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Perl-Users Digest Sun, 8 Oct 2000 Volume: 9 Number: 4555
Today's topics:
Re: emacs written in perl? <godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo>
Re: emacs written in perl? (Ilya Zakharevich)
Re: emacs written in perl? <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: emacs written in perl? <harrisr@bignet.net>
Error posting -- the newsgroup is full. [was: Reverse b <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Re: How can I set and read a variable like the session- <mbudash@sonic.net>
Re: How to realize new or malloc in perl <iltzu@sci.invalid>
mod_perl variables apacheproblems@my-deja.com
Re: need blanks at end of format line <wendigo@deathstar.jabberwock.org>
Re: Newbie with HTTP LWP problem <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
Re: OT: a matter of style (was: Re: PP, 3rd ed.???) <godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo>
Re: OT: a matter of style (was: Re: PP, 3rd ed.???) (Tim Hammerquist)
Re: Perl Books! (Clinton A. Pierce)
Re: Perl Books! <ymeydotcom@hotmail.com>
Re: Perl Books! <jeff@vpservices.com>
Re: Please critique this code <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Re: Removing of nested C-like comments. <adamf@box43.gnet.pl>
Re: STDERR>&STDOUT (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Stop Script When User Has Left askengines@my-deja.com
Re: Stop Script When User Has Left <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Re: Testing for numeric integer <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Re: Unable to run an SSI #exec statement outside of my (Clinton A. Pierce)
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 11:27:21 -0700
From: "Godzilla!" <godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo>
Subject: Re: emacs written in perl?
Message-Id: <39E0BC89.9E777B68@stomp.stomp.tokyo>
David Steuber wrote:
> Mike Eggleston <mikeegg@prodigy.net> writes:
> ' Has anyone thought of writting an emacs clone using perl as the
> ' interpreter rather than lisp?
So, you like to play English grammar checker,
without malice intentiveness or so claimed,
per another article of yours.
Let's play. I enjoy using a red line pencil.
> I have.
You have what? You have a car? You have a brain?
> That's as far as I got with the idea though.
How far? A half-mile? A light-year?
You "got with"? Tell me how you physically
get a with. Your "the idea" is this "The Idea"
famous throughout history or are you referring
to "that" or "this" idea being discussed?
> Specifically, I figured Perl/Tk as the language with
> the Term package or similar for the -nw option.
I see. You are claiming to be a language. I've never
known a person to be a language, even with Perl/TK,
whatever this is. Your use of "...as the language...."
is a display of illiteracy. Use "is" instead.
Is there only one Term package or more? Is package
singular or plural? Use "a" in place of "the" in
your "...the package...."
You figured "Perl/TK". I understand now.
Perl/TK is mathematical formula, worth figuring.
What the heck is "-nw" ?? Never use obscure little
known abbreviations in written language.
> The job would be huge.
Just how huge? Big as Godzilla? Big as a chihuahua?
Tell me, how does a job have physical dimensions?
> And it wouldn't generate any revenue.
Starting a sentence with a conjunction, except in
cases of artist prose or music lyrics, is a sure
sign of illiteracy. What is "it" ?? Well? Hmmm,
I understand generating revenue is illegal, being
counterfeiting. Would "earn" be a better choice
for a term?
> The job is on my mind,
This must be painful, considering you ascribe
physical qualities to non-physical notions.
> but it is pretty near the bottom of my list of
> things to do. I don't see it moving up any time soon.
It is good to read "it", whatever it is, has a
physically attractive quality, pretty in this case.
Would you qualify "this" as beautiful and "that"
as handsome? What is moving? An "it" moving? What
are you talking about? I have no notion of what
"it" is.
Something you should add to the "beginning" of your
list, is to enroll in a Bonehead English class.
You like playing the Grammar Game? I am quite
merciful at this game, knowing most have little,
if any, concept of Grammar Game rules and, knowing
I am a Master Mistress of this game.
Oh my, "i" before "e" except after "c" unless a word
sound likes way, or is foreign or you are singing
Ol' McDonald's Farm, E I E I E I Ohhhhhh....
This doesn't explain height and counterfeit though..
Now this is an one, hmm... a one.. oh nevermind.
Godzilla!
--
Dr. Kiralynne Schilitubi ¦ Cooling Fan Specialist
UofD: University of Duh! ¦ ENIAC Hard Wiring Pro
BumScrew, South of Egypt ¦ HTML Programming Class
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Date: 8 Oct 2000 19:33:25 GMT
From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)
Subject: Re: emacs written in perl?
Message-Id: <8rqi65$q2n$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to David Steuber
<nospam@david-steuber.com>],
who wrote in article <m3em1rgr1s.fsf@solo.david-steuber.com>:
> I have. That's as far as I got with the idea though. Specifically, I
> figured Perl/Tk as the language with the Term package or similar for
> the -nw option.
>
> The job would be huge. And it wouldn't generate any revenue.
>
> The job is on my mind, but it is pretty near the bottom of my list of
> things to do. I don't see it moving up any time soon.
I vaguely recollect seeing an announcement of Perl bindings to Emacs.
Did not check this, of course...
Ilya
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:42:57 GMT
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: emacs written in perl?
Message-Id: <x7hf6n2k72.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "IZ" == Ilya Zakharevich <ilya@math.ohio-state.edu> writes:
IZ> I vaguely recollect seeing an announcement of Perl bindings to Emacs.
IZ> Did not check this, of course...
perl running inside emacs
http://john-edwin-tobey.org/perlmacs/
uri
--
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SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting
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The Best Search Engine on the Net ---------- http://www.northernlight.com
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 17:11:06 -0400
From: "Randy Harris" <harrisr@bignet.net>
Subject: Re: emacs written in perl?
Message-Id: <su1om5iv295f90@corp.supernews.com>
Godzilla! <godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo> wrote in message
news:39E0BC89.9E777B68@stomp.stomp.tokyo...
>
> So, you like to play English grammar checker,
> without malice intentiveness or so claimed,
> per another article of yours.
>
> Let's play. I enjoy using a red line pencil.
>
[snip]
> I am a Master Mistress of this game.
>
[snip]
>
> Godzilla!
> --
Isn't this a bit off-topic?
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Date: 8 Oct 2000 22:04:30 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Error posting -- the newsgroup is full. [was: Reverse by paragraphs - NOT!]
Message-Id: <971040878.27927@itz.pp.sci.fi>
In article <8rj39b$1da$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, ollie_spencer@my-deja.com wrote:
>
>I note I am not the only person to complain about crude treatment given
>anyone who tries to do a "yes, but.." type of dialog in perl.misc.
>Perhaps I would have been better off to say "Oh yes sir, thank you sir,
>may I kiss your ring, sir" to initial responses ( except to mr./ms.
>Godzilla ) rather than say "I tried that but.." and I'd not brought
>such a firestorm.
I think this thread should otherwise be considered dead, but I would
like to comment on this particular point which many newbies apparently
fail to realize:
_The best response would've been no response at all._
No, we don't hate newbies here. It's just that this newsgroup is
overcrowded. Even with extensive filtering, more new posts appear
every day than I have time to read. It's just like a crowded bus --
we don't blame you for wanting to ride, and we will try to make room
for you, but it'd still be more comfortable if we didn't need to.
That may seem to contradict the fact that there are still a lot of
posts, many of them by regulars, that are not absolutely essential to
solving a problem. In fact, this is one of them. While part of the
explanation is that posts like this are generally tolerated as long as
they are expected to reduce noise by more than they add to it, there
is a more fundamental issue involved:
_Solving problems is not the main purpose of this newsgroup._
True, it is the main purpose of most newbies posting here. But, given
that those newbies post here to seek help from the regulars, it seems
reasonable to define the interests of the group by the interest of the
regulars, since without them the group as we know it would not exist.
And for the regulars, answering semitrivial perl questions is not a
particularly interesting activity. It may be considered as a source
of challenges, or a social responsibility to promote good programming
practices, but it is not interesting in itself. To the regulars, the
purpose of this group is to discuss Perl and things related to it.
That is what we like to read. There are other things we may like to
read that may not be quite as much on topic, but you'll need to be
very familiar with the group to guess what they may be. In any case,
you'll find that those are the posts that receive the best response.
--
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
Please ignore Godzilla | "By promoting postconditions to
and its pseudonyms - | preconditions, algorithms become
do not feed the troll. | remarkably simple." -- Abigail
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 12:00:17 -0700
From: Michael Budash <mbudash@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: How can I set and read a variable like the session-variable in ASP ?
Message-Id: <mbudash-1C4272.12001708102000@news.pacbell.net>
In article <sM0E5.702193$Kw2.6343600@flipper>, "Julien Stokkink"
<julien@stokkink.com> wrote:
> I'm familiar with the use of Query-strings and hidden-form lines in Perl
> and
> HTML, but I want to put a password into a variable and using one of those
> options is not the right way, I think.
>
putting a pasword into a variable and passing it around isn't the right
way, i think...
the correct way is to:
- validate a user once per session
- generate a unique session id representing the validation
- store the session id and its associated info in an off-the-web-tree
location
- pass the session id around
> In Active Server Pages (VB Script) you can use a session-variable. This
> variable isn't visible to the user. I want to know if there's something
> like that in Perl.
no, there isn't (that i know of)
--
Michael Budash ~~~~~~~~~~ mbudash@sonic.net
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Date: 8 Oct 2000 20:32:59 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Re: How to realize new or malloc in perl
Message-Id: <971037085.19574@itz.pp.sci.fi>
In article <m1em1zmkiv.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>
>rint "Just another Perl hacker,"
String found where operator expected at - line 1, near "rint "Just another Perl hacker,""
(Do you need to predeclare rint?)
--
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
Please ignore Godzilla | "By promoting postconditions to
and its pseudonyms - | preconditions, algorithms become
do not feed the troll. | remarkably simple." -- Abigail
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:32:15 GMT
From: apacheproblems@my-deja.com
Subject: mod_perl variables
Message-Id: <8rqi41$f82$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I notice when using %ARRAYS in mod_perl that for new requests previous
data stored in the %ARRAY are still present. I have declared the
veriables with my(%ARRAY) = () and still causing problems.Any ideas?
-a
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: 8 Oct 2000 14:08:11 -0400
From: Mark Rogaski <wendigo@deathstar.jabberwock.org>
Subject: Re: need blanks at end of format line
Message-Id: <39e0b80a_2@news.eclipse.net>
An entity claiming to be onkeerbaar@hotmail.com wrote:
: so far I have been unable to get the spaces on the end via format.
: The other lines are nice enough to have text in pos 94, and those work
: fine.
: any ideas!?
format FOO =
@<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< @|||||||||||||||||||| @<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
$bar, $baz, " "
.
where the last field is the padding field. This is copacetic under -w, too.
Mark
--
Mark Rogaski | "God is REAL ... unless previously
wendigo@pobox.com | declared as an INTEGER."
http://3503455489/~wendigo | I do not patronize amazon.com
__END__ | http://www.nowebpatents.org/
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:19:09 GMT
From: Bob Walton <bwalton@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Newbie with HTTP LWP problem
Message-Id: <39E0E4CF.6B104FE7@rochester.rr.com>
Paul Coles wrote:
>
> Hello Bob.
>
> The code you see is the page as if no variables have been passed
> Its the variables thats causing me problems.
Oh. OK. Well, I got it to work by changing $req as follows:
my $req = POST 'http://www.telecom.paper.nl/os/inp.asp', [ country =>
840,
posted=>'true',submit =>'Search'];
The change I made was:
I changed the "posted" variable to the word "true", like the browser
would send back. I think you got Perl's idea of true confused with the
character string "true".
--
Bob Walton
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:28:53 -0700
From: "Godzilla!" <godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo>
Subject: Re: OT: a matter of style (was: Re: PP, 3rd ed.???)
Message-Id: <39E0D905.B849B746@stomp.stomp.tokyo>
Tim Hammerquist wrote:
> Godzilla! wrote:
(snipped)
> Let me get this straight: _we_ annoy _you_?
You have this straight, Frank.
Godzilla!
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 20:46:37 GMT
From: tim@degree.ath.cx (Tim Hammerquist)
Subject: Re: OT: a matter of style (was: Re: PP, 3rd ed.???)
Message-Id: <slrn8u1o4c.eeo.tim@degree.ath.cx>
Godzilla! <godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo> wrote:
> Tim Hammerquist wrote:
>
> > Godzilla! wrote:
>
> (snipped)
>
> > Let me get this straight: _we_ annoy _you_?
>
> You have this straight, Frank.
You pollute my news reader, then you rename me?!
s/Frank/Tim/g while <ARTICLE>;
--
-Tim Hammerquist <timmy@cpan.org>
Millions long for immortality who do not know what
to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
-- Susan Ertz
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 20:05:29 GMT
From: clintp@geeksalad.org (Clinton A. Pierce)
Subject: Re: Perl Books!
Message-Id: <ds4E5.30863$hD4.7399769@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>
In article <39E0B242.31F59824@hotmail.com>,
YMEY <ymeydotcom@hotmail.com> writes:
> Perl 5 by Example
> Perl Quick Reference
> Teach yourself Perl 5 in 21 days
> Using Perl for web programing
> Teach Yourself CGI Programming with PERL 5 in a Week, 2E --
In this case, those that read this pirated material will eventually
get what they deserve.
--
Clinton A. Pierce Teach Yourself Perl in 24 Hours!
clintp@geeksalad.org for details see http://www.geeksalad.org
"If you rush a Miracle Man,
you get rotten Miracles." --Miracle Max, The Princess Bride
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 17:01:23 -0400
From: YMEY <ymeydotcom@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Perl Books!
Message-Id: <39E0E0A3.95E5F2DC@hotmail.com>
"Clinton A. Pierce" wrote:
>
> In article <39E0B242.31F59824@hotmail.com>,
> YMEY <ymeydotcom@hotmail.com> writes:
> > Perl 5 by Example
> > Perl Quick Reference
> > Teach yourself Perl 5 in 21 days
> > Using Perl for web programing
> > Teach Yourself CGI Programming with PERL 5 in a Week, 2E --
>
> In this case, those that read this pirated material will eventually
> get what they deserve.
>
> --
> Clinton A. Pierce Teach Yourself Perl in 24 Hours!
> clintp@geeksalad.org for details see http://www.geeksalad.org
> "If you rush a Miracle Man,
> you get rotten Miracles." --Miracle Max, The Princess Bride
LOL, I guess checking the same books out from the library and scanning
pages through "Text Bridge" for later reference is pirating to... LMAO I
think you need to look up the definition of "Piracy" as the law sees
it...
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 14:33:11 -0700
From: Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>
Subject: Re: Perl Books!
Message-Id: <39E0E817.95D5EA96@vpservices.com>
YMEY wrote:
>
> "Clinton A. Pierce" wrote:
> >
> > In article <39E0B242.31F59824@hotmail.com>,
> > YMEY <ymeydotcom@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > Perl 5 by Example
> > > Perl Quick Reference
> > > Teach yourself Perl 5 in 21 days
> > > Using Perl for web programing
> > > Teach Yourself CGI Programming with PERL 5 in a Week, 2E --
> >
> > In this case, those that read this pirated material will eventually
> > get what they deserve.
> >
>
> LOL, I guess checking the same books out from the library and scanning
> pages through "Text Bridge" for later reference is pirating to
"for later [personal] reference" is different than "for distributing to
the public".
> ... LMAO I
> think you need to look up the definition of "Piracy" as the law sees
> it...
Those who believe that morality is solely defined but what is legal also
will eventually get what they deserve. WGACA.
--
Jeff
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Date: 8 Oct 2000 19:58:05 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Re: Please critique this code
Message-Id: <971034375.14704@itz.pp.sci.fi>
In article <39D8A68F.C802E2A2@strobedata.com>, Jim Cook wrote:
>The program below takes a text file and generates random text based on
>the frequency of the letters found in the text file. My goal here was to
>make pronouncable random text.
Others have already given useful suggestions. I'd just like to
mention that this kind of program is known as a "dissociated press
algorithm" or a "travesty generator". Using those words in a web
search may turn up lots of useful information.
(I was going to suggest adding "perl" to the search keywords, but a
quick test with Google shows that to be rather unnecessary..)
--
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
Please ignore Godzilla | "By promoting postconditions to
and its pseudonyms - | preconditions, algorithms become
do not feed the troll. | remarkably simple." -- Abigail
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 21:12:37 +0200
From: Adam <adamf@box43.gnet.pl>
Subject: Re: Removing of nested C-like comments.
Message-Id: <39E0C725.4236@box43.gnet.pl>
Brad Baxter wrote:
>
> perldoc -q comments
>
> Brad
You did not understand me :( I asked for a better
method of stripping off C-like _nested_ comments,
than that one I described in my message.
The second method from `perldoc -q comments` is very
similar to my solution (whole file in a scalar) but it:
1. harms the file structure (justification).
2. cannot handle nested comments.
But thanks for quick response ;).
Any other ideas are appreciated.
Adam.
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 16:28:29 GMT
From: mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus)
Subject: Re: STDERR>&STDOUT
Message-Id: <39e0c5fc.2986$100@news.op.net>
In article <39DE7F70.B3859876@cisco.com>,
Chethan Anand <chethan@cisco.com> wrote:
>I have one statement "my $cmd = open(QBTFILE, "$arg 2>&1 |");" .
>This statement is not being executed on NT. When I see the variable it
>says undef .
undef indicates that the 'open' failed. The variable $! may contain
the reason for failure.
I suspect that NT does not support the 2>&1 notation, but there may be
other problems as well.
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:21:30 GMT
From: askengines@my-deja.com
Subject: Stop Script When User Has Left
Message-Id: <8rqhfn$ens$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I have a script that executes a loop many times. What I want to do is
stop the loop when the user has hit the stop button on the browser or
loads another page. At the moment the script continues when the user
leaves the page before it is completed.
I know there is a way to detect if the user is still present or not but
I have forgotten how to do it.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 22:31:34 +0200
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: Stop Script When User Has Left
Message-Id: <Pine.GHP.4.21.0010082225070.2389-100000@hpplus03.cern.ch>
On Sun, 8 Oct 2000 askengines@my-deja.com wrote:
^^^^^^^^^^ what new form of torture is this?
> I have a script that executes a loop many times. What I want to do is
> stop the loop when the user has hit the stop button on the browser or
> loads another page.
This seems like a CGI FAQ. Consider reading a CGI FAQ document,
and/or discussing it on comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi. When you
have a perl-specific question, this will be the place to come back to
with it.
> At the moment the script continues when the user
> leaves the page before it is completed.
Why is this a problem? The normal approach for a CGI script is to
perform some reasonable-sized function, generate a result page, and
terminate.
The reader might or might not decide to go somewhere else before the
page is complete. There is no well-organised mechanism for alerting
you to this fact, nor does it really matter. You might get a broken
pipe signal or something, depending on the server.
Netscape have some speciality called "server push". It doesn't really
fit nicely into the WWW model, and causes all kinds of problems with
proxies and such. You might care to search for that term to see what
people have done to cope with it.
> I know there is a way to detect if the user is still present
Do you, indeed?
[f'ups prophylactically set]
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Date: 8 Oct 2000 21:09:15 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Re: Testing for numeric integer
Message-Id: <971038158.21256@itz.pp.sci.fi>
In article <MPG.1442b91db01a457798adf5@nntp.hpl.hp.com>, Larry Rosler wrote:
>
>Is the null string ("") indeed a number? :-)
Logically, yes. When digit strings are mapped to numbers, leading
zeros do not affect the resulting value, so that "5" and "005" are
representations of the same number. Furthermore, the same applies
when "5" is replaced by any valid digit string, including "0". It
therefore seems perfectly reasonable, with "001", "01" and "1" all
being equivalent, and with "000", "00" and "0" also being so, that
the latter equivalence should be extended to cover "" as well.
Not, of course, to mention the fact that, if the strings indeed do
come from quantity fields on a typical WWW shopping cart form, any
zero quantities are according to my experience more than likely to
be entered as "" rather than "0".
--
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
Please ignore Godzilla | "By promoting postconditions to
and its pseudonyms - | preconditions, algorithms become
do not feed the troll. | remarkably simple." -- Abigail
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Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 20:38:49 GMT
From: clintp@geeksalad.org (Clinton A. Pierce)
Subject: Re: Unable to run an SSI #exec statement outside of my home directory
Message-Id: <tX4E5.30869$hD4.7411138@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>
[Posted and mailed]
In article <24YD5.41103$tn.758536@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,
burt@ici.net (Burt Lewis) writes:
> I can run this <!--#exec cmd="cgi-bin/eastonmass/banner/banner2.cgi"-->
> It does not work from any other sub-directory and I have tried to change the
> path every way I can imagine. Is this something my ISP has to change or do I
> just have the wrong path?
This is offtopic for clpm. However, since you're using a relative
pathname (e.g. cgi-bin/eastonmass) instead of some kind of absolute
pathname (e.g. /home/klb/httpd/cgi-bin/eastonmass) then you're going
to need to specify how to get from here to there with .. and maybe
absolute pathnames.
--
Clinton A. Pierce Teach Yourself Perl in 24 Hours!
clintp@geeksalad.org for details see http://www.geeksalad.org
"If you rush a Miracle Man,
you get rotten Miracles." --Miracle Max, The Princess Bride
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| NOTE: The mail to news gateway, and thus the ability to submit articles
| through this service to the newsgroup, has been removed. I do not have
| time to individually vet each article to make sure that someone isn't
| abusing the service, and I no longer have any desire to waste my time
| dealing with the campus admins when some fool complains to them about an
| article that has come through the gateway instead of complaining
| to the source.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
clpa@perl.com.
To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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