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Today's topics:
ActivePerl's Authenticate user prpr1685@my-deja.com
Re: Beginners Blues II (Honza Pazdziora)
Re: Beginners Blues II <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Re: Capital Letters Won't Sort - HeLp! <mjcarman@home.com>
Command Line Perl <skpurcell@hotmail.com>
Cookie issue with CGI.pm? <dontspamme@awdang.com>
Re: Cookie issue with CGI.pm? (Rafael Garcia-Suarez)
Re: Cookie issue with CGI.pm? <dontspamme@awdang.com>
Re: Help with installing a package <bowman@montana.com>
Re: Help with installing a package <sladb69@magma.ca>
Re: Help with installing a package <randy@theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca>
How do I use Test and Test::Harness? henrik7205@hotmail.com
Re: How do you redirect to download a file? <sladb69@magma.ca>
Re: how would you know the no of people accessing a per <newsposter@cthulhu.demon.nl>
HTML::Entities <spam-abuse@uk2.net>
Re: looking for PERL GUI debugger for UNIX <shallow@mail.com>
Problem running CGI from HTML <sladb69@magma.ca>
Re: Problem running CGI from HTML <dontspamme@awdang.com>
Re: Problem running CGI from HTML (Anthony Peacock)
starting a perl script as an NT service <neil@alaweb.com>
Re: System command, limit on number of ARGV? <W.Hielscher@mssys.com>
Re: What is a Junior Perl Programmer? <bowman@montana.com>
Re: What is a Junior Perl Programmer? (Randal L. Schwartz)
Re: What is a Junior Perl Programmer? <dsimonis@fiderus.com>
Re: What is a Junior Perl Programmer? <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:58:02 GMT
From: prpr1685@my-deja.com
Subject: ActivePerl's Authenticate user
Message-Id: <8vbe5m$cfj$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Hello,
does anyone know whether ActivePerl's AuthenticateUser method works
correctly or not?
If so, could you give me an example of how to use it?
I have tried the following
AuthenticateUser( "hisdomain", "administrator", "hispassword" )
but this does not return anything.
Many thanks.
Philippe de Rochambeau
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 14:02:21 GMT
From: adelton@fi.muni.cz (Honza Pazdziora)
Subject: Re: Beginners Blues II
Message-Id: <G4Btnx.JBG@news.muni.cz>
On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 13:38:49 -0000, Geoff Winkless <geoff-at-farmline-dot-com@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
> umm. why is that abuse? + for concatenation is a perfectly reasonable
> mechanism - what would -you- prefer to happen when you attempt to "add two
> strings together"?
In a typeless language like Perl? Convert to numbers and sum them up.
Yours,
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Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:57:01 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Re: Beginners Blues II
Message-Id: <974735242.24197@itz.pp.sci.fi>
In article <8vb9h4$56g$1@soap.pipex.net>, Geoff Winkless wrote:
>
>umm. why is that abuse? + for concatenation is a perfectly reasonable
>mechanism - what would -you- prefer to happen when you attempt to "add two
>strings together"?
I don't really care, as long as it's associative and commutative like
addition is supposed to be. Bonus points if you can reverse it with a
corresponding subtraction operation.
That might seem like nitpicking, but IMHO it's just plain silly that
"$" + 2 + 3 equals "$23" in Java. Almost as silly as -5%3 being -2.
--
Ilmari Karonen -- http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
"Get real! This is a discussion group, not a helpdesk. You post
something, we discuss its implications. If the discussion happens to
answer a question you've asked, that's incidental." -- nobull in clpm
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:44:18 -0600
From: Michael Carman <mjcarman@home.com>
Subject: Re: Capital Letters Won't Sort - HeLp!
Message-Id: <3A192AB2.E2FA4E48@home.com>
Ilmari Karonen wrote:
>
> Michael Carman wrote:
> >
> > For larger arrays, try a map-sort-map approach (a.k.a.
> > "Schwartzian Transform")
>
> The Guttman-Rosler transform is probably even more efficient:
True, but with all due respect to Larry and Uri, I have yet to be so
paranoid about efficiency that I pull out guns this big. :) I suppose I
should take the time to really learn the GRT just for the sake of
stuffing even more Perl inside my head. [Last week was writing my own
tie() classes. Now if I can just find a good use for them...]
-mjc
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:06:12 -0600
From: "spurcell" <skpurcell@hotmail.com>
Subject: Command Line Perl
Message-Id: <3a12def5$0$19896@wodc7nh7.news.uu.net>
Hello,
I have a bunch of files in a directory, and I am always having to get
information on them to find out how old they are.
Anyway, is there a way from the command prompt, that I could do a list in a
directory and show the -A (the age) of the file?
I use perl a lot, but never use it from the command line, only web servers.
Thanks
Scott
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:08:04 GMT
From: LimboStar <dontspamme@awdang.com>
Subject: Cookie issue with CGI.pm?
Message-Id: <8vbeoe$cvp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I must be missing something althogether too obvious.
I have a CGI script which uses cookies to save a sessionid for a logged-
in user. The cookies are baked and served in the typical fashion, ie:
my $sessionid = getsessionid();
my $cookie = cookie( -name=>'sessionid', -value=>$sessionid,
-domain=>'mydomain.com', -expires=>'+2y' );
print "Set-cookie: $cookie\n";
One of the goals I'm trying to accomplish here is to have the user
logged in on 'mydomain.com' and all subdomains (for
instance, 'members.mydomain.com', 'help.mydomain.com', etc.) If that
can't be done, that's okay, I'll just pick one and go with it.
Now the problem is that this doesn't appear to work in Netscape. It
works just fine in IE - the cookies get set and get sent to all
subdomains of mydomain.com. But in Netscape the cookies get set and
don't get sent to any domain (that I can tell, at least). Even going
to 'mydomain.com' doesn't show the cookies as being sent.
Am I doing something wrong? I'm currently using cgi-lib.pl for cookies
but the interface isn't as elegant as CGI.pm's is.
Any help anyone can give would be great. Thanks!
--sjd;
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:23:28 GMT
From: rgarciasuarez@free.fr (Rafael Garcia-Suarez)
Subject: Re: Cookie issue with CGI.pm?
Message-Id: <slrn91iggi.fsu.rgarciasuarez@rafael.kazibao.net>
LimboStar wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> I must be missing something althogether too obvious.
>
> I have a CGI script which uses cookies to save a sessionid for a logged-
> in user. The cookies are baked and served in the typical fashion, ie:
>
> my $sessionid = getsessionid();
> my $cookie = cookie( -name=>'sessionid', -value=>$sessionid,
> -domain=>'mydomain.com', -expires=>'+2y' );
-domain=>'.mydomain.com', -expires=>'+2y' );
^
Netscape requires two dots in the domain name.
--
# Rafael Garcia-Suarez / http://rgarciasuarez.free.fr/
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:12:53 -0600
From: "LimboStar" <dontspamme@awdang.com>
Subject: Re: Cookie issue with CGI.pm?
Message-Id: <3a1943f9@news.cc.umr.edu>
> -domain=>'.mydomain.com', -expires=>'+2y' );
> ^
> Netscape requires two dots in the domain name.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, you're my saviour, etc etc.
That works just fine and dandy. There's one small problem that I can just
deal with if I have to: if you go to http://mydomain.com/ in Netscape it
shows up as not-logged in (www.mydomain.com works fine so, like I said, I
can deal with this, but it's the last remaining bug).
Thanks again.
--sjd;
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:31:58 -0700
From: "bowman" <bowman@montana.com>
Subject: Re: Help with installing a package
Message-Id: <owaS5.12223$en6.10672@newsfeed.slurp.net>
Scott Thornton <sladb69@magma.ca> wrote in message
> have a program named make. I don't have a program named 'nmake' or
> 'dmake'. My "perl -V:make" command tells me "make = 'nmake';". What am
> I supposed to do to make the files?
What platform are you trying to do all this on, for starters? Do you have
anything
resembling a C compiler?
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:12:26 GMT
From: Scott Thornton <sladb69@magma.ca>
Subject: Re: Help with installing a package
Message-Id: <3A193F75.747173DC@magma.ca>
I am running this on Windows 98. I have Borland Builder C++ 4 and 5,
Microsoft Visual C++ 1.52 and 6.0. Should I be using the make program from
these? Doesn't seem right. If you look at the makefile that is produced it
is Perl. How do you use a C make on Perl?
BTW, if you are wondering, yes I did check in all of the directories under the
root Perl directory for any file with make in it. I know that more than
likely at least one of the C make programs would be called from the path if
you just typed it in any directory.
Scott
bowman wrote:
> Scott Thornton <sladb69@magma.ca> wrote in message
> > have a program named make. I don't have a program named 'nmake' or
> > 'dmake'. My "perl -V:make" command tells me "make = 'nmake';". What am
> > I supposed to do to make the files?
>
> What platform are you trying to do all this on, for starters? Do you have
> anything
> resembling a C compiler?
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Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:53:39 GMT
From: Randy Kobes <randy@theoryx5.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: Re: Help with installing a package
Message-Id: <8vbhe3$ikn$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>
In comp.lang.perl.misc, Scott Thornton <sladb69@magma.ca> wrote:
> I am running this on Windows 98. I have Borland Builder C++ 4 and 5,
> Microsoft Visual C++ 1.52 and 6.0. Should I be using the make program from
> these? Doesn't seem right. If you look at the makefile that is produced it
> is Perl. How do you use a C make on Perl?
I believe VC++ comes with 'nmake' - check one of the bin directories
under the VC++ tree. If not, you can get a version of nmake from
ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/Softlib/MSLFILES/nmake15.exe. If you're using
Win32 ActivePerl, which it sounds like you are, it's easiest to
use nmake (which is the default) - just make sure the path to
nmake is included in your PATH.
best regards,
randy kobes
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:13:48 GMT
From: henrik7205@hotmail.com
To: henrik.jonsson@se.adtranz.com
Subject: How do I use Test and Test::Harness?
Message-Id: <8vbf35$d5i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Hi.
I have some test cases written in perl. Now I'd like adapt them to use
the Test and Test::Harness modules. I have read the pod's and searched
for some examples. But I really don't understand how to use the modules.
Can someone post a simple example of a test case written with these
modules?
Thanks!
/Henrik
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:18:41 GMT
From: Scott Thornton <sladb69@magma.ca>
Subject: Re: How do you redirect to download a file?
Message-Id: <3A1940ED.77C3CA68@magma.ca>
Thanks to both of you for the help.
Scott
Scott Thornton wrote:
> Just say I have a simple page with 1 button on it saying 'Download
> Now'. When I click this button I want to do two things:
>
> (1) add client information to a log file
> (2) go ahead with the download.
>
> Basically I want it to work exactly like a normal download link in HTML,
> but also log the event. How do I, in PERL pass on information to the
> browser to tell it to start downloading a file immediatley? You know
> like those pages where it has the message, 'If your file does not start
> downloading in 5 seconds, click here...'. I have tried using 'Location:
> http://127.0.0.1/somefile.exe ' as the first line in my HTML output, and
> it does cause the browser to attempt a download but it comes back with
> the message, ' Trying to download a file of type */* ...'. Huh?
>
> Can somebody help me out with this, what seems to me a remedial question
> that I just can't seem to wrap my head around.
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Scott
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Date: 15 Nov 2000 16:18:54 GMT
From: Erik van Roode <newsposter@cthulhu.demon.nl>
Subject: Re: how would you know the no of people accessing a perl file?
Message-Id: <8uud1e$i1c$1@internal-news.uu.net>
I'm a good man <"goodman888"@hongkong.com(remove this part)> wrote:
> how can you know the no. of people reading a particular page?
> or the no. of visitors in your site at a particular moment?
You can't.
> is that possible with perl?
Nope.
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:50:22 +0000
From: Nadja Herkova <spam-abuse@uk2.net>
Subject: HTML::Entities
Message-Id: <3A19483E.62CD3FA3@uk2.net>
Having problems substituting apostrophes for HTML entity '
I've added the line
apos => "\047", #apostrophe
to the Entities hash in the HTML::Entities module, but no substitution
occurs;
am I making some huge obvious error or is the problem more subtle ?
thanks,
Nadja.
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:30:06 -0000
From: Shallowen <shallow@mail.com>
Subject: Re: looking for PERL GUI debugger for UNIX
Message-Id: <t1igrut8efip13@corp.supernews.com>
Martien Verbruggen wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 20 Nov 2000 11:30:09 -0000,
> Shallowen <shallow@mail.com> wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a stable, well-featured commercial debugger for
UNIX
> > (Solaris)?
>
> perl has a debugger, albeit one withouth mouse support. Read the
> perldebug documentation. If you want a point and click interface, DDD
> has some perl support: last time I bothered to check it was fairly
> primitive and slightly off.
It's not so much the ability to use the mouse, but the ability to have
charts, and to see variables in realtime etc.
Or so I am given to understand.
I have been tasked to find this thing, not to justify it (I leave that to
people far more senior then me.)
>
> > Budget is reasonably large, but it should be closed-source please (so I
can
> > persuade management to sign it off; they seem to have an aversion to
open
> > source, even on things which have no contact with the outside world.)
>
> Euhmmmm... If they have a problem withOpen Source, what do they think
> perl is?
Yes, I know... this is something I've pointed out. Some other departments
use Linux etc., but we get all the commercial CAD etc. etc., and it is
easier to say "this does what you want" if it's not open source, since for
some reason the big corporation thing of it seems to speak to management
and say "I'm better for the job" (as we all know, not necessarily true).
>
> I don't think ActiveState's stuff works anywhere but under windows, but
> if your budget is large enough, maybe you could get them to port it to
> Solaris.
Hmm, not sure I could get _that_ signed off :)
>
> But I think you are out of luck if you want a well-featured commercial
> debugger for Perl. I wouldn't even trust one. If it doesn't come with
> Perl, or was developed by the Perl development team, it probably doesn't
> get it right.
>
> What's this obsession with GUIs anyway?
See above...
Thanks for your comments nonetheless... I know it's a bizarre request.
>
> Martien
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 15:03:16 GMT
From: Scott Thornton <sladb69@magma.ca>
Subject: Problem running CGI from HTML
Message-Id: <3A193D50.1D2F0643@magma.ca>
I have a very simple web page that I am trying to run a very simple perl
script in. Here is the web page:
<HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY>
Before perl script
<!--#exec cgi="/cgi-bin/test2.pl"-->
After perl script
</BODY></HTML>
and here is the perl script,
#!c:/perl/bin/perl
print "From the Perl Script";
When I view the webpage in my browser, all I see is "Before perl script
After perl script". The test2.pl program doesn't seem to run. If I
just access the test2.pl file from my browser I get "From the Perl
Script". I have tried changing the path to the perl script from
relative to absolute,and I have tried with and without the leading /.
What could be the problem?
Scott
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:18:03 -0600
From: "LimboStar" <dontspamme@awdang.com>
Subject: Re: Problem running CGI from HTML
Message-Id: <3a19452f@news.cc.umr.edu>
"Scott Thornton" <sladb69@magma.ca> wrote in message
news:3A193D50.1D2F0643@magma.ca...
>
> When I view the webpage in my browser, all I see is "Before perl script
> After perl script". The test2.pl program doesn't seem to run. If I
> just access the test2.pl file from my browser I get "From the Perl
> Script". I have tried changing the path to the perl script from
> relative to absolute,and I have tried with and without the leading /.
> What could be the problem?
If it leaves the <!--#exec cgi="..."--> in the file, then the server isn't
configured to parse SSI in the HTML files.
Don't forget that SSIs must include a content-type (at least on Apache - I'm
not sure how other servers handle SSIs, if they do). So you'll have to put
a line like this into your script:
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
Hope this helps,
--sjd;
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Date: 20 Nov 2000 15:39:58 GMT
From: a.peacock@chime.ucl.ac.uk (Anthony Peacock)
Subject: Re: Problem running CGI from HTML
Message-Id: <8vbgke$ql0$1@uns-a.ucl.ac.uk>
In article <3A193D50.1D2F0643@magma.ca>, sladb69@magma.ca says...
>
>I have a very simple web page that I am trying to run a very simple perl
>script in. Here is the web page:
>
> <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY>
> Before perl script
> <!--#exec cgi="/cgi-bin/test2.pl"-->
> After perl script
> </BODY></HTML>
>
>and here is the perl script,
>
> #!c:/perl/bin/perl
> print "From the Perl Script";
>
>When I view the webpage in my browser, all I see is "Before perl script
>After perl script". The test2.pl program doesn't seem to run. If I
>just access the test2.pl file from my browser I get "From the Perl
>Script". I have tried changing the path to the perl script from
>relative to absolute,and I have tried with and without the leading /.
>What could be the problem?
Does the perl script work from the command line?
If yes then it is not a perl problem but a web server configuration problem.
<Off-topic>
You are trying to use a server side include (SSI). If you are using something
like Apache as your web server (which I suspect you are) you will need to
ensure that the web server allows ExecIncludes for the directory where your
HTML file is located.
</Off-Topic>
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:10:10 -0600
From: "Neil Trenholm" <neil@alaweb.com>
Subject: starting a perl script as an NT service
Message-Id: <t1ifj7t6ustb0f@corp.supernews.com>
Hello,
If this is to the wrong group - please redirect me - I have looked for an NT
group - and may have missed it/them.
I have looked through all of the perl docs and CPAN and the perl.org
website - to no avail.
I would like to start a perl script as a Windows NT service. If anyone has
any suggestions or ideas I would be very grateful.
Thanks,
Neil
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 16:43:30 +0100
From: Wolfgang Hielscher <W.Hielscher@mssys.com>
Subject: Re: System command, limit on number of ARGV?
Message-Id: <3A1946A2.AFE5534E@mssys.com>
Adam wrote:
> it is a "feature" of the win32 and its predecessor MS-DOS,
> the "faetures" exactly are:
> - maximum of 9 command line parameters, and
> - command line cannot exceed 127 characters.
This may be "exactly" the features of some MS-DOS successors, namely
Win9x and WinME but not of all Win32-OS as I'm running Perl scripts
under WinNT4.0 being passed more than 25 commandline parameters with a
total length of more than 260 chars.
(I know that the OP is using Win98 so Adam's info was helpful anyway.)
Cheers
Wolfgang
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:29:20 -0700
From: "bowman" <bowman@montana.com>
Subject: Re: What is a Junior Perl Programmer?
Message-Id: <WtaS5.12101$en6.11638@newsfeed.slurp.net>
Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid> wrote in message
news:974719494.7248@itz.pp.sci.fi...
>
> I would assume he got there by "writing something that was better
> thrown away", then throwing it away and repeating.
I've been doing that for a while -- about thirty years in fact, in
everything from Fortran IV on up.
I think some guy by the name of Brooks mentions it in _The Mythical Man
Month_ and a
couple of other geezers describe their iterations in _The Practice of
Programming_. But us
dinosaurs just ain't up to scratch with the new improved script kiddies.
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Date: 20 Nov 2000 06:43:17 -0800
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: What is a Junior Perl Programmer?
Message-Id: <m1u2927lh6.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>
>>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> writes:
>>>>> "RLS" == Randal L Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> writes:
RLS> Not that I call myself a 10. I leave others to label me. :)
Uri> no way are you as good looking as bo derek. i would rate you a 4.
Uri> maybe a 6 after i have a few beers.
If beer increases the attractiveness of *me* to *you*, I'm definitely
staying away from you while you're drinking.
{shudder}
:-)
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:28:17 -0500
From: Drew Simonis <dsimonis@fiderus.com>
Subject: Re: What is a Junior Perl Programmer?
Message-Id: <3A194311.4557A42E@fiderus.com>
Geoff Winkless wrote:
>
> "John Boy Walton" <johngros@Spam.bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:Tg9S5.14664$tU2.123649@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > The camel is a bit of a cow if you are not up to scratch on some other
> > language. I think there is a market for a softer book.
>
> I don't agree that you should start programming with perl. Its syntax is way
> too "out there" for a new starter.
>
Balderdash. I started with Perl (OK, I'm no programmer, but I
manage to get by when the need presents itself.) and I am doing
OK. Sure, some background in programming would have helped to
understand... uh.. programming, but there is nothing that unusual
in Perl syntax.
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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 10:01:24 -0600
From: Cameron Dorey <camerond@mail.uca.edu>
Subject: Re: What is a Junior Perl Programmer?
Message-Id: <3A194AD4.B8E289EB@mail.uca.edu>
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
>
> >>>>> "Uri" == Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> writes:
>
> >>>>> "RLS" == Randal L Schwartz <merlyn@stonehenge.com> writes:
> RLS> Not that I call myself a 10. I leave others to label me. :)
>
> Uri> no way are you as good looking as bo derek. i would rate you a 4.
>
> Uri> maybe a 6 after i have a few beers.
>
> If beer increases the attractiveness of *me* to *you*, I'm definitely
> staying away from you while you're drinking.
>
> {shudder}
(I haven't seen uri's post yet, and have never met either of you, but)
Are you sure that beer is increasing your attractiveness, or just
decreasing his math skills? The latter would probably be more plausible.
Cameron
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Date: 16 Sep 99 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Users-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
Subject: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99)
Message-Id: <null>
Administrivia:
The Perl-Users Digest is a retransmission of the USENET newsgroup
comp.lang.perl.misc. For subscription or unsubscription requests, send
the single line:
subscribe perl-users
or:
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to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu.
| NOTE: The mail to news gateway, and thus the ability to submit articles
| through this service to the newsgroup, has been removed. I do not have
| time to individually vet each article to make sure that someone isn't
| abusing the service, and I no longer have any desire to waste my time
| dealing with the campus admins when some fool complains to them about an
| article that has come through the gateway instead of complaining
| to the source.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
clpa@perl.com.
To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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