaone.net>

Three answers:

1) You can use ppm verify.

2) If you...

perl -c use_nonexistant_module.pl

 ...perl  just compiles your program - won't even try to execute. If your
program contains a module not correctly installed,  you get a
message:

Can't locate Notexist_here.pm in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/lib
C:/Perl/site/lib .) at C:\Ron\perl\examples\use_non_existant_module.pl line
1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
C:\Ron\perl\examples\use_non_existant_module.pl line 1.

3) If you want the names of modules installed, try this:

for(@INC){
 opendir DIR, $_;
 print join "\n", grep /pm$/, readdir DIR;
}

 ...which printed...

AnyDBM_File.pm
attributes.pm
attrs.pm
AutoLoader.pm
AutoSplit.pm
autouse.pm
B.pm
base.pm
Benchmark.pm
blib.pm
ByteLoader.pm
bytes.pm
Carp.pm
CGI.pm
charnames.pm
Config.pm
constant.pm
CPAN.pm
Cwd.pm
DB.pm
diagnostics.pm
DirHandle.pm
Dumpvalue.pm
DynaLoader.pm
English.pm
Env.pm
Errno.pm
Exporter.pm
Fatal.pm
Fcntl.pm
fields.pm
FileCache.pm
FileHandle.pm
filetest.pm
FindBin.pm
integer.pm
IO.pm
less.pm
lib.pm
locale.pm
O.pm
Opcode.pm
open.pm
ops.pm
overload.pm
POSIX.pm
re.pm
Safe.pm
SDBM_File.pm
SelectSaver.pm
SelfLoader.pm
Shell.pm
sigtrap.pm
Socket.pm
strict.pm
subs.pm
Symbol.pm
Test.pm
Thread.pm
UNIVERSAL.pm
utf8.pm
vars.pm
warnings.pm
XSLoader.pmDigest.pm
LWP.pm
MD5.pm
OLE.pm
PPM.pm
SHA.pm
SOAP.pm
URI.pm
Win32.pm
Tk.pm
Storable.pm

 ... on this machine.




"Jim Cook" <jcook@strobedata.com> wrote in message
news:3B8FBFFB.68F7428E@strobedata.com...
> Well, I've gone and done something stupid.
>
> Now that I've added several modules to my perl installation, I find that
> I might want to upgrade my version of perl. Of course, I didn't keep the
> original modules around, so I don't know what I should put back to keep
> my existing set of scripts working.
>
> Is there a way to tell from within perl what's been added, so I can do a
> fresh download / compile / install of perl and modules?
>
> Thanks in advance for any effort you spend on this.
>
> --
> jcook@strobedata.com  Live Honourably  4/1 - 4/3 + 4/5 - 4/7 + . . .
> 2001 Wed: Feb/last 4/4 6/6 8/8/ 10/10 12/12 9/5 5/9 7/11 11/7 3/14
> Strobe Data Inc. home page   http://www.strobedata.com
> My home page    O-           http://jcook.net






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Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:12:54 GMT
From: mjd@plover.com (Mark Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: Which modules have I added?
Message-Id: <3b8fc596.2ba6$169@news.op.net>

In article <3B8FBFFB.68F7428E@strobedata.com>,
Jim Cook  <jcook@strobedata.com> wrote:
>Is there a way to tell from within perl what's been added, so I can do a
>fresh download / compile / install of perl and modules?

1. Try 'perldoc perllocal'.

2. The CPAN module ('perldoc CPAN') may have a featur that does what
   you want.


-- 
@P=split//,".URRUU\c8R";@d=split//,"\nrekcah xinU / lreP rehtona tsuJ";sub p{
@p{"r$p","u$p"}=(P,P);pipe"r$p","u$p";++$p;($q*=2)+=$f=!fork;map{$P=$P[$f^ord
($p{$_})&6];$p{$_}=/ ^$P/ix?$P:close$_}keys%p}p;p;p;p;p;map{$p{$_}=~/^[P.]/&&
close$_}%p;wait until$?;map{/^r/&&<$_>}%p;$_=$d[$q];sleep rand(2)if/\S/;print


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