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Perl-Users Digest, Issue: 2853 Volume: 9

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Perl-Users Digest           Mon, 24 Apr 2000     Volume: 9 Number: 2853

Today's topics:
    Re: newbie: camel vs. llama <elaine@chaos.wustl.edu>
    Re: newbie: camel vs. llama (ken_i_m)
    Re: newbie: camel vs. llama (Elaine -HFB- Ashton)
    Re: object oriented methodologies <aperrin@famine.DEMOG.Berkeley.EDU>
    Re: Perl Benchmarking <sariq@texas.net>
    Re: perlcc: No dbm on this machine? <calvsung@hotmail.com>
        Running Perl script from a perl script other then requi <adih@valor.com>
    Re: Running Perl script from a perl script other then r nobull@mail.com
        Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
    Re: subname from subref <sariq@texas.net>
    Re: Tab and space <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
    Re: to print a flat data file with a certain lengths ? <koreags@thrunet.com>
    Re: to print a flat data file with a certain lengths ? <jeff@vpservices.com>
    Re: to print a flat data file with a certain lengths ? <lr@hpl.hp.com>
    Re: using CPAN: what's all this junk!? (Elaine -HFB- Ashton)
        Voting script <kuse@transpatent.com>
    Re: Voting script <tmp0001@unixsnedkeren.dk>
    Re: Which book? <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 13:13:37 GMT
From: Elaine Ashton <elaine@chaos.wustl.edu>
Subject: Re: newbie: camel vs. llama
Message-Id: <B529C0FF.2F0A%elaine@chaos.wustl.edu>

in article 8e0v8q$rsp$1@nnrp1.deja.com, octinomos endemoniado at
jesucristo2@netscape.net quoth:
> i heard the camel and llama books were pretty good
> by christiansen...  if so, which one should i start
> with, what's the difference, why is the camel one
> more expensive...  any info appreciated...

One spits, one don't.

The one that spits purports to be 'learnin'' Perl for those new to Perl not
to programming. The one that doesn't spit is a hefty tome for those who are
already familiar.

> jesus christ II

What? The second coming happened and I missed it? damn.

e.




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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:04:29 GMT
From: ken_i_m@linuxstart.com (ken_i_m)
Subject: Re: newbie: camel vs. llama
Message-Id: <39046f8b.4130405@news.mcn.net>


>One spits, one don't.

Camels are known  for spitting

Llamas are known for humming when content.

I have gotten started with Perl in just the last couple of weeks
myself. I bought both. The llama book is the introductory one.

I think, therefore, ken_i_m


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Date: 24 Apr 2000 16:42:27 GMT
From: elaine@chaos.wustl.edu (Elaine -HFB- Ashton)
Subject: Re: newbie: camel vs. llama
Message-Id: <slrn8g8ua9.n77.elaine@chaos.wustl.edu>

In article <39046f8b.4130405@news.mcn.net>, ken_i_m wrote:
>
>>One spits, one don't.
>
>Camels are known  for spitting

Hmmm...actually they *all* spit, kick and bite.

http://www.main.com/~effendi/Camels/

I find this amusingly apropos.

e.


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Date: 24 Apr 2000 09:14:44 -0700
From: Andrew Perrin - Demography <aperrin@famine.DEMOG.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: object oriented methodologies
Message-Id: <u5kbt2ztr0r.fsf@famine.DEMOG.Berkeley.EDU>

bsmith@webnetint.com writes:

> That's excellent! Exactly what I'm trying to achieve.  Can you help me
> with this question.
> 

Tell you what - I'll stick the code on the web at
http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin/tips/src/dbobjects.pl.txt and you
can take a look at how I've done it.  The answer to your concern about
multiple copies of the same code is to use inheritance - each type of
record is both its own object class and a superclass called Record;
the Record class does most of the work, tweaked by each individual
object class.

Hope this helps.

Andy Perrin

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http://demog.berkeley.edu/~aperrin --------------------------SEIU1199


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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:02:45 -0500
From: Tom Briles <sariq@texas.net>
Subject: Re: Perl Benchmarking
Message-Id: <39046215.5D44DA0C@texas.net>

Josh wrote:
> 
> I have recently written quite an extensive CGI script in PERL. I would like
> to know how I would go about benchmarking such a script,

perldoc -q profile

> and what would be
> considered the normal range(?) for three-thousand some odd lines of code?

That question makes no sense.  The number of lines in a program has
nothing (well, *very* little) to do with how long it takes to run.

- Tom


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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:49:28 +0800
From: "Calvin" <calvsung@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: perlcc: No dbm on this machine?
Message-Id: <8e1mo0$mq5$1@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk>

> Stop trying to compile your Perl source. Cheers!

Oh, sorry. Why shouldn't we compile the perl? Would anyone explain more on
this issue?

Best regards,
Calvin




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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:19:38 +0200
From: "Adi Hoder" <adih@valor.com>
Subject: Running Perl script from a perl script other then require?
Message-Id: <39048259$1@news.barak.net.il>

Hi,

Having a problem to operate Perl script from a perl script with require?
Do you have other solutions,





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Date: 24 Apr 2000 18:39:11 +0100
From: nobull@mail.com
Subject: Re: Running Perl script from a perl script other then require?
Message-Id: <u9hfcrmm9s.fsf@wcl-l.bham.ac.uk>

"Adi Hoder" <adih@valor.com> writes:

> Having a problem to operate Perl script from a perl script with require?
> Do you have other solutions,

No, but my car won't start.  Got any ideas how to fix it?

(Hint: show us what you do, tell us what you expect to happen, show
(or tell) us what actually happens, tell us what you've already
ruled-out as a cause and show us why).

Shot in the dark: perhaps the script you are calling was not written
to be called via require.


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Date: 24 Apr 2000 13:41:27 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <8e1iu7$a30$1@info2.uah.edu>

Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 17 Apr 2000 13:36:50 GMT and ending at
24 Apr 2000 06:53:58 GMT.

Notes
=====

    - A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
      does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
    - All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
      considered to be the author's signature.
    - The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
      in determining the "real" email address and name.
    - Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
      volume to the total body volume.
    - Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
      <URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
    - Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
    - Copyright (c) 2000 Greg Bacon.
      Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
      alteration is not permitted.  Redistribution and/or use for any
      commercial purpose is prohibited.

Excluded Posters
================

perlfaq-suggestions\@(?:.*\.)?perl\.com

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Threads:  428
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    - original:   841.7 kb (30,643 lines)
    - signatures: 69.6 kb (1,870 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.618

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    - original:   538.3 bytes (19.1 lines)
    - signature:  44.5 bytes (1.2 lines)

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   82   136.2 ( 51.6/ 75.3/ 40.7)  Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
   68   112.7 ( 65.5/ 39.2/ 25.8)  Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@redcat.com>
   56    84.5 ( 46.7/ 37.4/ 24.4)  Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
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   41    62.6 ( 30.4/ 28.3/ 15.9)  nobull@mail.com
   36    52.4 ( 27.9/ 24.4/ 13.6)  "Lauren Smith" <lauren_smith13@hotmail.com>
   30    38.8 ( 21.1/ 17.7/  6.3)  Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
   20    32.1 ( 18.3/ 13.8/  6.6)  "Tjerk Meesters" <nijntje@bikkels.dhs.org>
   19    30.8 ( 15.6/ 15.2/  6.0)  Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@hyperchip.com>

These posters accounted for 31.9% of all articles.

Top 10 Posters by Volume
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  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Address
--------------------------  -----  -------

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 136.2 ( 51.6/ 75.3/ 40.7)     82  Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
 112.7 ( 65.5/ 39.2/ 25.8)     68  Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@redcat.com>
  84.5 ( 46.7/ 37.4/ 24.4)     56  Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be>
  62.7 ( 39.3/ 23.4/ 15.1)     44  Elaine Ashton <elaine@chaos.wustl.edu>
  62.6 ( 30.4/ 28.3/ 15.9)     41  nobull@mail.com
  52.4 ( 27.9/ 24.4/ 13.6)     36  "Lauren Smith" <lauren_smith13@hotmail.com>
  38.8 ( 21.1/ 17.7/  6.3)     30  Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
  36.3 ( 12.9/ 17.6/  9.4)     17  Andrew Perrin - Demography <aperrin@davis.DEMOG.Berkeley.EDU>
  32.4 ( 15.3/ 15.8/  7.7)     17  Jonathan.L.Ericson@jpl.nasa.gov

These posters accounted for 30.4% of the total volume.

Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
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-----  --------------  -----  -------

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0.852  (  5.5 /  6.5)      6  "Veronica Adams" <adams1015@worldnet.att.net>
0.807  (  4.0 /  5.0)      5  c_neak@my-deja.com
0.804  (  8.8 / 11.0)     11  "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
0.800  (  3.2 /  4.0)      5  Raoul Duke <raoul@mobopro.com>
0.721  (  1.1 /  1.6)      5  prakash_ojha@my-deja.com
0.700  (  3.1 /  4.4)      5  Neil Kandalgaonkar <nj_kanda@alcor.concordia.ca>
0.698  (  4.3 /  6.2)      7  Clinton A. Pierce <clintp@geeksalad.org>
0.668  (  5.4 /  8.0)     11  Joe Smith <inwap@best.com>
0.665  ( 13.0 / 19.5)     17  Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>

Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
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-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.397  (  6.0 / 15.2)     19  Ala Qumsieh <aqumsieh@hyperchip.com>
0.383  (  3.8 /  9.8)      7  "Dan" <rammer@moraldecay.com>
0.355  (  6.3 / 17.7)     30  Tony Curtis <tony_curtis32@yahoo.com>
0.353  (  1.0 /  2.9)      7  Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen <tmp0001@unixsnedkeren.dk>
0.349  (  1.3 /  3.6)      7  "Tintin" <you.will.always.find.him.in.the.kitchen@parties>
0.344  (  4.4 / 12.8)     13  Brad Baxter <bmb@ginger.libs.uga.edu>
0.332  (  2.0 /  5.9)     11  Tom Briles <sariq@texas.net>
0.318  (  1.3 /  4.2)      5  "Felrodian" <raptor22@tampabay.rr.com>
0.297  (  1.8 /  6.0)      6  stephen <schan_ca@geocities.com>
0.275  (  1.1 /  4.2)      6  mkeith <mkeith@ix.netcom.com>

59 posters (12%) had at least five posts.

Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================

Posts  Subject
-----  -------

   33  Random [a-z0-9] possible?
   21  How can I delay "use"ing a module until the module is needed?
   20  troubleshooting 101
   18  how can I put a space in-between-the-email address
   16  Quick Reference Book recommendations needed
   15  What's the meaning of "my Foo $x"?
   15  Rounding a number...
   14  Better way to do this ? ( beginner )
   12  Converting HTML hex characters to characters
   12  Hide password in cgi script

These threads accounted for 11.0% of all articles.

Top 10 Threads by Volume
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  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Subject
--------------------------  -----  -------

  53.5 ( 28.8/ 21.7/ 11.1)     33  Random [a-z0-9] possible?
  42.7 ( 19.6/ 22.5/ 12.1)     15  Rounding a number...
  42.4 ( 18.1/ 21.6/ 11.8)     21  How can I delay "use"ing a module until the module is needed?
  30.1 ( 16.2/ 12.3/  6.9)     20  troubleshooting 101
  27.3 (  3.0/ 24.3/ 11.6)      4  ISA not supported
  27.2 ( 15.0/ 11.6/  6.1)     18  how can I put a space in-between-the-email address
  27.2 (  9.1/ 17.8/  8.7)     10  Multideminsion array help ?
  26.4 (  9.1/ 16.7/ 13.0)     12  Good Techniques and Practices
  25.9 ( 15.4/  9.1/  4.9)     16  Quick Reference Book recommendations needed
  24.5 ( 10.9/ 12.9/  8.0)     14  Better way to do this ? ( beginner )

These threads accounted for 12.1% of the total volume.

Top 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Subject
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.911  (  5.8/   6.4)      5  JOB POSTING - Web Developer - SW04ng - (CGI, Perl, ASP, DHTML, ODBC, Linux,Solaris, SQL, Oracle, JSP, IIS, XML)
0.871  (  6.6/   7.6)      5  Perl & Fortran
0.848  (  5.3/   6.3)      5  multidimensional DBM ideas using perl
0.812  (  2.6/   3.2)      5  CGI script prob
0.812  (  3.2/   4.0)      5  DBI module with SQL-Server
0.810  (  2.9/   3.6)      5  call sub from browser
0.808  (  7.9/   9.8)      5  Request For Comments on perl prog by programmer
0.804  (  7.8/   9.7)     11  PUNY Perl Sig, Tue Apr 25th @ IBM, NYC
0.801  (  2.4/   3.0)      7  Why does this still pause?
0.781  (  2.6/   3.4)      5  Simple function argument question

Bottom 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Subject
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.471  (  3.0 /  6.5)      7  locks on berkley DB file.
0.465  (  2.8 /  6.0)      9  GET
0.464  (  4.5 /  9.7)     12  Converting HTML hex characters to characters
0.456  (  2.5 /  5.6)      8  please explain this
0.452  (  2.6 /  5.7)      7  string problem with  ~ /$searchtext/
0.450  (  1.4 /  3.2)      5  Extracting part of a string
0.435  (  3.6 /  8.2)     12  Hide password in cgi script
0.397  (  1.6 /  4.2)      5  Sockets
0.342  (  1.7 /  4.9)     10  print using?
0.275  (  1.1 /  4.2)      6  ActiveX access

114 threads (26%) had at least five posts.

Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
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Articles  Newsgroup
--------  ---------

      27  alt.perl
      20  comp.lang.perl.modules
      11  comp.sys.palmtops.pilot
      10  comp.unix.programmer
       9  de.comp.lang.perl.cgi
       7  comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips
       7  comp.os.linux.misc
       7  comp.compression
       7  de.comp.os.unix.linux.hardware
       5  comp.lang.perl

Top 10 Crossposters
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Articles  Address
--------  -------

      10  David H. Adler <dha@panix.com>
       8  Andreas Vierengel <andreas@vierengel.de>
       8  "Kerry Garnier-Wells" <kerryg@idirect.ca>
       5  "Brian A. Sayrs" <sayrs@southwindsolutions.com>
       4  Jan Panteltje <jan@panteltje.demon.nl>
       4  Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
       4  J Alan Jackson <jaj39@student.canterbury.ac.nz>
       4  Matthias Meixner <meixner@rbg.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>
       4  schwenke@job.de
       4  "Chello" <stephane@siw.ch>


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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:14:10 -0500
From: Tom Briles <sariq@texas.net>
Subject: Re: subname from subref
Message-Id: <390456B2.7E2BC58D@texas.net>

Joe Kazimierczyk wrote:
> 
> nobull@mail.com wrote:
> 
> > Joe Kazimierczyk <joseph.kazimierczyk@bms.com> writes:
> >
> > > Is there a way to get a subroutine's name from it's symbolic reference?
> >
> > Is this a trick question?  A _symbolic_ reference _is_ the name.  Do
> > you perhaps mean _hard_ reference?
> >
> > Start at %main:: and travese down all the symbol tables to find all
> > subroutines then build a hash relating coderef to subroutine names.
> > ...
> 
> Opps!  Not a trick question, just a badly worded one.  Thanks for the code!
> 
> Is there any advantage to using symbolic vs hard references?

Read:

http://old.plover.com/~mjd/perl/varvarname.html

and then decide.

There *are* legimate reasons for using symbolic references.  You just
have to ensure that you know what you're doing.

- Tom


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Date: 23 Apr 2000 20:47:19 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Tab and space
Message-Id: <8dvk07$uai$1@orpheus.gellyfish.com>

On Mon, 24 Apr 2000 00:26:48 +0800 Amai Ng wrote:
> "Amai Ng" <amai@pacific.net.sg> wrote in message
> news:8dv18q$1hs$1@newton.pacific.net.sg...
> Hi,
> 
> I am not very sure about Perl and Unix, just need to know if a 'Tab' is just
> more white space, or itself is another character?
> 
> I need to cut a line of columns, where the delim can be either 'Tab' or
> space.... so I am trying to find a way to detect which is which at the point
> of running the script.
> 
> 
> thanks for the reply. I would just like to find out, can 'split' work just
> like 'cut' of shell script? I have just learnt shell script, and currently
> is trying to get only 2 columns of data out of a chunk of data from 'ps'. If
> I used 'limit' field of 'split', will it work exactly the same?
> 

You can use split to do this.  Or alternatively you might use unpack() 
where you have fixed width data such as th output from 'ps'.

/J\
-- 
I'm having the best day of my life, and I owe it all to not going
to Church!
-- 
fortune oscar homer


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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:15:38 +0900
From: "Joe" <koreags@thrunet.com>
Subject: Re: to print a flat data file with a certain lengths ?
Message-Id: <CcO4r5er$GA.320@news.thrunet.com>

Thanks jason
>$padded_a1 = $a1 . ( ' ' x (100-length($a1)) );
>$padded_a2 = $a2 . ( ' ' x (100-length($a2)) );
>$padded_a3 = $a3 . ( ' ' x (100-length($a3)) );
>print FILE "$padded_a1|$padded_a2|padded_$a3\n";
>
This works good.
I appreciate for it.

But all values are set to left hand.
How to sort a value to right hand ?

Thanks.









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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:09:52 -0700
From: Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>
Subject: Re: to print a flat data file with a certain lengths ?
Message-Id: <390455B0.171C6919@vpservices.com>

Joe wrote:
> 
> Thanks jason
> >$padded_a1 = $a1 . ( ' ' x (100-length($a1)) );
> >$padded_a2 = $a2 . ( ' ' x (100-length($a2)) );
> >$padded_a3 = $a3 . ( ' ' x (100-length($a3)) );
> >print FILE "$padded_a1|$padded_a2|padded_$a3\n";
> >
> This works good.
> I appreciate for it.
> 
> But all values are set to left hand.
> How to sort a value to right hand ?

Do you *really* mean to tell us that you can not figure that out
yourself with some simple experimentation with what you have already
been shown?  If "$x . $space" puts the space on the right, don't you
think "$space . $x" might put the space on the left? You could also try
reading about the sprintf() function which also does padding.

-- 
Jeff


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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 09:38:59 -0700
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: to print a flat data file with a certain lengths ?
Message-Id: <MPG.136e18748e81da7f98a963@nntp.hpl.hp.com>

In article <9qelt5br$GA.281@news.thrunet.com> on Mon, 24 Apr 2000 
16:32:05 +0900, Joe <koreags@thrunet.com> says...
> I would like to print a flat data file with a certain lengths.
> 
> We guess we try to print the following line.
> print FILE "$a1|$a2|$a3\n";
> The maxlength of each value should be 100 or something else.
> 
> If the real text length of $a1 is smaller than 100, how to I leave the blank
> text space until to be before print |$a2 ?
> I mean it should be printed like the following;
> aaaaaaaa blank spaces|$a2|$a3
> or,
> blank spaces aaaaaaaa|$a2|$a3
> 
> If the length of $a1 is 40, the blank spaces should 60, than starting to
> print nest value.

sprintf "%-60s|%s|%s\n" => $a1, $a2, $a3; # left-adjusted

sprintf  "%60s|%s|%s\n" => $a1, $a2, $a3; # right-adjusted

> If someone know about this, Please direct me.

perldoc -f sprintf

-- 
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com


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Date: 24 Apr 2000 15:54:04 GMT
From: elaine@chaos.wustl.edu (Elaine -HFB- Ashton)
Subject: Re: using CPAN: what's all this junk!?
Message-Id: <slrn8g8rfi.n77.elaine@chaos.wustl.edu>

In article <8e0sac$o17$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, jlamport@calarts.edu wrote:
>I just used CPAN for the first time.  It seems to have worked, but now I
>want to know: what are all of these extra files and directories that got

'perldoc CPAN' should explain how it works quite nicely.

e.


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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:11:42 +0200
From: Leif Kuse <kuse@transpatent.com>
Subject: Voting script
Message-Id: <3904AA7E.4C8543C5@transpatent.com>

Hi,

I need a script for a club, sothat the members can vote over the net.
It needs to recognize, if one member had already voted. Voting via mail
would be best!

Does anybody have some ideas, where I can find one? I do not mean any of
theese stupid webvoting scripts! It needs to  be more secure!

Leif.


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Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:20:44 +0200
From: Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen <tmp0001@unixsnedkeren.dk>
Subject: Re: Voting script
Message-Id: <3904583C.B830B578@unixsnedkeren.dk>

Leif Kuse wrote:

> Does anybody have some ideas, where I can find one? I do not mean any of
> theese stupid webvoting scripts! It needs to  be more secure!

What would you consider secure enough for your needs?

Please consider your answer carefully before replying.

-- 
  Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen               "...plus...Tubular Bells!"
  http://www.mip.sdu.dk/~ravn


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Date: 23 Apr 2000 19:33:50 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Which book?
Message-Id: <8dvfme$u5l$1@orpheus.gellyfish.com>

On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:45:16 GMT mark_g@cyberdude.com wrote:
> In article <39019D38.175D08FE@awod.com>,
>   Michael Hearne <mhearne@awod.com> wrote:
>> mark_g@cyberdude.com wrote:
>>
>> > Which of the O'Reilly Perl books is best for someone who knows a little
>> > bit of Perl programming but wants a more complete knowledge of the
>> > language, "Learning Perl" or "Programming Perl" ?
>> >
>>
>> I haven't used 'Learning Perl' much, but 'Programming Perl' is invaluable,
>> once you basically know the syntax of the language.  I learned Perl by
>> stealing code and thumbing through 'Programming Perl'.  'Advanced Perl
>> Programming' (I think that's the title) is really good, too, once you get
>> to the stage where you want to do any OO stuff, or interfacing with Tk.
>>
>
> I'm getting the impression that "Programming Perl" doesn't cover OOP.
> Is this the case?
> 

You might be right. 'Programming Perl' Discusses the mechanisms by which
Perl supports Object Oriented Programming but doesnt go into any depth
about the application of these mechanisms.  For greater detail you
might want to read Damien Conway's book but I would recommend that you
had read 'Programming Perl' first anyhow.  My touchstone for the
discussion of Object Oriented Programming is infact 'The C++ programming
language' by Bjarne Stroustrup which IMHO takes a pragmatic approach to
the use of this model in the development process - you can ignore the
language specific chapters if you want ;-}

/J\
-- 
I hope I didn't brain my damage.
-- 
fortune oscar homer


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