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Perl-Users Digest Wed, 6 Oct 1999 Volume: 9 Number: 998
Today's topics:
Re: CHOWN in PERL <jbc@shell2.la.best.com>
Das GlasPerlenspiel <andrew.yuen@fujitsu.com.au>
Re: eval Problem (Anno Siegel)
Re: how to change a '\' to '/' ? <WiseGuy_73@go.com>
Re: how to invoke DUN from perl? <carvdawg@patriot.net>
Re: Memory leak in assignment rob1234567@my-deja.com
Re: Memory leak in assignment <skilchen@swissonline.ch>
Re: Memory leak in assignment (Ilya Zakharevich)
Re: Memory leak in assignment rob1234567@my-deja.com
Re: Newbie: Combining split and shift on One Statement (Anno Siegel)
Re: News, Apache, and Perl (d.k. henderson)
Re: odd or even numbers? <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Re: Perl macros for vi (I.J. Garlick)
Re: Redirecting output to /dev/null <WiseGuy_73@go.com>
Re: Response appreciated but.... (Henry Penninkilampi)
Re: Seperating records in a text file: just getting eve (I.J. Garlick)
Re: Seperating records in a text file: just getting eve (Eric Bohlman)
Re: Solaris 7 gcc 2.95.1 perl 5.005_03 wont Configure (Martien Verbruggen)
Re: To Abigail re: reading current threads (Martien Verbruggen)
Re: To Abigail re: reading current threads (Benjamin Franz)
Re: To Abigail re: reading current threads (Matthew Bafford)
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Date: 06 Oct 1999 06:28:33 GMT
From: John Callender <jbc@shell2.la.best.com>
Subject: Re: CHOWN in PERL
Message-Id: <37faec11$0$209@nntp1.ba.best.com>
Martien Verbruggen <mgjv@comdyn.com.au> wrote:
> There are really only two ways you can get these files to be owned by
> another user:
> 1) run apache as another user (bad, bad, bad idea)
> 2) run the CGI scripts suid (even worse, horrible idea, and your ISP
> will probably refuse it, and rightly so)
I'm curious if you mean that any running of a CGI script setuid is a
horrible idea, or merely that this particular questioner trying to do
so is a horrible idea.
Accompanied by sufficient paranoia and taint-checking, setuid scripts
seem a workable solution to me to the problem of having the Web server
write to the local filesystem. Is this just my clueless nature
asserting itself again?
Disclaimer: I realize that in a perfect world this discussion would be
taking place in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi. Flame if you must,
but if you do, give me the good stuff, since I'm not merely ignorant of
the convention, but have in fact flouted it wilfully, at least in this
case.
I guess I'm like the drunk, searching for his keys under the street
lamp despite having lost them on the other side of the street. "The
light seemed better over here," and all that.
--
John Callender
jbc@west.net
http://www.west.net/~jbc/
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:45:57 +1000
From: "Fujitsu Australia Limited" <andrew.yuen@fujitsu.com.au>
Subject: Das GlasPerlenspiel
Message-Id: <7ter2b$2b7@newshost.fujitsu.com.au>
Is Perl the Glass Bead Game or is the Glass Bead Game available as a Perl
module?
These rules, the sign language and grammar of the Game, constitute a kind of
highly developed secret language drawing upon several science and arts, but
especially mathematics and music, and capable of expressing and establishing
interrelationships between the contents and the conclusions of nearly all
scholarly disciplines, The Glass Bead Game is thus a mode of playing with
the total contents and values of our culture; it plays with them as, say, in
the great age of the arts painter might have played with the colors of his
palette. All the insights, noble thoughts, and works of art that the human
race has produced in its creative eras, all that subsequent periods of
scholarly study have reduced to concepts and converted to intellectual
property - on all this immense body of intellectual values the Glass Bead
Game player plays like an organist on the organ.
Hermann Hesse
Das Glasperlenspiel
1943
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Date: 6 Oct 1999 07:20:40 -0000
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Re: eval Problem
Message-Id: <7tet88$c5a$1@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
Gernot Homma <gernot@cat.at> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>--------------7D7D67A799D02549516A2E29
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>The problem is, that this code is part of a bigger project, and it's not
>usefull to post the whole code.
[snip pseudocode]
>I hope this is now clearer
Not at all, sorry. Reduce your code to a *runnable* minimal example
that exhibits your problem. You may find the error yourself in the
process; if you don't, post again.
>By the way:
>Is there another way to call a method by a string
What does that mean?
Oh, and don't post jeopardy style. And don't post mime.
Anno
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 01:26:57 -0700
From: Wise Guy <WiseGuy_73@go.com>
Subject: Re: how to change a '\' to '/' ?
Message-Id: <0a0133f8.4d672d1c@usw-ex0102-009.remarq.com>
<rudolpht@lsv-wuerttemberg.de> wrote:
> Ok, I guess my question was´nt very clear. Let´s try it again :).
> I read a file (ascii) with paths in it.
> For example the file could look like this:
> home\1234567890\1234567890-0
> .... # several other lines with paths; all paths have '\' as
> delimiter
> When I read the file (@lines = <FILE>), I want to change all the
> '\'-delimiters to '/'.
> >>$path = "\my_dir\my_file";
Try setting $path = '\my_dir\my_file';
When u use single quotes, each character is taken literally - when u
use double quotes, they are treated as special characters !
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 05:37:15 -0400
From: "Harlan Carvey, CISSP" <carvdawg@patriot.net>
Subject: Re: how to invoke DUN from perl?
Message-Id: <37FB184B.C06068ED@patriot.net>
It took me a while to figure out what was going on in this mess of quoted
'group posts, but I think I have it now. The original poster wants to run
DUN via some Perl script. I can see he response posted doesn't go anywhere
near addressing the response, so here goes:
http://base.dux.ru/guest/fno/perl/
Hopefully this is what you are looking for...
>
> > >I'm running active state perl 519 on W98, and NT. What I want to do
> is
> > >to invoke a pre-defined connection defined in DUN so as to cause a
> dial-
> > >out to a RAS access number (so I can do a Net::Ping to various
> hosts).
> > >I thought that might be easy, and perhaps it is, just that I don't
> know
> > >how to do it...
> > >I suppose if it was possible to invoke a connection with a Start.Run,
> > >then I could use a system("mi_coomand"). But maybe the answer llies
> in
> > >the Win32 api?
> > >If i get stuck I guess I could install RAS on NT, and not use the
> W98,
> > >and cause a dial-out with a ping to a remote IP address (associated
> > >with a phone num in RAS) but that's not really what i want to do.
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 07:29:58 GMT
From: rob1234567@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Memory leak in assignment
Message-Id: <7tetpd$anp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <rvkdnfm0rad51@corp.supernews.com>,
cberry@cinenet.net (Craig Berry) wrote:
>
> The expression (1 .. 10_000_000) expands into a real, actual,
in-memory
> list of the integers from 1 to 10 million. At four bytes per integer,
> that's a minimum of 40 megabytes of memory required, plus whatever
> structural overhead the list itself imposes. Apparently your
per-process
> memory use limit is lower than this.
>
> Instead, code it as:
>
> for (my $i = 1; $i <= 10_000_000; $i++) {
> : {
> : #undef $a;
> : $a = 1;
> : }
> : ## end of perl script
The example script I sent in my original post was an attempt to simplify
the problem I had, but in stead I introduced a new one, the original
problem did not contain a loop but contains many assignments in the
input loop...
The loop above did run without memory problems.
Now I have another small script that does represent the problem (I
think), the problem seems to be on automatic string-to-number
conversions and/or accessing associative array entries by index.
When the if-clause is set to 1, the program grows to 230 MB and takes
about 10 secs, when the if-clause is set to 0, it returns immediately.
Do I need to force interpretation of my key to be strings?
If so, what is the best way to do this?
## start of perl script
%a=();
if (1) {
$a["19990920"]++;
$a["19990921"]++;
$a["19990922"]++;
$a["19990923"]++;
$a["19990924"]++;
$a["19990925"]++;
$a["19990926"]++;
$a["19990927"]++;
$a["19990928"]++;
$a["19990929"]++;
}
else {
$a["x19990920"]++;
$a["x19990921"]++;
$a["x19990922"]++;
$a["x19990923"]++;
$a["x19990924"]++;
$a["x19990925"]++;
$a["x19990926"]++;
$a["x19990927"]++;
$a["x19990928"]++;
$a["x19990929"]++;
}
## end of perl script
Thanks,
Rob
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 08:22:44 GMT
From: "Samuel Kilchenmann" <skilchen@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Memory leak in assignment
Message-Id: <oFDK3.22422$m4.83029819@news.magma.ca>
<rob1234567@my-deja.com> wrote in:
news:7tetpd$anp$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> Now I have another small script that does represent the problem (I
> think), the problem seems to be on automatic string-to-number
> conversions and/or accessing associative array entries by index.
>
The problem is that you use the array-indexing syntax but you wanted
hash-indexing syntax.
> $a["19990920"]++;
This creates an array @a with 19990921 elements and increments the value
of the last element.
Try:
$a{"19990920"}++;
instead.
> $a["x19990920"]++;
This creates an array @a with one element and increments its value. Your
following lines all increment this same value.
(Strings are evaluated to 0 if the context needs an Integer and the
String can not be converted to an Int according to Perl's rules)
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Date: 6 Oct 1999 08:26:43 GMT
From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich)
Subject: Re: Memory leak in assignment
Message-Id: <7tf143$132$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
[A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to
<rob1234567@my-deja.com>],
who wrote in article <7tetpd$anp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>:
> Do I need to force interpretation of my key to be strings?
> If so, what is the best way to do this?
use strict;
> %a=();
>
> if (1) {
> $a["19990920"]++;
Hope this helps,
Ilya
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:50:25 GMT
From: rob1234567@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Memory leak in assignment
Message-Id: <7tf60u$fur$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <oFDK3.22422$m4.83029819@news.magma.ca>,
"Samuel Kilchenmann" <skilchen@swissonline.ch> wrote:
> The problem is that you use the array-indexing syntax but you wanted
> hash-indexing syntax.
That is exactly what I did wrong, probably one of the awk-to-perl
pitfalls.
Thanks,
Rob
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Date: 6 Oct 1999 08:49:44 -0000
From: anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Re: Newbie: Combining split and shift on One Statement
Message-Id: <7tf2f8$c8s$1@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
Samuel Kilchenmann <skilchen@swissonline.ch> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:
>I.J. Garlick wrote ...
>>In article <mfleming-0410991155460001@cserv51.csubak.edu>,
>>mfleming@csub.edu (Michael W. Fleming) writes:
>>> I have the following situation:
>>>
>>> $x = " abc xxx";
>>> @stuff = split(/\s+/,$x);
>>> shift(@stuff);
>>>
>>> How might I accomplish this?
>>
>>Simple answer you don't.
>>
>Because shift is an inplace modifier of arrays and what split returns is a
>immutable list value?
Indeed. Expression evaluation usually results in a read-only value.
Exceptions (vec(), substr()) are rare and well documented.
>But why is it not possible to get all but the first element from a list
>value? Something like the "cdr", "butfirst", "next" functions, or the [1:]
>idexing notation available in some other languages.
Of course it is possible. It's a design decision not to have yet another
operator to do for lists what can readily be done with arrays.
Anno
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:25:27 GMT
From: dalekh@hotmail.com (d.k. henderson)
Subject: Re: News, Apache, and Perl
Message-Id: <8E563798Cdkhenderson@207.14.236.35>
hypernews.org has source providing a browser interface.
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:59:41 +0200
From: Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
To: sholden@cs.usyd.edu.au
Subject: Re: odd or even numbers?
Message-Id: <37FB016D.49FE4B67@ife.ee.ethz.ch>
Sam Holden wrote:
>
> On Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:11:29 +0200,
> Alex Rhomberg <rhomberg@ife.ee.ethz.ch> wrote:
> >Abigail wrote:
> >
> >> __ Does anybody know if there is an easy way to check whether a scalar value
> >> __ contains a odd or even integer?
> >
> >>
> >> sub is_even {
> >> my $number = abs shift;
> >> $number ? is_odd -- $number : 1;
> >> }
> >>
> >> sub is_odd {!is_even shift}
> >>
> >> Or if you don't want to type that much:
> >>
> >> sub is_even {"${\5*$_[0]}" =~ /0$/}
> >
> >
> >- it doesn't terminate given fractional numbers
>
> Which is reasoanable since they are neither even nor odd.
>
> >- returns true given text (which clearly aren't even integers)
>
> Which is reasonable since text is 0 in perl (unless the text looks like a
> number of course). And 0 is usually considered to be even.
Read the original question. "check wether a scalar value contains an odd
or even integer"
3.4 is a perfect scalar value, yet abigail function never returns
q@hallo@ is a perfect scalar value and clearly no even integer, yet the
function returns true.
And text is not 0 in perl. Text is text. It is 0 in a numeric context.
- Alex
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:59:31 GMT
From: ijg@connect.org.uk (I.J. Garlick)
Subject: Re: Perl macros for vi
Message-Id: <FJ68v7.2wD@csc.liv.ac.uk>
In article <37FA0AD7.987E34C3@pc-plus.de>,
Stephen Riehm <sr@pc-plus.de> writes:
> Ken Chesak wrote:
> Do the macros have to be for vi, or would you consider using vim? (a
> better vi!)
In most cases I think a lot of people are using vim and don't know it. I
think most of the uptodate linux distributions come with vi aliased to vim
and compatible mode turned on. (I could be wrong).
> If so, you might like to try my macros, available at
> http://www.bigfoot.com/~stephen.riehm
Nice concept. Might try it some time.
However my real reason for posting is STYLE, or lack of it on your home
pages. I mean us Brits know you ausies lack finnese but God man could you
have found worse background gif's to use? I doubt it. The second page the
vim macros link takes you to is almost impossible to read, so much so I
gave up and just clicked the link, with some trepidation and the
realisation that I would have to abandon all thought of wrestling with any
content if you used yet another killer background gif. I have never been
more greatful to say a drab grey background in my life, and I usually
detest those as they generally show a lack of care and understanding of
HTML and multi browser/platform awareness.
(Nothing personal in that last statement you understand).
Do yourself a favour go get a better background gif.
--
Ian J. Garlick
ijg@csc.liv.ac.uk
You probably wouldn't worry about what people think of you if you could
know how seldom they do.
-- Olin Miller.
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 01:44:14 -0700
From: Wise Guy <WiseGuy_73@go.com>
Subject: Re: Redirecting output to /dev/null
Message-Id: <0a0133f8.51e96024@usw-ex0102-009.remarq.com>
This looks like a O/S-level problem rather than anything to do with
Perl.
What might be happening is that the output may have been taken care of
but what might be displayed onto the screen is the error message.
Try this :-
hey SoundPlay set file of track 0 to file\(filename\) > /dev/null 2>&1
OR
hey SoundPlay set file of track 0 to file\(filename\) >& /dev/null
depending on what shell u are using.
Cheers !
bounce.waxwing@dnai.com (Scot Hacker) wrote:
> hey SoundPlay set file of track 0 to file\(filename\) > /dev/null
> to dump the output to the bit bucket. So I want to do this from my
> perl
> script, and I use:
> @ControlSP = ("hey", "SoundPlay", "set", "file", "of", "track", \
> "0", "to", "file\($Current\)", ">", "/dev/null");
> system (@ControlSP);
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 19:21:32 +0930
From: spamfree@metropolis.net.au (Henry Penninkilampi)
Subject: Re: Response appreciated but....
Message-Id: <spamfree-0610991921320001@d4.metropolis.net.au>
In article <slrn7vkvdd.2j4.*@dragons.duesouth.net>, *@dragons.duesouth.net
wrote:
> Please don't change the subject line every time you post a reply.
Ah, but he might be under the impression that we can only killfile
threads, not people, and hence he might think that is a clever way to be
able to keep his 'thread' alive - 'moving target' logic.
> HTH, HAND,
Alright, I give up. What do these acronyms stand for? No idea bout the
first. Would the last be "Have A Nice Day"?
Henry.
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:21:29 GMT
From: ijg@connect.org.uk (I.J. Garlick)
Subject: Re: Seperating records in a text file: just getting every OTHER one.
Message-Id: <FJ69vt.3KE@csc.liv.ac.uk>
In article <19991005173436.21744.00001238@ng-ch1.aol.com>,
pfash1@aol.com (Pfash1) writes:
> #!perl-w
what happened to use strict;?
> open (FH, 'Buncha emails');
Didn't check if the file actually opens, bummer.
> while (<FH>)
> {
Ok you have read the first line (and the 3rd, 5th, 7th, etc... records).
> $/ = "+++++++++++++++++++++++";
now your setting up to read records, inside the while loop!!!!
> $_ = <FH>;
You've just read the second record.
> s/\n[ \t]+/ /g;
> push(@eachrecord, $_);
> }
> This actually just pushes everyOTHER record into the @eachrecord array. Why oh
> why?
It's what you asked it to do. (see above)
> How can I get each record into the array?
do it right.
open (FH, 'Buncha emails') or die "Buncha emails didn't open: $!";
local $/ = '+++++++++++++++++++++++';
while (<FH>) {
s/\n[ \t]+/ /g;
push @eachrecord;
}
> If you can shoot your reply to my pfash@umich.edu account I would greatly
> appreciate it.
Sorry you used an aol address, you want an email reply as well to the .edu
address put it in the From: field like everyone else.
Oh yes. Get your news reader to submit shorter lines as well, 74 chars per
line maximum not 80 like you did.
--
Ian J. Garlick
ijg@csc.liv.ac.uk
You probably wouldn't worry about what people think of you if you could
know how seldom they do.
-- Olin Miller.
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Date: 6 Oct 1999 09:44:35 GMT
From: ebohlman@netcom.com (Eric Bohlman)
Subject: Re: Seperating records in a text file: just getting every OTHER one.
Message-Id: <7tf5m3$6np@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com>
I.J. Garlick (ijg@connect.org.uk) wrote:
: > while (<FH>)
: > {
:
: Ok you have read the first line (and the 3rd, 5th, 7th, etc... records).
:
: > $/ = "+++++++++++++++++++++++";
:
: now your setting up to read records, inside the while loop!!!!
Reminds me of a rather old joke. A young man riding on a bus asks an
older passenger where to get off to get to [destination of your choice].
The old man tells the youngster "watch where I get off, and get off three
stops before that."
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 06:28:39 GMT
From: mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
Subject: Re: Solaris 7 gcc 2.95.1 perl 5.005_03 wont Configure
Message-Id: <r_BK3.35$bM2.2201@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net>
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:09:19 +0200,
news.abb.de <roman.thelen@abb.de> wrote:
> Use which C compiler? [cc] gcc
> Configure: -V: not found
> *** WHOA THERE!!! ***
> Your C compiler "gcc -B/usr/ccs/bin/" doesn't seem to be working!
> You'd better start hunting for one and let me know about it.
My guess: gcc.
Is gcc in your path when you try to build it? Just before typing sh
Configure (in the same environment as you used before) try
# gcc -v
If that doesn't work, I suggest you add something to your path.
Martien
--
Martien Verbruggen |
Interactive Media Division | Think of the average person. Half of
Commercial Dynamics Pty. Ltd. | the people out there are dumber.
NSW, Australia |
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 06:30:09 GMT
From: mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
Subject: Re: To Abigail re: reading current threads
Message-Id: <R%BK3.36$bM2.2201@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net>
On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 01:36:48 -0400,
Elaine -HFB- Ashton <elaine@chaos.wustl.edu> wrote:
> Martien Verbruggen wrote:
> > Celine Dion is not nearly as entertaining as whinges about bas Usenet
> > etiquette! It's not a fair comparison.
>
> My own personal version of hell is hearing her sing for eternity. Erk,
> she makes me wretch. TAKE HER BACK OH CANADA! :) Listen to that darn
> Titanic theme song for 24 hours and I'll bet you'll think that you, too,
> have glimpsed hell.
I hope you're not speaking from experience.. 24 hours... *shudder*
--
Martien Verbruggen |
Interactive Media Division |
Commercial Dynamics Pty. Ltd. | "Mr Kaplan. Paging Mr Kaplan..."
NSW, Australia |
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 08:25:51 GMT
From: snowhare@long-lake.nihongo.org (Benjamin Franz)
Subject: Re: To Abigail re: reading current threads
Message-Id: <jIDK3.796$xG3.43997@typhoon01.swbell.net>
In article <R%BK3.36$bM2.2201@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net>,
Martien Verbruggen <mgjv@comdyn.com.au> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 01:36:48 -0400,
> Elaine -HFB- Ashton <elaine@chaos.wustl.edu> wrote:
>> Martien Verbruggen wrote:
>> > Celine Dion is not nearly as entertaining as whinges about bas Usenet
>> > etiquette! It's not a fair comparison.
>>
>> My own personal version of hell is hearing her sing for eternity. Erk,
>> she makes me wretch. TAKE HER BACK OH CANADA! :) Listen to that darn
>> Titanic theme song for 24 hours and I'll bet you'll think that you, too,
>> have glimpsed hell.
>
>I hope you're not speaking from experience.. 24 hours... *shudder*
About 2 years ago I completely undid a cow-orker when I was playing
a tape that included 24 variations of a song titled 'Fly me to the Moon'.
I wasn't paying attention while cranking code and it played continuously
for more than 8 hours....He still hasn't forgiven me for that.
--
Benjamin Franz
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 09:41:28 GMT
From: *@dragons.duesouth.net (Matthew Bafford)
Subject: Re: To Abigail re: reading current threads
Message-Id: <slrn7vm4m4.4k2.*@dragons.duesouth.net>
On Wed, 06 Oct 1999 00:42:37 GMT, "George Jempty" <jb4mt@verbatims.com>
enriched us with:
: [..snip..]
: Sure, I've violated all sorts of protocol with
: this thread, but I sometimes do that just to get a reaction.
: [..snip..]
: so I decided to get everybody riled up.
: [..snip..]
So you were trolling.
It's going to be difficult for you to participate in the group with
everyone ignoring you.
: Now that
: I've succeeded, I think I'll just program my web pages with PHP in the
: future!
Bye.
--Matthew
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Date: 16 Sep 99 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Users-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
Subject: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 16 Sep 99)
Message-Id: <null>
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