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Perl-Users Digest Wed, 12 Jul 2000 Volume: 9 Number: 3640
Today's topics:
Re: "VALUE" of web form fields stops at spaces? <lr@hpl.hp.com>
(no, a BAD MOVE) Re: A superb opportunity! <nospam@nospam.com>
Re: <newbie>How to determine current location (pwd) in <nospam@nospam.com>
ANNOUNCE: epd2svg 0.9 <sanface@sanface.com>
Re: Anyone have a Free Meta Crawler Script <hillr@ugsolutions.com>
Re: Anyone have a Free Meta Crawler Script <hillr@ugsolutions.com>
Re: Anyone heard anything about "Aestiva HTML/OS" <nospam@nospam.com>
Re: Anyone heard anything about "Aestiva HTML/OS" <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Brandon Metcalf)
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <care227@attglobal.net>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <mjcarman@home.com>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <nospam@nospam.com>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <smerr612@mailandnews.com>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <nospam@nospam.com>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <nospam@nospam.com>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <smerr612@mailandnews.com>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Stone Jeremiah Ethan)
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Craig Berry)
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Craig Berry)
Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Craig Berry)
Re: ATTENTION PERL MEATHEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <smerr612@mailandnews.com>
Re: ATTENTION PERL MEATHEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <nospam@nospam.com>
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:36:06 -0700
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: "VALUE" of web form fields stops at spaces?
Message-Id: <MPG.13d65a6ef0ef11a098abbf@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <Pine.OSF.4.21.0007120227490.27676-100000@mail.med.upenn.edu>
on Wed, 12 Jul 2000 02:28:58 -0400, Nico Zigouras
<zigouras@mail.med.upenn.edu> says...
> You have to quote it in the form, like:
>
> print "<input..... value=\"$user_name\">";
> <input..... value="Joe Smith">
You and others would benefit from using alternate quotes instead of all
those ugly backslashes.
print qq(<input..... value="$user_name">);
Same number of keystrokes, so it doesn't even lose at Golf.
> More of a CGI question, but whatever...
More of an HTML question, but whatever...
<Jeopardectomy>
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Date: 12 Jul 2000 19:22:22 GMT
From: The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com>
Subject: (no, a BAD MOVE) Re: A superb opportunity!
Message-Id: <8kighe$6b7$3@216.155.32.201>
In article <584f42c6.6@news2.tm.net.my>, gxyt@pvunakrl.org wrote:
| remove: <584f42c6.6@news2.tm.net.my>
|
| What if you could reach a world-wide audience in an instant? You can
| with PostAgent! Turn your computer into a large scale Usenet news
| posting machine!
|
| Use it to maximize the exposure of you ideas or products on the news
| groups!
|
| PLEASE VISIT: http://members.tripod.com.co/postagnt1
if you want to reach a world wide audience, use the web.
if you want to
MAJORLY PISS OFF AT LEAST 90% OF THE USENET COMMUNITY
and
GET YOUR COMPANY IGNORED and KILLFILED FOR ALL TIME
then use this product.
(as evidence, consider that the original poster of this article wasn't even
willing to use a real e-mail address either. "gxyt@pvunakrl.org"? get real. ;)
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Date: 12 Jul 2000 19:15:51 GMT
From: The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: <newbie>How to determine current location (pwd) in CGIscript?</newbie>
Message-Id: <8kig57$6b7$2@216.155.32.201>
In article <FxJyDo.83C@news.boeing.com>, "Jeff Susanj"
<jeffrey.l.susanj@boeing.com> wrote:
| This "Jeopardy Quoting" must be a perl thing because I have never heard
| anyone object to it in any other newsgroup.
no, it's endemic to USENET in general and not perl specific.
I've seen it objected to, and have objected to it myself in many newsgroups over
the years, and yet people still continue to do it (probably served by all the
bad examples of OTHER people erroneously doing it).
It is NOT a 'good thing'.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:08:35 GMT
From: SANFACE Software <sanface@sanface.com>
Subject: ANNOUNCE: epd2svg 0.9
Message-Id: <JD2b5.325$O7.49486@news-east.usenetserver.com>
What's EPD?
EPD is a new encapsulated vectorial graphic format.
We've developed it and put it with GPL License at
http://EPD.sourceforge.net/
The idea is very simple and powerful:
EPD uses the standard PDF (Adobe trademark) graphic syntax.
Every line is only one command.
Every line starting with # is a comment.
The command BBox(x1,y1,x2,y2) will specify the Bounding Box.
This is a simple example
# This is only a test with the new EPD format
BBox(-50.87109,97.4201,668.62891,700.57977)
0.97 g
1 i
-64.1289 549.6731 m
308.6328 97.4201 l
-64.1289 625.8317 l
-64.1289 549.6731 l
h
f
What's SVG?
Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG) is standard under development by W3C
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/
If you need a SVG browser viewer, we suggest you the
Adobe SVG Viewer (plug-in) at
http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/
What's epd2svg?
It's a simple and powerful convert from EPD to SVG.
At the moment, this is a beta with poor ducumentation (only the POD file
inside the epd2svg.pl program)
We think it can work good in every OS already tested with txt2pdf (our
best product)
http://www.sanface.com/txt2pdftesters.html
AIX, SGI, Windows95, Linux, NEXT, NT4, MacOS, Solaris,
OpenVMS/Alpha 7.1, BeOS v 4.5.1, Amiga OS3.1, Acorn-risc RiscOS 3.5,
SCO Unixware 7.0, FreeBSD 4.0, HP-UX 10.20, Digital Unix 4.0D, HP MPE/iX
6.0
Where you can find epd2svg tool?
At http://EPD.sourceforge.net/ and at every CPAN mirror S/SA/SANFACE/
We need your suggestion and your help!
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:36:10 -0700
From: Ron Hill <hillr@ugsolutions.com>
To: merlyn@stonehenge.com
Subject: Re: Anyone have a Free Meta Crawler Script
Message-Id: <396CBA9A.904E0191@ugsolutions.com>
Hi,
I noticed in col 46 you wrote about sending MIME messages. ( Very Helpful)
How about an article about how to parse MIME messages.
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
>
> Well, for the fourth time in four days, I get to plug yet another of
> my already-written columns. Is there anything *left* to write about
> after 102 columns? (Please, if you have an idea, send it to me! I'll
> give credit! Your name in lights! 2.5 columns a month is pretty
> busy!)
>
> Josie - check out
>
> http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/WebTechniques/col42.html
>
> --
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> <merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
> See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:36:33 -0700
From: Ron Hill <hillr@ugsolutions.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone have a Free Meta Crawler Script
Message-Id: <396CBAB1.F16871A0@ugsolutions.com>
Hi,
I noticed in col 46 you wrote about sending MIME messages. ( Very Helpful)
How about an article about how to parse MIME messages.
"Randal L. Schwartz" wrote:
>
> Well, for the fourth time in four days, I get to plug yet another of
> my already-written columns. Is there anything *left* to write about
> after 102 columns? (Please, if you have an idea, send it to me! I'll
> give credit! Your name in lights! 2.5 columns a month is pretty
> busy!)
>
> Josie - check out
>
> http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/WebTechniques/col42.html
>
> --
> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
> <merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
> See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!
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Date: 12 Jul 2000 19:10:46 GMT
From: The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone heard anything about "Aestiva HTML/OS"
Message-Id: <8kifrm$6b7$0@216.155.32.201>
In article <963402406.9143@itz.pp.sci.fi>, Ilmari Karonen
<usenet11150@itz.pp.sci.fi> wrote:
| In article <8kfgqk$tpv$0@216.155.32.201>, The WebDragon wrote:
| >Apparently they are making claims like :
| >> The product eliminates the need for systems
| >> integration tools like Perl, Cold Fusion and ASP.
| >
| >which at face value I highly doubt. :-j
|
| Indeed. I see no trace of the original, so I can't comment on that,
This is the only contact info I've gotten so far, in a forward from one
of my friends who is in the web business.
Phone: 310-328-8122 (9am-5pm PST)
E-mail: newsletterdirect@ambitec.com.ph
Address: Aestiva, LLC. 400 Crenshaw Blvd.,
Torrance, CA, 90503 USA
| but that claim looks like eliminating the rope from waterskiing.
ROFL :D
| Sure, you can do that, if you put the skier in the boat itself, but
| why on earth would you want to? Eliminating any layer between HTML
| and just about anything else is IMHO generally a bad move..
*chuckle*
Anyone else heard anything ?
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:41:16 +0200
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: Anyone heard anything about "Aestiva HTML/OS"
Message-Id: <utlpms410ro03s8dfevfj93ides0em860u@4ax.com>
The WebDragon wrote:
>Apparently they are making claims like :
>
>> The product eliminates the need for systems
>> integration tools like Perl, Cold Fusion and ASP.
>
>which at face value I highly doubt. :-j
From the demo's (and websites), it looks like another PHP / ColdFusion /
HTML::Mason workalike...
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:26:56 GMT
From: p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kid8p$tmi$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <396cab1a$0$1497$44a10c7e@news.net-link.net>,
Jeff Boes <jboes@eoexchange.com> wrote:
> p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> And I was half-convinced that these two were in cahoots, if not the
same
> poster, before this...
I do not know what you MEAN?!?!
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:30:28 GMT
From: p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kidg5$tpp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <8khs43$667$2@netnews.upenn.edu>,
yhlee@mail.med.upenn.edu (Young H Lee) wrote:
>
> In her defense, a lot of the foreigners out there who learn a little
bit
> of english in high school/college/whatever and learn the rest "as
they go
> along" on the internet pick up what they see, which include
slang/haxor (I
> cant say i know exactly what haxor is) speak. I've spoken/written
with
> several koreans and heck, they know more slang than I do.
Namaste, YOUNG LEE! I have been watch CNN to help talk English.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:33:11 GMT
From: p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kidl6$u2e$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <e3apms4blru50dhni91ijm3lkgufaud80a@4ax.com>,
Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be> wrote:
> p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> >Randal [...] makes me nerves.
>
> Ooh, you should be extremely glad Tom Christiansen doesn't post here
any
> more! He even makes *me* nervous.
Tom is a good and not mean man. DONT BE MEAN TO TOM, BART.
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Date: 12 Jul 2000 18:30:07 GMT
From: bmetcalf@nortelnetworks.com (Brandon Metcalf)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kidff$jpr$1@bcrkh13.ca.nortel.com>
yhlee@mail.med.upenn.edu writes:
> : I'll bite, even though this "I don't speak good english" crap is a
> : bit tired. Your usage and grammer are markedly worse in every
> : subsequent post you make. You started out using common slang and
> : mixed case haXor speak, and now you have degraded into some kind of
> : Godzilla movie psuedo-english.
> : ^^^^^^^^
>
> In her defense, a lot of the foreigners out there who learn a little bit
> of english in high school/college/whatever and learn the rest "as they go
> along" on the internet pick up what they see, which include slang/haxor (I
> cant say i know exactly what haxor is) speak. I've spoken/written with
> several koreans and heck, they know more slang than I do.
In her defense, hah! Don't you get it?
Brandon
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:35:09 GMT
From: p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kidor$u4q$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <396CAA2C.97CADBFB@lucent.com>,
Jeff H <jeffahill@lucent.com> wrote:
> Ok, Ganesha, up until now I was with you. But the books that Randall
"had a
> hand in" isn't just any book. It's THE book. After reading
_Learning Perl_, I
NO ITS NOT. RANDAL IS JAIL. MATT IS NICE.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:37:47 GMT
From: p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kidto$u6h$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <396C9913.12E6C583@bar.va>,
mnatoni@rumbanet.it wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, your request is off-topic in this newsgroup... :)
NO ITS NOT. I BEEN NICE TO NOW ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:36:32 GMT
From: p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kidrd$u5v$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <963415501.7966@itz.pp.sci.fi>,
Ilmari Karonen <usenet11150@itz.pp.sci.fi> wrote:
>
> Well, that's hardly unreasonable. Let us all grant him this small
favor.
>
I AM A WOMAN. BE NICE.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:49:57 -0400
From: Drew Simonis <care227@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <396CBDD5.F5CAF263@attglobal.net>
Young H Lee wrote:
>
> In her defense, a lot of the foreigners out there who learn a little bit
> of english in high school/college/whatever and learn the rest "as they go
> along" on the internet pick up what they see, which include slang/haxor (I
> cant say i know exactly what haxor is) speak. I've spoken/written with
> several koreans and heck, they know more slang than I do.
Her style started like:
Ive been reading this board for awhile and Im very disaponted with the
atitudes and acts of many of the so-called "PERL elites". When a
person comes to this board and asks for help do they get it NO!!!!!!!!
Notice the not-so-subtle differences between that and following
posts?
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:41:56 +0200
From: Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <3fipms06u30haoudv80dpstsgpmtnocn4t@4ax.com>
p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
>DONT BE MEAN TO TOM, BART.
Gee, then I don't see how you can make a problem of Abigail.
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:15:35 -0500
From: Michael Carman <mjcarman@home.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <396CC3D7.A8126890@home.com>
Drew Simonis wrote:
>
> Her style started like:
>
> Ive been reading this board for awhile and Im very disaponted with the
> atitudes and acts of many of the so-called "PERL elites". When a
> person comes to this board and asks for help do they get it NO!!!!!!!!
>
> Notice the not-so-subtle differences between that and following
> posts?
Vividly. Do you suppose that this degredation of lingual skills will
continue until her posts consist only of "UG KOO BLAAA"?
-mjc
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Date: 12 Jul 2000 20:15:37 GMT
From: The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kijl9$6b7$6@216.155.32.201>
In article <8khv9d$if9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
| > finally, your nickname is kewltawk and foolish. you are not a
| > perlcoder and shouldnt claim it no matter how you encode it.
I have generally found that the ones who most often use the 3l337 spellingz were
the ones least likely to be so.
| How do you know I dont know how to write Perl program? QUIT BEING
| MEAN. YOUR STALKING ME!
are you SURE they aren't in cahoots? (:
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:09:43 GMT
From: Steven Merritt <smerr612@mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kij9n$2gb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <8kht3l$h55$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <8kgs8e$f7k$1@bcrkh13.ca.nortel.com>,
> bmetcalf@nortelnetworks.com wrote:
> > care227@attglobal.net writes:
> >
> > > Godzilla movie psuedo-english.
> > ^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Bingo!!!! Didn't take too long to spot.
>
> I dont know what you mean but I think your being mean to ME!!!
Thank you for being hateful.
Steven
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Date: 12 Jul 2000 20:21:48 GMT
From: The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kik0s$6b7$7@216.155.32.201>
In article <8khs43$667$2@netnews.upenn.edu>, yhlee@mail.med.upenn.edu (Young H
Lee) wrote:
| Don't
| insult the poster's ability to read the faq and say "perldoc this or that."
on the contrary, I've found that on the few occasions when I've been referred to
the *correct* perldoc and given one or two pushes towards wherein those docs to
look for my answers, I've had over time, less and less trouble figuring out what
I needed to do on my own (like complex dereferencing of hashes of hashes of
lists, for example)
[regexes still churn my tummy though, so I continue to ask about them until I
can understand them better by following the examples and assistance of those who
DO know better in resolving the problems I've posted here in the past.] :)
Generally I've found that when you HAVE read the docs enough to post an
INTELLIGENT question instead of begging for everyone to solve problems
willy-nilly, you get more constructive replies.
This is not specific to the perl community either, but is endemic to usenet in
general :D
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Date: 12 Jul 2000 20:25:01 GMT
From: The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kik6t$6b7$9@216.155.32.201>
In article <8khvbo$ifo$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
| In article <396C435E.5A999DAC@bar.va>,
| mnatoni@rumbanet.it wrote:
| >
| > UseNet is free: Ideas you can get here and in other newsgroups are
| > (use)net earnings, if no one gives an answer to your questions, you
| have
| > lost nothing other but few seconds of your time.
|
| I never asked anything from comp.lang.perl.misc except for you to stop
| being MEAN.
stop whining like an adolescent and post more intelligently, and you'll notice a
marked difference in replies to your postings. :>
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:18:18 GMT
From: Steven Merritt <smerr612@mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kijpn$2v6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <8kidl6$u2e$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <e3apms4blru50dhni91ijm3lkgufaud80a@4ax.com>,
> Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be> wrote:
> > p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > >Randal [...] makes me nerves.
> >
> > Ooh, you should be extremely glad Tom Christiansen doesn't post here
> any
> > more! He even makes *me* nervous.
>
> Tom is a good and not mean man. DONT BE MEAN TO TOM, BART.
>
> --
> Ganesha, p3rlc0dr and WEB MISTRESS
> Guestbooks, hit counters, shopping carts: Get Matt's Script Archive
Ye Gods! I'd love to see Tom's reply to this. I'd absolutely freaking
love it. A Christiansen smackdown is greatly in order here.
Steven
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Date: 12 Jul 00 21:12:26 GMT
From: stoneje@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Stone Jeremiah Ethan)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <stoneje.963436346@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com writes:
>Ganesha, p3rlc0dr and WEB MISTRESS
~~~~~~~
What is a Ganesha anyway? (Other than a Hindu God of course...)
-Jeremiah
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:58:46 GMT
From: cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <smpqgm4tnd672@corp.supernews.com>
p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
: In article <smo7qdbind659@corp.supernews.com>,
: cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry) wrote:
: > We like to keep this Perl cocktail party pleasant. Causing a scene to
: > drive away those who are problematic is better than allowing them to
: > become a continuing irritation.
:
: Craig your nice. Are you telling that being mean is okay if it keeps
: comp.lang.perl.misc happy?
Yes, in the same way that being mean to criminals is okay if it keeps
society safe from them. Only the minimum necessary level of force should
be applied, and those who "go straight" should then be welcomed into the
community.
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| Craig Berry - http://www.cinenet.net/users/cberry/home.html
--*-- "Beauty and strength, leaping laughter and delicious
| languor, force and fire, are of us." - Liber AL II:20
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:00:32 GMT
From: cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <smpqk0mqnd656@corp.supernews.com>
Tom Briles (sariq@texas.net) wrote:
: Craig Berry wrote:
: > p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
: > : for awhile and Im very disaponted with the
: > : atitudes and acts of many of the so-called "PERL elites".
: >
: > I'm not sure who calls us/them that. Most highly experienced Perlers are
: > rather charmingly self-deprecating.
:
: Much like a number of perlvars!
Ow.
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| Craig Berry - http://www.cinenet.net/users/cberry/home.html
--*-- "Beauty and strength, leaping laughter and delicious
| languor, force and fire, are of us." - Liber AL II:20
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:01:14 GMT
From: cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MACHOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <smpqlatsnd6149@corp.supernews.com>
p3rlc0dr@my-deja.com wrote:
: How do you know I dont know how to write Perl program? QUIT BEING
: MEAN. YOUR STALKING ME!
Okay, I wasn't certain before. Thanks.
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| Craig Berry - http://www.cinenet.net/users/cberry/home.html
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| languor, force and fire, are of us." - Liber AL II:20
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Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:14:29 GMT
From: Steven Merritt <smerr612@mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MEATHEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kijik$2rl$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <396C26CE.ED98BC37@stomp.stomp.tokyo>,
"Godzilla!" <godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo> wrote:
> Well golly gosh gee, aren't you and your friends just the
> pompous self-righteous elitist kings and queens of this
> Mule Manure Mountain.
>
> * brays like an ornery Missouri Mule *
>
> Godzilla!
Thank you for being hateful.
Steven
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Date: 12 Jul 2000 20:23:12 GMT
From: The WebDragon <nospam@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION PERL MEATHEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message-Id: <8kik3g$6b7$8@216.155.32.201>
In article <396C26CE.ED98BC37@stomp.stomp.tokyo>, "Godzilla!"
<godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo> wrote:
| Craig Berry wrote:
| > p3rlc0dr wrote:
|
| > We like to keep this Perl cocktail party pleasant. Causing a
| > scene to drive away those who are problematic is better than
| > allowing them to become a continuing irritation.
|
|
|
| Well golly gosh gee, aren't you and your friends just the
| pompous self-righteous elitist kings and queens of this
| Mule Manure Mountain.
|
|
| * brays like an ornery Missouri Mule *
|
| Godzilla!
Q.E.D.
:->
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