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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 19 Dec 2000 Volume: 9 Number: 5150
Today's topics:
How to pass Perl variables to Ksh sankarmukh@my-deja.com
if i send an e-mail <carlo@netverk.net>
Re: if i send an e-mail <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Re: if i send an e-mail (Abigail)
Re: just mucking about with splits <latsharj@my-deja.com>
Re: just mucking about with splits <igor_aptekar@programmer.net>
Re: just mucking about with splits (Tad McClellan)
Re: Mail::Send and MINE <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Newbie Question. <dchester@bigpond.net.auFORCE>
Re: perl, iis, form/java mail, form width <kenny@kennypearce.net>
Re: possibly st00pid question regarding 'require' (Tad McClellan)
Re: POSTing data with SSL (Net::SSLeay) ?!?! kalexa2@my-deja.com
Re: Profanity Check (OT) <hartleh1@westat.com>
Re: Splitting record string into fields (Tad McClellan)
Splitting text, but not individual words <davet2@usa.net>
Re: Splitting text, but not individual words <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
Re: Splitting text, but not individual words (Tad McClellan)
String Parsing? (Anno Siegel)
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:42:09 GMT
From: sankarmukh@my-deja.com
Subject: How to pass Perl variables to Ksh
Message-Id: <91ns3v$s4b$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Hi,
I run a Perl script in one unix box. I define a few variables there and
then use telnet module to telnet to another box and run a ksh script
there. This ksh script ftps certain files to some other boxes.
Here is my problem. Since I do not how to use the same variables both
in Perl and ksh , I used the variables as an argument to ksh script.
But, I think the argument list is too long and fails. I commented out
the ftp line to echo to see what is happening.
The Perl script:
*******************************************************
$HOME="/u/ctssmuk";
$HOME1="/u/prod";
$START_DIR="$HOME/web/prod/netx";
$START_DIR1="$HOME1/web/prod/netx";
print "What is the name of the CLIENT? This is usually in Caps. Please
enter in Capitals";
print "\n";
$CLIENT = <STDIN>;
chomp ($CLIENT);
print "\n";
$LOGIN_DIR="$START_DIR/$CLIENT/unsecure-html";
$REMOTE_LOGIN_DIR="$START_DIR1/$CLIENT/secure-html";
$client=`(echo $CLIENT|tr A-Z a-z|tr -d '_')`;
print $client;
$MORE_LOGIN_DIR="$LOGIN_DIR/$client";
$MORE_REMOTE_LOGIN_DIR="$REMOTE_LOGIN_DIR/$client";
print "ftp files from $LOGIN_DIR to $REMOTE_LOGIN_DIR\n"; print "\n";
print "and ftp files from $MORE_LOGIN_DIR to $MORE_REMOTE_LOGIN_DIR\n";
print "\n";
print "Enter the name of the file";
print "\n";
$FILENAME = <STDIN>;
chomp ($FILENAME);
print $FILENAME;
print "\n";
########################################################################
#########
$hostname="inawk77";
$user="ctssmuk";
$hspw="hoNda313";
use Net::Telnet;
$cs = new Net::Telnet ( Host => $hostname, Timeout =>'35'); $cs ->login
($user, $hspw);
$|=1;
my @output1=$cs->cmd("echo $LOGIN_DIR $REMOTE_LOGIN_DIR $FILENAME
$MORE_LOGIN_DIR $MORE_REMOTE_LOGIN_DIR");
print @output1;
print "\n";
$cs ->close;
************************************************************
Here is the output:
**********************************************************************
inawk77:/u/ctssmuk> unsectosecHS.pl
What is the name of the CLIENT? This is usually in Caps. Please enter
in Capitals
BANC_ONE
bancone
ftp files from /u/ctssmuk/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/unsecure-html
to /u/prod/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/secure-html
and ftp files from /u/ctssmuk/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/unsecure-
html/bancone
to /u/prod/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/secure-html/bancone
Enter the name of the file
testfile
testfile
/u/prod/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/secure-html/bancone
/u/ctssmuk/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/unsecure-
html /u/prod/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/secure-html
testfile /u/ctssmuk/web/prod/netx/BANC_ON
E/unsecure-html/bancone
inawk77:/u/ctssmuk> /u/prod/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/secure-html/bancone
ksh: /u/prod/web/prod/netx/BANC_ONE/secure-html/bancone: cannot execute
inawk77:/u/ctssmuk>
inawk77:/u/ctssmuk>
It breaks up the line in in echo and wants to execute the last line as
ksh command.
Any advice is appreciated.
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:19:44 -0000
From: "carlo costa" <carlo@netverk.net>
Subject: if i send an e-mail
Message-Id: <3a3fed37.0@news.isholf.is>
Hi There,
I am sorry to bother you, but i have a problem and I do not menage to get
out of it,
I am trying to send a-mail in a perl program,
can you spend few lines to explain me how can I sand an e-mail in a perl
program (I am looking for a module witch allow me to send without inserting
any SMPT server)... please, telme where I can find some exemples or
something to read about .
I am sorry but I just started programming in perl and I need to solve this
problem.
Thanx
B. W.
Carlo
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:54:33 GMT
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: if i send an e-mail
Message-Id: <b61v3t0heraf3g0gfbdp82soij0rtg6r22@4ax.com>
carlo costa wrote:
> (I am looking for a module witch allow me to send without inserting
>any SMPT server)
See if you can send mail by using "localhost" for the SMTP server. It
often works.
--
Bart.
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Date: 19 Dec 2000 15:58:02 GMT
From: abigail@foad.org (Abigail)
Subject: Re: if i send an e-mail
Message-Id: <slrn93v1ca.p3p.abigail@tsathoggua.rlyeh.net>
carlo costa (carlo@netverk.net) wrote on MMDCLXVII September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:3a3fed37.0@news.isholf.is>:
.. Hi There,
..
.. I am sorry to bother you, but i have a problem and I do not menage to get
.. out of it,
..
.. I am trying to send a-mail in a perl program,
..
.. can you spend few lines to explain me how can I sand an e-mail in a perl
.. program (I am looking for a module witch allow me to send without inserting
.. any SMPT server)... please, telme where I can find some exemples or
.. something to read about .
Goto search.cpan.org and look for various Mail:: modules.
Abigail
--
perl -le 's[$,][join$,,(split$,,($!=85))[(q[0006143730380126152532042307].
q[41342211132019313505])=~m[..]g]]e and y[yIbp][HJkP] and print'
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:58:08 GMT
From: Dick Latshaw <latsharj@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: just mucking about with splits
Message-Id: <91nphd$pmh$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <Z5J%5.73304$eT4.5370213@nnrp3.clara.net>,
"Igor Aptekar" <igor_aptekar@programmer.net> wrote:
> anyone know how i can do something like print split(",",$a)[1]
>
> thats is get whatever item of the split array i want without using an
> intermediate variable
Try print (split /,/,$a)[1];
--
Regards,
Dick
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 14:26:25 -0000
From: "Igor Aptekar" <igor_aptekar@programmer.net>
Subject: Re: just mucking about with splits
Message-Id: <YdK%5.73420$eT4.5380479@nnrp3.clara.net>
this brings up a lot of errors - no compile
"Dick Latshaw" <latsharj@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:91nphd$pmh$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <Z5J%5.73304$eT4.5370213@nnrp3.clara.net>,
> "Igor Aptekar" <igor_aptekar@programmer.net> wrote:
> > anyone know how i can do something like print split(",",$a)[1]
> >
> > thats is get whatever item of the split array i want without using an
> > intermediate variable
>
> Try print (split /,/,$a)[1];
>
> --
> Regards,
> Dick
>
>
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:19:35 -0500
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: just mucking about with splits
Message-Id: <slrn93urjn.9hk.tadmc@magna.metronet.com>
Igor Aptekar <igor_aptekar@programmer.net> wrote:
>anyone know how i can do something like print split(",",$a)[1]
>
>thats is get whatever item of the split array i want without using an
>intermediate variable
Use a "list slice" (see the "Slices" section in perldata.pod):
$second_element = ( split(/,/, $a) )[1]
^ ^
^ ^
Patterns should _look like_ patterns, not like strings.
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 19 Dec 2000 09:50:07 -0600
From: Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mail::Send and MINE
Message-Id: <87hf40h0ls.fsf@limey.hpcc.uh.edu>
>> On 19 Dec 2000 09:47:01 GMT,
>> cljlk@hotmail.com (J. K.) said:
> Hi, I am looking for Mail::Send and MINE package. Would anyone
> point out the direction?
http://www.cpan.org/
(don't forget you can get these through the cpan (or ppm) programs on
your machine)
hth
t
--
Eih bennek, eih blavek.
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:08:06 GMT
From: "LithiuS" <dchester@bigpond.net.auFORCE>
Subject: Newbie Question.
Message-Id: <qRK%5.25376$xW4.195532@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
I'm working on extracting information from a txt file. Whats a good web
tutorial on doing that?
TIA
LitH
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:49:38 -0800
From: Kenny Pearce <kenny@kennypearce.net>
Subject: Re: perl, iis, form/java mail, form width
Message-Id: <3A3F8392.E583ED12@kennypearce.net>
invinfo@my-deja.com wrote:
> Some newbie questions:
>
> 1) How can I make my form full size ? Is there a width attribute ?
> I'm having trouble getting a <hr> tag within a form to stretch
> the whole width of the page.
>
> 2) How can I call a perl script to handle form processing on a NT / IIS
> environment ?
> I'm using ActiveState perl v5.6.0
> How do I have to have my machine configured ?
> What needs to be in my path ?
> I'm assuming I will need the perl script to be in the same
> directory of the form.
> ex: /inetpubs/wwwroot/page.html will be processed
> by /inetpubs/wwwroot/page.pl
>
> 3) I'm looking for good examples of form based email scripts.
> Is javamail good to use for this ? other suggestions ???
>
> 4) I've seen some pages, when saved as a favorite in IE have unique
> icons with them.
> See the pages from the CBOT in particular.
> How is this done ?
>
> -TIA -Robert
>
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I have a Linux/Unix based e-mail form I can show u, but I don't know how
much different it's going to be on NT... After all, you know what Perl's
motto on Windows is, right? (It's a good thing TMTOWTDI, because most of
them won't work.)
As for the from design stuff, check out webmonkey.com
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:10:55 -0500
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: possibly st00pid question regarding 'require'
Message-Id: <slrn93univ.9hk.tadmc@magna.metronet.com>
The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>In article <slrn93thop.87t.tadmc@magna.metronet.com>,
>tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan) wrote:
>
> | The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> | >
> | >I have a number of scripts that I use to process a file in different
> | >ways.. yet they all have a similar set of variables to import the data.
> | >
> | >can I dump all that 'similar' stuff
>
> | Is the "similar stuff" by chance global variables?
> |
> | Let's hope not...
>
>*chuckle* well.. basically there is one rather large HOHOL (that gets
>populated from a datafile, and a few associated data items along with it
^^^^^
That's good.
>in other hashes or scalars. they technically ARE global to all 5 of the
>scripts involved, but I just have the data reading in separately in each
>one.. if I change the data structure any, I'll need to re-do this in
>each script.
So you need to import a "data reading" subroutine, along with
the data structure for it to populate.
>Separating out the import process would greatly simplify things,
>particularly in light of the fact that I want to move away from the
>flat-file DB format and into something DBI oriented as I learn the Perl
>DBI...
> | >or should require only be used to import various subroutines and
> | >whatnot?
>
> | Above you asked "can I", now you switch to "should I" :-)
>
>heh :)
>
> | Having lots of global variables is bad. If that is what you
> | are talking about, then you should not use require to import
> | them. You should not have them in your main program either.
>
>well how many is 'lots' ?
It depends. That's why I left it nebulous. heh.
Whatever you are comfortable with. If the program is "short"
(50, or perhaps 100 lines), it matters hardly at all. For
more ambitious programs, _I_ start getting uncomfortable
at around 10 global variables.
>Typically these scripts use around 10-20 max.
>the 'suite' of 5 or so scripts, performs diferent iterations over the
>datafile to print out various reports such as
>
> | You should group them together in some other data structure
> | (a hash is often used for this). That is, one global hash
> | with 20 pairs rather than 20 global variables.
>
>hm. these are pretty simple scripts..
Well never mind then :-)
> | The "best" (most scalable) way would be to use packages and
> | modules to provide the common variables (with "use" instead
> | of "require").
>
>I'll have to ponder this ..
>
>Can I have the 'used' file do all the importing of the data into the
>hash for me and supply this into a variable readable by the various
>scripts?
Now that I know more about what you are doing, I would not
recommend importing the global BoH (Big ole Hash) at all.
Seems to me that the common thing to factor out is the populating
of the BoH. I would import only the read_and_load() subroutine
and pass it a ref to the hash to be filled up.
package main;
my %BoH;
read_and_load( 'filename', \%BoH );
package BoH_loader;
sub read_and_load {
my($fname, $href) = @_;
# ...
$href->{somekey}[$someindex] = 'some data';
# ...
}
--
Tad McClellan SGML consulting
tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:06:25 GMT
From: kalexa2@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: POSTing data with SSL (Net::SSLeay) ?!?!
Message-Id: <91nthb$tan$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
SOLUTION:
FYI: It turned out that the MIME::Base64::encode() subroutine was
adding an extra newline in the request header, so the solution I came
up with was to chop() the result of MIME::Base64::encode() and then
pass it along.. It seems to work fine now..
-kevin
In article <91g8nn$5no$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
kalexa2@my-deja.com wrote:
> Dear Gurus,
>
> I'm trying to do a HTTP POST via secure sockets layer to a cgi sitting
> in a password protected directory using NET::SSLeay. This program (see
> below) calls "test.cgi" which reads the POSTed data and spits it out
in
> HTML.
>
> The problem is, test.cgi isn't getting the POST when I include the
> make_header() subroutine. For example the program below works, but the
> resulting HTML send back from test.cgi doesn't include the POSTed
data -
> - $ENV{'CONTENT_LENGTH'} isn't defined.
>
> If I remove passoword protection from the directory and remove the
> make_header() call and replace it with "" -- the data is passed...
>
> Has anyone been able to POST data to a password-protected directory
via
> SSL? Can this be dome with NET:SSLeay? The PERLDOC seems to suggest
you
> can. Please help!
>
> thanks,
> kevin alexander
>
> -----------
>
> #!/usr/local/bin/perl
>
> use Net::SSLeay qw(get_https post_https sslcat make_headers
make_form);
> use MIME::Base64;
>
> ($page, $response, %reply_headers)
> = post_https('www.blah.net',
> 443,
> '/path/to/test.cgi',
> make_headers(
> 'Authorization' => 'Basic ' .
> MIME::Base64::encode("UserName:UserPassword")
> ),
> # "",
> make_form (
> 'doit' => '1'
> )
> );
>
> print $page;
> print "-----------\n$response\n";
>
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:26:39 -0500
From: Henry Hartley <hartleh1@westat.com>
Subject: Re: Profanity Check (OT)
Message-Id: <3A3F7E2F.A51BCF58@westat.com>
Mark-Jason Dominus wrote:
>
> Around 1996, one of my clients got complaints from users that the site
> was blocked. It turned out that the site had been blocked because of
> the use of the word...wait for it..."pink".
I couldn't find my clippers so I had to use my pinking sheers to cut the
pinks from the garden. My father came in from the fox hunt wearing his
pink and was tickled pink that the pinkos had been invited.
--
Henry Hartley
Westat
Rockville, Maryland, USA
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 09:01:18 -0500
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: Splitting record string into fields
Message-Id: <slrn93uqhe.9hk.tadmc@magna.metronet.com>
[ Jeopardectomy performed ]
appsman1368@my-deja.com <appsman1368@my-deja.com> wrote:
>In article <slrn93sreb.6sn.tadmc@magna.metronet.com>,
> tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan) wrote:
>> appsman1368@my-deja.com <appsman1368@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I really don't have the time to learn perl at the
^^^^^^
>> >moment but I am assured that it is the best tool available.
^^^^^^
... or at any time over the past year.
>> Then hire someone who _has_ taken the time to learn Perl.
>I am reassured to know that these forums are not entirely populated with
>narrow-minded pompous morons like you.
Right.
Like Jonathan Stowe who gave you "Just what I was after"
when you asked this same "urgent" question *11 months* ago?
You are abusing the newsgroup. We will _help_ you do your work.
We don't _do_ your work for you. Jonathan admonished you for
this back then, but here you are again with the same
already-answered question! (the answer was "use unpack()")
If you are having trouble getting unpack() to work, then make
a post about having trouble getting unpack() to work, and we'll
help you get it working.
You can use join() to insert commas between the split-out fields.
If you need to allow commas _in_ fields, then use a module
that makes CSV files. Modules can be downloaded from CPAN.
>If you have nothing useful to
>contribute,
Ah, but it _was_ useful. If you have an urgent problem that has
remained open for 11 months, it is a perfectly sensible business
decision to pay someone to make the problem go away.
I was offering a realistic way of solving your problem.
Another way would be to learn enough Perl to get it done yourself.
Learning that much Perl should certainly not take 11 months.
Yet another way would be to post the code that you have tried
and have us help you fix it.
>other that to advertise your own 'talents'
I was not advertising my talents. I did not say hire me, I said
hire someone. I pretty much can't be hired anyway as I must turn
down work on a fairly regular basis.
>then do us all a
>favour and take up knitting.
Do us a favor and stop abusing the newsgroup. Repeatedly asking
the same question when it has already been satisfactorily
answered is an abuse of this community.
hard *plonk*
--
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tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:39:52 +0100
From: "Dave T" <davet2@usa.net>
Subject: Splitting text, but not individual words
Message-Id: <3a3f80ae$0$9660$73beb97d@news.dk.uu.net>
I am trying to do the following, but without any luck - any ideas would be
apprecitated:
I have a variable ($text) with a lot of text in it, and I want to split it
into lines of at most 80 characters, but not splitting the individual words.
Any clues - it seems almost impossible to me (unless I split it into words
and then coutn the characters in each word and go from there!!)
Thanks,
Dave
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:02:23 +0100
From: Josef Moellers <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com>
Subject: Re: Splitting text, but not individual words
Message-Id: <3A3F868F.8E8638AE@fujitsu-siemens.com>
Dave T wrote:
> =
> I am trying to do the following, but without any luck - any ideas would=
be
> apprecitated:
> =
> I have a variable ($text) with a lot of text in it, and I want to split=
it
> into lines of at most 80 characters, but not splitting the individual w=
ords.
> =
> Any clues - it seems almost impossible to me (unless I split it into wo=
rds
> and then coutn the characters in each word and go from there!!)
I vaguely remember having seen this question before ... but here goes.
I'd extract the first 81 characters from the text:
$first=3Dsubstr($text, 0, 81);
then take whatever is in there with the blank at the end:
($prefix =3D $first) =3D~ s/(.*)\s\S*/$1/;
then remove whatever you have here:
$len =3D =3D length($prefix);
substr($text, 0, $len+1, "");
Maybe not the most elegant way of doing this, but one way of doing.
Of course, you may need to handle
verlongwordsthatspanmorethan80characters.
-- =
Josef M=F6llers (Pinguinpfleger bei FSC)
If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize (T. Pratchett)
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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:04:34 -0500
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: Splitting text, but not individual words
Message-Id: <slrn93uu82.9nv.tadmc@magna.metronet.com>
Dave T <davet2@usa.net> wrote:
>
>I have a variable ($text) with a lot of text in it, and I want to split it
>into lines of at most 80 characters, but not splitting the individual words.
Use a module that wraps text, such as Text::Wrap.
--
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tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 19 Dec 2000 14:46:55 -0000
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: String Parsing?
Message-Id: <91nscv$kgs$1@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
<spcman@my-deja.com> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
>Anyone have a one-liner to check to make sure a string consists of only
>az-AZ-0-9 (Letters, Numbers) NO CHARACTERS!
What is a character in your opinion? Letters and numbers are usually
counted among them. Probably you meant to say "special characters".
As usual, there is more than one way to do it. While the most
straightforward solution would probably use a regex, the tr///
operator can be used as well, and is often faster. To check
a string $str you'd do:
if ( $str =~ tr/0-9A-Za-z//c ) {
print "'$str' has special characters\n"
} else {
print "'$str' is clean\n";
}
To understand how this works, you will have to look up tr/// in
perlop and see what it does in scalar context, as well as the
function of tr's /c modifier.
Anno
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