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Perl-Users Digest Tue, 23 Nov 1999 Volume: 9 Number: 1464
Today's topics:
Re: Mammoth Search Engine Question: GURU'S WANTED (Abigail)
Re: Mammoth Search Engine Question: GURU'S WANTED (Benjamin Franz)
Re: Mammoth Search Engine Question: GURU'S WANTED <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: Mammoth Search Engine Question: GURU'S WANTED (Abigail)
MD5 algorithm ? <lhauta@koti.tpo.fi>
Re: MD5 algorithm ? <gerglery@usa.net>
Re: OT Y2K, was Re: Problematic horizontal scrollbars <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: Refining code <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Re: Simple help <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Simple question (Kent Delcastillo)
Re: Simple question (Abigail)
Re: Simple question <zigouras@mail.med.upenn.edu>
Re: Turing machine (Craig Berry)
Re: Turing machine (Craig Berry)
Re: Undefined error message I can't get rid of. (Tad McClellan)
Re: What is a good book on Perl (David H. Adler)
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 00:46:19 -0600
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Mammoth Search Engine Question: GURU'S WANTED
Message-Id: <slrn83ke81.m2v.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
David Cassell (cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov) wrote on MMCCLXXV September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:383A1A12.1078BE29@mail.cor.epa.gov>:
\\ barrytrot@yahoo.com wrote:
\\ >
\\ > I am trying to design a search engine using
\\ [snip]
\\ > This works fine and returns nearly instantaneous results if the non-
\\ > limited number of rows returned is less than 1000. However, I have 50
\\ > million total keywords and many words match up with 200k+ records.
\\ >
\\ > In these cases, the query can take several minutes (EVEN FROM WITHIN
\\ > MYSQL DIRECTLY, and even if I have only 1 condition rather than or'ing
\\ > 3.).
\\ >
\\ > How do yahoo, et al do it?
Djees, you have an email address at yahoo. Perhaps you should ask
internally.
\\ Well, the part you're not going to like:
\\ They spend a heck of a lot more on hardware and software than
\\ you would ever want to. You can always make the query go
\\ faster on a much faster box with a much faster bus and a
\\ much faster set of hard drives.
I wonder what people makes think to ask *here* for "a search engine
like foobar has". sales@foobar.com is where they should ask.
I'm also quite sad that people are so anxious to copy what has taken
people years to develop. It's even more sad that those people think
it's trivial, and that the details can be explained in one usenet
posting.
Abigail
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 06:23:28 GMT
From: snowhare@long-lake.nihongo.org (Benjamin Franz)
Subject: Re: Mammoth Search Engine Question: GURU'S WANTED
Message-Id: <Apq_3.2055$uf6.49160@typhoon01.swbell.net>
In article <81cqdb$tra$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, <barrytrot@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I am trying to design a search engine using
>
>This works fine and returns nearly instantaneous results if the non-
>limited number of rows returned is less than 1000. However, I have 50
>million total keywords and many words match up with 200k+ records.
>
>In these cases, the query can take several minutes (EVEN FROM WITHIN
>MYSQL DIRECTLY, and even if I have only 1 condition rather than or'ing
>3.).
>
>How do yahoo, et al do it?
With special purpose database engines. Almost certainly not SQL
based.
>Any super-guru's out there who can help point me in the right
>direction, I would appreciate it.
I can't guarantee it will scale to the speed level you want, but
if you don't insist on using SQL, you could try the
'Search::InvertedIndex' module I wrote. It is available from CPAN.
It will at least be substantially faster than what you are doing now.
Another alternative would be GLIMPSE (http://glimpse.cs.arizona.edu/).
--
Benjamin Franz
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 02:01:12 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: Mammoth Search Engine Question: GURU'S WANTED
Message-Id: <x74sedofnr.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "A" == Abigail <abigail@delanet.com> writes:
A> \\ barrytrot@yahoo.com wrote:
A> \\ > How do yahoo, et al do it?
A> Djees, you have an email address at yahoo. Perhaps you should ask
A> internally.
i didn't see a :-) (but with abigail you can never tell) so i have to
ask, do you realize he is probably a free yahoo email user? i just
received email from a yahoo employee at yahoo-inc.com so i bet just
yahoo.com is reserved for free email.
A> I'm also quite sad that people are so anxious to copy what has taken
A> people years to develop. It's even more sad that those people think
A> it's trivial, and that the details can be explained in one usenet
A> posting.
or that they are given a project with absolutely no concept of its
scope. doing any software project is vastly different based on its
size. searching a site and searching the web are very different beasts.
uri
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 03:04:22 -0600
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Mammoth Search Engine Question: GURU'S WANTED
Message-Id: <slrn83kmas.m2v.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Uri Guttman (uri@sysarch.com) wrote on MMCCLXXV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:x74sedofnr.fsf@home.sysarch.com>:
## >>>>> "A" == Abigail <abigail@delanet.com> writes:
##
## i didn't see a :-) (but with abigail you can never tell) so i have to
## ask, do you realize he is probably a free yahoo email user? i just
## received email from a yahoo employee at yahoo-inc.com so i bet just
## yahoo.com is reserved for free email.
Heh, it's not my task to keep track on who's doing free email services.
If someone picks a service knowing that they are going to be confused
with something else because the service they picked already has some
other name (in this case, even be referred to in the posting), then
that's their problem, not mine.
## A> I'm also quite sad that people are so anxious to copy what has taken
## A> people years to develop. It's even more sad that those people think
## A> it's trivial, and that the details can be explained in one usenet
## A> posting.
##
## or that they are given a project with absolutely no concept of its
## scope. doing any software project is vastly different based on its
## size. searching a site and searching the web are very different beasts.
If if they are given the project, the project givers are people too.
If boss/teacher B gives a job/assignment to employee/student E, and
E just asks the group to do its/her job, then E can take the flak it
gets back to B. E in this case is just a carrier for B, not really
that much different from the keyboard itself.
Abigail
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:46:49 -0000
From: "Lassi Hautakangas" <lhauta@koti.tpo.fi>
Subject: MD5 algorithm ?
Message-Id: <81dkak$kil$1@news.koti.tpo.fi>
Does somebody know where one could get the MD5 algorithm which has been made
with PERL language from ?
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 10:20:23 +0000
From: Alternative Fluffy <gerglery@usa.net>
Subject: Re: MD5 algorithm ?
Message-Id: <87iu2twlug.fsf@banet.net>
Lassi Hautakangas <lhauta@koti.tpo.fi> wrote:
> Does somebody know where one could get the MD5 algorithm which has been made
> with PERL language from ?
The MD5 module in CPAN works quite well, but it is written in C and
XS. Do you really need something written all in Perl?
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 10:03:40 GMT
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: OT Y2K, was Re: Problematic horizontal scrollbars
Message-Id: <383a667c_1@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
Dave Eastabrook <news@elmbronze.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> on Mon, 22 Nov 1999 Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com> wrote
>>In comp.lang.perl.misc Alan J. Flavell <flavell@mail.cern.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this was "only" your sig, but IMNSHO this needs refuting.
>>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Dave Eastabrook wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did you know there was a problem with Perl and JavaScript? Well,
>>>> http://www.elmbronze.co.uk/year2000/perlprob.htm is a tiny taster.
>>>
>>> There is _NO_ Y2K problem with Perl. Its behaviour is clearly
>>> documented for anyone who cares to RTFM, and it is entirely consistent.
>>>
>>> There are *big* problems with badly-written Perl scripts, of which their
>>> Y2K muddle is probably only a tiny part.
>>>
>>
>>I am amused that this page cites two of my clpm articles ... Interestingly
>>both of which go to some lengths to make the point that the misuse of
>>(localtime)[5] is a symptom of wider bad programming practice that can
>>be found in the bulk of Matt Wrights output ...
>
> Exactly why, if you remember from a couple of months ago, I did cite
> your two articles, the URLs for which you yourself supplied me with, and
> which you were aware of, contrary to the implication of your posting.
> See deja.com or whatever it's called these days.
>
I'm sure you are right - however my amusement is largely due to the fact
that the head line for this page on your Y2k links page is:
"Perl and JavaScript doomed"
Which is very far from the truth and very far from the point I was trying
to make and indeed the point you seem to be trying to make in the page -
Perl is more likely to be doomed because people are trying to use it to
make k3wl skriptz for their sites without actually wanting learn it ...
> I'm well aware of this NGs antipathy for Jocelyn Amon and can understand
> why, as she does have a very low regard for programmers. Much the same
> as you (generically) have a low regard for "consultants". I'm also
> perfectly aware that it is the use of the language, not the language
> itself that causes (most) problems - as opposed in fact to older
> releases of PL/1 and Cobol (and even dear old IBM assembler) which
> themselves or in run-time libraries did have built in Y2k problems.
>
> It's why I sought to put together a brief but balanced page, which,
> note, is in a "section" (sub-directory) of subject year2000, not Perl.
>
I hardly think "Perl and JavaScript Doomed" is either a balanced phrase
nor backed up by the facts. Under normal circumstances I would tend
to put it down to irony - but the 'Y2K issue' appears to be devoid of
irony in the majority of cases .
> However, there is a big difference; because of the proliferation of
> web-sites, the rapid advance of e-commerce, and the rapidly increasing
> floods of semi-clueless web authors, and thus due to the *current* usage
> of such badly written scripts, there are going to be innocent customers
> of ignorant (as opposed to merely arrogant) web-authors who are going to
> have problems. And I personally do *not* find that amusing. Do you?
>
This appears to be a consumer rights matter - I would write to Anne
Robinson. But as the old adage goes "you get what you pay for" - if people
will persist in downloading these *free* scripts of dubious provenance
then quite honestly I begin to experience sympathy fatigue; after all
there isnt a great deal more that *we* as a body of programmers can do:
Your zealots and envangelists like Jocelyn and the sundry nutters,bigots
survivalists and sociopaths that appear in comp.software.year-2000 can
bang on all they like about 'Programmer Denial' and other such bollocks
but in the end of the day there is nothing we can do to remedy the pervasive
installation of the crap that emanates from Matt's Script Archive and
other such 'festering hellholes' (as someone who is not with us at the
moment described them).
> My original posting had nothing to do with Perl, it was my Sig which
> caused your Alan Flavell to move this to this NG - one which I only
> occasionally lurk in. Unlike him I do not have the arrogance or
> ignorance - or sheer bad manners - to xpost this thread to where perhaps
> it truly belongs - comp.software.year-2000, as I have too high a regard
> for the saving of bandwidth with unnecessary flames, NG wars, and other
> self-serving nonsense, and do not have the arrogance to force him, or
> others, to subscribe to a high-posting level NG or take time out of busy
> schedules to select individual threads or postings via whatever means.
> Note that csy2k has an even higher flame temperature than this one.
>
csy2k is a wasteland : I read it for amusement every once in a while but I
dont believe that any worthwhile discussion that has any bearing on reality
takes place - I am led to believe however that it was not always like that.
What good would posting anything approaching a reasonable technical
discussion - a rebuttal of the implication of your signature - to that
group.
> Good luck to you all, but try learning a little humility and humanity.
> Or you'll stop learning at all (BTDTGTTS *and* the gaps on the CV).
>
I really dont understand what you are talking about - I will take it as an
insult.
/J\
--
"Of course I smoke pot, but I'm not in favour of legalizing it. The
working classes do little enough as it is..." - Jonathan Aitken
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 10:52:21 +0100
From: Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: Refining code
Message-Id: <383A63D5.120CFB1B@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
nigh_postal wrote:
>
> # Defines database fields
> @fields = (
> TITLE, DAY, MONTH, YEAR, CONTACT, PHONE, BYLINE, HEADING, BODY1,
> BODY2, BODY3, BODY4, HIDE, TIMESTAMP
> );
>
> # Reading from a database $DBNAME
> dbmopen(%DB, $DBNAME, 0664);
> foreach $dbkey (keys %DB)
> {
> @data = split(/\|/, $DB{$dbkey});
> for ( $i=0;$fields[$i];$i++)
> {
> ${$fields[$i]} = $data[$i];
> }
> }
> dbmclose(%DB);
If I understand this, you are overwriting the same globals via symbolic
refs for every entry in the database. Meaning that you'll end with the
data of whatever entry the dbm interface decided to give back last.
I suggest the following (which is UNTESTED):
#did you use -wT and use strict?
my %decoded_db;
my ($dbkey, $dbentry);
my %fieldhash = map {$fields[$_] => $_+1} 0..$#fields;
while (($dbkey,$dbentry)= each %DB) {
$decoded_db{$dbkey} = [\%fieldhash, split(/\|/, $dbentry)];
}
You can now read the fields of your db via $decoded_db{$mykey}{CONTACT}
This uses arrays as pseudo hashes.
Caution: this reads your whole database into memory!
- Alex
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 00:28:14 -0800
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Simple help
Message-Id: <MPG.12a3eff6e6156f8c98a259@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <38395658.76641CF@texas.net> on Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:42:32 -
0600, Tom Briles <sariq@texas.net> says...
> Larry Rosler wrote:
> > In article <3835769C.6D903FD8@texas.net> on Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:11:08 -
> > 0600, Tom Briles <sariq@texas.net> says...
> > ...
> > > /\s+(99.+)\s{2}/ and push @students, $1 while (<DATA>);
> >
> > But that should be non-greedy (99.+?), so you don't need the next step
> > that strips the trailing whitespace.
>
> Well, my test data had consecutive spaces *within* the name. Granted,
> that was not seen in the original poster's data (same with non-alpha
> characters, for which I also accounted).
>
> Any graceful ideas on how to strip the trailing whitespace, without an
> additional loop through the hash/array, are welcome.
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
use strict;
$_ = ' 9912345 John Q. Public III 87';
/ 99(\d+)\s+(.+\S) +\d/ and print "|99$1 $2|\n";
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 04:36:59 GMT
From: delcasti@cs.fsu.edu (Kent Delcastillo)
Subject: Simple question
Message-Id: <81d5lb$i0r$1@news.fsu.edu>
Hello all,
I'm writing a tiny script that'll route the user to a webpage based on a
form submission. The webpage is not created by the script. I don't know
how to route it! I know how to create a whole page and stuff, but not this
simple thing. The only thing I can think of is to make an HTML page
that'll load the next page. Is there a better way???
Thanks!
Kent
--
Kent Del Castillo
kent@kentd.com
http://www.kentd.com/
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 00:51:29 -0600
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Simple question
Message-Id: <slrn83kehm.m2v.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Kent Delcastillo (delcasti@cs.fsu.edu) wrote on MMCCLXXV September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:81d5lb$i0r$1@news.fsu.edu>:
()
() I'm writing a tiny script that'll route the user to a webpage based on a
() form submission. The webpage is not created by the script. I don't know
() how to route it! I know how to create a whole page and stuff, but not this
() simple thing. The only thing I can think of is to make an HTML page
() that'll load the next page. Is there a better way???
I've no idea what you mean by "route the user to a webpage", but I'm
100% sure it about as appropriate to ask here as in alt.shoot.the.moon.
Please take your web questions and ask it in a more appropriate forum.
rec.pets.spiders seems to have some experience with webbish things.
Abigail
--
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h[{e **###{r{+P={**{e^^^#'#i@{r'^=^{l+{#}H***i[0.9]&@a5`"':&^;&^,*&^$43##@@####;
c}^^^&&&k}&&&}#=e*****[]}'r####'`=437*{#};::'1[0.9]2@43`"'*#==[[.{{],,,1278@#@);
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 03:11:33 -0500
From: Nico Zigouras <zigouras@mail.med.upenn.edu>
To: Kent Delcastillo <delcasti@cs.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Simple question
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.4.21.9911230310580.18265-100000@mail.med.upenn.edu>
print"Location: /yourpage.html\n\n";
On 23 Nov 1999, Kent Delcastillo wrote:
> Date: 23 Nov 1999 04:36:59 GMT
> From: Kent Delcastillo <delcasti@cs.fsu.edu>
> Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.misc
> Subject: Simple question
>
> Hello all,
> I'm writing a tiny script that'll route the user to a webpage based on a
> form submission. The webpage is not created by the script. I don't know
> how to route it! I know how to create a whole page and stuff, but not this
> simple thing. The only thing I can think of is to make an HTML page
> that'll load the next page. Is there a better way???
> Thanks!
> Kent
>
> --
> Kent Del Castillo
> kent@kentd.com
> http://www.kentd.com/
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:02:37 GMT
From: cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Subject: Re: Turing machine
Message-Id: <s3kf0d2c3ef87@corp.supernews.com>
Ilya Zakharevich (ilya@math.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to Craig Berry
: <cberry@cinenet.net>],
: who wrote in article <s3jrbfpu3ef11@corp.supernews.com>:
: > Inspired by an offhand and facetious comment on a thread I can't presently
: > recall, I have implemented a Turing machine in Perl.
:
: I found a couple of old C-90 tapes. How do I insert them into the machine?
Horizontally, grooves first, label up.
--
| Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
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| "They do not preach that their God will rouse them
a little before the nuts work loose." - Kipling
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 07:03:26 GMT
From: cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Subject: Re: Turing machine
Message-Id: <s3kf1u653ef72@corp.supernews.com>
David Cassell (cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov) wrote:
: Craig Berry wrote:
: > The program ended up being a bit long to post here (wow, I feel like
: > Fermat)
:
: I hope not. Fermat has been dead a long time. :-)
And here I thought it was just a touch of the flu.
--
| Craig Berry - cberry@cinenet.net
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| "They do not preach that their God will rouse them
a little before the nuts work loose." - Kipling
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:37:57 -0500
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: Undefined error message I can't get rid of.
Message-Id: <slrn83jrvl.a1o.tadmc@magna.metronet.com>
[ please configure your newsreader to wrap at the conventional
70-72 characters
]
On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:13:44 -0600, ktb <xyf@inetnebr.com> wrote:
>Hi, I've been working on this little part of a search script and can't
>get around an error message.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
If you show us your error message we can try and help you with
that too.
But you have only a warning message shown below.
(but it is a Very Good Idea to understand _why_ perl is
warning you.
)
>I get the following error when a match
>is successful:
>
>
>###
>Use of uninitialized value at ./DB2.pl line 26, <STDIN> chunk 1 (#1)
>
> (W) An undefined value was used as if it were already defined. It
^
^
^ a warning, not an error (but you _do_ have a logic error)
>was
> interpreted as a "" or a 0, but maybe it was a mistake. To suppress
>this
> warning assign an initial value to your variables.
>###
>
>
>How do I assign an initial value to this?
$_ = 'somthing here';
> I tried assigning "1" to
>$SearchString and that didn't work. I don't understand this at all.
Because $SearchString is not the value that perl is complaining
about.
>________________________________________________________________________
><snip>
^^^^
Errr, now how are we supposed to know which line is line 26?
You should mark it, or describe which one it is.
We can't (not that we would) even count 26 lines 'cause some
of the lines are missing.
<shrug>
>print "Enter string to search: ";
>chomp($SearchString = <STDIN>);
>
>if($SearchString =~ /^\s/) { # Makes sure you don't add a space.
> print "Sorry you must enter a character.\n";
>
>YESORNO ();
>
>} elsif($SearchString eq /^\r/) { #Give error if only hit return.
^^^^^
What is in $_ ?
That pattern match will return either the empty string or the
string '1' with will then be compared to $SearchString.
elsif( $SearchString eq "\n") { # LF instead of CR, I think
^^
--
Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: 23 Nov 1999 06:25:31 GMT
From: dha@panix7.panix.com (David H. Adler)
Subject: Re: What is a good book on Perl
Message-Id: <slrn83kcqr.gte.dha@panix7.panix.com>
In article <383895CE.DC6EF60C@mail.cor.epa.gov>, David Cassell wrote:
>["Is that a theme or a motif, Pete?" "I dunno, Bob."]
There are certainly those 'round these parts that think these parts
require helmets... :-)
dave
--
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For the Forth aficionados reading this column, I offer my idea of the
ideal bumper sticker: "YOU FORTH LOVE IF HONK THEN."
- Chip Salzenberg, in The Perl Journal #12
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| NOTE: The mail to news gateway, and thus the ability to submit articles
| through this service to the newsgroup, has been removed. I do not have
| time to individually vet each article to make sure that someone isn't
| abusing the service, and I no longer have any desire to waste my time
| dealing with the campus admins when some fool complains to them about an
| article that has come through the gateway instead of complaining
| to the source.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
clpa@perl.com.
To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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