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Today's topics:
Re: Another 'or'? was [perl double-split] (Ilya Zakharevich)
C++ and embedded perl <kypriot@algo.com.gr>
Re: comparing text with words (Abigail)
Including modules directly in a script <send@no.junk.mail>
Re: It is always like this here? (Bart Lateur)
Re: New Modules: Conversion of C-structs to Perl <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Re: New Modules: Conversion of C-structs to Perl <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
newbie in embedded perl <kypriot@algo.com.gr>
Perl Newbie <Andrew_Longworth@bigfoot.com>
Re: Premature End Of Script Headers (Abigail)
Re: Range operators: two dots v.s. three dots (Abigail)
Re: Range operators: two dots v.s. three dots <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: regsrv32 <MATTHIAS.DRESCHER@mchr2.siemens.de>
Re: Something like FLY except for JPGs (Abigail)
Re: string number conversion <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: string number conversion <lr@hpl.hp.com>
USA Opportunities for Internet Savvy applicants <roger@wwpl.com>
Where are the includes? <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Re: Where are the includes? <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Writing to a dead socket does not cause SIGPIPE krotfrog@my-deja.com
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Date: 2 Nov 1999 09:38:30 GMT
From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)
Subject: Re: Another 'or'? was [perl double-split]
Message-Id: <7vmbem$d8l$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to lt lindley
<lee.lindley@bigfoot.com>],
who wrote in article <7vlq4d$a8f$1@rguxd.viasystems.com>:
> If I am aware enough of the problem to know that it exists, I add the
> extra line of code (if I care enough about the possibility of the
> exception ever happening). The existence of '??' could help people
> be aware of the potential problem.
Yes, I enjoyed this point of yours already. It looks very much on
topic, and I did not think of it.
> I'll buy your argument about the
> psychology of that. But once aware of the problem, I don't mind
> adding the extra line of code (when I care enough to do it).
This looks as it confirms my point. The "threshold of nuisance" being
lowered almost to 0 would (may?) lead to a different "care enough"
threshold.
> Is adding a new operator to the language syntax really the right
> thing to do to promote awareness of "truth" values in Perl?
> I think that more and frequent distinctions between definedness
> and truth throughout the documentation is probably a better answer.
> Since I am not providing patches to the documentation or the language
> implementation, my opinion is worth the paper it is written on.
[Remember, it costed the net "hundreds if not thousands dollars" to
propagate your message.]
I see no point in expanding already flabby documentation even more.
My idea is: what is need is a way to instill some degree of rigidness
into the language (by carefully designed pragmas etc) so that one can
have some "rigid core of documentation".
Those who do not care to have the behaviour of their programs
predictable will need to consult also the flabby parts of the
documentation.
Ilya
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:56:26 +0200
From: "Angel Kypriotis" <kypriot@algo.com.gr>
Subject: C++ and embedded perl
Message-Id: <7vmg8a$302g$1@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr>
Greetings,
I have created a C++ class. Its methods are implemented as Perl subroutines
residing in a module. My system is a Sun Sparc Ultra with Solaris 2.6. In my
driver program I try to call the Perl subs through the C++ class object but
I get an error message about undefined Perl subroutines called.Am I right to
assume that the Perl module is probably not parsed? If yes, how can I
use/require a module in my C++ driver program? Note that in order to use C++
i compile everything with g++ 2.8.1, and the perl dist. was precompiled with
gcc. I have read in perlembed that one must compile the programs the way
perl itself was compiled, but I want to use C++. I changed slightly the
build script in the ExtUtils::Embed module, however I don't know if I'm
doing it right.
I built my class along with my driver program on a Linux box also the same
way, but I got the same dissapointing results. My program either cannot
find the module which contains the Perl sub called or it terminates with a
segfault error.
Any ideas would be appreciated, because it's demo-time and time is running
out
Thanks in advance
Angel Kypriotis
Algosystems S.A.
email: kypriot@algo.com.gr
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Date: 2 Nov 1999 04:14:38 -0600
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: comparing text with words
Message-Id: <slrn81teb8.ren.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Larry Rosler (lr@hpl.hp.com) wrote on MMCCLIV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:MPG.128824eb84235efd98a181@nntp.hpl.hp.com>:
,, In article <slrn81t0l5.66b.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com> on 2 Nov 1999
,, 00:20:58 -0600, Abigail <abigail@delanet.com> says...
,,
,, ...
,,
,, > map {tr/\r\n\t / /s; print} /($pat)/;
,,
,, tr/\r\n\t / /s, print for /($pat)/;
I don't like the syntax: EXPR, EXPR modifier EXPR;
I find it confusing. I would use:
do {tr/\r\n\t / /s; print} for /($pat)/;
instead. But I like map more.
It's useful for obfuscation purposes though:
tr/\r\n\t / /s,
print,
for (/($pat)/); {
print
}
Abigail
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/ / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / / /
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:25:24 +1300
From: "Peter Sundstrom" <send@no.junk.mail>
Subject: Including modules directly in a script
Message-Id: <941570860.482740@shelley.paradise.net.nz>
I know this seems a totally crazy thing to do, but I have reasons for doing
it.
What I want to know is how can I directly include a perl module in my perl
script. Obviously I can't just plonk in the module code without some mods.
What modifications would I generally need to make, or is it too difficult?
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 08:39:17 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: It is always like this here?
Message-Id: <3822a303.3033013@news.skynet.be>
Jon Shemitz wrote:
>It's not just cluelessness that makes CGI people post here: it can be
>genuinely hard for a novice to know whether their particular problem is
>with the environment their script is running under or with their
>understanding of the language. Maybe there should be a
>comp.lang.perl.cgi.
I always assume that the general thought is: when in doubt, and it has
to run as CGI, use the dedicated CGI newsgroup
(comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi).
David Cassell wrote:
>But when they don't know whether their problem is HTTP, HTML,
>CGI, webserver config, Perl, or Javascript, they do *not* go
>to the right group.
That is one main point here. If there is any need for any dedicated
group at all, it is that of a "general problem" group, not of an even
more specialized group.
To pull in yet another silly comparison: if your car breaks down, and
you're not sure whether it is the motor, or the electric circuit that
got busted, it would be very annoying to find out the there were only
"car.troubles.motor" and "car.troubles.electric" newsgroups.
Don't say "get professional help". Let people try for themselves, with
some handholding. They will soon enough find out if they're cut out for
the task, or not.
Of course, for really mission-critical stuff, you *should* get
professional help. But some DIY-ing must be permitted. Or do you run to
the doctor every time your throat hurts a little?
[Disclaimer: most of what I wrote here, does *not* apply to David
Cassell in person.]
--
Bart.
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:31:08 +0100
From: Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: New Modules: Conversion of C-structs to Perl
Message-Id: <381EA14C.B803C3E2@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Vtrinh wrote:
>
> Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch> writes:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I did not find any documented method to convert a C/C++ struct to Perl.
> > I therefore wrote something of my own. Here is the pod I came up with so
> > far.
> >
> > What should I do with it?
> >.....
>
> I'm curious whether your module would take care of the internal padding
> behavior by a C-compiler? It's not clear to me when i read your pod. Thanks.
No problem with padding. The constructed functions convert each field
individually
- Alex
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 09:36:15 +0100
From: Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: New Modules: Conversion of C-structs to Perl
Message-Id: <381EA27F.E131A247@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Randy Kobes wrote:
>
> Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
> wrote in message news:381D7E46.42C37F29@ife.ee.ethz.ch...
>
> > I did not find any documented method to convert a C/C++ struct to Perl.
>
> Hi,
> I haven't looked to compare these to what you have, but there's a
> couple of modules that handle structs in perl - C::DynaLib::Struct in
> $CPAN/authors/id/JTOBEY/C-DynaLib-0.54.tar.gz, and Class::Template
> in $CPAN/authors/id/DMR/Class-Eroot-19960603.tar.gz.
C::DynaLib::Struct:
From the doc, I don't see how it handles arrays. My main motivation are
arrays. And the code seems to be ugly. Gives me 'conversion from pointer
to integer errors'. I cannot compile it.
Class::Template:
seems to be Perl only.
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 17:17:10 +0200
From: "Angel Kypriotis" <kypriot@algo.com.gr>
Subject: newbie in embedded perl
Message-Id: <7vmea0$2udm$1@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr>
Greetings,
I have created a C++ class.The methods of the class are actually implemented
as Perl subroutines. The subroutines reside in a module in a directory of
mine.I have embedded Perl in my driver program which uses the aforementioned
class.However when i run the program i get the error msg "undefined sub
called ...".Am I right to assume that the symbol table of the perl module is
not visible in my C++ main ?
Please any ideas out of this mess would be very appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Angel Kypriotis
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:46:07 +0100
From: "Andrew Longworth" <Andrew_Longworth@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Perl Newbie
Message-Id: <381ec0f1@isoit370.bbn.hp.com>
I have never used perl before and need to write some perl. Does anyone know
where I can find info on the web. (tutorials etc.)
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Date: 2 Nov 1999 02:16:24 -0600
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Premature End Of Script Headers
Message-Id: <slrn81t7dj.66b.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Martin Elliott (martin@mert.globalnet.co.uk) wrote on MMCCLIII September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:7vl6n1$et6$1@gxsn.com>:
\\ When I run my Perl CGI on server, having tested it with Perl Builder
\\ off-line, I get a 'Premature End Of Script Header' error in the error log.
That means you have a bug.
\\ Does anyone know what this means and how to fix it as I am still learning
\\ Perl and trying to get to grips with it?
\\
\\ Thanks for your time,
\\
\\ Martin
\\
\\ p.s. sorry for the cgi content, but I can't approve any messages to
\\ comp.infosystems...cgi.
And? Why don't you post your message in alt.food.coffee then? Just
because comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi seems to have a fucked up
moderation scheme, why should this group act as a spill-over?
Abigail
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Date: 2 Nov 1999 02:39:22 -0600
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Range operators: two dots v.s. three dots
Message-Id: <slrn81t8om.66b.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
John Lin (johnlin@chttl.com.tw) wrote on MMCCLIV September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:7vlnis$j0c@netnews.hinet.net>:
~~ Hi,
~~ I see the two dot operator '..' and three dot operator '...' in perlop.
~~ Without examples, I can't understand the difference.
$ perl -wle 'for (qw /foobar barbar bazbar/) {print}' |\
perl -wne 'print if /foo/ .. /bar/'
foobar
barbar
$ perl -wle 'for (qw /foobar barbar bazbar/) {print}' |\
perl -wne 'print if /foo/ ... /bar/'
foobar
$
Abigail
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Date: 2 Nov 1999 10:35:48 GMT
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Range operators: two dots v.s. three dots
Message-Id: <381ebe84_1@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
John Lin <johnlin@chttl.com.tw> wrote:
> Hi,
> I see the two dot operator '..' and three dot operator '...' in perlop.
> Without examples, I can't understand the difference.
>
> for(a..z) { print }
> for(a...z) { print } # the same!
>
When it is being used in a list context like this there is absolutely no
difference in its behaviour.
> while(<>) { print if 1..5 }
> while(<>) { print if 1...5 } # the same!
>
In a scalar context (ie like this ) then the number of dots determines
the way that the operands are evaluated : with two dots the two operands
can be evaluated in the same iteration - that is two say that if both
conditions fall on the same line - with three it will not evaluate the right
hand operand until the next time. Of course you will not see this
behaviour when you are implicitly using $. to match against as your example
but you may see it if you are you (e.g.) using regex :
[pigment.dircon.net] $ perl -e 'while(<>) { print if (/foo/ ... /bar/) }'
foo hfgfg bar
foo hfgfg bar
uryjh
uryjh
[pigment.dircon.net] $ perl -e 'while(<>) { print if (/foo/ .. /bar/) }'
foo hfgfh bar
foo hfgfh bar
dhjdh
/J\
--
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 08:17:51 +0100
From: MATTHIAS DRESCHER <MATTHIAS.DRESCHER@mchr2.siemens.de>
Subject: Re: regsrv32
Message-Id: <381E901F.A5AE1369@mchr2.siemens.de>
Thanks for the help, ... but i did all this....
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
>
> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:21:23 +0200 MATTHIAS DRESCHER wrote:
> > can anybody tell me what is regsrv32 and where I can find it ?
> > by the way: itīs not in my system32-dirctory.
> >
>
> Have you tried asking in a newsgroup that might discuss these things ?
>
> Have you searched for the file on your disk using whatever facilities
> your operating system might provide ?
>
> /J\
> --
> Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
> <http://www.gellyfish.com>
> Hastings: <URL:http://dmoz.org/Regional/UK/England/East_Sussex/Hastings>
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Date: 2 Nov 1999 02:41:20 -0600
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: Something like FLY except for JPGs
Message-Id: <slrn81t8sb.66b.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>
Markus Svilans (bh447@freenet.carleton.ca) wrote on MMCCLIV September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:381e360a.6191314@news.ncf.carleton.ca>:
.. Does anybody know where I could get my hands on a command line
.. graphical program similar to Fly (available at
.. http://www.unimelb.edu.au/fly/fly.html) except that it can process
.. JPGs? At the very least I need something that can take Jpegs as input
.. files, resize them to thumbnail size and save the output to a GIF.
And your Perl question is?
Abigail
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Date: 02 Nov 1999 03:05:40 -0500
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: string number conversion
Message-Id: <x7wvs18giz.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "LR" == Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> writes:
LR> BTW, these ?: are sequential, not nested. Nested are decidedly less
LR> dandy.
what is your meaning of sequential vs nested?
if one of the return values of ?: is another, it is nested. i bet you
mean if it is the left one it is nested but the right one it is
sequential. either way it is hard to grok by humans so it is poor
code. ?: should be use only once in an expression IMO, except is very
clear cases.
LR> And it will do it quietly, too. Laziness... (per The Larry).
eh, i like my data being clean. my regex grabbed only the digits.
LR> You're welcome. I stole the basic stuff from you first. :-)
i was going to call you a gonif, but i held back.
uri
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:47:23 -0800
From: Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com>
Subject: Re: string number conversion
Message-Id: <MPG.128844f72ab8fe5598a187@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <x7wvs18giz.fsf@home.sysarch.com> on 02 Nov 1999 03:05:40 -
0500, Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> says...
> >>>>> "LR" == Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> writes:
>
> LR> BTW, these ?: are sequential, not nested. Nested are decidedly less
> LR> dandy.
>
> what is your meaning of sequential vs nested?
Sequential:
$a ? $b : $c ? $d : $e
111111111 222222222222
Nested:
$a ? $b ? $c : $d : $e
1111 222222222222 1111
> if one of the return values of ?: is another, it is nested. i bet you
> mean if it is the left one it is nested but the right one it is
> sequential.
Yes.
> either way it is hard to grok by humans so it is poor
> code.
NO!
> ?: should be use only once in an expression IMO, except is very
> clear cases.
Not the first time we have disagreed on style, is it?
The sequence of alternatives is about as simple as code can be. It
reads well without punctuation:
if $a then $b elsif $c then $d else $e
The nested alternatives are much harder to read and decipher without
punctuation:
if $a then if $b then $c else $d else $e
> LR> And it will do it quietly, too. Laziness... (per The Larry).
>
> eh, i like my data being clean. my regex grabbed only the digits.
No credit for that, IMO.
> LR> You're welcome. I stole the basic stuff from you first. :-)
>
> i was going to call you a gonif, but i held back.
No, please, a researcher (shades of The Great Lobachevsky).
--
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Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:50:37 +1300
From: "Roger Herbert" <roger@wwpl.com>
Subject: USA Opportunities for Internet Savvy applicants
Message-Id: <941532812.899160@news.iconz.co.nz>
All nationalities considered if you have
a) Computer Science degree,
B) Excellent English.
Skills sought, combinations considered in the below list;
C/C++,Visual C, Visual Basic, SQL,OLE, COM, DCOM, HTML, CGI Scripts, Java
TM, Unix QA,
Database QA, API, Perl, ORA Perl, CORBA, OO, Silk, Windrunner, Cold Fusion,
Broadvision, MSIIS.
Silicon valley based Company, 3 weeks process time to offer/contract,
further 6 weeks to H1 Visa.
emails/cv to
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:46:20 +0100
From: Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Subject: Where are the includes?
Message-Id: <381EB2EC.8EA0B4F0@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Hi
I need to find the perl include files in a Makefile
The best I came up with so far is
perl -MExtUtils::MakeMaker -e 'print
ExtUtils::MakeMaker->new()->{PERL_INC}'
But this gives me some warnings along with the desired directory which I
can pass the compiler
Any hints?
- Alex
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 11:16:42 +0100
From: Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: Where are the includes?
Message-Id: <381EBA0A.AD16B5B@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Alex Rhomberg wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I need to find the perl include files in a Makefile
>
> The best I came up with so far is
> perl -MExtUtils::MakeMaker -e 'print
> ExtUtils::MakeMaker->new()->{PERL_INC}'
>
> But this gives me some warnings along with the desired directory which I
> can pass the compiler
After some searching in MakeMaker, this seems to give the desired
result:
perl -MExtUtils::MakeMaker -e 'ExtUtils::MakeMaker->full_setup;
$^W=0;print ExtUtils::MakeMaker->new({NAME=>1})->{PERL_INC}'
New I have somethign to put in a tiny $(shell ...) in the GNUmakefile
- Alex
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Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 08:57:50 GMT
From: krotfrog@my-deja.com
Subject: Writing to a dead socket does not cause SIGPIPE
Message-Id: <7vm92f$i1f$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Please help!
I am writing a simple client-server perl application.
The client connects to a TCP socket, and server sends
a messages to it. When client dies, one more message
from server can be sent not causing SIGPIPE.
I.e:
Msg 1 sent (send() returns ok) ===> received by client
Msg 2 sent (send() returns ok) ===> received by client
Client dead
Msg 3 sent (send() returns ok) ===> ?? no one here
Msg 4 sent -- SIGPIPE for server
Any ideas?
TIA, O.Krotoff
I have played with message length, autoflush() and SO_SNDBUF,
but nothing have changed...
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| time to individually vet each article to make sure that someone isn't
| abusing the service, and I no longer have any desire to waste my time
| dealing with the campus admins when some fool complains to them about an
| article that has come through the gateway instead of complaining
| to the source.
To submit articles to comp.lang.perl.announce, send your article to
clpa@perl.com.
To request back copies (available for a week or so), send your request
to almanac@ruby.oce.orst.edu with the command "send perl-users x.y",
where x is the volume number and y is the issue number.
For other requests pertaining to the digest, send mail to
perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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