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Today's topics:
Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops <vjampire@usenet-performance-art.org>
Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops <meowatilla@usenet-performance-art.org>
Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops <Lt_Colonel/1st_Virginia_Volunteers/Cæsium_Brigade=+FF2+=mhm16_x_3@alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk-alt.nuke.france-NUKE_FRANCE_AND_THOSE_CUNTS_IN_BELGIUM_ALSO_THOSE_PRETEND_FROG_FUCKERS_IN_QUEBEC_Come_on_you_demon_yokels_PLONK_ME_YOU_FUCKHEADS>
Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops <meowatilla@usenet-performance-art.org>
Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops (nightmare)
Re: Perl Help <msalter@bestweb.net>
Re: perl lang parser (Salem Lee Ganzhorn)
problems reading text file (Aaron Chrismas)
Re: replace " " with (Greg Bacon)
Re: Round off a number raju_k@iname.com
Re: Special Problem <moseley@best.com>
SV: FAQ 3.9: Is there an IDE or Windows Perl Editor? <ulf.lindehoff@telia.com>
Re: Using Perl on an NT Platform patelni101480@my-deja.com
Re: Using Perl on an NT Platform (Kragen Sitaker)
Re: Who is worse: Cops or Criminals <meowatilla@usenet-performance-art.org>
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 21:24:22 +0100
From: The Vampire LeStat <vjampire@usenet-performance-art.org>
Subject: Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops or Criminals)
Message-Id: <7vspt8$pu3$4@nntpd.databasix.com>
On 04 Nov 1999 13:17:03 -0500, as I was cleaning my fangs, Uri Guttman
<uri@sysarch.com> almost made me bite my tongue with the following:
>
>why did this thread get into c.l.p.misc? keep it out of here
No.
>or we will
>make all your servers run only cobol.
That'd be like, fun!
>
>followups set to remove perl
FU's ignored
>
>uri
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:06:57 -0600
From: Rev. Meowatilla Al' Rashad <meowatilla@usenet-performance-art.org>
Subject: Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops or Criminals)
Message-Id: <7vsscs$8dg$1@nntpd.databasix.com>
In <7vspt8$pu3$4@nntpd.databasix.com>, The Vampire LeStat wrote:
> On 04 Nov 1999 13:17:03 -0500, as I was cleaning my fangs, Uri Guttman
> <uri@sysarch.com> almost made me bite my tongue with the following:
>
> >
> >why did this thread get into c.l.p.misc? keep it out of here
>
> No.
>
> >or we will
> >make all your servers run only cobol.
>
> That'd be like, fun!
> >
> >followups set to remove perl
>
> FU's ignored
> >
> >uri
If they start a fight, I'm going to make all their servers run only VISUAL
BASIC.
muhuhHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAAHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!11
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:01:56 GMT
From: Zombie Flesh Eater aka Rocky aka el loco roco aka........ <Lt_Colonel/1st_Virginia_Volunteers/Cæsium_Brigade=+FF2+=mhm16_x_3@alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk-alt.nuke.france-NUKE_FRANCE_AND_THOSE_CUNTS_IN_BELGIUM_ALSO_THOSE_PRETEND_FROG_FUCKERS_IN_QUEBEC_Come_on_you_demon_yokels_PLONK_ME_YOU_FUCKHEADS>
Subject: Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops or Criminals)
Message-Id: <MAMiOLrpnUs0BEoLodExLz5Wk=jR@4ax.com>
On 04 Nov 1999 13:17:03 -0500, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
>
>why did this thread get into c.l.p.misc? keep it out of here or we will
>make all your servers run only cobol.
>
>followups set to remove perl
What do you wanna remove the perl for?
It took me ages to put that around your wifes neck.
>uri
________ ________
/ ______/\ / ______/\ ___
/ /\_____\/ / /\_____\/ / /\
/ /_/__ / /_/__ / / /
/ _____/\ / _____/\ / / /
/ /\____\/ / /\____\/ / / /
/ / / / / / /__/ /
/_/ / /_/ / \__\/
\_\/ \_\/
I've eaten so much pussy, I've forgoten what real food tastes like.
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:55:18 -0600
From: Rev. Meowatilla Al' Rashad <meowatilla@usenet-performance-art.org>
Subject: Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops or Criminals)
Message-Id: <7vt2oa$1re$1@nntpd.databasix.com>
In <MAMiOLrpnUs0BEoLodExLz5Wk=jR@4ax.com>, Zombie Flesh Eater aka Rocky aka el
loco roco aka........ wrote:
> On 04 Nov 1999 13:17:03 -0500, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >why did this thread get into c.l.p.misc? keep it out of here or we will
> >make all your servers run only cobol.
> >
> >followups set to remove perl
>
> What do you wanna remove the perl for?
>
> It took me ages to put that around your wifes neck.
>
> >uri
>
> ________ ________
> / ______/\ / ______/\ ___
> / /\_____\/ / /\_____\/ / /\
> / /_/__ / /_/__ / / /
> / _____/\ / _____/\ / / /
> / /\____\/ / /\____\/ / / /
> / / / / / / /__/ /
> /_/ / /_/ / \__\/
> \_\/ \_\/
>
>
> I've eaten so much pussy, I've forgoten what real food tastes like.
Pussy, its not just for breakfast anymore!
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 23:02:48 GMT
From: nightmare44@subdimension.com (nightmare)
Subject: Re: nothing to do with perl (was Re: Who is worse: Cops or Criminals)
Message-Id: <8E74A04E8nightmare44subdimens@208.147.152.80>
The almighty prophet known as: meowatilla@usenet-performance-art.org (Rev.
Meowatilla Al' Rashad) spoke and with these words the masses knew of the
scam that had been laid upon them:
>In <MAMiOLrpnUs0BEoLodExLz5Wk=jR@4ax.com>, Zombie Flesh Eater aka Rocky
aka el
>loco roco aka........ wrote:
>> On 04 Nov 1999 13:17:03 -0500, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >why did this thread get into c.l.p.misc? keep it out of here or we will
>> >make all your servers run only cobol.
>> >
>> >followups set to remove perl
>>
>> What do you wanna remove the perl for?
>>
>> It took me ages to put that around your wifes neck.
>>
>> >uri
>>
>> ________ ________
>> / ______/\ / ______/\ ___
>> / /\_____\/ / /\_____\/ / /\
>> / /_/__ / /_/__ / / /
>> / _____/\ / _____/\ / / /
>> / /\____\/ / /\____\/ / / /
>> / / / / / / /__/ /
>> /_/ / /_/ / \__\/
>> \_\/ \_\/
>>
>>
>> I've eaten so much pussy, I've forgoten what real food tastes like.
>
>Pussy, its not just for breakfast anymore!
>
Pussy, makes a great snack anytime!
--
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http://www.angelfire.com/al2/nightmare44/Welcome.html
smeeter #33
"These train conversations are passing me by
and I don't have nothing to say
you get what you pay for but I just had no
intention of living this way"-Counting Crows
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:50:42 GMT
From: Mike Salter <msalter@bestweb.net>
Subject: Re: Perl Help
Message-Id: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9911041548190.22516-100000@monet.bestweb.net>
On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Alan wrote:
A>I need a little direction on this. I'm still sort of new to perl programming
A>and have written some
A>small simple scripts but this one I'm not real sure how to attack so any
A>input to web sites, books,
A>or similar scripts would be appreciated.
A>
A>I need to write a script to read a text file search for a specific line if
A>its there and modify the line.
A>If the line is not in the text file then I need to add it. Any thoughts?
Alan:
Point your browser to www.perl.com
Also, regularly read this newsgroup. A lot of your questions can be
answered by reading the FAQs posted here, and responses to questions.
HTH
Mike
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Date: 4 Nov 1999 18:29:55 GMT
From: slganzho@unity.ncsu.edu (Salem Lee Ganzhorn)
Subject: Re: perl lang parser
Message-Id: <7vsjb3$4dd$1@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu>
Dan Sugalski (dan@tuatha.sidhe.org) wrote:
: Salem Lee Ganzhorn <slganzho@unity.ncsu.edu> wrote:
:
: > Whew, thanks for the information all.
: > I guess my answer is I need to learn another language... YACC
:
: If all you're doing is scanning the code to handle dependencies, you most
: definitely don't need yacc. It's *way* overkill, and won't do what you
: want.
:
: Just scan through for require, do, and use, and you should be able to get
: the info you need. You may need to go walk the perl install tree to check
: module dates and such, but that's about it.
:
: Dan
I am also looking at subroutine/method/variable dependancies. The only part of
the syntax I really need to be able to parse is the namespace.
However this requires that I parse the grammer to some extent. This is for
makeing an automated QA suite which will only verify the code tree which
uses the modified subroutine/method/variable.
--
Salem Lee Ganzhorn... slganzho@unity.ncsu.edu
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Date: 4 Nov 1999 20:55:18 GMT
From: achrisma@s3.ucf.engr (Aaron Chrismas)
Subject: problems reading text file
Message-Id: <slrn823sm3.o2k.achrisma@s3.ucf.engr>
Hi,
I have a text file which stores a bit of network info
anThe problem
is that on of the fields is wrapped by "<....>". For
example:
A397-13D <G049> 17.2.3A 99Nov03 99Aug02
Somewhere between reading the file or printing out the
contents of the from within my script. Everything
between (and including) the brackets is lost. Does
anyone know of a solution??
Thanks in advance for any help.
Aaron Chrismas
Network Programmer/Analyst
UVic, Faculty of Engineering
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Date: 4 Nov 1999 21:55:00 GMT
From: gbacon@ruby.itsc.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: replace " " with
Message-Id: <7vsvbk$duv$2@info2.uah.edu>
In article <m1wvrytcwl.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>,
merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
: $line =~ s/\G / /g;
Grepping through the pods, \G is documented to work with s/// only in
the perlfaq pages. In perlop and perlre, it is only documented to
work with m//.
Greg
--
Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea; massive,
difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it.
-- Gene Spafford
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:44:06 GMT
From: raju_k@iname.com
Subject: Re: Round off a number
Message-Id: <7vsr6l$b8g$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Steve,
Opps, I should have included the caveat about rounding ... "straight
from the mouth of perldocs' babes:"
--------- Excerpt from 'perldoc -q round' ---------
>To see why, notice how you'll still have an issue on half-way-point
>alternation:
>
> for ($i = 0; $i < 1.01; $i += 0.05) { printf "%.1f ",$i}
>
> 0.0 0.1 0.1 0.2 0.2 0.2 0.3 0.3 0.4 0.4 0.5 0.5 0.6 0.7 0.7
> 0.8 0.8 0.9 0.9 1.0 1.0
>
>Don't blame Perl. It's the same as in C. IEEE says we have to do
>this. Perl numbers whose absolute values are integers under 2**31 (on
>32 bit machines) will work pretty much like mathematical integers.
>Other numbers are not guaranteed.
...
In article <3821C536.6A9375A8@entigo.com>,
steve plazony <splazony@entigo.com> wrote:
> using the round sub below, can anyone explain this:
>
> print round(113.1415, 3), "\n";
> - displays 113.141
>
> and
>
> print round(113.14151, 3), "\n";
> - displays 113.142
>
> i have read articles about Perl rounding differently
> from machine to machine.
>
> here are the machine specs that i am running on:
> Machine hardware: sun4u
> OS version: 5.6
> Processor type: sparc
> Hardware: SUNW,Ultra-1
>
> raju_k@iname.com wrote:
>
> > sub
> > round {
> > my($num, $places) = @_;
> > my $tmpl = "%.${places}f";
> > return sprintf($tmpl, $num);
> > }
> >
> > a call like:
> >
> > print round(3.1415926, 3), "\n";
> >
> > will display:
> >
> > 3.142
> >
> > --raju
> >
> > In article <38221DE8.167E@u-picardie.fr>,
> > Francois Dupradeau <fyd@u-picardie.fr> wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Is there a function in Perl to round off the 2nd or the third (or
the
> > > 5th, etc...) number after the decimal point of a number ?
> > > ex:
> > > 3.123456789 => 3.123
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Regards
> > > Francois
> > >
> > > --
> > > Francois Dupradeau
> > > ------------
> > > Faculte de Pharmacie
> > > 1, rue des Louvels
> > > 80037 Amiens Cedex
> > > France
> > > ------------
> > > Tel 33 (0)3 22 82 74 94
> > > Fax 33 (0)3 22 82 74 69
> > > Email fyd@u-picardie.fr
> > >
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:49:01 -0800
From: Bill Moseley <moseley@best.com>
Subject: Re: Special Problem
Message-Id: <MPG.128b9f2c718e120a989846@nntp1.ba.best.com>
Frank de Bot (debot@xs4all.nl) seems to say...
> I'll try to explain this as good as possible.
>
> I've a perl script ( test.pl ) with some HTML anchors. is there a way to
> create a HTTP_REFERER that isn't indentical to the one the browser wants
> to give.
$ENV{HTTP_REFERER} = 'something else';
But this doesn't sound like a perl question. And what ever it is you
are trying to do with HTTP_REFERER probalby won't work.
--
Bill Moseley mailto:moseley@best.com
pls note the one line sig, not counting this one.
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 21:07:41 GMT
From: "Ulf Lindehoff" <ulf.lindehoff@telia.com>
Subject: SV: FAQ 3.9: Is there an IDE or Windows Perl Editor?
Message-Id: <xAmU3.2033$i53.14528@newsc.telia.net>
Hi!
I recommend the Perl Builder from Solutionsoft
http://www.solutionsoft.com/perl.htm
Regards, Ulf
Tim Westlake <tim.westlakeNOtiSPAM@myremarq.com.invalid> skrev i
diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:1415c574.d56ebebd@usw-ex0101-007.remarq.com...
> In article <7vd0dj$3ea$1@gellyfish.btinternet.com>, Jonathan Stowe
> <gellyfish@gellyfish.com> wrote:
>
> > No I dont think that we will -
>
> You might not, however the rest of the world doesnt just program in C,
> C++, PERL and Java. Being able to tailor an editor to support a
> different and not widely used language as well as the more popular ones
> is something that I spent a while trying to find.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:03:01 GMT
From: patelni101480@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Using Perl on an NT Platform
Message-Id: <7vsopi$9dv$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <7vpjrd$v7g$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
patelni101480@my-deja.com wrote:
> I am trying to get Perl to use the NT command called shutdown. This
> command allows me to shutdown other computers on a network. In Perl I
> know there is a command called system, that would let me use shutdown.
> But when I try to use it, it gives me all the different shutdown
> options, it won't actually shutdown the machine. I can shutdown my
own
> local computer, but I can't shutdown other computers on a network.
> Anyone have any suggestions???
>
The code i am using is the following:
system ("shutdown \\computer name /C /Y /R");
And when i do it the same menu that comes up when you run shutdown /?
comes up. But if I got rid of the computer name and did shutdown /L /C
/Y /R, it would work and shut my own computer down.
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 21:20:27 GMT
From: kragen@dnaco.net (Kragen Sitaker)
Subject: Re: Using Perl on an NT Platform
Message-Id: <vMmU3.28283$23.1497622@typ11.nn.bcandid.com>
In article <7vsopi$9dv$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, <patelni101480@my-deja.com> wrote:
>In article <7vpjrd$v7g$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> patelni101480@my-deja.com wrote:
>The code i am using is the following:
>
>system ("shutdown \\computer name /C /Y /R");
>
>And when i do it the same menu that comes up when you run shutdown /?
>comes up. But if I got rid of the computer name and did shutdown /L /C
>/Y /R, it would work and shut my own computer down.
Someone answered your question yesterday on this thread. Try print
with that same string.
--
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Tue Nov 02 1999
6 days until the Internet stock bubble bursts on Monday, 1999-11-08.
<URL:http://www.pobox.com/~kragen/bubble.html>
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:14:56 -0600
From: Rev. Meowatilla Al' Rashad <meowatilla@usenet-performance-art.org>
Subject: Re: Who is worse: Cops or Criminals
Message-Id: <7vspbb$n1p$3@nntpd.databasix.com>
In <941738579.513880@samba.news.big-orange.net>, PJ Brons wrote:
> What is Rev. standing for????????????????????
> Rev. Meowatilla Al' Rashad heeft geschreven in bericht
> <7vqq5m$8p0$2@nntpd.databasix.com>...
> >In <3820F510.46FE@night.com>, Jamin,CISOL wrote:
> >> JBP615 wrote:
> >> >
>
> >I prove whatever half-facts I want, fuckhead. But did I tell you you could
> get
> >your tongue out of my asshole and speak? GET BACK TO WORK YOU LITTLE SHIT.
> >
> >This is your last warning.
I will not dignify this obvious troll with a response.
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