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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 25 Dec 2000 Volume: 9 Number: 5195
Today's topics:
Re: ??POST fails, but GET works <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
convert string to command? <leekembel@hotmail.com>
Re: convert string to command? <leekembel@hotmail.com>
Re: convert string to command? <waltman@netaxs.com>
Re: cookie accepted or not ? <a.v.a@home.nl>
Get width/height of JPEG with perl? <leekembel@hotmail.com>
Re: Help Bidirectional IPC with IPC::Open2 (David Efflandt)
How do I 'PREVENT' dos window popping up when "myscript (Santa)
Re: How do I 'PREVENT' dos window popping up when "mysc <pat@sluggo.org>
Re: How do I 'PREVENT' dos window popping up when "mysc (Monte Phillips)
Re: How do I 'PREVENT' dos window popping up when "mysc <revjack@revjack.net>
Re: How do I get the last day of a month?? (Andrew N. McGuire)
list first n lines of matching paragraphs (Vivekvr)
Re: making unique list of words matching a pattern (Ben Okopnik)
Re: making unique list of words matching a pattern (Abigail)
Re: making unique list of words matching a pattern (Vivekvr)
Re: Where can I get CRYPT for DOS/WIN? <leekembel@hotmail.com>
Re: Where can I get CRYPT for DOS/WIN? <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Re: Where can I get CRYPT for DOS/WIN? <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Re: yet another question: is ' more efficient than "? timallen449@my-deja.com
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 14:33:43 GMT
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: ??POST fails, but GET works
Message-Id: <time4t8mtn9j4nl5lm7e5h3f7s5oisuakd@4ax.com>
jrogers42@hotmail.com wrote:
>I have a cgi script that begins with a html document that has a form in
>it with method = POST. It calls a perl script. In that perl script is
>if the conditions are met it must create another html form with method
>= POST. Now, when I do this the script hangs at the point when it
>creates the second form. When, I use GET on the html it works, but
>hangs after the second form. When I use GET for both it works fine. But
>for security reasons I need to use POST. Any help??
How do you handle input decoding? Is it a DIY method, or one of the
official modules? I suspect it's the former. Don't.
If you don't like the hugeness of CGI.pm, the all singing all dancing
module, there are others worth of checking out from CPAN, for example
CGI::Minimal. A module like this can transparently accept either GET and
POST style passing of data.
--
Bart.
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 07:06:58 GMT
From: "Studio 51" <leekembel@hotmail.com>
Subject: convert string to command?
Message-Id: <mmC16.150236$_5.33147813@news4.rdc1.on.home.com>
What I'm trying to do is read a small list of categories into memory.
Categories have subcategories, which have subcategories, etc... I have each
category as a key in one gigantic hash full of hashes, with the value for
the key being all the subcategories within that category. The problem is
that I have to refer to a bunch of nested hashes when the names are created
dynamically. So Sports > Football > Equipment would be
$cat{'Sports'}{'Football'}{'Equipment'}. But I'm having trouble finding a
way to refer to it as such because all the names depend on other data I read
in from a database.
I tried using eval(), and it worked,.. sort of. For some reason it would
only set SOME of the hashes. Others, if I read them from within the foreach
statement they were in then they would show the value that was set with
eval, but if read OUTSIDE the foreach statement then there was no value in
the hash. So for some reason about 2/3 of the hashes that were created with
eval() were local to the foreach statement it was in and did not exist
outside it. To help explain a little better, this is what I mean:
foreach $rowref (@arrayref) {
foreach $row (@$rowref) {
$name = @$row[0]; #the category name, i.e. Equipment
$path = @$row[1]; #path to this category, i.e. /Sports/Football/
$auctions = @$row[3]; # a value that each category must contain
@path = split ('/', $path);
foreach $dir ( @path ) {
$dirref .= "{'$dir'}"
}
eval ( "\$cat".$dirref."{'auctions'} = {"auctions" => $auctions}" );
#This is the line that seems to be the problem?
if ($name eq "Antiques") {
print "\nAntiques(before) =
".$cat{'Books'}{'Antiques'}{'auctions'};
}
if ($name eq "Software") {
print "\nSoftware(before) =
".$cat{'Computers'}{'Software'}{'auctions'};
}
}
}
print "\nAntiques(after) = ".$cat{'Books'}{'Antiques'}{'auctions'};
print "\nSoftware(after) = ".$cat{'Computers'}{'Software'}{'auctions'};
This will print out:
Antiques(before) = 0
Software(before) = 0
Antiques(after) =
Software(after) = 0
In other words, some of the hashes exists within the foreach statement, but
not outside it. The confusing part is that this is only true for SOME of the
categories, like the example shows. What could be causing this? Or are
there better ways to read this category structure into memory?
LKembel
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 07:26:05 GMT
From: "Studio 51" <leekembel@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: convert string to command?
Message-Id: <hEC16.150361$_5.33162037@news4.rdc1.on.home.com>
I think my problem might be that some of the variables are references and
not completely stand-alone variables, but my knowledge in this area is
shaky. Help?
LKembel
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Date: 25 Dec 2000 10:49:53 -0500
From: Walt Mankowski <waltman@netaxs.com>
Subject: Re: convert string to command?
Message-Id: <m3ito8sdpa.fsf@netaxs.com>
"Studio 51" <leekembel@hotmail.com> writes:
> In other words, some of the hashes exists within the foreach statement, but
> not outside it. The confusing part is that this is only true for SOME of the
> categories, like the example shows. What could be causing this? Or are
> there better ways to read this category structure into memory?
Instead of storing your data as a hash of hashes, try storing it as a
reference to a hash of hashes. E.g., instead of $cat{foo}{bar}{baz},
use $cat->{foo}{{bar}{baz}. Then you can do something like this:
@path = split ('/', $path);
$catref = $cat;
foreach $dir (@path) {
$catref = $catref->{$dir};
}
$catref->{auctions} = $auctions;
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 13:19:32 GMT
From: AvA <a.v.a@home.nl>
Subject: Re: cookie accepted or not ?
Message-Id: <3A474ABE.FD15960B@home.nl>
vthnts@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I use print "Set-cookie ..." to install a cookie.
> It works fine.
>
> But I wonder how to know, before moving forward into my script, if the
> cookie has REALLY been installed.
>
you cant know that until a reload takes place
use $ENV{HTTP_COOKIE} for the retrieval of the cookie.
>
> i.e. how to know if the "evil user" accepted or not my "poor innocent
> cookie" ?! ;-)
>
> Does anyone have an easy solution to this problem ?
> Thanks.
>
> Vince.
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 08:34:22 GMT
From: "Studio 51" <leekembel@hotmail.com>
Subject: Get width/height of JPEG with perl?
Message-Id: <iED16.150688$_5.33209707@news4.rdc1.on.home.com>
Anyone know if you can get the width/height of a JPEG with perl? I've
managed to find a script that gets the dimensions of a GIF, but even more
than source code I'd like to find a tutorial, guide, or some info on how to
do it, especially with JPEGs.
LKembel
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 15:34:29 +0000 (UTC)
From: efflandt@xnet.com (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Help Bidirectional IPC with IPC::Open2
Message-Id: <slrn94eq8u.nal.efflandt@efflandt.xnet.com>
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, David Efflandt <efflandt@xnet.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Dec 2000 07:38:21 -0800, Bill Moseley <usenet@hank.org> wrote:
>>If you test it on your machine do you only get one line returned and
>>then does can_read() never return true after that?
>
>Since I was not sure if your e-mail address is valid, I am posting what
>did work for me. Since my Open2 may be old, I used real filehandles:
Just one change to my earlier post, after finding server.pl processes
running overnight and my system running at load ave. 3.0 (when load
ave. 1.0 is maxed out). In server.pl change:
while ( 1 ) {
to instead:
while ( ! eof(STDIN) ) {
Otherwise the server.pl opened with open2 from client.pl goes into an
endless race condition when client.pl is closed and there is no longer <>
to read within the loop.
--
David Efflandt efflandt@xnet.com http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 06:40:01 GMT
From: Santa@clause.sql (Santa)
Subject: How do I 'PREVENT' dos window popping up when "myscript.pl" executes? -TIA
Message-Id: <5ZB16.976$iN1.147949@nnrp3.sbc.net>
I have sort of an off topic question, but never ran into this problem until I
installed
Activestates' Perl 5.06 build (620).
I do not want a dos window popping up everytime someone hits my box and
executes a perl script.
How do I prevent this from happening? I took time out to read through the NG
but only found
articles of people wanting to know how to keep it open. I don't want to keep
it open. I can do
all my trouble shooting from the command line.
I didn't have this problem until only after I ran something like:
C:\usr\local\www\cgi-bin\myscripts\ Perl -w myscript.pl
It seems that I turned something on either in perl,dos or windows and I don't
know how to turn it off. I'm only guessing at this. I've spent the last month
trying to read all Perl docs and FAQS and with no answeres.
Would one of you be so kind to help me? I am aware that this could be a DOS or
Windows related issue and could be considered off-topic. I beg your kindness
in helping me.
thanks goes out to whom ever can help me stop the POP-UP windows !!! :) :)
Just for reference. I am not a perl programmer, but have good experience in
installing scripts. So, If there is something in large I have to do, please
treat me as dum and explain in detail what I should do. thanks.
Santa
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 07:03:49 GMT
From: "Pat J. Magnan" <pat@sluggo.org>
Subject: Re: How do I 'PREVENT' dos window popping up when "myscript.pl" executes? -TIA
Message-Id: <pjC16.55299$Z9.3391208@news1.rdc1.mb.home.com>
>
> I do not want a dos window popping up everytime someone hits my box and
> executes a perl script.
> How do I prevent this from happening? I took time out to read through the
NG
simple solution:
1 - fdisk the drive and remove the virus (some call it the windows operating
system)
2 - insert (linux/bsd) install media
3 - reboot
you'll never be bothered by this issue again.
the only serious guess i can make is to try right clicking on your script,
and seeing if there's some silly "run in a window" option checked. also, try
your file associations, and see if this leads to an option that indicates
that the file should run in a window.
good luck!
pat
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 13:27:58 GMT
From: montep@hal-pc.org (Monte Phillips)
Subject: Re: How do I 'PREVENT' dos window popping up when "myscript.pl" executes? -TIA
Message-Id: <3a474ac4.737620@news.hal-pc.org>
On Mon, 25 Dec 2000 06:40:01 GMT, Santa@clause.sql (Santa) wrote:
>I have sort of an off topic question, but never ran into this problem until I
>installed
>Activestates' Perl 5.06 build (620).
>
>I do not want a dos window popping up everytime someone hits my box and
>executes a perl script.
>How do I prevent this from happening? I took time out to read through the NG
>but only found
>articles of people wanting to know how to keep it open. I don't want to keep
>it open. I can do
>all my trouble shooting from the command line.
>
>I didn't have this problem until only after I ran something like:
>
>C:\usr\local\www\cgi-bin\myscripts\ Perl -w myscript.pl
>
>It seems that I turned something on either in perl,dos or windows and I don't
>know how to turn it off. I'm only guessing at this. I've spent the last month
>trying to read all Perl docs and FAQS and with no answeres.
>
>Would one of you be so kind to help me? I am aware that this could be a DOS or
>Windows related issue and could be considered off-topic. I beg your kindness
>in helping me.
>
>thanks goes out to whom ever can help me stop the POP-UP windows !!! :) :)
>
>Just for reference. I am not a perl programmer, but have good experience in
>installing scripts. So, If there is something in large I have to do, please
>treat me as dum and explain in detail what I should do. thanks.
>
>Santa
Simple solution. Change the 'association'. You have windows set to
associate file types with pl extensions as perls (actually installing
perl does it automatically. Just don't associate the file with any
program and your woes will be gone. I will avoid the perl guru
snideness by not mentioning that this is a most basic function LOL
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Date: 25 Dec 2000 14:24:04 GMT
From: revjack <revjack@revjack.net>
Subject: Re: How do I 'PREVENT' dos window popping up when "myscript.pl" executes? -TIA
Message-Id: <927la4$75n$2@news1.Radix.Net>
Keywords: Hexapodia as the key insight
Santa <Santa@clause.sql> wrote:
: I do not want a dos window popping up everytime someone hits my box and
: executes a perl script.
: How do I prevent this from happening?
That's the way Windows works. Ask in one of the Windows
newsgroups how to a) run programs minimized, or b) how to
run programs as "Services".
--
___________________
revjack@revjack.net
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Date: 25 Dec 2000 02:59:40 -0600
From: anmcguire@ce.mediaone.net (Andrew N. McGuire)
Subject: Re: How do I get the last day of a month??
Message-Id: <863dfcanb7.fsf@hawk.ce.mediaone.net>
>>>>> "MJ" == Michael Jewett <mgjd@unb.ca> writes:
MJ> This is how I did it once:
[ snip upside posted down code ]
MJ> Coolc wrote:
>>
>> I have a simple question...
>> How do you get perl to return the last VALID numerical day of a
>> particular month?
>>
>> I can obtain the numerical day by entering :
>>
>> $thisday =(localtime)[3];
>> print $thisday;
>>
Well, if you are on UNIX and not concerned with portability...
perl -wle 'print +(split " ", scalar `cal`)[-1]'
or even:
cal | perl -nale 'END{print $F[-1]}'
anm
--
perl -wMstrict -e '
$a=[[qw[J u s t]],[qw[A n o t h e r]],[qw[P e r l]],[qw[H a c k e r]]];$.++
;$@=$#$a;$$=[reverse sort map$#$_=>@$a]->[$|];for$](--$...$$){for$}($|..$@)
{$$[$]][$}]=$a->[$}][$]]}}$,=$";$\=$/;print map defined()?$_:$,,@$_ for @$;
'
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Date: 25 Dec 2000 15:37:20 GMT
From: vivekvr@aol.com (Vivekvr)
Subject: list first n lines of matching paragraphs
Message-Id: <20001225103720.26846.00008095@ng-cg1.aol.com>
Has anyone written a Perl script to list the first n (or all, if no number
specified)
lines of all the paragraphs in a file which contain a specified regular
expression.
Paragraphs are separated by blank lines (perhaps spaces or tabs, but no
alphanumeric characters).
I have a list of references with abstracts, separated by spaces,
and I would like, for example to list the first 4 lines of all
references containing "Smith".
Vivek Rao
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Date: 25 Dec 2000 05:39:13 GMT
From: fuzzybear@pocketmail.com (Ben Okopnik)
Subject: Re: making unique list of words matching a pattern
Message-Id: <slrn94dnk2.q56.fuzzybear@Odin.Thor>
The ancient archives of Mon, 25 Dec 2000 03:05:21 GMT showed
Bob Walton of comp.lang.perl.misc speaking thus:
>Vivekvr wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone written a Perl (or sed or awk etc) program
>> to list the unique words in a file that match a regular expression?
>> The words are separated by spaces.
>>
>> For example, in the input
>>
>> boy cat girl
>> foo.c boo.cpp goo.c hoo.cpp
>>
>> I want to list strings matching "*.cpp", which would be
>>
>> boo.cpp
>> hoo.cpp
>>
>> Vivek Rao
>How about:
> @hash{(join '',<>)=~/\b([^ ]*\.cpp)\b/gs}=1;
> @matches=keys %hash;
OK, I've just got to ask: what's wrong with a plain 'match and print'?
perl -040 -nwe 'print "$&\n" if /\b\w*\.cpp\b/;'
or, if you prefer -
$/=" ";
while (<>) { print "$&\n" if /\b\w*\.cpp\b/; }
I'm not the greatest regex guy in the world (although after seeing Tom
Christiansen's '$is_a_valid_rfc_822_addr', I've got a candidate for the
position :), but I'm doing my best to learn - am I missing something?
Ben Okopnik
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
The worst thing is when you have to kill someone you love because they're
SATAN. -- Judy Tenuta
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Date: 25 Dec 2000 11:55:44 GMT
From: abigail@foad.org (Abigail)
Subject: Re: making unique list of words matching a pattern
Message-Id: <slrn94ede0.1vj.abigail@tsathoggua.rlyeh.net>
Ben Okopnik (fuzzybear@pocketmail.com) wrote on MMDCLXXIII September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:slrn94dnk2.q56.fuzzybear@Odin.Thor>:
@@ The ancient archives of Mon, 25 Dec 2000 03:05:21 GMT showed
@@ Bob Walton of comp.lang.perl.misc speaking thus:
@@ >Vivekvr wrote:
@@ >>
@@ >> Has anyone written a Perl (or sed or awk etc) program
@@ >> to list the unique words in a file that match a regular expression?
@@ >> The words are separated by spaces.
@@ >>
@@ >> For example, in the input
@@ >>
@@ >> boy cat girl
@@ >> foo.c boo.cpp goo.c hoo.cpp
@@ >>
@@ >> I want to list strings matching "*.cpp", which would be
That is not a valid Perl regex. I guess you mean /\.cpp$/.
@@ >> boo.cpp
@@ >> hoo.cpp
@@ >>
@@ >> Vivek Rao
@@ >How about:
@@ > @hash{(join '',<>)=~/\b([^ ]*\.cpp)\b/gs}=1;
@@ > @matches=keys %hash;
@@
@@
@@ OK, I've just got to ask: what's wrong with a plain 'match and print'?
@@
@@ perl -040 -nwe 'print "$&\n" if /\b\w*\.cpp\b/;'
@@
@@ or, if you prefer -
@@
@@ $/=" ";
@@ while (<>) { print "$&\n" if /\b\w*\.cpp\b/; }
Golf, anyone?
perl -walne'map/\.cpp$/&&print,@F' file
@@ I'm not the greatest regex guy in the world (although after seeing Tom
@@ Christiansen's '$is_a_valid_rfc_822_addr', I've got a candidate for the
@@ position :), but I'm doing my best to learn - am I missing something?
Yeah, it was actually Jeffrey Friedl (sp?) who came with that regex.
Abigail
--
perl -MLWP::UserAgent -MHTML::TreeBuilder -MHTML::FormatText -wle'print +(
HTML::FormatText -> new -> format (HTML::TreeBuilder -> new -> parse (
LWP::UserAgent -> new -> request (HTTP::Request -> new ("GET",
"http://work.ucsd.edu:5141/cgi-bin/http_webster?isindex=perl")) -> content))
=~ /(.*\))[-\s]+Addition/s) [0]'
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Date: 25 Dec 2000 14:39:25 GMT
From: vivekvr@aol.com (Vivekvr)
Subject: Re: making unique list of words matching a pattern
Message-Id: <20001225093925.26846.00008093@ng-cg1.aol.com>
Thanks for the help. I found that
perl -walne 'map/\.cpp$/&&print,@F' file
does not work on my Windows 2000 machine, but it does when the
single quotes are replaced by double quotes (change ' to ").
Otherwise, I get the message
Can't find string terminator "'" anywhere before EOF at -e line 1.
Vivek Rao
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 07:17:10 GMT
From: "Studio 51" <leekembel@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Where can I get CRYPT for DOS/WIN?
Message-Id: <WvC16.150299$_5.33155388@news4.rdc1.on.home.com>
"Tad McClellan" <tadmc@metronet.com> wrote in message
news:slrn94dbmu.7vk.tadmc@magna.metronet.com...
> Vitaly Tkachenko <virtualvat@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >It just doesn't work correctly.
> Yes it does.
Just 30 minutes ago I was reading about how crypt() doesn't work properly in
ActiveState Perl (windows). I WISH I could find the page to show you, but
unfortunately I can't :(
LKembel
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Date: 25 Dec 2000 11:07:08 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Re: Where can I get CRYPT for DOS/WIN?
Message-Id: <977742305.15696@itz.pp.sci.fi>
In article <926fdh$62dug$1@ID-19904.news.dfncis.de>, Vitaly Tkachenko wrote:
>
>When I call for example
> crypt( "qwerty", "qw" )
>it returns
> qwDyM1db9iOPI
>What is this "qw" at the begining of crypted word??? This first two
>characters always repeats string-second parameter of sub crypt(). Is it
>normal????????
It's normal, and also quite sensible. After all, the rest of the
return value is rather useless without those two characters.
--
Ilmari Karonen -- http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
"Get real! This is a discussion group, not a helpdesk. You post
something, we discuss its implications. If the discussion happens to
answer a question you've asked, that's incidental." -- nobull in clpm
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 14:42:05 GMT
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: Where can I get CRYPT for DOS/WIN?
Message-Id: <9ume4tsvj1v2mqvarg1nt4svbfsr0dqp68@4ax.com>
Vitaly Tkachenko wrote:
>When I call for example
> crypt( "qwerty", "qw" )
>it returns
> qwDyM1db9iOPI
>What is this "qw" at the begining of crypted word??? This first two
>characters always repeats string-second parameter of sub crypt(). Is it
>normal????????
Yes it's normal. It is customary to encrypt for exmaple, passwords with
randomish salts, so that for example, you cannot easily spot if two
people used the same password. You still have to be able to check the
validity of a password. Hence, you need the salt.
In general, a password is valid if
crypt($pwd, $encrypted) eq $encrypted
where $pwd is the bare text password under test, and $encrypted is the
stored, encrypted password to check against.
--
Bart.
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Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2000 15:32:08 GMT
From: timallen449@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: yet another question: is ' more efficient than "?
Message-Id: <927p9p$oa0$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <977574648.1846@itz.pp.sci.fi>,
Ilmari Karonen <usenet11314@itz.pp.sci.fi> wrote:
> Actually, the corrected benchmark I sent was a perfect illustration of
> the above. You see, what I happen to know is that the two codes are
> in fact precisely equal in speed, since they get compiled to the exact
> *same bytecode*.
<snip>
> You are, however, expected to learn from the
> mistake and not do it again. My post was an attempt to help you with
> that.
Thanks Ilmari. Something you said interested me a lot. I, too, would
like to be able to see and compare the bytecode of two statements, as I
agree with you that *that* would be the ultimate way of comparing two
methods. How would I do that? Is there a FAQ I should read about
this? Thank you very much. -tim
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For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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