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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 25 Jul 2000 Volume: 9 Number: 3795
Today's topics:
Re: perl as part of unix distribution (Eric Bohlman)
Re: perl as part of unix distribution (Jonathan Fosburgh)
Re: perl as part of unix distribution (Jonathan Fosburgh)
Perl Power Tools Project Asleep? <nathan.thompsonNOnaSPAM@respironics.com.invalid>
Re: perl v. tcl <morten@nospam.org>
Re: perl v. tcl (Eric Bohlman)
Re: perl v. tcl (Cameron Laird)
Re: perl v. tcl <morten@nospam.org>
popup.pm fatdaz64@my-deja.com
Re: regexp help (Bernard El-Hagin)
Re: Searching for errant modules <lorenzo.gordon@lshtm.ac.uk>
Re: Searching for errant modules <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Sending email with attachment <six4eight@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
Re: Sending email with attachment <six4eight@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
Re: Sending email with attachment (Decklin Foster)
Re: Setting $/ from variable - accepting meta character (Philip 'Yes, that's my address' Newton)
Re: Setting $/ from variable - accepting meta character <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Re: Setting $/ from variable - accepting meta character (Villy Kruse)
Re: sort with use strict (M.J.T. Guy)
Re: Stumped a Digitalthink PERL tutor (Eric Bohlman)
Re: When will use the flock? <perls@my-deja.com>
Re: Why won't "use strict;" work? <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 08:54:40 GMT
From: ebohlman@netcom.com (Eric Bohlman)
Subject: Re: perl as part of unix distribution
Message-Id: <8ljkkg$ksr$6@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>
Russ Jones (russ_jones@rac.ray.com) wrote:
: But here it is: If Perl blows up for some reason and brings your
: multi-billion dollar business down, or causes an cruise missile you
: made to fall out of the sky onto a childrens' hospital, or something
: else really bad like that, who do hold responsible? It's something
: that your stockholders and auditors and lawyers have a right to ask,
: because if you lose a few million bucks, or kill someone with this
: software, you're going to have to answer for it to your stockholders,
: or the survivors. Who can you sue for loss of business, or to offset
: the lawsuits that you're going to get hammered with, or whatever.
: Since you didn't pay for the software and don't have any kind of
: guarantee of usability, you're stuck.
The license agreement for every significant piece of commercial software
I've ever seen includes a statement releasing the manufacturer from
liability for consequential damages such as those you mentioned. Whether
such disclaimers are in fact enforceable has not, AFAIK (though IANAL),
been tested in court, but I would imagine that if you were to sue for
multi-million dollar consequential damages, the case would wind up before
the Supreme court several years and several million dollars later. The
implied security simply isn't there.
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 07:49:05 +0600
From: syjef@BOGUS.mdacc.tmc.edu (Jonathan Fosburgh)
Subject: Re: perl as part of unix distribution
Message-Id: <8F7C4FB21syjefmailmdandersono@143.111.88.41>
lupe@alanya.lupe-christoph.de (Lupe Christoph) wrote in
<8li7df$q5t$1@alanya.lupe-christoph.de>:
>dgallardo@my-deja.com writes:
>
>>Sorry if this is off topic or inflammatory.
>
>>Is perl part of any standard unix distribution? Are there any moves in
>>this direction.
>
>perl 5.005_03 is included with Solaris 8 (first time to have perl
>on board). It's not on the freeware CD, but on one of the OS CDs.
>
This same version os shipped with AIX 4.3.3, and I seem to recall reading
on perl.com that HP-UX ships with ... perl 4!
<snip>
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 07:51:12 +0600
From: syjef@BOGUS.mdacc.tmc.edu (Jonathan Fosburgh)
Subject: Re: perl as part of unix distribution
Message-Id: <8F7C5B677syjefmailmdandersono@143.111.88.41>
nitty28@excite.com (NP) wrote in
<%I4f5.141402$t91.1083759@news4.giganews.com>:
<snip>
>Yes you can. Well, let me rephrase; you can "get jiggy wit"
>/var/sadm/install/contents and toast it from there, along with
>/var/sadm/pkg once you've been forced to install it. :-) Then again,
>the *BSD's force you to install Perl as part of the core -- so you've
>got the same installation issues there.
At least in FreeBSD, you can tell the system not to build perl if you are
doing source upgrades, and they may be moving to letting you take it out of
binary installs.
<snip>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 05:33:40 -0700
From: quagga <nathan.thompsonNOnaSPAM@respironics.com.invalid>
Subject: Perl Power Tools Project Asleep?
Message-Id: <1cb33308.018bfc9b@usw-ex0106-046.remarq.com>
So, is the Perl Power Tools project in low-power shutdown? Is
it resting? Neglected? Defunct? Waiting ... for Godot?
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:41:55 +0200
From: "Morten Skaarup Jensen" <morten@nospam.org>
Subject: Re: perl v. tcl
Message-Id: <8ljfp9$ika$1@news.net.uni-c.dk>
Wow, I loved seeing this the twosidedness of this discussion.
I have a similar question which I might as well pose now:
What main advantages disadvantages does Perl have over Tcl when one is
developing interactive web pages.
Background: I already know how to program Tcl, but know nothing about Perl,
except that it is by far the most popular of the two for interactive web
pages. Is this because it is better? Is it possibly easier to do simple
arithmetic?
Morten
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 08:15:26 GMT
From: ebohlman@netcom.com (Eric Bohlman)
Subject: Re: perl v. tcl
Message-Id: <8ljiau$ksr$4@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>
Morten Skaarup Jensen (morten@nospam.org) wrote:
: I have a similar question which I might as well pose now:
:
: What main advantages disadvantages does Perl have over Tcl when one is
: developing interactive web pages.
Define "interactive web pages."
: Background: I already know how to program Tcl, but know nothing about Perl,
: except that it is by far the most popular of the two for interactive web
: pages. Is this because it is better? Is it possibly easier to do simple
: arithmetic?
I'd say it's because at the time people first started writing CGI
scripts, Perl was better known and more widely available than Tcl.
If you're comfortable with Tcl and don't find yourself running into any
snags with it, then use it. Probably the biggest advantage of Perl for
CGI work is the large amount of code, in the form of modules, that exists
for solving CGI problems. If you need this and can't find the equivalent
in Tcl, then and only then consider Perl. One thing to keep in mind is
that the number of people who can *maintain* Tcl code is smaller than the
number who can maintain Perl code; that may or may not be important in
your situation.
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 06:29:15 -0500
From: claird@starbase.neosoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: perl v. tcl
Message-Id: <1BADE709ED2C183E.21188CB2DFAC2EEB.76FD596827F53247@lp.airnews.net>
In article <8ljiau$ksr$4@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>,
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@netcom.com> wrote:
>Morten Skaarup Jensen (morten@nospam.org) wrote:
>: I have a similar question which I might as well pose now:
>:
>: What main advantages disadvantages does Perl have over Tcl when one is
>: developing interactive web pages.
>
>Define "interactive web pages."
I'll speculate he intends what many of us
generally call "dynamic Web pages", as op-
posed to "static Web pages".
>
>: Background: I already know how to program Tcl, but know nothing about Perl,
>: except that it is by far the most popular of the two for interactive web
>: pages. Is this because it is better? Is it possibly easier to do simple
>: arithmetic?
>
>I'd say it's because at the time people first started writing CGI
>scripts, Perl was better known and more widely available than Tcl.
>
>If you're comfortable with Tcl and don't find yourself running into any
>snags with it, then use it. Probably the biggest advantage of Perl for
>CGI work is the large amount of code, in the form of modules, that exists
>for solving CGI problems. If you need this and can't find the equivalent
>in Tcl, then and only then consider Perl. One thing to keep in mind is
>that the number of people who can *maintain* Tcl code is smaller than the
>number who can maintain Perl code; that may or may not be important in
>your situation.
>
All true.
Yes, it's easier to do simple arithmetic in Perl.
No, Perl's dominance of CGI isn't because it's better.
It's a result of historic contingencies--in '93-94, Web
pages were being put up by Unix sysads, and Perl was
very popular with them because it was like awk and sed,
and ...
--
Cameron Laird <claird@NeoSoft.com>
Business: http://www.Phaseit.net
Personal: http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/home.html
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:02:25 +0200
From: "Morten Skaarup Jensen" <morten@nospam.org>
Subject: Re: perl v. tcl
Message-Id: <8lk2i4$qro$1@news.net.uni-c.dk>
"Cameron Laird" <claird@starbase.neosoft.com> wrote in message
news:1BADE709ED2C183E.21188CB2DFAC2EEB.76FD596827F53247@lp.airnews.net...
> In article <8ljiau$ksr$4@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>,
> Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@netcom.com> wrote:
> >Morten Skaarup Jensen (morten@nospam.org) wrote:
> >: I have a similar question which I might as well pose now:
> >:
> >: What main advantages disadvantages does Perl have over Tcl when one is
> >: developing interactive web pages.
> >
> >Define "interactive web pages."
> I'll speculate he intends what many of us
> generally call "dynamic Web pages", as op-
> posed to "static Web pages".
Yes. I mean processing forms, retrieving and saving data in databases, or
possibly managing this data oneself. I would just use pure HTML for static
web pages.
Morten
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:31:10 GMT
From: fatdaz64@my-deja.com
Subject: popup.pm
Message-Id: <8ljmov$8sv$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Hi Folks
I am trying to get a piece of perl tk code working and I am running
into a problem with a "require popup.pm". I have searched Active State
and CPAN for this module but I can't find any reference to it.
Can anybody shed any light on this?
Cheers
Darren
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:56:58 GMT
From: bernard.el-hagin@lido-tech.net (Bernard El-Hagin)
Subject: Re: regexp help
Message-Id: <slrn8nr3c0.61h.bernard.el-hagin@gdndev25.lido-tech>
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 20:15:18 GMT, Mads Orbesen Troest
<mads@troest.NEVERMORE.dk> wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 19:16:53, cyriac@usna.navy.mil (George Cyriac {EME
>SEAP}) wrote:
>
>> $from{'description'} =~ /\\n/<br>/;
>
>Try something like:
>
> $txt = "this is\na test!";
> $txt =~ s/\n/\<br\>/g;
^^^^^^
> print $txt;
> -> this is<br>a test!
No need to escape the <>'s.
Bernard
--
perl -le 'open(JustAnotherPerlHacker,"")or$_="B$!e$!r$!n$!a$!r$!d$!";
print split/No such file or directory/;'
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:45:00 GMT
From: Lorenzo Gordon <lorenzo.gordon@lshtm.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Searching for errant modules
Message-Id: <8ljk2d$705$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Thanks for your reply. your help is greatly appreciated.
Lorenzo.
In article <8lis3r$32q$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>,
"Randy Kobes" <randy@theory.uwinnipeg.ca> wrote:
>
> Lorenzo Gordon <lorenzo.gordon@lshtm.ac.uk>
> wrote in message news:8lhpg2$rmh$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> [ ... ]
> > I was hoping someone could tell me where I might find compiled
modules
> > for Win32 of:
> > PlRPC
> > Net::Daemon
> > DBI::ProxyServer
> > DBD::Proxy
> > Obviously, I have tried the PPM method, but it cannot find them.
> > As I say, I can download the source code, but without the Win32
version
> > of make, I cannot do anything with this code.
>
> DBI::ProxyServer and DBD::Proxy are in the DBI package,
> which you can install via ppm. RPC::PIServer and Net::Daemon
> don't need a C compiler to build, so if you grab nmake from
> ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/softlib/MSLFILES/nmake15.exe,
> you should be able to install these packages by the usual
> perl Makefile.PL
> nmake
> nmake test
> nmake install
> procedure.
>
> best regards,
> randy kobes
>
>
--
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Software Applications Developer
London School Of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:56:53 +0200
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: Searching for errant modules
Message-Id: <Pine.GHP.4.21.0007251348570.19901-100000@hpplus03.cern.ch>
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Lorenzo Gordon wrote:
> Thanks for your reply. your help is greatly appreciated.
(and then copied the entire damned article, complete with sig).
Nothing personal, but this kind of posting is completely infuriating.
AFAICS, the worldwide perl community isn't in the least interested in
whether you appreciated the help. If you want to do nothing more than
to personally thank the poster, then send them a mail, ferchrissake.
If, on the other hand, you understood the advice, tried it, found it
applied to your situation and that it worked as desired, then please
do something useful in return: SAY SO, and for bonus points, summarise
in your own words what it is that we can all learn from your
experience.
AND STOP QUOTING THE WHOLE DAMNED ARTICLE that you're following up to.
Thanks.
What ever became of news.announce.newusers?
(f'up set).
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:26:40 GMT
From: "Eelke Kleijn" <six4eight@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
Subject: Sending email with attachment
Message-Id: <QPef5.2287$Gd1.27058@Typhoon.bART.nl>
Hi all,
What I am trying to do is send an automated email to someone that submits
the form. The email contains 1 to 8 attachments (.pdf files), depending on
how the form is submitted. My question is how do I include them in my email?
I am not using any modules, only CGI qw(:standard)
I know how to send an email with both plain text and html. I also know how
to make clear what the attachment is using
Boundary="_NextPart_putsomestuffhere_";
But what I don't know is how the specify a path to the attachment, if this
is possible. I can't seem to find out how to include an attachment that is
present in the same directory. I don't want to use a module, by the way.
Tnx in advance,
Eelke Kleijn
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:28:16 GMT
From: "Eelke Kleijn" <six4eight@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Sending email with attachment
Message-Id: <kRef5.2288$Gd1.27564@Typhoon.bART.nl>
"Eelke Kleijn" <six4eight@NOSPAMhotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:QPef5.2287$Gd1.27058@Typhoon.bART.nl...
> Hi all,
<SNIP>
>
>I don't want to use a module, by the way.
>
<SNIP>
>
Unless there is no other way, of course
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 12:03:06 GMT
From: decklin+usenet@red-bean.com (Decklin Foster)
Subject: Re: Sending email with attachment
Message-Id: <8ljvlq$4oo34$2@ID-10059.news.cis.dfn.de>
Eelke Kleijn <six4eight@NOSPAMhotmail.com> writes:
> Unless there is no other way, of course
Sure there is:
`which mutt`;
die 'you lose' if ($? >> 8);
my $cmd = 'echo "blah blah" | mutt -x -s "hello there" ';
foreach (@files) {
$cmd .= "-a $_ ";
}
$cmd .= "$recipient";
system($cmd);
die 'bad mutt, no biscuit' if ($? >> 8);
HTH. HAND.
--
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are no ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS. I'm very probably wrong. -- BSD fortune(6)
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 07:11:43 GMT
From: nospam.newton@gmx.li (Philip 'Yes, that's my address' Newton)
Subject: Re: Setting $/ from variable - accepting meta characters
Message-Id: <397d3a6e.223182784@news.nikoma.de>
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:36:41 GMT, kcivey@cpcug.org (Keith Calvert Ivey)
wrote:
> Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
> >In article <8lh6le$dil$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, aqutiv@my-deja.com says...
>
> >> \cn, \xnn, and \0nn are escape
> >> sequence that conclude more the one following chars.
> >
> >What about \0n and \0nnn ?
>
> What about \1nn and \2nn?
What about \3nn? (255 = 0377)
Cheers,
Philip
--
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If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:15:20 GMT
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: Setting $/ from variable - accepting meta characters
Message-Id: <telqnssuddjgtk7tni4sk2ak6dc6gmnfqv@4ax.com>
aqutiv@my-deja.com wrote:
>> > %replace =( 'n' => "\n", 't' => "\t", # ...
>> > );
>> > s/\\(.)/$replace{$1} || $1/ge;
>>
>> Now see if you are able to come up with a hash that include all the
>> metacharacter that perl accepts (including \000, \x00 etc..)? ;-)
>\cn, \xnn, and \0nn are escape
>sequence that conclude more the one following chars.
Well alright then...
%replace = ( n => "\n", t => "\t", f => "\f", r => "\r",
b => "\b"); # this about it?
s/\\c([\@a-zA-Z\[\]_^]|\\\\)|\\(x[0-9a-fA-F]+|[0-7]+)|\\(.)/
$1? chr( 31 & ord $1): defined $3 ? $replace{$3} || $3 :
chr oct $2/ge;
The funny thing with oct() is that, when fed a string like "x12", it
will treat it as a hex number. So '\x80' and '\200' is the same case.
--
Bart.
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 09:17:34 GMT
From: vek@pharmnl.ohout.pharmapartners.nl (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Setting $/ from variable - accepting meta characters
Message-Id: <slrn8nqmpe.v6q.vek@pharmnl.ohout.pharmapartners.nl>
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 23:36:41 GMT, Keith Calvert Ivey <kcivey@cpcug.org> wrote:
>Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>>In article <8lh6le$dil$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, aqutiv@my-deja.com says...
>
>>> \cn, \xnn, and \0nn are escape
>>> sequence that conclude more the one following chars.
>>
>>What about \0n and \0nnn ?
>
>What about \1nn and \2nn?
>
\0nnn wil be interpreted as \0nn followed by the literal character 'n'.
Try
$ perl -we 'print "Value is \0123\n";'
Value is
3
Villy
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 11:07:59 GMT
From: mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
Subject: Re: sort with use strict
Message-Id: <8ljsef$oi$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
In article <x7d7k39r8m.fsf@home.sysarch.com>,
Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Y" == Young <noemail@noemail.com> writes:
>
> Y> How come I don't need to declare $a and $b with the following line, when
> Y> I use strict? How come I get an error if I do declare those variables?
>
>$a and $b are allowed to be used without declarations even under use
>strict. thisis just because of the way they are used in sort.
>
> Y> I've seen in a book that I'm supposed to use $::a->[0], etc., except the
> Y> example was with associative arrays. I tried using $::a->[0], etc. in
> Y> one attempt, and sorting did not occur at all. In some shorter code, I
> Y> tried the same thing, and it did sort anyway. I'm confused! Can anyone
> Y> explain?
>
>$a is always in package main (or :: by itself) so using $::a is no
>different but may fix a case where you did declare a private version of
>$a with my.
ITYM "_If_ $a is in package main, $::a is no different ... "
$a can be in an arbitrary package.
Mike Guy
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Date: 25 Jul 2000 09:20:53 GMT
From: ebohlman@netcom.com (Eric Bohlman)
Subject: Re: Stumped a Digitalthink PERL tutor
Message-Id: <8ljm5l$ksr$7@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>
arerickson@my-deja.com wrote:
: There should be a very simple answer to this but my PERL tutor couldn't
: provide one.
:
: I have PERL set up on win98, programs work in WIN when you click on them at
: lightening speed.....IN DOS, when I am in the perl\bin directory and try to
: run PERL, it says:
:
: PROGRAM CANNOT RUN IN DOS MODE.
Go to the "Program" property page of the shortcut you use to get a DOS
prompt, click the "Advanced" button, and uncheck the "use MS-DOS Mode"
box. What's happening is that the way the shortcut is set up, it's
actually unloading Windows and putting you into a compatibility mode
intended primarily for DOS games instead of giving you a Windows console
prompt. Perl can't run in that compatibility mode. If you do run DOS
games, make a copy of the shortcut before changing the properties.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:46:49 GMT
From: Perls <perls@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: When will use the flock?
Message-Id: <8lk27o$gj1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Hello!
In article <397BEEB0.3F379B4E@hotmail.com>,
Tom <chaptera@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I saw a lot of example from the web <-- free of source code!
> I find that most of the people will not using the flock when some
> data necessary to write on the file.
>
> Is it possible?
>
> The application like a guestbook, forum. They didn't take care
> with the file sharing? Is it safe?
>
> I tried to write 2 small programs for writing data into the same file.
> Then run it at the same time nearly.
> The later submitted program will automatically waiting the other one.
> The platform is UNIX!
>
> Thanks
>
> ---
> Tom
>
>
Flock need in case if can be one time access from two or more copies of
same
script running at webserver, but one trying to read file and second
write
it.
At web cgi programming usially used flock when write goes.
flock(FILE,2); - it exclusive lock which will removed after closing file
Any others copies of script (which read or want to write) will be wait,
while file not will be closed.
Its for write.
For reading - some copies of script in memory can in one time read data
from
files.
PS: some unix versions (and windows too) not supported flock function.
--
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Alex
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 09:19:04 GMT
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: Why won't "use strict;" work?
Message-Id: <1smqnskcmq1di8lfr1jlrbjproq7kkq5eh@4ax.com>
BUCK NAKED1 wrote:
>I just hope that I don't have to add all of those STDIN STDOUT $ENV,
>etc. things too.
No. These are recognized by default.
--
Bart.
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to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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