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Today's topics:
Array Printing marxjkj123@my-deja.com
Re: Array Printing <newsposter@cthulhu.demon.nl>
Re: Array Printing <care227@attglobal.net>
Re: Array Printing <ayres@gold.cis.ohio-state.edu>
Re: Ascii highlight code? (Smylers)
Re: Ascii highlight code? <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Re: Ascii highlight code? (Logan Shaw)
Re: Can't call a script from html created by another sc (Tony L. Svanstrom)
Re: convert a variable from 8/12/00 to 8-12-00 <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
date and time in perl <lithium@ev1.net>
Re: date and time in perl <newsposter@cthulhu.demon.nl>
Re: date and time in perl <memmett@fraser.sfu.ca>
Re: date and time in perl (Greg Bacon)
Re: date manipulation <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
force ascii file upload with cgi.pm <gsgwebs@my-deja.com>
Re: FormMail.pl problems (Red Jackson)
hows this? <mail@mail.com>
Re: hows this? <memmett@fraser.sfu.ca>
Re: London £30-35K Perl Programmers Required <bcaligari@shipreg.com>
Re: London =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A330-35K?= Perl Programmers <smerr612@mailandnews.com>
Mail with attachments <maibaum@bigfoot.com>
Re: My first module michaeljgardner@my-deja.com
Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution <care227@attglobal.net>
Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution (Steve Leibel)
Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution <lmoran@wtsg.com>
Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution <russ_jones@rac.ray.com>
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:50:33 GMT
From: marxjkj123@my-deja.com
Subject: Array Printing
Message-Id: <8n9f1m$bp4$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Hello all, this is driving me madd. I need to
print out array elements, one on each line.
This is what I have so far.
@block
= "e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.ja
r, \
e:/weblogic/Local/ejb_basic_statelessSession.jar,
\";
for ($x = 0; $x < @block; $x++){
print $block[$x],"\n";
}
For what ever reason the back slashes do not
translate.
Here is my output:
\
\
e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.jar
e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.jar,
Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
MF
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Date: 14 Aug 2000 19:19:03 GMT
From: Erik van Roode <newsposter@cthulhu.demon.nl>
Subject: Re: Array Printing
Message-Id: <8n9gn7$qcf$1@internal-news.uu.net>
marxjkj123@my-deja.com wrote:
> This is what I have so far.
> @block
> = "e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.ja
> r, \
> e:/weblogic/Local/ejb_basic_statelessSession.jar,
> \";
Are you sure you posted the code you are using? I get the following
error:
Can't find string terminator '"' anywhere before EOF at print.pl line 2.
What are you trying to do with that line of code? Assigning a string
to a list ???
> for ($x = 0; $x < @block; $x++){
> print $block[$x],"\n";
> }
Try this:
foreach (@block) {
print $_, "\n";
}
> For what ever reason the back slashes do not
> translate.
What do you mean with 'translate' ?
Erik
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:42:18 -0400
From: Drew Simonis <care227@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Array Printing
Message-Id: <39984B9A.CDA18AE0@attglobal.net>
marxjkj123@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> Hello all, this is driving me madd. I need to
> print out array elements, one on each line.
>
> This is what I have so far.
>
> @block
> = "e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.ja
> r, \
> e:/weblogic/Local/ejb_basic_statelessSession.jar,
> \";
>
> for ($x = 0; $x < @block; $x++){
> print $block[$x],"\n";
> }
>
the above is better written as:
for (@block)
{
print;
}
As is, when I execute your code, I get: (using -w)
Backslash found where operator expected at num.pl line 8, near
"print $block[$x],"\"
(Might be a runaway multi-line "" string starting on line 2)
(Do you need to predeclare print?)
syntax error at num.pl line 8, near "print $block[$x],"\"
Unquoted string "n" may clash with future reserved word at num.pl
line 8.
String found where operator expected at num.pl line 8, at end of line
(Missing semicolon on previous line?)
Can't find string terminator '"' anywhere before EOF at num.pl line 8.
> For what ever reason the back slashes do not
> translate.
How can they translate when your code doesn't even run? And
what are they supposed to translate into?
>
> Here is my output:
> \
> \
> e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.jar
> e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.jar,
>
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Date: 14 Aug 2000 17:56:57 -0400
From: lee taggard ayres <ayres@gold.cis.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Array Printing
Message-Id: <v9gvgx3a4ly.fsf@gold.cis.ohio-state.edu>
marxjkj123@my-deja.com writes:
> @block
> = "e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.ja
> r, \
> e:/weblogic/Local/ejb_basic_statelessSession.jar,
> \";
What you expect to be the contents of block is being treated as a single
string and the backslash at the end escapes the second quote.
Backslashes have a special meaning in perl Strings (as they do in many
languages). The backslash 'escapes' the meaning of the charater the precede.
To include the backslashes, you need to escape them. This is a matter
of adding another backslash, so a string with a single backslash in it
looks like this. "\\".
Might I recomend the following code block to get the results you seem to
be looking for.
@block = ("e:/WEBLOGIC/Local/ejb_basic_containerManaged.ja",
"\\",
"e:/weblogic/Local/ejb_basic_statelessSession.jar",
"\\");
--
Lee Ayres <ayres@cis.ohio-state.edu> www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~ayres
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:13:11 +0100 (BST)
From: csxsdm@comp.leeds.ac.uk (Smylers)
Subject: Re: Ascii highlight code?
Message-Id: <2000Aug14.181312.27488@leeds.ac.uk>
Michael Carman <mjcarman@home.com> uttered something along the lines of:
> Steven O'Driscoll wrote:
>
> > I have written a perl prog to list manpage contents as html, my
> > problem is that I can't display highlighted text it displays 4 of
> > each character, so options becomes ooooppppttttiiiioooonnnnssss.
> > To remove underlined text I use s/_\010//g
>
> Does your source file contain 'ooooppppttttiiiioooonnnnssss' <Snip>
>
> s/(\w)\1{3}/$1/g
Round here formatted manpages would have that as "o^Ho^Ho^Hop^Hp^Hp^Hp"
etc, with each of the first three chracters followed by BS. If so, you
could get rid of bold and underlined charcters in one go:
s/.\010//g
But wouldn't it be better to convert that formatting to HTML rather than
losing it? Something like this might work (untested):
s/_\010(.)/<Em>$1<\/Em>/g
s/(.)(\010\1){3}/<Strong>$1<\/Strong>/g
But highlighting individual characters is rather excessive. Turning
something off then straight back on again is pointless and could be
trimmed:
s/<\/(Em|Strong)><\1>//g
That seems a fairly wasteful method, inserting many "<Strong>"s, most of
which are going to be removed in the following pass. Anybody got a
better one?
Smylers
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:58:15 -0700
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Ascii highlight code?
Message-Id: <MPG.1401e11d28cd2a6998ac75@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <8n9c8c$2ud$1@provolone.cs.utexas.edu> on 14 Aug 2000
13:02:52 -0500, Logan Shaw <logan@cs.utexas.edu> says...
...
> The simple solution to this problem to remove all backspaces and
> characters that follow them. This will remove both the underlines and
> the extra characters in the bold text (assuming underlines come after
> the character they underline). So,
>
> s/\b.//g;
Snurked by Perl! (It is so easy to fall into these little traps! I'm
very familiar with this one, having posted something like it myself.)
Look in perlre to see what \b means in a regex (but nowhere else).
Use \cH instead (or \010 as the original poster did).
Similarly for the rest of your post.
...
> Hope that helps (the code part, not the rumination part).
It would have helped even more to test your snippets (but who can blame
you for not doing so in this case -- for letting your common sense take
over where it shouldn't :-).
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
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Date: 14 Aug 2000 16:43:22 -0500
From: logan@cs.utexas.edu (Logan Shaw)
Subject: Re: Ascii highlight code?
Message-Id: <8n9p5q$3nh$1@provolone.cs.utexas.edu>
In article <MPG.1401e11d28cd2a6998ac75@nntp.hpl.hp.com>,
Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>In article <8n9c8c$2ud$1@provolone.cs.utexas.edu> on 14 Aug 2000
>13:02:52 -0500, Logan Shaw <logan@cs.utexas.edu> says...
>> s/\b.//g;
>
>Snurked by Perl! (It is so easy to fall into these little traps! I'm
>very familiar with this one, having posted something like it myself.)
>
>Look in perlre to see what \b means in a regex (but nowhere else).
Doh! You're right, of course.
The sad thing is that I checked the documentation to make sure that \b
was legal; I just didn't check the right *part* of the documentation.
- Logan
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:16:07 +0200
From: tony@svanstrom.com (Tony L. Svanstrom)
Subject: Re: Can't call a script from html created by another script
Message-Id: <1efdkfm.2vid2t1o92lzfN%tony@svanstrom.com>
Rob <rsouthgate@hotmail.com> wrote:
> So, thats about it, if anyone wants to see the code let me know and i'll
> post it, but i'll warn you now, it isn't very neat!!
You don't give any information that might tell us where the problem is,
you don't even talk about Perl once... and you expect people here to
solve your problem?????
If it's a cgi-problem, then you ask in:
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
If it's a Perl-problem, then you post the code.
/Tony
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Date: 14 Aug 2000 19:54:02 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: convert a variable from 8/12/00 to 8-12-00
Message-Id: <8n9f8a$74m$1@orpheus.gellyfish.com>
On Sun, 13 Aug 2000 02:47:20 GMT Todd Eddy wrote:
> I want to create a filename that is based on the date, the person I am
> making this for insists that the date when displayed uses /s And I
> currently use a simple SSI page to insert the date everywhere, so it has
> to go to the cgi script as 8/12/00. The only way I can think of doing
> it is splitting it into 3 different variables, and then reinserting it
> as $mo."-".$day."-".$yr. But there has to be some sort of
> search-and-replace like function in cgi.
>
The CGI is a specification for an interface between a web server and some
progran that might be caused to run as the result of an http requst. It
can't have a search and replace function. Perl on the other hand does have
such a capability in abundance. You will probably want to read about the
tr/// operator in the perlop and perlfunc manpages :
$date =~ tr#/#-#;
/J\
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:44:34 -0500
From: "Lithium" <lithium@ev1.net>
Subject: date and time in perl
Message-Id: <spgpu228kn9129@corp.supernews.com>
I've been busting my brains out trying to figure this one out...
I'm trying to timestamp events in a script, but I can't find any way to get
a good date or time. I know how to read the "time", but it's an
incomprehensible large number that I can't sort anything out of. As for the
date... well... nada.
Anyone have either some code example, or something to lead me down the right
path?
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Date: 14 Aug 2000 21:54:21 GMT
From: Erik van Roode <newsposter@cthulhu.demon.nl>
Subject: Re: date and time in perl
Message-Id: <8n9pqd$38c$1@internal-news.uu.net>
Lithium <lithium@ev1.net> wrote:
> I've been busting my brains out trying to figure this one out...
> I'm trying to timestamp events in a script, but I can't find any way to get
> a good date or time. I know how to read the "time", but it's an
> incomprehensible large number that I can't sort anything out of. As for the
> date... well... nada.
> Anyone have either some code example, or something to lead me down the right
> path?
You were on the right path already.
perldoc -f time
has reference to localtime
perldoc -f localtime
this could be what you are looking for.
Erik
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Date: 14 Aug 2000 14:50:54 -0700
From: Matthew Emmett <memmett@fraser.sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: date and time in perl
Message-Id: <yvw9g0o71phd.fsf@fraser.sfu.ca>
"Lithium" <lithium@ev1.net> writes:
> Anyone have either some code example, or something to lead me down
> the right path?
Try
$ perldoc -f gmtime
You can follow some references from there to get more info.
Matt
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:55:39 GMT
From: gbacon@HiWAAY.net (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: date and time in perl
Message-Id: <spgqmra8kn915@corp.supernews.com>
In article <spgpu228kn9129@corp.supernews.com>,
Lithium <lithium@ev1.net> wrote:
: I'm trying to timestamp events in a script, but I can't find any way
: to get a good date or time. I know how to read the "time", but it's
: an incomprehensible large number that I can't sort anything out of.
: As for the date... well... nada.
Have you looked at the scalar context return value of localtime or
gmtime?
Greg
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:52:53 GMT
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: date manipulation
Message-Id: <c0ngps06epk97oej7a745mp40j6pamud1l@4ax.com>
Abe Timmerman wrote:
>Nope, GMT doesn't do daylight savings time (summer-/wintertime).
I've never heard of summer-/wintertime skipping a whole day.
--
Bart.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:09:05 GMT
From: GSG <gsgwebs@my-deja.com>
Subject: force ascii file upload with cgi.pm
Message-Id: <8n9cjs$9m1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I am using cgi.pm to upload multiple files to a server. I need to force
ascii transfer. The way it is now, it is putting newlines or carriage
returns inbetween each line of my data (I am transferring a csv file).
here is my code:
open (OUTFILE, ">$basedir/$fileName");
while (my $bytesread = read($file, my $buffer, 1024)) {
print OUTFILE $buffer;
}
close (OUTFILE);
What can I add to force this as an ascii transfer?
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:09:48 GMT
From: redone~nospam~@siteconnect.com (Red Jackson)
Subject: Re: FormMail.pl problems
Message-Id: <399843e3.432013803@news.siteconnect.com>
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:32:01 +0200, "Alan J. Flavell"
<flavell@mail.cern.ch> wrote:
>http://web.mit.edu/wwwdev/cgiemail/
Hi!
Thanks guys!!
Red Jackson
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:46:06 -0500
From: GI812 <mail@mail.com>
Subject: hows this?
Message-Id: <39985A8E.54717840@mail.com>
I am trying to pass a filename to a perl script. The file will be
different everytime (otherwise this would have been really
easy). I have a korn shell like this:
ftp -n 137.28.152.112 <<!
user **** ****
cd TEMP
put $1
bye
!
record.p $1
I figure I can't really pass the "$1" to my perl script, but was
wondering how I could just get the name of the file that is
ftp'd into a variable in my record.p. Any ideas? Would it just be
easier to do everything in my perl script?
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Date: 14 Aug 2000 14:15:05 -0700
From: Matthew Emmett <memmett@fraser.sfu.ca>
Subject: Re: hows this?
Message-Id: <yvw93dk735pi.fsf@fraser.sfu.ca>
GI812 <mail@mail.com> writes:
> ftp -n 137.28.152.112 <<!
> user **** ****
> cd TEMP
> put $1
> bye
> !
> record.p $1
>
In record.p, try using $ARGV[0].
Matt
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:28:44 +0200
From: "Brendon Caligari" <bcaligari@shipreg.com>
Subject: Re: London £30-35K Perl Programmers Required
Message-Id: <8n9k54$7qn$1@news.news-service.com>
"John Hascall" <john@iastate.edu> wrote in message
news:8n7j21$gqd$1@news.iastate.edu...
> David H. Adler <dha@panix.com> wrote:
> >Steve Leibel <stevel@bluetuna.com> wrote:
> >>Don't be silly. "Longstanding Usenet tradition" dictates that
newsgroups
> >>are flooded with spam, trolls, job postings, all-encompassing theories
> >>of the universe put forth by lunatics and cranks, and of course live
nude
> >>jpegs of Britney Spears.
>
> >I think you may be confusing Longstanding Disregard for Usenet
> >Tradition, with Longstanding Usenet Tradition. :-|
>
> >And where *are* them Britney pix, huh??? :-)
>
> And are they Britney 4 or the newer swollen and objectified Britney 5?
>
perldoc -x Britney
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:18:38 GMT
From: Steven Merritt <smerr612@mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: London =?iso-8859-1?Q?=A330-35K?= Perl Programmers Required
Message-Id: <8n9nn9$j0q$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <slrn8pcbj2.q02.dha@panix6.panix.com>,
dha@panix.com (David H. Adler) wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:17:31 -0700, Steve Leibel <stevel@bluetuna.com>
wrote:
> >Don't be silly. "Longstanding Usenet tradition" dictates that
newsgroups
> >are flooded with spam, trolls, job postings, all-encompassing
theories
> >of the universe put forth by lunatics and cranks, and of course live
nude
> >jpegs of Britney Spears.
>
> I think you may be confusing Longstanding Disregard for Usenet
> Tradition, with Longstanding Usenet Tradition. :-|
>
> And where *are* them Britney pix, huh??? :-)
Damn straight. I don't care what the pic is of, I'd just like to see
someone make a "live jpeg"
Steven
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:50:39 +0200
From: "Thomas" <maibaum@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Mail with attachments
Message-Id: <8n9esf$bqe$16$1@news.t-online.com>
Hi all,
does anybody know, how I can send or receive mails with attachments in an
easy way, for instance with a CPAN-Module?
And:
...the way to get the attached file-data from the formular-data sented from
Netscape (or ie) with a <input type=file....> -tag in it?
Thank in advance for every help!
Thomas
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:46:04 GMT
From: michaeljgardner@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: My first module
Message-Id: <8n9epa$bl6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <398b904c.217f$214@news.op.net>,
mjd@plover.com (Mark-Jason Dominus) wrote:
> [Mailed and posted]
>
> In article <8mf57h$7ik$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
<michaeljgardner@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >What I'm trying to do is to eliminate copying the subroutine into
each
> >program that uses it. I'd like to be able to "use modulename", and
have
> >all the functionality of the subroutine available.
>
> You should take a look at the Very Very Short Tutorial about Modules.
> It has a super-short example of how to do that.
>
> http://www.plover.com/~mjd/perl/Hello/
>
> >At this point I'm still pretty weak on OO programming, so my best
> >solution is one that doesn't require a lot of object oriented
> >knowledge.
>
> The tutorial is in two parts. The second part is about objects. The
> first part is what you want. Ignore the second part.
>
Mark,
Thanks, I think this is exactly what I was looking for.
MJG
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:11:32 -0400
From: Drew Simonis <care227@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution
Message-Id: <39983654.2C52E987@attglobal.net>
Russ Jones wrote:
>
> "Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
> >
> > just did these two things,
>
> Read the group, do your homework, exhibit an almost fanatical devotion
> to the Pope...
I think you've got Perl confused with Catholosism.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:33:19 -0700
From: stevel@bluetuna.com (Steve Leibel)
Subject: Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution
Message-Id: <stevel-1408001133200001@192.168.100.2>
In article <8n8nt0$er0$1@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>,
anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel) wrote:
> Steve Leibel <stevel@bluetuna.com> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
> >In article <3997421D.94F8C927@attglobal.net>, care227@attglobal.net wrote:
> >> "Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> > 3) recognize that this is not a help desk: it's volunteers that
are doing
> >> > this for free because they *want* to help
> >
> >Not to mention an incorrect spelling of "its" in item #3. "It's" is a
> >contraction of "it is," which Randall would have known if he had bothered
> >to read the Oxford English Dictionary in its entirety before posting.
>
> Oh, and if you had bothered to read the post you are replying to in its
> entirety, you might have noticed that Randal's name contains only one "l",
> and that his use of "it's" is perfectly valid.
>
> Anno
Oops. Ok you can snipe at the newbies all you want, I won't interfere.
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:39:43 -0400
From: Lou Moran <lmoran@wtsg.com>
Subject: Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution
Message-Id: <pDyYOS4++8oUfGmnapcTzlQB7T8f@4ax.com>
>> I don't think Randal was expecting the Spanish Inquistion.
>
>No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Actually the Knights Templar were expecting it and as such most
escaped it...
(one of the million useless things in my brain taking up the space
Perl could be using)
>
>Steven
...no Y2K was fine, it was W2K we had the problems with...
lmoran@wtsg.com
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:55:51 -0500
From: Russ Jones <russ_jones@rac.ray.com>
Subject: Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution
Message-Id: <399840B7.5CD971F@rac.ray.com>
Drew Simonis wrote:
>
> Russ Jones wrote:
> >
> > "Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
> > >
> > > just did these two things,
> >
> > Read the group, do your homework, exhibit an almost fanatical devotion
> > to the Pope...
>
> I think you've got Perl confused with Catholosism.
You may have a point. They're both religions, both characterized by
holy wars and slaughter of infidels, both mindlessly repeat the same
mantras over and over (Holy Mary, RTFM), both have high priests who
like to think that they're helping the great unwashed, both are (wup
fzzt)
We regret the previous post and wish to inform you that the writer
has been sacked.
--
Russ Jones - HP OpenView IT/Operatons support
Raytheon Aircraft Company, Wichita KS
russ_jones@rac.ray.com 316-676-0747
Et expectu resurecreation,
Et in unum dominos and checkers,
Agnus and her sister Doris Dei,
Lord have mercy on my solo.
- PDQ Bach
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:09:29 -0500
From: Michael Carman <mjcarman@home.com>
Subject: Re: Negativity in Newsgroup -- Solution
Message-Id: <399843E9.FFB07EAF@home.com>
Lou Moran wrote:
>
> >> I don't think Randal was expecting the Spanish Inquistion.
> >
> >No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!
>
> Actually the Knights Templar were expecting it and as such most
> escaped it...
>
> (one of the million useless things in my brain taking up the space
> Perl could be using)
undef %crusades;
=)
-mjc
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Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:35:06 -0400
From: Lou Moran <lmoran@wtsg.com>
Subject: Re: Negativity in Newsgroup...Newbie Perspective...this sort of sums it up
Message-Id: <XmGYORBYTo+ClTk8YIHyt2Ns6Yfh@4ax.com>
---Whichever side you're on these posts will sum things up...
Original Poster posts vague, possibly rude post
Post Respondent answers with a possibly negative tone
Hundreds of posts ensue, no one gets any smarter, some come away
dumber for the experience... Trolls win.
>>>
>>> I've been trying to find a couple of free/low-cost script that do these
>>> things...
>>You seem to have wandered into the wrong group...
>>> script 1.) A user inputs data (name, email, comments, ect...). The user is
>>> also able to upload an image. This information is then saved via flatfile
>>> (individual html pages will work too) All this info needs to be displayed in
>>> a template (needs not be external HTML I don't mind coding it into the
>>> script, although external would be better) with a table of contents or list
>>> of each users name, that when clicked on shows that user's info. This
>>> doesn't seem like it would be that hard to find, but I've had no luck!!! I
>>> am NOT a perl programmer, so can someone point me in the right direction?
>>Hire a programmer, don't beg from them.
>>> script 2.) This one's a little more advanced, but I need a review script
>>> similar to the one on Amazon.com where people can review and rate products.
>>>
>>> If anyone can help me fine either or both of these, you would be saving my
>>> life!!! I've looked everywhere, but can't seem to find them!!
[SNIPPED... text appears in next post]
--THEN---
>> > You are asking us to search the web for you? Or to do free programming?
>> > Or both? Quite rude, don't you say?
> Look, I'm not trying to be RUDE! Since when was asking for help rude anyway?
> I am not asking anyone to write me a program, or search the web for me. I
> just thought someone might know of scripts that do this.
>
>> > Hire a programmer, don't beg from them.
>
> Well if I had the funds to hire a programmer I wouldn't be posting on this
> group would I?
>
> Why are you flaming me anyway? This post was not off topic.
>Thy skin is thin. That was hardly a flame. Point is, this is a
>group to discuss Perl related topics. Often it is viewed as a
>place to get help with problems related to programming in the Perl
>language. It has never been a place to get free scripts.
...no Y2K was fine, it was W2K we had the problems with...
lmoran@wtsg.com
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