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Perl-Users Digest           Tue, 14 Sep 1999     Volume: 9 Number: 798

Today's topics:
    Re: ATTN: Who would like to write a perl IDE for linux (Kai Henningsen)
    Re: ceiling a decimal number <agray@infoscience.otago.ac.nz>
    Re: CGI Hosting? <chris@aztecone.com>
    Re: challenge results (Abigail)
        Closing a pipeline before the command is done (Larry Martell)
    Re: Design Advice needed on Sending Data to Client caitlynhay@my-deja.com
        Filter::decrypt assistance required. <karl@bofh.com.au>
    Re: Forcing Variable interpolation of string read from  (Peter McMorran)
    Re: Forcing Variable interpolation of string read from  <ubu@easynet.ca>
    Re: Help - Porting code from UNIX to NT <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
    Re: Help with compiling a list (Martien Verbruggen)
    Re: Help! Need to check tram@olympic.seas.ucla.edu
    Re: Help! Need to check <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
    Re: Help! Need to check (Larry Rosler)
        Help!! Newbie question <1234@567.890>
    Re: Help!! Newbie question <makkulka@cisco.com>
    Re: Help!! Newbie question <dove@synopsys.com>
    Re: IRC CONNECT <karl@bofh.com.au>
        is this object a child of this class? buddachile@yahoo.com
    Re: is this object a child of this class? <makkulka@cisco.com>
    Re: is this object a child of this class? (Kragen Sitaker)
        Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 1 Jul 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: 15 Sep 1999 00:42:00 +0200
From: kaih=7Ow6vDCXw-B@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen)
Subject: Re: ATTN: Who would like to write a perl IDE for linux
Message-Id: <7Ow6vDCXw-B@khms.westfalen.de>

abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)  wrote on 13.09.99 in <slrn7tr87j.f00.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>:

> Tom Christiansen (tchrist@mox.perl.com) wrote on MMCCIV September
> MCMXCIII in <URL:news:37dd1c76@cs.colorado.edu>:
> ``      [courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
> ``
> `` In comp.lang.perl.misc,
> ``     nathan@bigfreakinserver.com writes:
> `` :I plan to develop a IDE for perl.
> ``
> `` In short, Unix types are seldom interested in a new "IDE".
>
>
> Well, he said "Linux". And while Linux in most, if not all, respects is
> a Unix, it has large flocks of users that certainly aren't Unix types.
> There are way too many "I like Windoze, but I don't like Microsoft, so
> I use Linux, but still complain it doesn't look and feel like Windoze"
> type people in the Linux world.
>
>
>
> Abigail, on a GUI-free Linux.

Where's this idea from that IDE == GUI? It's just not true.

Now, you can do an IDE intelligently, or you can do it dumb. Intelligent  
is the version where the IDE is just a shell for the stuff you already  
have (that is, "build" calls "make", it may have a way to generate  
makefiles but is happy to use existing ones, and so on).

Kai
-- 
http://www.westfalen.de/private/khms/
"... by God I *KNOW* what this network is for, and you can't have it."
  - Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)


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Date: 15 Sep 1999 12:39:17 +1200
From: Andrew Gray <agray@infoscience.otago.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: ceiling a decimal number
Message-Id: <ud7vlf1oq.fsf@infoscience.otago.ac.nz>

dVoon <dvoon@my-deja.com> writes:
> How to take the 'ceiling' of a decimal number in Perl?
> I'm using the latest ActivePerl and have looked around the
> documentation but still unable to find any function/operation that
> does that. Please help. Thanks.

"perldoc -q ceil" will return an appropriate answer from perlfaq4
using the POSIX module function ceil().  Your other option would be to
add 0.5 and take the int ("perldoc -f int"), assuming you are only
working with positive values.  In cases of rounding values you may
want to explicitly control the behaviour to ensure that it does what
you think it does, and writing your own function can be helpful in
achieving that.

Cheers,
Andrew



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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:20:29 GMT
From: "AztecOne / Chris" <chris@aztecone.com>
Subject: Re: CGI Hosting?
Message-Id: <hDBD3.17996$VR.109267@newse3.tampabay.rr.com>


_mDe_ wrote in message <7rm2te$e4d$1@news.news-service.com>...
>Is there a free webspace provider with cgi support without all the banners
>and popups?
>mDe
>
>
We have not free, but cheap.

Chris
www.pagesusa.com





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Date: 14 Sep 1999 19:21:39 -0500
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Subject: Re: challenge results
Message-Id: <slrn7ttppk.gcd.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>

Matthew Bafford (*@dragons.duesouth.net) wrote on MMCCV September
MCMXCIII in <URL:news:slrn7ttgbb.38u.*@dragons.duesouth.net>:
~~ On 14 Sep 1999 21:22:55 GMT, Colin R. DeVilbiss <crdevilb@mtu.edu>
~~ spewed forth: 
~~ : Matthew Bafford <*@dragons.duesouth.net> wrote:
~~ : > perl -pe 'BEGIN{$/=\1}$_=rand>.5?uc:lc'
~~ :   perl -pe '      $/=\1;$_=rand>.5?uc:lc'
~~ : is less elegant, but pretty darn short.
~~ 
~~ It may be elegant, but it doesn't work. :-)

But this one beats the correct one with one byte:

       perl -pe'INIT{$/=\1}$_=rand>.5?uc:lc'




Abigail
-- 
perl5.004 -wMMath::BigInt -e'$^V=Math::BigInt->new(qq]$^F$^W783$[$%9889$^F47]
 .qq]$|88768$^W596577669$%$^W5$^F3364$[$^W$^F$|838747$[8889739$%$|$^F673$%$^W]
 .qq]98$^F76777$=56]);$^U=substr($]=>$|=>5)*(q.25..($^W=@^V))=>do{print+chr$^V
%$^U;$^V/=$^U}while$^V!=$^W'


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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:20:58 GMT
From: larrym@imsi.com (Larry Martell)
Subject: Closing a pipeline before the command is done
Message-Id: <7rmop3$s46@titan.imsi.com>

I have a script that opens a pipeline, and then when it sees a specific string
it's done with the output of that command. It does some processing, and
then issues another command. When it see the string that signals it's done
the command is not completed, but I don't care about the rest of the output.

Initially I issued a close(PIPE) when I saw the string, but that hung. I
then captured the pid of the command and sent it a SIGKILL when I was done.
That worked as far as my script was concerned, but when it exited I found that
I had all these invocations of the command still hanging around.  (It issues
many of them.)

I found that 2 processes actually get started, and I only get back the pid of 
the parent. I kill that, but the child stays around forever.

For example, if I issue the statement:

$pid = open(TICK, "mycmd |");

and I do a ps I see:

larrym    3462  0.0  1.3 1540  744 p0 S    19:36   0:00 mycmd
larrym    3461  0.0  0.0   28    0 p0 IW   19:36   0:00 sh -c mycmd

The pid I get back is 3461, which does go away when I send the kill, but
3462 does not. As I said, even after the script exits, 3462 is still around.

Is there a clean way I get get rid of these processes? I can't really do a
ps and grep for them because there may be other invocations running that are
not mine that I don't want to kill.

TIA,
larry






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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:10:46 GMT
From: caitlynhay@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Design Advice needed on Sending Data to Client
Message-Id: <7rmkld$9hp$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

Alan,

This is the 3rd time I'm trying to post this.  I'm having some problem
with the news server.  Anyways...

The reason I chose http is bec. that's the only way I know besides
ftp.  I can't use ftp because the object to transfer is a dynamic
array, and it causes too many problems to save the dynamic array to a
temp file.  So, the ftp option is gone.  I would like to stick to the
standard, so as to make the life my client developers easier.  Http
looks like an option.

So far, I have written a server script which writes the array to the
response object line by line via a html/text stream.  I notice the
problem with this method is that the client cannot proceed until the
response object is fully constructed at the client side.  This can
become a problem when the array size is large.  I'm not sure if this is
a problem with my test client program (VC++ and VB) though.

What protocols are all those stock programs using to get historical
data from the quote servers?  That's basically what I have to do.  So,
is http the choice or not?

TIA
cait



In article <FDbD3.8333$N77.652041@typ11.nn.bcandid.com>,
  pacman@defiant.cqc.com (Alan Curry) wrote:
> In article <5w6D3.7538$N77.609667@typ11.nn.bcandid.com>,
> Kragen Sitaker <kragen@dnaco.net> wrote:
> >In article <QVgC3.2461$x7.56225409@nr1.ottawa.istar.net>,
> >Caitlyn Hay <caithay@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>What is the standard way of doing this?
> >
> >Using HTTP, which includes several increasingly awful, but
> >well-supported, ways of solving the problems you mention.
>
> There are other things in the universe besides HTTP. For text
transfers,
> there is the good old "end with dot on a line by itself, and double
initial
> dots in the data" method used by SMTP and NNTP.
>
> SMTP and FTP has multi-line replies that look like
> 250-line 1
> 250-line 2
> 250 last line has no hyphen
>
> FTP transfers use a separate data connection which is usually closed
to
> indicate an EOF. But it doesn't have to be - MODE B allows for
persistent
> data connections. It's much like HTTP chunked mode, actually. I don't
know
> why most servers don't implement it.
>
> Sorry for the detour, I know the original poster asked about HTTP but
I can't
> tell from the context whether she really _wanted_ to use HTTP, or
just hadn't
> thought about other ways to design a text-transfer protocol.
>
> >See the HTTP/1.1 definition:
> >http://www.normos.org/ietf/rfc/rfc2068.txt
>
> RFC2616 obsoletes 2068 (and no I don't know what the differences are,
I just
> happen to have 2616 nearby)
> --
> Alan Curry    |Declaration of   | _../\. ./\.._     ____.    ____.
> pacman@cqc.com|bigotries (should| [    | |    ]    /    _>  /    _>
> --------------+save some time): |  \__/   \__/     \___:    \___:
>  Linux,vim,trn,GPL,zsh,qmail,^H | "Screw you guys, I'm going home" --
Cartman
>


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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:48:06 +1000
From: Karl Hanmore <karl@bofh.com.au>
Subject: Filter::decrypt assistance required.
Message-Id: <37DEECC6.DB57333F@bofh.com.au>

Good Day,
I am interested in learning to make use of the Filter::decrypt module,
but can find no "simple" documentation on it.  I am fairly well versed
in perl in general, but this is proving a major stumbling block for me.
Answers via email would be greatly appreciated.  Any pointers or tips
gladly accepted.

Regards,
Karl




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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 20:12:00 -0400
From: mcmorran@norfolk.infi.net (Peter McMorran)
Subject: Re: Forcing Variable interpolation of string read from a file - How?
Message-Id: <37dee541$1$zpzbeena$mr2ice@news.norfolk.infi.net>

In <37dec306@cs.colorado.edu>, on 09/14/99 
   at 03:49 PM, Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com> said:

>     [courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]

>In comp.lang.perl.misc, 
>    matthias.schwarze@wiesbaden.netsurf.de writes:
>:I don't think that the direct interpolation (if possible at all?!) is
>:advisable.

>What I want to understand is why this question *NEVER* comes up
>amongst C programmers, but the Perl neophytes seem to ask it as
>often as rises the sun.  Perhaps it's some issue of mismatched
>mental models.

>--tom

Tom,

It may be by analogy with csh, in which you can source another
file that references and even modifies shell variables in the
current script. This is an easy way to make scripts portable
across platforms. Someone wishing to use perl as a (very)
enhanced script language might look for such a feature.

Cheers,
Peter

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
mcmorran@norfolk.infi.net (Peter McMorran)
-----------------------------------------------------------



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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:33:08 GMT
From: Ubu <ubu@easynet.ca>
To: rdicke@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Forcing Variable interpolation of string read from a file - How?
Message-Id: <7rmpg4$d3k$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

In article <37DEA2E3.F01F2720@wirespeednetworks.com>,
  Ronald Dicke <rdicke@wirespeednetworks.com> wrote:
> If I have a file which contains the following line:
> Have a nice day, $name
> and I read this file using a perl script which has the variable $name
> defined, how can I force the
> interpolation of that variable in the string just read from the file,
so
> that is $today = "Genius" the result would be:
> Have a nice day, Genius
>
You're not that specific about whether you want to have multiple
substitutions, etc., but you can probably get the idea of what you want
to do from the following:
(Assuming test.text contains the input line)

$name="Genius";
open IN,"<test.txt" or die $!;
while(<IN>)
{
  s/\$name/$name/g; # Notice you have to escape the $ in the pattern
  print;
}
close IN;

Hope this helps, let me know if it's unclear what it's doing.

Barry



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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:52:51 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: Help - Porting code from UNIX to NT
Message-Id: <37DEDFD3.A3F3B826@mail.cor.epa.gov>

[The extinct newsgroup comp.lang.perl removed from headers
out of respect for the dead...]

Heiko Marschall wrote:
> 
> NT doesn´t use the first line for getting the executing compiler.
> So you can delete the first line. The problem is that you have to name
> the extension of the script
> with ".pl" - because NT knows which compiler to use from the file
> extension !

I would recommend *leaving* that first line there.  Perl uses
that line to snag command-line options like -w.  It enhances
portability when going back to unices.  And don't some configs
of Apache still need the path to Perl given correctly on that
first line?

And NT [along with the webserver] only knows what to do with
the file extension after some careful explanation.  If you're
lucky, ActiveState got it all done for you.  If not, prepare
to start reading the documentation.

David
-- 
David Cassell, OAO                     cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician


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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:04:00 GMT
From: mgjv@comdyn.com.au (Martien Verbruggen)
Subject: Re: Help with compiling a list
Message-Id: <QnBD3.110$LN1.4551@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net>

In article <7rlp5d$mah$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
	jsilve1@my-deja.com writes:

> How could I have a person with more than one group be listed as having
> more than one group, without having multiple entries for that person in
> the database?

You did ask about the database, not code, so:

Traditional relational database.

PersonTable   maps many-to-many to GroupTable

PersonTable:
id - lastName - firstName - email

GroupTable
id - groupName

PersonGroupMapTable
personId - GroupId

In code you could do this in many, many ways. You could map the above
relational table structure into an OO approach. You could create an
anonymous hash for each person, each group, and store the references,
instead of the actual arrays (that's the equivalent of the mapping
table).

In general, the underlying design of your data structure should work
with references (or id's, keys, depending on what you use), and the
items that map many-to-many should be separated out in their own
structures.

Martien
-- 
Martien Verbruggen                  | 
Interactive Media Division          | 
Commercial Dynamics Pty. Ltd.       | Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.
NSW, Australia                      | 


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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:41:30 GMT
From: tram@olympic.seas.ucla.edu
Subject: Re: Help! Need to check
Message-Id: <37dedcdc.30194930@172.16.10.50>


#!/usr/local/bin/perl

srand;

print "perl program\n";
@new = ();
@old = 1 .. 51;  # just a demo
while (@old)
{
  push(@new, splice(@old, rand @old, 1));
}

for ($i=1; $i<7; $i++)
{
  print "number: $new[$i]\n";
}

On Mon, 16 Aug 1999 12:04:20 -0600, Tim <bie@connect.ab.ca> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>
>I want to make a lotto kind of game. I want to choose 6 different
>numbers from 1-49. The random numbers part is ez, but how do I make it
>so no number repeats? (Every number is different)
>
>I could do a lot of if statements, but there has to be a better way.
>
>
>
>Tim



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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:04:17 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: Help! Need to check
Message-Id: <37DEE281.12239079@mail.cor.epa.gov>

[Note: poster has placed his/her text *before* the querent's
post, instead of *after*, as humans normally converse.. and
as is standard in Usenet]

tram@olympic.seas.ucla.edu wrote:
> 
> #!/usr/local/bin/perl

You're missing the -w flag.
And 'use strict;'
 
> srand;

Unnecessary if version >= 5.004 ; a better seed would be
a nice idea if version <= 5.003 .
 
> print "perl program\n";

Why?

> @new = ();

  my new;

> @old = 1 .. 51;  # just a demo

  my @old = 0 .. 51;

Why are you starting arrays at 1 instead of 0 ?

> while (@old)
> {
>   push(@new, splice(@old, rand @old, 1));
> }

Sub-optimal, as already discussed at length in this thread.
And you forgot to stick an int() in front of your rand() .
 
> for ($i=1; $i<7; $i++)
> {
>   print "number: $new[$i]\n";
> }

Suboptimal way to snatch 6 elements from @new .  And you
failed to start at 0 again.

I appreciate your attempt to help, but could you:
[1] adhere to newsgroup standards;
[2] post tested, correct code; and
[3] not post answers previously dissed in the same thread?

Thanks in advance,
David
-- 
David Cassell, OAO                     cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician


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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:35:23 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: Help! Need to check
Message-Id: <MPG.124889a76f92d769989f64@nntp.hpl.hp.com>

In article <37DEE281.12239079@mail.cor.epa.gov> on Tue, 14 Sep 1999 
17:04:17 -0700, David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov> says...
> tram@olympic.seas.ucla.edu wrote:
 ...
> > while (@old)
> > {
> >   push(@new, splice(@old, rand @old, 1));
> > }
> 
> Sub-optimal, as already discussed at length in this thread.
> And you forgot to stick an int() in front of your rand() .

That doesn't matter.  Whenever a built-in function expects an integer 
argument such as an array index or a string offset, perl converts 
implicitly to integer.
 
> > for ($i=1; $i<7; $i++)
> > {
> >   print "number: $new[$i]\n";
> > }
> 
> Suboptimal way to snatch 6 elements from @new .  And you
> failed to start at 0 again.

As they are random elements, it hardly matters which six are chosen.
:-)

-- 
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com


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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:56:39 -0700
From: "011100100111" <1234@567.890>
Subject: Help!! Newbie question
Message-Id: <7rmjt5$kae$1@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>

    I have a script that i'm sure is fairly simple.I have a script that I
can not figure out. It's a simple mail handling script that processes the
form and the mails a thank you and prints out a return page. I have tried to
debug it but I can't figure out what is wrong, and I'm sure it is just due
to my huge lack of inexperience as a Perl coder.
If you can, please help me out. the script is posted at
http://home.tripod.com/~tescriva/perlprob.html





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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:45:35 -0700
From: Makarand Kulkarni <makkulka@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: Help!! Newbie question
Message-Id: <37DEDE1F.850CEDE4@cisco.com>

[011100100111 wrote:

> If you can, please help me out. the script is posted at
> http://home.tripod.com/~tescriva/perlprob.html

This URL is unreachable. Atleast from my machine. Post
the code here and state clearly what is going wrong.
==





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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 17:38:00 -0700
From: David Amann <dove@synopsys.com>
Subject: Re: Help!! Newbie question
Message-Id: <37DEEA68.E9B654D5@synopsys.com>

Hi,

Try this.

-=dav


#!/usr/local/bin/perl
# sendmail.cgi
# Libraries Needed

use CGI qw/:standard :html3 :netscape/;
use CGI::Carp qw(fatalsToBrowser carpout);

&send_mail;
&print_confirmation;

sub print_confirmation {

    my $url = "http://www.myserver.com/response.html"
                #HTML page of response
    print "Location: $url\n\n"

}

sub send_mail {

    my $SENDER = "me"; #My email name
    my $MAILCOMMAND = "/usr/lib/sendmail $SENDER";
    open(MAIL, "|$MAILCOMMAND");

    my $guest = param('email');  # Or however you get the email
                                 # address of your guest
    print MAIL "To: $guest\n";
    print MAIL "From: $SENDER\@myserver.com\n";
    print MAIL "Subject: Thank you\n\n";

    print MAIL "Thank you for signing guestbook\n";

}



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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:25:03 +1000
From: Karl Hanmore <karl@bofh.com.au>
Subject: Re: IRC CONNECT
Message-Id: <37DEE75F.61B52685@bofh.com.au>

Webmaster wrote:

Have a look for a program called "sirc"  Its a perl based IRC client.

Regards,
Karl


> Does anyone of you know a perl script or someway to connect to a irc server
> from perl???
>
> Thx
>
> Gastón Gorosterrazú
> webmaster@compre-ya.com
> http://www.compre-ya.com



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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:33:43 GMT
From: buddachile@yahoo.com
Subject: is this object a child of this class?
Message-Id: <7rmm0n$ag1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

how can i test if an object is a child of a particular class in Perl?

- marcos alves


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Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 16:47:42 -0700
From: Makarand Kulkarni <makkulka@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: is this object a child of this class?
Message-Id: <37DEDE9E.C8E752D0@cisco.com>

[ buddachile@yahoo.com wrote:

> how can i test if an object is a child of a particular class in Perl?

Use ref().
If the referenced object has been blessed into a package, then that
package
name is returned instead.
perldoc -f ref
==



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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:15:51 GMT
From: kragen@dnaco.net (Kragen Sitaker)
Subject: Re: is this object a child of this class?
Message-Id: <XyBD3.11213$N77.850179@typ11.nn.bcandid.com>

In article <7rmm0n$ag1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <buddachile@yahoo.com> wrote:
>how can i test if an object is a child of a particular class in Perl?

If you want to know if it's a member of that class, use ref ($obj) eq
$classname.  If you want to know whether it's a member of that class or
one of its descendants, use $obj->isa($classname).  The latter is
better if you don't know which you need.

Kragen

-- 
<kragen@pobox.com>       Kragen Sitaker     <http://www.pobox.com/~kragen/>
Tue Sep 14 1999
55 days until the Internet stock bubble bursts on Monday, 1999-11-08.
<URL:http://www.pobox.com/~kragen/bubble.html>


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