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Perl-Users Digest           Fri, 4 Aug 2000     Volume: 9 Number: 3919

Today's topics:
        Perl script as directory <ppi@searchy.net>
    Re: Perl script as directory <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
    Re: Perl script as directory <eyalb@aks.com>
    Re: Perl script as directory (Logan Shaw)
    Re: Perl script as directory <ppi@searchy.net>
    Re: Permissions Denied errors (Abigail)
    Re: Proxy w/ username/pass validation fperkins@my-deja.com
    Re: R: R: Perl and mSQL Database <iltzu@sci.invalid>
    Re: regex split (Abigail)
    Re: Regexp problem - Stripping HTML (Abigail)
    Re: Regexp problem - Stripping HTML (Abigail)
    Re: Security (with respect to chmod) - user_create.cgi  <bean@agentkhaki.com>
    Re: Sendmail and ACTIVEPERL <odesseus@my-deja.com>
    Re: Subclassing an opaque class (Damian Conway)
    Re: Subclassing an opaque class <iltzu@sci.invalid>
        suidperl - /bin/ps is not secure for setuid operation gary_griffith@hotmail.com
    Re: system() corrupts Hebrew strings (Abigail)
        x.400 perl module dnjjones@my-deja.com
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:41:44 +0200
From: Penpal International <ppi@searchy.net>
Subject: Perl script as directory
Message-Id: <398B2A88.F1EA30E8@searchy.net>

Hi,

Is it possible to make a perl script which indentifies itself as a
directory? It's difficult to explain, so I just say what I want to do:

On my system I have 10 different directories. The contents are exactly
the same, but the date of a file in a specific directory is different.

Now I have an application which reads the contents of a by me defined
directory. But I have 10 directory from which I only need 1 directory
which is the newest one.

How can I make a script which I can give as a directory the right files
to that application.

Maybe you haven't any idea what I want, but this is the best I can to
describe it...


Thanks in advance,

Frank de Bot


-- 
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Date: 04 Aug 2000 15:45:14 -0500
From: Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script as directory
Message-Id: <87vgxgg3hh.fsf@limey.hpcc.uh.edu>

>> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:41:44 +0200,
>> Penpal International <ppi@searchy.net> said:

> On my system I have 10 different directories. The
> contents are exactly the same, but the date of a file in
> a specific directory is different.

> Now I have an application which reads the contents of a
> by me defined directory. But I have 10 directory from
> which I only need 1 directory which is the newest one.

> How can I make a script which I can give as a directory
> the right files to that application.

> Maybe you haven't any idea what I want, but this is the
> best I can to describe it...

I think you're going to have to provide some simple
examples of what you want.  I have absolutely no idea from
reading the above what you're talking about :-)

BTW, is this a stealth CGI question?  It would help to
know.

hth
t
-- 
"With $10,000, we'd be millionaires!"
                                           Homer Simpson


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Date: 05 Aug 2000 00:11:33 +0300
From: Eyal Ben-David <eyalb@aks.com>
Subject: Re: Perl script as directory
Message-Id: <m2u2d0pw8q.fsf@localhost.localdomain>

Penpal International <ppi@searchy.net> writes:

> Hi,
> 
> Is it possible to make a perl script which indentifies itself as a
> directory? It's difficult to explain, so I just say what I want to do:
> 
> On my system I have 10 different directories. The contents are exactly
> the same, but the date of a file in a specific directory is different.
> 
> Now I have an application which reads the contents of a by me defined
> directory. But I have 10 directory from which I only need 1 directory
> which is the newest one.
> 
> How can I make a script which I can give as a directory the right files
> to that application.
> 
> Maybe you haven't any idea what I want, but this is the best I can to
> describe it...
> 
> 

I think symbolic link would be OK.

Create a symbolic link (e.g. 'Latest') that points to the latest directory.
Each time you create a new directory, change the link accordingly.

Eyal


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Date: 4 Aug 2000 16:59:06 -0500
From: logan@cs.utexas.edu (Logan Shaw)
Subject: Re: Perl script as directory
Message-Id: <8mfeba$mdu$1@provolone.cs.utexas.edu>

In article <398B2A88.F1EA30E8@searchy.net>,
Penpal International  <ppi@searchy.net> wrote:
>Is it possible to make a perl script which indentifies itself as a
>directory? It's difficult to explain, so I just say what I want to do:
>
>On my system I have 10 different directories. The contents are exactly
>the same, but the date of a file in a specific directory is different.
>
>Now I have an application which reads the contents of a by me defined
>directory. But I have 10 directory from which I only need 1 directory
>which is the newest one.

Have the application run the perl script, have the perl script return
the name of the directory that's needed.  The application can then use
that directory pathname to open the directory.

Or, if you want to do this in the Unix shell, have the perl script
generate a pathname to the appropriate directory, and do this:

	my-program `perl-script`

This will substitute the perl script's output on the command line so
that "my-program" will be run with the directory name as an argument.

Does that answer the question?  If not, please ask again and try to be
more specific about what you want.

  - Logan


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Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 00:00:06 +0200
From: Penpal International <ppi@searchy.net>
Subject: Re: Perl script as directory
Message-Id: <398B3CE6.C6EAEFC@searchy.net>

Why didn't I thought of that earlier? Thanks!!

Eyal Ben-David wrote:
> 
> Penpal International <ppi@searchy.net> writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is it possible to make a perl script which indentifies itself as a
> > directory? It's difficult to explain, so I just say what I want to do:
> >
> > On my system I have 10 different directories. The contents are exactly
> > the same, but the date of a file in a specific directory is different.
> >
> > Now I have an application which reads the contents of a by me defined
> > directory. But I have 10 directory from which I only need 1 directory
> > which is the newest one.
> >
> > How can I make a script which I can give as a directory the right files
> > to that application.
> >
> > Maybe you haven't any idea what I want, but this is the best I can to
> > describe it...
> >
> >
> 
> I think symbolic link would be OK.
> 
> Create a symbolic link (e.g. 'Latest') that points to the latest directory.
> Each time you create a new directory, change the link accordingly.
> 
> Eyal

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Date: 04 Aug 2000 16:07:49 EDT
From: abigail@foad.org (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Permissions Denied errors
Message-Id: <slrn8om8k4.pjo.abigail@alexandra.foad.org>

Dan Hu (Daniel.Hu@dartmouth.edu) wrote on MMDXXIX September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:8mc232$6hm$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU>:
** Hello,
** 
** I am writing scripts that would allow me to create and delete files to my
** web account via any browser. I am getting Permission Denied errors when I
** try to call an open command.

Well, I guess you don't have permission then.

**                              Also, unlink doesn't seem to be deleting an
** files.

And yet it returns true? Or do you forget to check its return value,
and you ignore $! as well?

** I have found that if i chmod 777 the target directories, all is well. But
** this is a highly insecure solution.
** 
** I'm hoping that there's a way to give scripts "permissions" for such
** operations, but am clueless as to how to do it. Any help is much
** appreciated.

That isn't Perl issue. You might ask that in a group related to web issues,
or better, contact your system administrator regarding any security issies.



Abigail
-- 
sub camel (^#87=i@J&&&#]u'^^s]#'#={123{#}7890t[0.9]9@+*`"'***}A&&&}n2o}00}t324i;
h[{e **###{r{+P={**{e^^^#'#i@{r'^=^{l+{#}H***i[0.9]&@a5`"':&^;&^,*&^$43##@@####;
c}^^^&&&k}&&&}#=e*****[]}'r####'`=437*{#};::'1[0.9]2@43`"'*#==[[.{{],,,1278@#@);
print+((($llama=prototype'camel')=~y|+{#}$=^*&[0-9]i@:;`"',.| |d)&&$llama."\n");


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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:10:37 GMT
From: fperkins@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Proxy w/ username/pass validation
Message-Id: <8mfbg8$cpt$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

Cool, so I use:
 $ua->credentials($netloc, $realm, $uname, $pass)

Ok, I read the perldoc on LWP::UserAgent and also did a search
for "credentials".  I can't clarify what exactly $netloc and $realm are
and the difference.

What makes sense to me is that you provide a $uname and $pass to a
proxy server.  So which is the proxy server? $realm or $netloc?  Since
it needs both $realm and $netloc defined, Im guessing that it's not
that simple.  *sigh*

This is what I found in past posts:

In reading post "Why won't $ua->credentials($URL,$realm,$uname,$pword)
work on a web site?", it looks as though $realm might be the prompt
from the proxy.  So if my proxy states: "Please enter Username", that
is what I use for $realm?

"Realm is an arbitrary string sent by the server that is intended to
indicate what context you're authorizing yourself for (for example, if
there are multiple things on the same server you might want to
authorize yourself for)"  Again, is my interpertation above correct?

If I am correct, how do I actually find what the server is asking me?
Since I don't admin the proxy, I cant read the access logs...

Maybe someone can spell it out for me. Thanks.

Frank

In article <87bsz9gfbb.fsf@limey.hpcc.uh.edu>,
  Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, 04 Aug 2000 16:09:28 GMT,
> >> fperkins@my-deja.com said:
>
> > Ok, I need to post a query string going through our
> > firewall, which also prompts for a valid USERNAME and
> > PASSWORD.
>
> > I understand how to specify a firewall:
> > ...
> > However, how can I specify that this request must be
> > authenticated by a valid username and pass?  I checked
> > my Perl Cookbook and searched the forum and Perl FAQ but
> > couldnt find anything.  I guess im looking for someway
> > to specify:
>
> perldoc LWP::UserAgent
>
> lists the method get_basic_credentials() which it appears
> you need to sub-class in some way.
>
> If you have the credentials in the code (which may not be
> a good idea!)  you could probably just sub-class
> LWP::UserAgent and rewrite get_basic_credentials() as
>
>     sub get_basic_credentials { ('username', 'password') }
>
> (untested)
>
> LWP::UserAgent suggests looking at lwp-request, which
> shows how to sub-class LWP::UserAgent and override
> get_basic_credentials() (prompt for input from STDIN in
> this case).
>
> hth
> t
> --
> "With $10,000, we'd be millionaires!"
>                                            Homer Simpson
>


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Date: 4 Aug 2000 20:20:49 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Re: R: R: Perl and mSQL Database
Message-Id: <965420108.11718@itz.pp.sci.fi>

In article <8meish$dfb$1@nslave2.tin.it>, Roberto Gnerre wrote:
>install_driver(Msql) failed: Can't locate DBD/Msql.pm in @NIC at (eval 1)
                                                          ^^^^

This is probably not relevant to youre original problem, but the above
line just happened to catch my eye.

When you first posted this error message, I assumed you'd typed it in
manually and made a typo.  But as you've posted the exact same line
again, I'm now wondering if this is really what it said, or whether
there is some more mundane explanation for this..

-- 
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
"The screwdriver *is* the portable method."  -- Abigail
Please ignore Godzilla and its pseudonyms - do not feed the troll.



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Date: 04 Aug 2000 16:21:34 EDT
From: abigail@foad.org (Abigail)
Subject: Re: regex split
Message-Id: <slrn8om9dt.pjo.abigail@alexandra.foad.org>

Drew Simonis (care227@attglobal.net) wrote on MMDXXIX September MCMXCIII
in <URL:news:3989D428.6D67063D@attglobal.net>:
@@ John wrote:
@@ > 
@@ > I have the following bit of code that looks for the word over and splits
@@ > upon finding it. Can I put the regex in the split argument ?
@@ > 
@@ > Thanks John
@@ > 
@@ >   if ($c =~ s/ over / over /i) {
@@ >    ($a,$b) =  split(/over/,$c);
@@ >    }
@@ 
@@ Why are you doing it this way?  $c =~ s/ over / over /i is a no-op.

No, it's not a noop. s/// does have side effects, *and* has a return
value. The return value is actually used.

@@ Have you read the documentation for split() yet?  Please take the
@@ time to do that:

Are you suggesting the behaviour of the above code can be done with split
alone? I don't see how that can be done, barring regexes that included
code to be executed. I wouldn't use the s///, but I would use a conditional.



Abigail
-- 
perl -e '* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
         / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / 
         % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % %;
         BEGIN {% % = ($ _ = " " => print "Just Another Perl Hacker\n")}'


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Date: 04 Aug 2000 16:12:55 EDT
From: abigail@foad.org (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Regexp problem - Stripping HTML
Message-Id: <slrn8om8tn.pjo.abigail@alexandra.foad.org>

Jeff Yoak (jeff@yoak.com) wrote on MMDXXVIII September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:8m9lo904qv@news1.newsguy.com>:
<>  
<> Hmmm....  OK.  I take it back.  I'm not sure what's involved in parsing
<> non-standard tags with those tools.  If you are sure that the tag will
<> start with '<?php' and will not contain '?>' until the termination of the
<> tag (I don't know PHP, but this seems safe) , you can use:
<> 
<> $x =~ s/<\?php.*?\?>//g;

No, that requires more than the conditions you stated. It also requires
that every <?php substring starts a tag.



Abigail
-- 
perl -we 'print q{print q{print q{print q{print q{print q{print q{print q{print 
               qq{Just Another Perl Hacker\n}}}}}}}}}'    |\
perl -w | perl -w | perl -w | perl -w | perl -w | perl -w | perl -w | perl -w


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Date: 04 Aug 2000 16:17:08 EDT
From: abigail@foad.org (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Regexp problem - Stripping HTML
Message-Id: <slrn8om95j.pjo.abigail@alexandra.foad.org>

Carsten Heinrigs (carst@ocean7.com) wrote on MMDXXX September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:3jDi5.25439$GS1.620253@news-west.usenetserver.com>:
`` In article <8m9bf0$r06$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, mbutt@my-deja.com wrote:
`` > I am trying to construct a regular expression to strip certain HTML tags
`` > out of a string.
`` > 
`` > the string $x contains an entire  HTML document. I wan to remove the PHP
`` > tags from it.
`` > 
`` > e.g.
`` > <?php echo "hello"?><br><h3>blah blah blah</h3><?php echo "good bye"?>
`` > 
`` > using the regexp s/\<\?.*\?\>// will remove everything. Because it
`` > matches the first '<?' and the last '?>' without noticing if there are
`` > any other starting and closing tags in between. How do I get it to
`` > remove only the php tags and leave behine any HTML in between.
`` > 
`` > thank you,
`` > 	Martin.
`` 
`` s/<\?[^?]*\?>//g
`` ???


    <!-- <? -->
    40k of document, not having a ? followed by a >.
    <!-- ?> -->

Congratualations. You just wiped out the entire document - a document
not contain a single bit of PHP. Your boss will be so pleased.


Abigail
-- 
perl -wle\$_=\<\<EOT\;y/\\n/\ /\;print\; -eJust -eanother -ePerl -eHacker -eEOT


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Date: 04 Aug 2000 15:31:49 EDT
From: bean <bean@agentkhaki.com>
Subject: Re: Security (with respect to chmod) - user_create.cgi [0/1]
Message-Id: <MPG.13f4e1ee7cde32e798968c@news.concentric.net>

> Don't see why you would want to use a system-call at all. If the files
> created has the wrong permissions, have a look at 'perldoc -f umask'.

Very cool. This book I've been (read was... the circular G file ate it 
this morning) using said I had to use that code to do what I was doing. 
After reading those perdocs, I dumped the system call, and what do you 
know it worked. Thanks.

> In any case, you should never have to use a system-call to change
> permissions on a file. Have a look at 'perldoc -f chmod' to see what
> the built-in function 'chmod' can do for you.

Don't even need it. Thanks again.

bean


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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:46:03 GMT
From: Paris <odesseus@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Sendmail and ACTIVEPERL
Message-Id: <8mf31b$5n4$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

In article <rQni5.14$f_.2580@vic.nntp.telstra.net>,
  "Wyzelli" <wyzelli@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> When running a 'proper' PERL interpreter on a proper OS I can usually
>> pipe to the the 'sendmail' program in usr/lib to send mail.
>> However there is no such luxury on an NT Server running activeperl..
>>
>> Does anyone have a clue how you send mail from such a server???
>>
> Too few people know of the various sendmail ports to Windows.
> I prefer the one from www.dynamicstate.com but there are others
> (including one from Microsoft).
> That helps keep your scripts portable.

This is all true, but I don't understand how a port of sendmail
can work, because NT cannot PIPE or FORK because it isn't a real
multitasking OS.
How do you use the sendmail.exe type programs?

--
Paris. Not the City.


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Date: 4 Aug 2000 19:22:05 GMT
From: damian@cs.monash.edu.au (Damian Conway)
Subject: Re: Subclassing an opaque class
Message-Id: <8mf54t$6qv$1@towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au>

anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel) writes:

>This ingenious method has one little problem: During object destruction,
>perl will try to call the DESTROY method in MySuperclass, which now
>leads (through AUTOLOAD) to the unconditional call of the DESTROY
>method in MySubclass.  If you don't have one, perl will complain.
>This is easily mended by inserting "return if $AUTOLOAD eq 'DESTROY';"
>before the last line of AUTOLOAD.

Thanks for pointing that out: in the heat of coding I often forget
AUTOLOAD's interaction with destructors :-(

Damian


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Date: 4 Aug 2000 20:43:12 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Re: Subclassing an opaque class
Message-Id: <965420866.21756@itz.pp.sci.fi>

In article <8me5pq$n14$1@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>, Anno Siegel wrote:
>It is a good thing that Perl has methods to solve this common
>problem with inheritance.  But having to resort to AUTOLOAD in
>this way, isn't it also a leetle bit icky?

Inspired by your code, I wrote a little module that accomplishes all
this with a single use statement.  (And left it on a system I can only
access from work.  I feel like an idiot.  I might post it tomorrow.)

However, this brought up a tricky issue: When perl can't find a method
in a class or any of its superclasses, it looks for an AUTOLOAD sub in
any of those classes.  This works just fine if only one of the classes
uses AUTOLOAD, but even after grepping the PODs I still haven't been
able to find a way to continue the search if the first AUTOLOAD found
can't handle the request.

Now this seems like such a common problem that I'm afraid the answer
is something really trivial and obvious, but I just don't see it..


(Hey.  I think this is the first time I've actually asked a question
in this newsgroup.  Feels sort of weird..)

-- 
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
"The screwdriver *is* the portable method."  -- Abigail
Please ignore Godzilla and its pseudonyms - do not feed the troll.



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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 21:37:19 GMT
From: gary_griffith@hotmail.com
Subject: suidperl - /bin/ps is not secure for setuid operation
Message-Id: <8mfd2f$dqj$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

Can anyone tell me why this gives the error: "This /bin/ps is not
secure for setuid operation."?  How do I get /bin/ps to run with
suidperl?

Also - if anyone knows of a good source of documentation on suidperl
(other than the repeated notes that simply say "Use It"):

#!/usr/bin/suidperl

use Shell;

$ENV{'PATH'} = '/bin:/usr/bin';
$ENV{'BASH_ENV'} = '/home/joe/.bashrc';

print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
print "<html>\n";
print "<body>Hello<P>\n";
print "<PRE>\n";

system "echo `/bin/ps -C httpd -opid`";

print "</PRE>\n";
print "</body>\n";
print "</html>\n";


$ perl /home/httpd/cgi-bin/s3.pl
Content-type: text/html

<html>
<body>Hello<P>
<PRE>
This /bin/ps is not secure for setuid operation.
</PRE>
</body>
</html>


For the time being, I can just run the "ps -C httpd -opid" into a file
at startup, and then make my suidperl script list the contents of the
file.  Still would like to know more about what I am allowed to do in
suidperl.

-Gary


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Date: 04 Aug 2000 20:28:50 GMT
From: abigail@foad.org (Abigail)
Subject: Re: system() corrupts Hebrew strings
Message-Id: <slrn8om9rf.pjo.abigail@alexandra.foad.org>

Amir E. Aharoni (amir_e_a@netvision.net.il) wrote on MMDXXX September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:8meflm$isp$1@news.netvision.net.il>:
!! 
!! first of all - i'm using ActivePerl 5.003 on Windows NT 4 SP 5
!! Hebrew-enabled
!! 
!! Questions:
!! 
!! 1. As far i understand Perl 5.6 has better unicode, but will an upgrade
!! really help?
!! 2. Can it be solved without an upgrade?


5.003 has *NO* Unicode support. The next version, 5.004 has *NO* Unicode
support either. The version after that, 5.005 has *NO* Unicode support.

Perl 5.6.0 is the first Perl with partial Unicode support.

Perl 5.003 was released over 4 years ago. It isn't maintained, and CERT
has doomed it a security hazard. Upgrading solves more than your Unicode
issues.


Does that answer your question?


Abigail
-- 
perl -we '$@="\145\143\150\157\040\042\112\165\163\164\040\141\156\157\164".
             "\150\145\162\040\120\145\162\154\040\110\141\143\153\145\162".
             "\042\040\076\040\057\144\145\166\057\164\164\171";`$@`'


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Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 18:22:24 GMT
From: dnjjones@my-deja.com
Subject: x.400 perl module
Message-Id: <8mf1kq$4kr$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

I apologize if this is a duplicate post.  I tried to post this AM with
no success.  Anyway, my question is this:  does anyone know of a Perl
module that will allow X.400 mail messages to be created easily?

I am trying to test a transaction processing application and it
receives documents via FTP, SMTP, X.400 and some proprietary
protocols.  I want to be able to script X.400 messages being sent to
the application server.  Can anyone help me out?  Thanks.

Jeremy Jones


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to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu.  

| NOTE: The mail to news gateway, and thus the ability to submit articles
| through this service to the newsgroup, has been removed. I do not have
| time to individually vet each article to make sure that someone isn't
| abusing the service, and I no longer have any desire to waste my time
| dealing with the campus admins when some fool complains to them about an
| article that has come through the gateway instead of complaining
| to the source.

To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
clpa@perl.com.

To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.

For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.


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