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Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) (Si Ballenger)
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) (Randal L. Schwartz)
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <karlyoung@unconscious.co.uk>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) (John Joseph Trammell)
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) (Si Ballenger)
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) (Si Ballenger)
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) (Anno Siegel)
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) (Si Ballenger)
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-) (Si Ballenger)
Re: New Perl IRC server (Tony L. Svanstrom)
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:08:19 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <x7puegn8gs.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "KY" == Karl Young <karlyoung@unconscious.co.uk> writes:
KY> Uri, I actually do spend some of my time doing this, in areas
KY> where I am able to. We are all newbies at something, at some time
KY> or other & personally I don't forget this. I also try to tell the
KY> newbies to read the FAQ & where to find it. I also often give them
KY> links to online resources. I try to do all of this kindly &
KY> politely, rather than rudely & arrogantly shooting people down in
KY> flames. One of the important questions to me is if the 'off-topic'
KY> posts rile people so much why don't they just ignore them, instead
KY> of attacking? I think that perhaps it has to do with one's own
you don't get it. it is simple. i will use tiny words for you. this is
comp.lang.perl.misc. which means it is group that discusses the computer
language perl and it has the topics not covered my .modules, .tk,
.announce, etc. there is a well defined topic. that is what the
newsgroup name is for. this is not alt.soc.newbie.help.
so keeping threads on topic is important in usenet. you claim to have
been on usenet for a while but don't know this? there are MANY computer
problems out there that can be solved with perl. but they are not on
topic here unless the issue is about the perl language itself and not
the real world problem. does that make it clearer to you?
ask the simple question: would this program be relevent if the language
it was written were not perl? if it is language independent (as most cgi
and html questions are), it is OFF TOPIC here.
KY> fear of being little & small & thus needing to prove oneself
KY> bigger, stronger, more of an expert. As Adam Phillips (British
KY> Psychoanalyst) states 'Experts keep us on their best behaviour'.
as you are trying to do with your psychobabble. since you are not a perl
expert, why are you trying to judge what is on-topic here? can you
distinguish between a perl problem and a problem that is language
independent?
all of the regulars can and do all the time. this group gets so many off
topic posts and newbies who don't rtfaq and rtfm that this policing is a
constant duty. and policing is the correct word as in picking up trash
off the public lawns.
uri
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:09:36 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <x7n19kn8en.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "KY" == Karl Young <karlyoung@unconscious.co.uk> writes:
KY> Well put Kelli, this is my point exactly :-) Thankyou.
please start your own group, alt.perl.we.love.all.of.you.equally. i
would 'love' to see you two run it. MUHAHAHAHAH!!
uri
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:14:41 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <x7k84on867.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "KY" == Karl Young <karlyoung@unconscious.co.uk> writes:
KY> more important than anyone else's. I just happen to believe that
KY> people should be treated courteously, even off topic newbies, &
KY> that people are capable of ignoring the posts if they bother them.
you don't get it. off topic posts are NOT ignorable. people wade through
them having to READ them to see if they are off topic. let's open the
flood gates to thousands of off-topic posts a day. then ALL of the
regulars will go away and leave this group in absolute chaos with
nothing stemming back the tide. is that what you want? do you even
understand the issue involve mr. let's be nice to everyone guy? how
about not requiring a ticket to get into a concert or letting all seats
be up for grabs? does the who concert in cincinatti ring a bell? there
is a reason for order amidst chaos. and maintaining that order does not
require civility but sternness. polite poeple don't get listened to
during a mob action or riot. "people, let's all be calm here. please
don't post off-topic". HA!
uri
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:15:50 GMT
From: shb@vnet.net (Si Ballenger)
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <3ad71784.36983511@166.82.1.9>
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 09:18:05 -0500, Cameron Dorey
<camerond@mail.uca.edu> wrote:
>Karl Young wrote:
>>
>> It is
>> interesting, although not surprising, that programming newsgroup members
>> seem to be the most uptight, & will spend time berating people for not
>> following the rules, when they could just as easily have spent the time
>> answering the question in the first place.........but, of course, why should
>> they?
>
>Why do programmers "program" in the first place? (From my own
>experience) largely because they don't want to do the same calculations
>10^8 times manually, and they want the computer to do it for them. Why
>do they berate clueless questioners for not following the rules? Because
>they don't want to read/answer the same questions 10^8 times manually
>and they want the questioner to look up the answer for his/herself.
>
>I am a long time user of Usenet under various guises & my background
>> prior to IT was in psychoanalysis, which is of course why I don't find these
>> responses surprising. Plonk me in public as much as you like, call me names,
>> if you like, after all we're only human.
>
>Why are responses like yours not generally appreciated by the regulars
>here? Because they are "working" here and leave the humor largely for
>more recreational newsgroups/pursuits.
Were you potty trained on an electric chair???
>
>> --
>>
>> Karl
>> "Sit Deus propitius Huic potatori !"
>> --The Arch-poet(fl. 1159-67)
>
>Commentaries on pototoes as chairs (no matter how convenient) are off
>topic here, as they are more appropriate for alt.furniture.tubers.
>
>Cameron
>
>--
>Cameron Dorey
>Associate Professor of Chemistry
>University of Central Arkansas
>Phone: 501-450-5938
>camerond@mail.uca.edu
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Date: 13 Apr 2001 08:22:16 -0700
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <m1k84olt93.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>
>>>>> "kelli" == kelli norman <kellikellin@netscape.net> writes:
kelli> this crap is WAY more annoying than any off topic question. what the
kelli> heck are you doing here if it's not to help?
Ahh, the "the only purpose of you being here is to help me" attitude,
also known as the "help desk" attitude.
Sorry, Usenet is not a help desk. It's more like a "Birds of a
Feather" session, or a "potluck meal".
/me quickly looks for his post on "potluck" from dejagoogle...
Hmm.. didn't find my older one (dejagoogle is still messed up), but
this is worth repeating:
THIS IS NOT A HELP DESK.
THIS IS A COMMUNITY POTLUCK.
DON'T WHINE BECAUSE SOMEONE DIDN'T BRING ICE CREAM.
DON'T BOGART THE POTATO SALAD.
BRING SOMETHING OCCASIONALLY, YOU BUM. EVEN CHIPS.
DON'T WHINE WHEN SOMEONE SAYS WE DON'T HAVE TABLE SERVICE.
It appears that you think this is a restaurant instead of a potluck.
Nope. For that, dial 1-900-GOT-PERL, or whatever it is.
For free, what you get is (some) experts who are willing to hang
around and stay in the discussion, as long as the discussion stays
on-topic, FAQ-free, and avoids anti-Usenet behavior like top-posting
(also called "Jeopardy" posting). That's not too much to ask. What
you won't get is a guaranteed answer. In fact, if you try to do
things that might make the experts wander away, other experts
generally jump in to keep that from happening, and start meta-threads
like this one.
If you want a less-annoying Usenet-lite experience, you can go to the
relatively-expert-free, blind-leading-the-blind alt.perl. But there,
you'll have less chance of getting a *good* answer. But you're a bit
more free to piss on the rules more often (sometimes :).
print "Just another old-time Usenetter from 1980,";
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:26:12 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <x7hezsn7mz.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "SB" == Si Ballenger <shb@vnet.net> writes:
SB> Were you potty trained on an electric chair???
and will your politeness stop a herd of rampaging newbies and off topic
posters? try it out sometimes. i see a constant trickle of you 'be nice'
types but i NEVER see you actually responding to all of those posts. i
triple dog dare all of you (kelli, young and si) to do it for ONE
WEEK. actually READ ALL of the posts, JUDGE if they are ON TOPIC or in
the FAQ, politely respond to them. you don't need to be a perl expert,
you just have to know how to search the FAQ for each and every
post. please, potty train all the newbies for us. we would be eternally
grateful. and when you are done with that week, try it again. this is
like those new dolls they give out in HS to teach teenagers what it
really means to raise a child. so you all can whine about how we do it
but you never do it yourself. come on, put up or shut up. (i would
prefer you would all shut up). i know you will not do this as it is too
real and it is easier to whine. so you lose the bet already.
uri
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:24:04 +0100
From: "Karl Young" <karlyoung@unconscious.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <987175605.22159.0.nnrp-09.c2ded7c2@news.demon.co.uk>
"Uri Guttman" <uri@sysarch.com> wrote in message
news:x7puegn8gs.fsf@home.sysarch.com...
>problems out there that can be solved with perl. but they are not on
>topic here unless the issue is about the perl language itself and not
>the real world problem. does that make it clearer to you?
>ask the simple question: would this program be relevent if the language
>it was written were not perl? if it is language independent (as most cgi
>and html questions are), it is OFF TOPIC here
>since you are not a perl expert, why are you trying to judge what is
>on-topic here? can you distinguish between a perl problem and a >problem
that is language independent?
At last we agree! Being a Perl newbie & not a Perl expert I don't know yet
whether it is a perl problem or a CGI problem. And how & where do I find
this out? If one of my scripts isn't working, as a newbie I don't know if it
is a perl or CGI problem. I don't know if the problem would have occurred if
I
had written it in another language. My usual answer to this would be to ask
on a newsgroup, but then it seems I may get shot down in flames. This
doesn't put me off asking, but you can bet your life that there are a lot of
people that it would put off. A little tolerance of beginners ignorance
could go a long way, & as I said before if questions are off topic because
of someone's ignorance, why not just ignore it, if it bothers you? Why do
you
feel the need to police rather than ignore?
Anyway I'm off on Holiday, Have a Happy Easter :-)
--
Karl
¸ ¸
\(Ö)/
Ô
_/ \_
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:29:04 GMT
From: trammell@bayazid.hypersloth.invalid (John Joseph Trammell)
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <slrn9de4m4.88h.trammell@bayazid.hypersloth.net>
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:56:21 +0100, Karl Young wrote:
> Apologies if you felt that I was saying my time is more important
> than your time.
I think you're reading too much into my message.
More importantly, if you're going to munge your email address,
munge it to something that doesn't get routed to a valid host.
[ ~ ] nslookup unconscious.co.uk
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: unconscious.co.uk
Address: 212.62.7.9
[ ~ ]
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:05:03 -0500
From: Cameron Dorey <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <3AD723AF.EF28072C@mail.uca.edu>
Uri Guttman wrote:
>
> does the who concert in cincinatti ring a bell?
Chances are that concert was before he was born. Ancient history is not
a popular topic for study in today's "Is it on the screen? No? Well, it
must not have been important, then," world. And you know what they say
about people who don't study history...
Cameron
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:09:52 GMT
From: shb@vnet.net (Si Ballenger)
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <3ad723ad.40096880@166.82.1.9>
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:26:12 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> "SB" == Si Ballenger <shb@vnet.net> writes:
>
> SB> Were you potty trained on an electric chair???
>
>and will your politeness stop a herd of rampaging newbies and off topic
>posters? try it out sometimes. i see a constant trickle of you 'be nice'
>types but i NEVER see you actually responding to all of those posts. i
>triple dog dare all of you (kelli, young and si) to do it for ONE
>WEEK. actually READ ALL of the posts, JUDGE if they are ON TOPIC or in
>the FAQ, politely respond to them. you don't need to be a perl expert,
>you just have to know how to search the FAQ for each and every
>post. please, potty train all the newbies for us. we would be eternally
>grateful. and when you are done with that week, try it again. this is
>like those new dolls they give out in HS to teach teenagers what it
>really means to raise a child. so you all can whine about how we do it
>but you never do it yourself. come on, put up or shut up. (i would
>prefer you would all shut up). i know you will not do this as it is too
>real and it is easier to whine. so you lose the bet already.
>
>uri
>
>--
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hmmmm..., I think we're on to something here! ;-)
Question:
How many women with PMS does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Answer:
One. ONE!! And do you know WHY it only takes ONE? Because no
one else in this house knows HOW to change a light bulb. They
don't even know the bulb is BURNED OUT. They would sit in this
house in the dark for THREE DAYS before they figured it OUT. And
once they figured it out they wouldn't be able to find the light
bulbs despite the fact that they've been in the SAME CUPBOARD
for the past SEVENTEEN YEARS. But if they did, by some miracle,
actually find the light bulbs, TWO DAYS LATER the chair that
they dragged from two rooms over to stand on to change the STUPID
light bulb would STILL BE IN THE SAME SPOT!! AND UNDERNEATH IT
WOULD BE THE CRUMPLED WRAPPER THE STUPID @*!#$% LIGHT
BULBS CAME IN! WHY?! BECAUSE NO ONE IN THIS HOUSE EVER CARRIES
OUT THE GARBAGE!! IT'S A WONDER WE HAVEN'T ALL SUFFOCATED FROM
THE PILES OF GARBAGE THAT ARE 12 FEET DEEP THROUGHOUT THE
ENTIRE HOUSE. THE HOUSE!! IT WOULD TAKE AN ARMY TO CLEAN THIS...
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:13:34 GMT
From: shb@vnet.net (Si Ballenger)
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <3ad7203a.39214225@166.82.1.9>
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 14:44:11 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> "kn" == kelli norman <kellikellin@netscape.net> writes:
>
> kn> this crap is WAY more annoying than any off topic question. what
> kn> the heck are you doing here if it's not to help? i've seen
> kn> legitimate questions that may have belonged to another group
> kn> cruelly slammed on this group. why? does it make you feel
> kn> authoritative? can you remember way back when you were a perl
> kn> novice - didn't you ask "off topic" or "newbie" questions? maybe
> kn> we should create a new group:
> kn> comp.lang.perl.if-you-dont-already-know-the-answer-dont-ask okay.
> kn> i'm done. fire away.
>
>ok, you just volunteered to answer all off topic posts.
>
>NOTE TO ALL REGULARS: refer all off topic posts to kelli. she is
>capable and willing to answer them all in a polite and informative
>way. in fact why not have all of usenet piped to her mailbox since most
>of that is off topic as well?
>
>uri
>
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So who died and left "Kommander Uri" in charge of "ALL REGULARS"?
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Date: 13 Apr 2001 16:25:27 GMT
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <9b799n$hcs$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE>
According to Karl Young <karlyoung@unconscious.co.uk>:
[...]
> doesn't put me off asking, but you can bet your life that there are a lot of
> people that it would put off. A little tolerance of beginners ignorance
> could go a long way, & as I said before if questions are off topic because
> of someone's ignorance, why not just ignore it, if it bothers you? Why do
> you
> feel the need to police rather than ignore?
Your claim to an extended Usenet experience loses credibility. It's
one of the constants on Usenet that newcomers ask, "Why is this group
so uptight?" and the regulars reply, "We got to keep things running".
Look at any newsgroup of some standing that isn't a (relatively) closed
club, and you'll find this. Read up on group dynamics and you'll even
find some possible reasons discussed why this is so.
Life on Usenet is tough, in the limited sense "life" acquires in this
context, but tough all the same.
Anno
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:36:36 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <x7eluwn4dn.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "SB" == Si Ballenger <shb@vnet.net> writes:
>>
>> NOTE TO ALL REGULARS: refer all off topic posts to kelli. she is
>> capable and willing to answer them all in a polite and informative
>> way. in fact why not have all of usenet piped to her mailbox since most
>> of that is off topic as well?
SB> So who died and left "Kommander Uri" in charge of "ALL REGULARS"?
the note was not meant be understood by the sarcasm impaired, a
disablement that you surely have.
uri
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:44:41 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <x7bsq0n406.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "KY" == Karl Young <karlyoung@unconscious.co.uk> writes:
KY> At last we agree! Being a Perl newbie & not a Perl expert I don't
KY> know yet whether it is a perl problem or a CGI problem. And how &
KY> where do I find this out? If one of my scripts isn't working, as a
KY> newbie I don't know if it is a perl or CGI problem. I don't know
KY> if the problem would have occurred if I had written it in another
KY> language. My usual answer to this would be to ask on a newsgroup,
KY> but then it seems I may get shot down in flames. This doesn't put
KY> me off asking, but you can bet your life that there are a lot of
KY> people that it would put off. A little tolerance of beginners
KY> ignorance could go a long way, & as I said before if questions are
KY> off topic because of someone's ignorance, why not just ignore it,
KY> if it bothers you? Why do you feel the need to police rather than
KY> ignore?
you want better service, PAY FOR IT. usenet is a free medium but it has
its rules. you can't just ignore off topic posts as they will multiply
like rabbits. you just will not get that. it is not the groups charter
to accept posts on every topic. so we (the cabal) police things. and it
can get ugly. so IF YOU DON'T LIKE it YOU IGNORE it. how does that feel?
same bullshit. in the mean time, off topic posts are still not wanted
or accepted.
uri
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:49:29 GMT
From: shb@vnet.net (Si Ballenger)
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <3ad72c96.42378651@166.82.1.9>
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:36:36 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> "SB" == Si Ballenger <shb@vnet.net> writes:
>
> >>
> >> NOTE TO ALL REGULARS: refer all off topic posts to kelli. she is
> >> capable and willing to answer them all in a polite and informative
> >> way. in fact why not have all of usenet piped to her mailbox since most
> >> of that is off topic as well?
>
> SB> So who died and left "Kommander Uri" in charge of "ALL REGULARS"?
>
>the note was not meant be understood by the sarcasm impaired, a
>disablement that you surely have.
>
>uri
So..., how do you really feel? Don't be shy! Grunt big for daddy
and you will feel a lot better. ;-)
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:00:56 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <x78zl4n393.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "SB" == Si Ballenger <shb@vnet.net> writes:
>> the note was not meant be understood by the sarcasm impaired, a
>> disablement that you surely have.
SB> So..., how do you really feel? Don't be shy! Grunt big for daddy
SB> and you will feel a lot better. ;-)
i feel fine and i don't grunt unless it is paid for. you on the other
hand seem to need to be heard while having nothing to say. now scoot
along and go bother some other group.
uri
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:08:03 GMT
From: shb@vnet.net (Si Ballenger)
Subject: Re: Laziness, Impatience and Hubris :-)
Message-Id: <3ad7319f.43667775@166.82.1.9>
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:00:56 GMT, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
wrote:
>>>>>> "SB" == Si Ballenger <shb@vnet.net> writes:
>
> >> the note was not meant be understood by the sarcasm impaired, a
> >> disablement that you surely have.
>
> SB> So..., how do you really feel? Don't be shy! Grunt big for daddy
> SB> and you will feel a lot better. ;-)
>
>i feel fine and i don't grunt unless it is paid for. you on the other
>hand seem to need to be heard while having nothing to say. now scoot
>along and go bother some other group.
>
>uri
Come on Uri, I've been trolling for usenet a**wipes all morning.
Can't cut the line now and let you get away. ;-)
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Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 16:23:07 GMT
From: tony@svanstrom.com (Tony L. Svanstrom)
Subject: Re: New Perl IRC server
Message-Id: <1ertf17.1s8964u15kdif4N%tony@svanstrom.com>
necro <necrorising@hotmail.com> wrote:
> irc.worldwidecreations.com
>
> Come talk WWC perl Support here
>
> Channel #WWC
Silly me, thinking this'd be about an IRC-server written in Perl...
hmmm... where did I put that killfile...
/Tony
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