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Perl-Users Digest           Sun, 24 Jun 2001     Volume: 10 Number: 1182

Today's topics:
    Re: command line news posting tools <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
    Re: fork and pass message while waiting (Rolf Krahl)
        Form Input <zoodoo@infantry.com>
    Re: Form Input <mbudash@sonic.net>
        how can i compile a perl program <surajsid@sharbatlyvillage.com.sa>
    Re: How i Install Perl module in NT platform (Eli)
        How to automatically ANNOUNCE my module ?? With a scrip <murat.uenalan@gmx.de>
        MySQL Question <SiStie@nuclear-network.com>
        passing variables the 'right' way <patelnavin@icenet.net>
    Re: passing variables the 'right' way <sumus@aut.dk>
    Re: Password encryption (Villy Kruse)
    Re: perl book <mvanle@dingoblue.net.au>
    Re: perl book (Tad McClellan)
        Regular Expressions == How to use grep ? <mvanle@dingoblue.net.au>
        require 'question' <patelnavin@icenet.net>
    Re: require 'question' (Zur Aougav)
    Re: Search and replace ONLY outside "quotes" <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
    Re: simple reference question (Joe Smith)
        simulating multi-thread (Yossi)
    Re: Six degrees of separation (Greg Bacon)
    Re: Six degrees of separation (David H. Adler)
    Re: variables from cookie ? (David Efflandt)
        what would be better? (lots of files vs 1 file) <patelnavin@icenet.net>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:18:05 -0400
From: Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: command line news posting tools
Message-Id: <3B35861D.A13A6D66@earthlink.net>

* Tong * wrote:
> 
> * Tong * <sun_tong@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> 
> > Please suggest a news posting tool that can be used from command
> > line, which has the function that like 'sendmail -t' (scanned
> > message for headers) TIA
> 
> Thanks Philip Newton for sharing his code with me. Here is my
> shell-script solution: (Oh, programming in Perl is just fun)
> 
>   perl -e '
>     use strict;
>     use Net::NNTP;
> 
>     my $n = Net::NNTP->new("news");
>     my @article = <>;
>     $n->post(\@article) or die "Post error: $!";
>     $n->quit;' ${1+"$@"}
> 
> Tested and worked perfectly.
> 
> Note from Phil, This just blasts the pipe content (which must be a
> complete news article, with Newsgroups:, From:, Subject:,
> etc. headers) to the news server mentioned.

First off, -Mmodule might be prefered to "use" if your doing shell stuff
like this, second, most shells support a here-document syntax...
perl -Mstrict -MNet::NNTP <<__END__ ${1+"$@"}
    my $n = Net::NNTP->new("news");
    my @article = <>;
    $n->post(\@article) or die "Post error: $!";
    $n->quit;
__END__

Note, this is untested.

-- 
The longer a man is wrong, the surer he is that he's right.


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Date: 24 Jun 2001 11:32:57 GMT
From: rolf.krahl@gmx.net (Rolf Krahl)
Subject: Re: fork and pass message while waiting
Message-Id: <9h4j59$2sa$3@rotkraut.de>

In article <1104_993054755@jenda>,
	Jenda Krynicky <Jenda@Krynicky.cz> writes:
> On 12 Jun 2001 22:04:51 GMT, rolf.krahl@gmx.net (Rolf Krahl) wrote:
>> 
>> | $SIG{CHLD} = \&handle_chld;
>> 
>> Note that these are fragments from some of my scripts that run on Unix
>> systems.  Since i only work with Unix, i have no idea if this might
>> work with other OS's.
> 
> It would not on Win32.

Because they don't have signals on Win32?  I already doubted this.

-- 
		   Rolf Krahl <rolf.krahl@gmx.net>


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:37:05 GMT
From: "zoodoo" <zoodoo@infantry.com>
Subject: Form Input
Message-Id: <5xiZ6.3014$5D5.415517@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

This is an extremely n00bical question (if there's such word). I have no
idea what's causing the problem.

My sole purpose is to say His name is blah. He is blah years old.

#!/usr/bin/perl

use CGI;

print "Hi", param('name'), "How are you?<br>/n";
print "Hi. You are", param('age'), "years old.<br>/n";





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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 03:37:53 -0700
From: Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: Form Input
Message-Id: <mbudash-8EA6A4.03375324062001@news.pacbell.net>

In article <5xiZ6.3014$5D5.415517@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, 
"zoodoo" <zoodoo@infantry.com> wrote:

> This is an extremely n00bical question (if there's such word). I have no
> idea what's causing the problem.
> 
> My sole purpose is to say His name is blah. He is blah years old.
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> 
> use CGI;
> 
> print "Hi", param('name'), "How are you?<br>/n";
> print "Hi. You are", param('age'), "years old.<br>/n";
> 
> 

er, you haven'ts tstaed what the problem IS... how are you calling this 
script? (i'm assuming it's specified as the action of a form.) what 
happens when you run it? (i'm assuming 'internal server error.)

if my assumptions are correct, try this:

#!/usr/bin/perl

# the 'standard' is so you can use the CGI methods
#  creating a CGI object first.
use CGI qw/:standard/;

# you'll need this if you're running the script as a CGI script
print header();

print "Hi ", param('name'), ". How are you?<br>/n";
print "Hi. You are ", param('age'), " years old.<br>/n";

hth-
-- 
Michael Budash ~~~~~~~~~~ mbudash@sonic.net


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:49:31 +0300
From: "Suraj Siddique" <surajsid@sharbatlyvillage.com.sa>
Subject: how can i compile a perl program
Message-Id: <993386227.563610@news>

how can i compile a perl program to make an excecutable




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Date: 24 Jun 2001 00:59:00 -0700
From: ELI@PELEPHONE.CO.IL (Eli)
Subject: Re: How i Install Perl module in NT platform
Message-Id: <3e7e9299.0106232359.51e0000e@posting.google.com>

Philip Newton <pne-news-20010620@newton.digitalspace.net> wrote in message news:<tlb1jtk237ngci100kfaiefqmhvakv85s2@4ax.com>...
> On 20 Jun 2001 06:45:46 -0700, ELI@PELEPHONE.CO.IL (Eli) wrote:
> 
> > how i install module on NT platform
> 
> The easiest way, with ActivePerl, is with ppm. If you are using the
> ActivePerl distribution (likely, since you're on NT), and the module you
> want to use is available pre-packaged with ppm (quite a few of CPAN's
> modules are, at least for AP >= 620 or so), then it's as simple as
> 
>     C> ppm install The-Module
> 
> for The::Module.
> 
> Cheers,
> Philip


HI FOLKS
about how to install perl module on NT platform
philip thank for the quick answer but i have problem to install the module
for example :
i have the Expect-1.11.tar module
i run the following command
ppm install Expect-1.11.tar 
and i get error message 
retrieving package Expect-1.11.tar 
could not locate a PPM binary of Expect-1.11.tar  for this platform


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:16:14 +0200
From: "Murat Uenalan" <murat.uenalan@gmx.de>
Subject: How to automatically ANNOUNCE my module ?? With a script ?
Message-Id: <9h4b1c$bkeko$1@ID-71895.news.dfncis.de>

Some of you module-authors do announce into perl newsgroups, some not ? Is
there a script which does this job ? Where can i get it ?

Thanks,
Murat




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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:12:42 +0200
From: Simon Stiefel <SiStie@nuclear-network.com>
Subject: MySQL Question
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0106241205350.1062-100000@server.stiefel.priv>

Hi there,

I want to fetch the output of a mySQL-query, but vertical.
e.g.:

 ID=09status

 1=09f
 2=09r
 3=09f
 4=09r
 5=09f
=2E..

So, now all ID's with the status "r" should be fetched in an array.


How can I do this?


Thanks.


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 12:25:28 +0530
From: "Aman Patel" <patelnavin@icenet.net>
Subject: passing variables the 'right' way
Message-Id: <9h42rq$c2bnl$1@ID-93885.news.dfncis.de>

I had a question in perl, i am a experienced perl and majorly C programmer,
but I had a question.

Just as in C/++ we have the option to pass variables "more effeciently" as
pointers, like this:

char *large_variable = LOAD_A_FILE(); file://loads a very big file, lets say
20 MB.
pass_function( &large_variable ); //this only passes the address, not the 20
MB of data...

how can we do the same thing in perl?? is it like this:

my $var = slurp_a_file; #loads a big file,
pass_subroutine( \$var );

if i am right about the above code, how do we accept references in the
subroutine i.e.
sub pass_subroutine {
    my $var = shift; #will this work if someone does
ass_subroutine( \$your_var ) ???
}

well will it work? or some special syntax is needed?

thanks for reading this,
sincerley,
Aman




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Date: 24 Jun 2001 14:01:15 +0200
From: Jakob Schmidt <sumus@aut.dk>
Subject: Re: passing variables the 'right' way
Message-Id: <m2ithmnl2s.fsf@pocketlife.dk>

"Aman Patel" <patelnavin@icenet.net> writes:

> my $var = slurp_a_file; #loads a big file,
> pass_subroutine( \$var );

Yes, that will pass a reference into the sub (in $_[ 0 ]), which is much
like passing a pointer in C(\+\+)?

> if i am right about the above code, how do we accept references in the
> subroutine i.e.

As I said, $_[ 0 ] contains the reference, so ${ $_[ 0 ] } will give you
the value ($ as dereference operator - much like * in C).

But actually you may not need to go through all this if the issue is
passing by reference to avoid copying large chunks of data. Perl passes
parameters by reference by default. If you say

mysub( $hugedata );

then in mysub(), $_[ 0 ] is actually a reference (much like reference
parameters in C++ but _not_ like what's called a (hard) reference in Perl
(references in Perl are similar to pointers in C) to $hugedata. That
is you can alter $hugedata by altering $_[ 0 ]. You can say that
$_[ 0 ] is an alias for $hugedata.

As the idiom goes, we often make it seem like passing by value by saying

sub mysub {
    my ( $data ) = @_;
}

or the generally slightly stupid my $data = shift;

Here we _assign_ the value of $_[ 0 ] to $data, and so copy the data (from
eg. $hugedata).

You don't _have_ to do that, if you're passing huge data around in parameters.

The main reason for my ( $param ) = @_; is usually clarity and the only
sane reason for my $param = shift; is if you wanna alter @_ in order
to pass the rest of it to say map() og grep() or something. This is
be common in methods, where $_[ 0 ] will always be the object/class.

> sub pass_subroutine {
>     my $var = shift; #will this work if someone does
> ass_subroutine( \$your_var ) ???
> }
> 
> well will it work? or some special syntax is needed?

I've no idea, what the problem would be? Why don't you just try?

-- 
Jakob


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Date: 24 Jun 2001 12:29:22 GMT
From: vek@pharmnl.ohout.pharmapartners.nl (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Password encryption
Message-Id: <slrn9jbn8j.9g2.vek@pharmnl.ohout.pharmapartners.nl>

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:40:33 +0200,
    jean-charles savelli <jcs@netexpansion.com> wrote:


>Hello,
>
>I have RH7.1.
>
>I am trying to create a user account in PERL using
>useradd (or adduser) together with a password.
>
>On my machine passwords are 34 characters long
>
>I use a program containing two sub programs
>* authGetRandom salt
>* called  by authCryptPassword
>called by the main programm
>



On redhat you can use the builtin crypt function: if the salt
starts with the magic '$1$' sequence then the generated crypted
password will be compatible with md5 passwords as you find them
in /etc/shadow.  The salt is in this case longer than 2 characters
as is used by the old DES based passwords.



Villy


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:35:24 +1000
From: "Minh Van Le" <mvanle@dingoblue.net.au>
Subject: Re: perl book
Message-Id: <20010624.133509.502278611.2205@dingoblue.net.au>

In article <9h37cb$c1dma$1@ID-78052.news.dfncis.de>, "Unknown"
<hzi@uol.com.br> wrote:

> In article <9dp10g$k3m$1@orphan.emich.edu>, "Frank A"
> <frank673@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Can anyone refer to a good perl book Thanks.
>> 
>> Frank

Learning Perl, aka "the camel book". by Oreilly & Associates.

having done all the exercises in that book, people usually get the
reference guide "Programming Perl" by Oreilly & Associates (which is twice
as thick).


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 00:42:51 -0400
From: tadmc@augustmail.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: perl book
Message-Id: <slrn9jarub.5tj.tadmc@tadmc26.august.net>

Minh Van Le <mvanle@dingoblue.net.au> wrote:
>In article <9h37cb$c1dma$1@ID-78052.news.dfncis.de>, "Unknown"
><hzi@uol.com.br> wrote:
>
>> In article <9dp10g$k3m$1@orphan.emich.edu>, "Frank A"
>> <frank673@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Can anyone refer to a good perl book Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Frank
>
>Learning Perl, aka "the camel book". by Oreilly & Associates.
                         ^^^^^

   s/camel/llama/;


>having done all the exercises in that book, people usually get the
>reference guide "Programming Perl" by Oreilly & Associates (which is twice
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

_that's_ the camel book...


-- 
    Tad McClellan                          SGML consulting
    tadmc@augustmail.com                   Perl programming
    Fort Worth, Texas


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 22:44:03 +1000
From: "Minh Van Le" <mvanle@dingoblue.net.au>
Subject: Regular Expressions == How to use grep ?
Message-Id: <20010624.224402.1069755936.2205@dingoblue.net.au>

i need clarity on what is meant by Regular Expressions. if i bought a book
on regular expressions, eg. Mastering Regular Expressions by Oreilly &
Assc., i won't be expecting the equivalent content of "how to use grep"
would i ?

would i be wrong in saying that regular expressions is some pseudo code,
or way of thinking, or some adopted standard ?


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:24:23 +0530
From: "Aman Patel" <patelnavin@icenet.net>
Subject: require 'question'
Message-Id: <9h49ro$bsopc$1@ID-93885.news.dfncis.de>

I saw this in the documentation: (perlfunc::require)

Otherwise, demands that a library file be included if it hasn't already been
included.

Ok does this mean, that if i do this:

&req_1;
&req_2;

sub req_1 {
    require "this_file";
}
sub req_2 {
    require "this_file";
}

will this_file to be loaded twice ????, and if i did &req_1, do i need to do
a req_2 to make sure that the contents of the file are parsed?? whats more
efficient.

Aman




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Date: 24 Jun 2001 05:39:33 -0700
From: aougav@hotmail.com (Zur Aougav)
Subject: Re: require 'question'
Message-Id: <bccc87cc.0106240439.19dc1b04@posting.google.com>

"Aman Patel" <patelnavin@icenet.net> wrote in message news:<9h49ro$bsopc$1@ID-93885.news.dfncis.de>...
> ...
> &req_1;
> &req_2;
> 
> sub req_1 {
>     require "this_file";
> }
> sub req_2 {
>     require "this_file";
> }
> 
> will this_file to be loaded twice ????, and if i did &req_1, do i need to do
> a req_2 to make sure that the contents of the file are parsed?? whats more
> efficient.
> 
> Aman

The file "this_file" is loaded (and executed) only once.

Remember to return a "true" value from "this_file". Usually you will
find included files ending with a line:
            1;      # return a true value - don't remove it

Also, if you need the returned value from "this_file", you can use
"do" (instead of "require").

Zur


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 02:55:22 -0400
From: Benjamin Goldberg <goldbb2@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Search and replace ONLY outside "quotes"
Message-Id: <3B358EDA.45E05B31@earthlink.net>

Weston Cann wrote:
> 
> I've been running global searches and replaces on a number of html
> files using a perl script. Up until now, I've just slurped the whole
> file into a string, and done s///mg on the string.
> 
> I've been informed, however, that I shouldn't be searching and
> replacing inside tags.
> 
> I'm wondering what the laziest way to accomplish this is. The one I
> can think of right off the bat is to simply go through each file
> char-by-char. If I encounter an open tag "<", I toggle to non-replace
> mode, and don't come back to replace mode until ">".  While I'm in
> replace mode, I look for a sequence that matches what I'm trying to
> replace. If I find it, I remember that index and do a substr on it.
> Since tags don't nest within other tags, I figure this will work.
> 
> Is there another way to do it?

$_ = do { local $/; <DATA>; };
do {
	/([^<]*)(<!--.*?-->|[^>]*>?)/sg;
	(my $cdata = $1) =~ s/old/new/g;
	print $cdata, $2;
} while( length($1) || length($2) );

The explicit check for <!-- ... --> is because tags can nest inside of
comments, for example:
	<!-- <H1> This is the old topic heading <H1> -->
	<H1> This is the new topic heading </H1>

A worse problem is that people occasionally write html which has >
inside of quoted strings for params for tags...
	<IMG SRC=threewaycompare.gif ALT="<=>">

I could probably write something which will parse it ok, but it won't be
simple, and it won't be pretty...  I am not going to try.  If such sad
things might occur in your html, you'll need to use a real html parser,
as Eric Bohlman suggested.


-- 
The longer a man is wrong, the surer he is that he's right.


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:30:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: inwap@best.com (Joe Smith)
Subject: Re: simple reference question
Message-Id: <9h4bvn$11vl$1@nntp1.ba.best.com>

In article <3b33c2d6.51e$2bb@news.op.net>,
Mark Jason Dominus <mjd@plover.com> wrote:
>In article <rob1jtc5qnpg6dnbgaroo4rj0f06b5c752@4ax.com>,
>Philip Newton  <nospam.newton@gmx.li> wrote:
>>Also, use requires a bareword. You might be able to use something like
>>
>>    require "$input.pm";
>>    import $input;
>
>This won't work if $input contains a '::'.  To be completely general,
>you need something like this:
>
>        $input =~ s{::}{/}g;
>        $input .= ".pm";
>        eval { require $input && $input->import() } 
>        if ($@) { it didn't work }

Shouldn't that be
	$input_file = "$input.pm";
	$input_file =~ s{::}{/}g;
	eval { require $input_file && $input->import() }
so as to keep :: in the method call?
		-Joe
--
See http://www.inwap.com/ for PDP-10 and "ReBoot" pages.


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Date: 24 Jun 2001 03:32:43 -0700
From: iyossi@my-deja.com (Yossi)
Subject: simulating multi-thread
Message-Id: <3bf03436.0106240232.24c5cb1b@posting.google.com>

Hi,

I have a Perl that doesn't support Multi-Threaded application.
Is there a simple way to simulate it using full processes?
The problem is that many times I write scripts that loop, and
sometimes the action that are done foreach iteration may be done in
parralel. Is there a simple way to say:

$threadNum=3; # do 3 things in parralel

foreach counter...
{
$results[$counter]=`something to do`;
}


Thanks for any help

Yossi


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 01:29:55 -0000
From: gbacon@HiWAAY.net (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: Six degrees of separation
Message-Id: <tjagkjouefr34b@corp.supernews.com>

In article <9h2rvm$k9c$1@s1.uklinux.net>,
    John <boxrec@uklinux.net> wrote:

: I'm hoping to write a script to find degrees of separation. Before I go away
: and reinvent the wheel does anyone know if there is already a script or
: module that does this (CPAN turned up 0). Also if anyone else is interested
: in this let me know and I'll email you if/when it's finished.

I guess I'd be the obvious choice for the Kevin Bacon of Perl. :-)

Greg
-- 
The depths of idiocy are as yet unplumbed.
              -- Larry Wall in <199612181938.LAA10214@wall.org>


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Date: 24 Jun 2001 08:00:26 GMT
From: dha@panix.com (David H. Adler)
Subject: Re: Six degrees of separation
Message-Id: <slrn9jb7gq.iqg.dha@panix2.panix.com>

In article <tjagkjouefr34b@corp.supernews.com>, Greg Bacon wrote:
> In article <9h2rvm$k9c$1@s1.uklinux.net>,
>     John <boxrec@uklinux.net> wrote:
> 
>: I'm hoping to write a script to find degrees of separation. Before I go away
>: and reinvent the wheel does anyone know if there is already a script or
>: module that does this (CPAN turned up 0). Also if anyone else is interested
>: in this let me know and I'll email you if/when it's finished.
> 
> I guess I'd be the obvious choice for the Kevin Bacon of Perl. :-)

I might argue that point... :-)

dha

-- 
David H. Adler - <dha@panix.com> - http://www.panix.com/~dha/
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of Meat.      - Phillip, Goats, 20sep99


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 04:49:26 +0000 (UTC)
From: see-sig@from.invalid (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: variables from cookie ?
Message-Id: <slrn9jasam.qbc.see-sig@typhoon.xnet.com>

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Richard <richard@peterparkerDOTdemon.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi, new to perl, can anyone help with the following.
> 
> In a php page, I can call a variable from a cookie by using it's name (eg
> $user)
> 
> How do you do that in a perl script (.cgi) ?

perldoc CGI (form creation/processing, including file upload & cookies)

perldoc CGI::Cookie (just the cookie part of the above)

-- 
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http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/  http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/


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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 16:28:47 +0530
From: "Aman Patel" <patelnavin@icenet.net>
Subject: what would be better? (lots of files vs 1 file)
Message-Id: <9h4h4d$c1lgk$1@ID-93885.news.dfncis.de>

I am designing a flat file DB system for maintaing members and their related
information.

What do you think?
1) Should there be 1 file which contains all records of the members, which
requires opening and parsing of the whole file, even if i want to load a
single record. But there is only 1 file.
2) Should there be millions of files which contain different records of
members, load only the file that you want the member details for. (my
choice). [There is a drawback here to, the filesystem should be handle the
lot of files with ease, with equally fast IO on the lotaa files].

let me know what you guys think.





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Date: 6 Apr 2001 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Users-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin) 
Subject: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 6 Apr 01)
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