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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 8 May 2000 Volume: 9 Number: 2979
Today's topics:
Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Re: Suggest 'use Carp' to modify the messages of -w <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: Suggest 'use Carp' to modify the messages of -w <iltzu@sci.invalid>
test a single bit with bitwise AND` <hmerrill@my-deja.com>
Re: test a single bit with bitwise AND` <aqumsieh@hyperchip.com>
Re: test a single bit with bitwise AND` (Bart Lateur)
Re: test a single bit with bitwise AND` <billy@arnis-bsl.com>
trouble with a conversion troylachinski@my-deja.com
Re: trouble with a conversion <hmerrill@my-deja.com>
Re: trouble with a conversion nobull@mail.com
Re: trouble with a conversion <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
UnixODBC - DBD::ODBC not connecting when run from brows <hellbunnie@irelands-web.ie>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:23:06 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <shdmuqkv5uh54@corp.supernews.com>
Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 01 May 2000 16:27:56 GMT and ending at
08 May 2000 16:31:31 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" email address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 2000 Greg Bacon.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Excluded Posters
================
perlfaq-suggestions\@(?:.*\.)?perl\.com
Totals
======
Posters: 486
Articles: 1610 (709 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 440
Volume generated: 2734.3 kb
- headers: 1290.8 kb (25,728 lines)
- bodies: 1354.8 kb (46,394 lines)
- original: 854.8 kb (32,379 lines)
- signatures: 87.1 kb (2,289 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.631
Averages
========
Posts per poster: 3.3
median: 1.0 post
mode: 1 post - 287 posters
s: 8.8 posts
Posts per thread: 3.7
median: 3.0 posts
mode: 2 posts - 100 threads
s: 3.5 posts
Message size: 1739.1 bytes
- header: 821.0 bytes (16.0 lines)
- body: 861.7 bytes (28.8 lines)
- original: 543.7 bytes (20.1 lines)
- signature: 55.4 bytes (1.4 lines)
Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------
134 234.2 (130.9/ 87.4/ 56.6) Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@redcat.com>
92 171.4 ( 59.5/101.3/ 55.0) Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
50 86.3 ( 29.3/ 50.1/ 31.8) Tad McClellan <tadmc@metronet.com>
45 68.1 ( 37.1/ 30.6/ 18.5) Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
40 79.1 ( 38.2/ 40.2/ 17.2) Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
37 58.9 ( 28.1/ 30.6/ 18.4) Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>
35 88.0 ( 25.8/ 52.5/ 50.7) The WebDragon <nospam@devnull.com>
28 41.7 ( 19.8/ 21.9/ 9.4) Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
26 39.7 ( 19.3/ 18.4/ 11.3) nobull@mail.com
19 28.9 ( 14.4/ 14.4/ 6.2) Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@hyperchip.com>
These posters accounted for 31.4% of all articles.
Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
234.2 (130.9/ 87.4/ 56.6) 134 Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@redcat.com>
171.4 ( 59.5/101.3/ 55.0) 92 Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
88.0 ( 25.8/ 52.5/ 50.7) 35 The WebDragon <nospam@devnull.com>
86.3 ( 29.3/ 50.1/ 31.8) 50 Tad McClellan <tadmc@metronet.com>
79.1 ( 38.2/ 40.2/ 17.2) 40 Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
68.1 ( 37.1/ 30.6/ 18.5) 45 Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
58.9 ( 28.1/ 30.6/ 18.4) 37 Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>
41.7 ( 19.8/ 21.9/ 9.4) 28 Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
39.7 ( 19.3/ 18.4/ 11.3) 26 nobull@mail.com
34.1 ( 13.1/ 20.9/ 15.4) 16 "Godzilla!" <godzilla@stomp.stomp.tokyo>
These posters accounted for 33.0% of the total volume.
Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
1.000 ( 4.3 / 4.3) 5 scott@industrial-linux.org
1.000 ( 4.1 / 4.1) 7 "spurcell" <skpurcell@hotmail.com>
1.000 ( 1.7 / 1.7) 8 "Michael Schlueter" <michael.schlueter@philips.com>
0.996 ( 4.2 / 4.2) 5 "John" <KidRockYou@yahoo.com>
0.966 ( 50.7 / 52.5) 35 The WebDragon <nospam@devnull.com>
0.840 ( 7.0 / 8.3) 8 "John Lin" <johnlin@chttl.com.tw>
0.828 ( 3.1 / 3.8) 7 Samay <samay1NOsaSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid>
0.824 ( 4.4 / 5.4) 6 ammar_aganovic@my-deja.com
0.798 ( 3.6 / 4.5) 6 "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
0.742 ( 3.1 / 4.1) 5 Francis Litterio <franl-removethis@world.omitthis.std.com>
Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.435 ( 1.0 / 2.4) 8 Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
0.430 ( 9.4 / 21.9) 28 Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
0.428 ( 6.2 / 14.4) 19 Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@hyperchip.com>
0.427 ( 17.2 / 40.2) 40 Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
0.418 ( 3.4 / 8.2) 14 "Lauren Smith" <lauren_smith13@hotmail.com>
0.414 ( 6.0 / 14.5) 10 Dan Burch <dburch@teleport.com>
0.351 ( 1.6 / 4.6) 7 phill@modulus.com.au
0.340 ( 4.6 / 13.6) 14 brian d foy <brian@smithrenaud.com>
0.308 ( 3.1 / 10.2) 17 Tom Briles <sariq@texas.net>
0.227 ( 1.1 / 5.0) 5 "Tintin" <you.will.always.find.him.in.the.kitchen@parties>
62 posters (12%) had at least five posts.
Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================
Posts Subject
----- -------
30 CGI and Radio buttons
28 Reading and Writing to a file
24 if file already exists then remove...
20 Parse a String
18 Problem with $ sign in string
17 getting started with perl on unix
17 problem with "system" and file copy
17 beginner: read in variable
15 [RegExp] Matching UPPERCASE words ...
14 CGI.pm and -w
These threads accounted for 12.4% of all articles.
Top 10 Threads by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------
69.3 ( 29.9/ 37.9/ 19.9) 30 CGI and Radio buttons
55.0 ( 20.9/ 32.3/ 17.3) 28 Reading and Writing to a file
41.0 ( 21.7/ 18.3/ 9.8) 24 if file already exists then remove...
35.9 ( 14.6/ 20.3/ 11.1) 18 Problem with $ sign in string
33.5 ( 8.9/ 22.5/ 17.1) 11 converting input to <p></p> pairs via perl
33.0 ( 10.5/ 22.1/ 12.3) 11 Clear and then Reuse a package name space
31.4 ( 14.3/ 16.1/ 10.2) 17 problem with "system" and file copy
31.3 ( 13.8/ 17.1/ 9.5) 17 beginner: read in variable
30.1 ( 17.0/ 12.2/ 6.2) 20 Parse a String
25.7 ( 12.0/ 13.0/ 6.2) 14 CGI.pm and -w
These threads accounted for 14.1% of the total volume.
Top 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
1.000 ( 4.3/ 4.3) 5 XML::RSSLite sample program
0.922 ( 7.3/ 7.9) 6 sorting hashes by value rather than by key in a foreach loop
0.874 ( 6.7/ 7.6) 8 more CGI.pm questions .. tables with nested foreach loops .. how?
0.837 ( 2.2/ 2.7) 5 tricking the regex syntax
0.837 ( 3.0/ 3.6) 5 Perl & Excel
0.790 ( 4.4/ 5.6) 5 tesxtarea input to <p>paragraph</p> format -- how?
0.770 ( 1.7/ 2.2) 5 displaying Images
0.759 ( 17.1/ 22.5) 11 converting input to <p></p> pairs via perl
0.746 ( 4.2/ 5.6) 6 Why are files required to return true values?
0.745 ( 3.6/ 4.8) 6 Function to filter HTML?
Bottom 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.453 ( 1.5 / 3.3) 6 Super-Simple newbie question
0.451 ( 2.1 / 4.6) 7 Q: search/replace and pattern matching
0.451 ( 2.1 / 4.6) 8 More CPerl-mode problems under NT
0.440 ( 2.4 / 5.4) 9 reg expressions assistance
0.404 ( 2.2 / 5.4) 6 VMS Perl system() truncating lines
0.396 ( 1.4 / 3.5) 5 Stored Cookie
0.363 ( 2.9 / 8.1) 5 perl in NT .BAT files Question
0.350 ( 2.6 / 7.5) 9 Javascript call Perl CGI
0.348 ( 1.5 / 4.4) 8 Figured it out.
0.298 ( 2.5 / 8.4) 6 is there sendmail on Win32 platform
96 threads (21%) had at least five posts.
Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
=============================
Articles Newsgroup
-------- ---------
34 comp.lang.perl.modules
28 alt.perl
15 de.comp.lang.perl.cgi
14 de.comm.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi
10 comp.lang.perl.moderated
9 microsoft.public.inetserver.asp.general
9 comp.lang.perl
7 comp.lang.java.help
7 comp.unix.shell
7 comp.lang.java.databases
Top 10 Crossposters
===================
Articles Address
-------- -------
18 "Chello" <stephane@siw.ch>
9 ammar_aganovic@my-deja.com
8 sjlen@ndirect.co.uk
6 Craig Berry <cberry@cinenet.net>
6 Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>
6 Tony L. Svanstrom <tony@svanstrom.com>
6 Carey bingham <carey_bingham@TransCanada.com>
5 Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
5 Tye McQueen <tye@metronet.com>
5 scott@industrial-linux.org
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 13:33:07 GMT
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Suggest 'use Carp' to modify the messages of -w
Message-Id: <nmzR4.620$Kc1.47964@news.dircon.co.uk>
On Mon, 8 May 2000 10:57:37 +0800, John Lin Wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> With -w active, when our programs are not mature enough,
> we often see warning messages like this:
>
> Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.)
> at C:/Perl/lib/CGI.pm line 950.
>
> This kind of messages often give me the first impression:
> 'Oh, this module does not carefully deal with "-w"',
> although eventually I will find the bug is actually in my own code.
>
> Besides, it doesn't provide useful enough information for us to catch
> the bug at the first spot. Although later we can 'use diagnostics',
> the bug might be difficult to reproduce by then.
>
> Just like 'Carp::carp' improves the messages of 'warn',
> I suggest 'use Carp' modify the "-w" messages to be like:
>
> Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.)
> at C:/Perl/lib/CGI.pm line 950, called at main.pl line 15.
>
> (1) It suggests the bug might be from your own code, not the module.
> (2) You know where to begin with debugging (main.pl line 15).
>
> What do you think about that?
>
I am sure if you supply the patch it will be carefully considered ;-}
/J\
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Date: 8 May 2000 14:24:09 GMT
From: Ilmari Karonen <iltzu@sci.invalid>
Subject: Re: Suggest 'use Carp' to modify the messages of -w
Message-Id: <957795767.23343@itz.pp.sci.fi>
In article <8f5age$g2h@netnews.hinet.net>, John Lin wrote:
>I suggest 'use Carp' modify the "-w" messages to be like:
>
>Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.)
>at C:/Perl/lib/CGI.pm line 950, called at main.pl line 15.
Have you tried "use Carp qw/verbose/"?
--
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
Please ignore Godzilla and its pseudonyms - do not feed the troll.
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:26:15 GMT
From: Hardy Merrill <hmerrill@my-deja.com>
Subject: test a single bit with bitwise AND`
Message-Id: <8f6ipk$6vu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
How do I test to see if a single bit is turned on (1) in a hex string ?
In the example below, the bit in $mask 0x0040 is on in $value 0x00F4
$value = 0x00F4;
$mask = 0x0040;
The bit is not on in this next example.
$value = 0x0F04;
$mask = 0x0040;
I wish to execute some code based on the decision, but not change the
original value.
--
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Mission Critical Linux
http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
978-446-9166
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:09:16 GMT
From: Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@hyperchip.com>
Subject: Re: test a single bit with bitwise AND`
Message-Id: <7awvl584f7.fsf@Merlin.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-shoot-me>
Hardy Merrill <hmerrill@my-deja.com> writes:
> How do I test to see if a single bit is turned on (1) in a hex string ?
>
> In the example below, the bit in $mask 0x0040 is on in $value 0x00F4
>
> $value = 0x00F4;
> $mask = 0x0040;
>
> The bit is not on in this next example.
>
> $value = 0x0F04;
> $mask = 0x0040;
>
> I wish to execute some code based on the decision, but not change the
> original value.
% perl -wl
$value = 0x00F4;
$mask = 0x0040;
print "1" if $value & $mask;
$value = 0x0F04;
$mask = 0x0040;
print "2" if $value & $mask;
__END__
1
--Ala
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 15:30:21 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: test a single bit with bitwise AND`
Message-Id: <391cdd5b.28413855@news.skynet.be>
Hardy Merrill wrote:
>How do I test to see if a single bit is turned on (1) in a hex string ?
>
>In the example below, the bit in $mask 0x0040 is on in $value 0x00F4
>
>$value = 0x00F4;
>$mask = 0x0040;
>
>The bit is not on in this next example.
>
>$value = 0x0F04;
>$mask = 0x0040;
Use "&" as the operator. Careful: at least one of the arguments must be
a number. If both are strings, "&" will behave differently.
--
Bart.
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:45:14 GMT
From: Ilja <billy@arnis-bsl.com>
Subject: Re: test a single bit with bitwise AND`
Message-Id: <8f6qul$gph$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <8f6ipk$6vu$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Hardy Merrill <hmerrill@my-deja.com> wrote:
> How do I test to see if a single bit is turned on (1) in a hex
string ?
>
> In the example below, the bit in $mask 0x0040 is on in $value 0x00F4
>
> $value = 0x00F4;
> $mask = 0x0040;
>
> The bit is not on in this next example.
>
> $value = 0x0F04;
> $mask = 0x0040;
>
> I wish to execute some code based on the decision, but not change the
> original value.
>
Why not to use '&' operator (and other bitwise operators) ?
See your local 'perldoc perlop' or consult, say,
http://www.cpan.org/doc/manual/html/pod/perlop.html
for more details.
Ilja.
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:00:52 GMT
From: troylachinski@my-deja.com
Subject: trouble with a conversion
Message-Id: <8f6ob9$dt4$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I am converting a comma delimited file to a fixed length file. At the
end of each record I need to add a carriage return (HEX 0D = "\x0d"?)
and then a line feed (HEX 0A = "\x0a"?). When I add these the record
gets an extra byte.
Here is a snippet:
$converted = join('', ,$plu_number,$plu_descriptor,"\x0d","\x0a");
print NEW "$converted";
I looked through the last 1200 posts and the FAQ and found nothing.
I think I am doing this completely wrong but don't know where to
start. Thanks in advance for a point in the right direction.
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 16:45:28 GMT
From: Hardy Merrill <hmerrill@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: trouble with a conversion
Message-Id: <8f6qv2$gpl$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <8f6ob9$dt4$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
troylachinski@my-deja.com wrote:
> I am converting a comma delimited file to a fixed length file. At the
> end of each record I need to add a carriage return (HEX 0D = "\x0d"?)
> and then a line feed (HEX 0A = "\x0a"?). When I add these the record
> gets an extra byte.
>
> Here is a snippet:
>
> $converted = join('', ,$plu_number,$plu_descriptor,"\x0d","\x0a");
> print NEW "$converted";
>
> I looked through the last 1200 posts and the FAQ and found nothing.
>
> I think I am doing this completely wrong but don't know where to
> start. Thanks in advance for a point in the right direction.
Looks to me like everything is fine - but the Newline, and the Carriage
Return each take a byte, so plan your output records with that in mind.
If your fixed length record is 60 bytes, and your are going to add a
CR/LF, then your record length will be 62 bytes.
Hope this helps.
--
Hardy Merrill
Mission Critical Linux
http://www.missioncriticallinux.com
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Date: 08 May 2000 17:59:19 +0100
From: nobull@mail.com
Subject: Re: trouble with a conversion
Message-Id: <u9aei1geqg.fsf@wcl-l.bham.ac.uk>
troylachinski@my-deja.com writes:
> I am converting a comma delimited file to a fixed length file. At the
> end of each record I need to add a carriage return (HEX 0D = "\x0d"?)
> and then a line feed (HEX 0A = "\x0a"?). When I add these the record
> gets an extra byte.
Did you forget to use binmode() where you needed it?
Or rather did you forget that you haven't used binmode() in a
context where you didn't want it?
> Here is a snippet:
>
> $converted = join('', ,$plu_number,$plu_descriptor,"\x0d","\x0a");
> print NEW "$converted";
>
> I looked through the last 1200 posts and the FAQ and found nothing.
>
> I think I am doing this completely wrong but don't know where to
> start.
Depends what you mean by "completely". If what you are doing works
then it can't be completely wrong.
It could be more efficiently written as:
print NEW "$plu_number$plu_descriptor\x0d\x0a";
--
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. _\\__[oo
.__/ \\ /\@
. l___\\
# ll l\\
###LL LL\\
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Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 19:23:36 +0200
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: trouble with a conversion
Message-Id: <Pine.GHP.4.21.0005081922310.3709-100000@hpplus01.cern.ch>
On 8 May 2000 nobull@mail.com wrote:
> Or rather did you forget that you haven't used binmode() in a
> context where you didn't want it?
Gosh, I'm no longer sure which way is "up" after that ;-))
(I'm sure you're right, though)
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 17:09:34 GMT
From: Kathryn Cassidy <hellbunnie@irelands-web.ie>
Subject: UnixODBC - DBD::ODBC not connecting when run from browser
Message-Id: <3916F3CF.BD4412A3@irelands-web.ie>
Hi there,
I've got a script which connects to an MS Access db on NT from a linux
machine using DBD::ODBC and Easysoft's ODBC-ODBC Bridge. Now when I run
this from the command line it works perfectly with no errors or
warnings. If however, I run it from a browser I get the following
errors in my apache error log:
DBI->connect failed: [unixODBC][Driver Manager]Data source name not
found, and no default driver specified (SQL-IM002)
[unixODBC][Driver Manager]Data source name not found, and no default
driver specified (SQL-IM002)(DBD: db_login/SQLConnect err=-1) at
/usr/local/itg/helpdesk/cgi-bin/getMerchantDetails.pl line 10
[unixODBC][Driver Manager]Data source name not found, and no default
driver specified (SQL-IM002)
[unixODBC][Driver Manager]Data source name not found, and no default
driver specified (SQL-IM002)(DBD: db_login/SQLConnect err=-1) at
/usr/local/itg/helpdesk/cgi-bin/getMerchantDetails.pl line 10.
[Mon May 8 17:55:34 2000] [error] [client 192.168.1.134] Premature end
of script headers: /usr/local/itg/helpdesk/cgi-bin/getMerchantDetails.pl
I assume this is a permissions issue as the webserver runs as nobody.
Does anyone know if unixODBC has problems with user nobody trying to
access a DSN? Does it need to run as a user with a shell or anything
like that? If that's not it then has anyone any other suggestions as to
what could be causing this problem?
Thanks,
Kathryn.
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