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Sun Aug 22 22:07:18 1999
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:05:06 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest Sun, 22 Aug 1999 Volume: 9 Number: 617
Today's topics:
Re: A reference to a number <perin@panix.com>
Bizarre inconsistency perfectbeat@my-deja.com
Bizarre inconsistency perfectbeat@my-deja.com
Re: Date::Calc version in Perl? (TheEadsNet)
Re: Looking for able Perl Programmer in Fargo, ND <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Re: new to perl and a bit stupid <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Re: Perl Email With Netscape <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Perl executablles (Derek)
Re: recovering the query string while using CGI.pm <jeff@vpservices.com>
Re: Request for Comments: www.perl.com <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Running PERL script on win98 <webhead@columbus.rr.com>
Re: Shell vs Perl <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Re: Testing <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Re: thanks for nothing everybody <watterss@pilot.msu.edu>
Re: thanks for nothing everybody (elephant)
Re: use of flock()... <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Re: vacation doesn't work with domain name. Alternative <webmaster@chatbase.com>
Re: What are valid characters in hash keys <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Re: What are valid characters in hash keys (Sam Holden)
Re: Why $|++ (was: Re: perl system()) <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Re: Why use Python when we've got Perl? <bill@fccj.org>
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 1 Jul 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: 22 Aug 1999 18:08:47 -0400
From: Lewis Perin <perin@panix.com>
Subject: Re: A reference to a number
Message-Id: <pc7u2prwjrk.fsf@panix6.panix.com>
websites@erols.com (Irwin Feuerstein) writes:
>
> On 22 Aug 1999 11:08:42 -0400, Lewis Perin <perin@panix.com> wrote:
>
> >websites@erols.com (Irwin Feuerstein) writes:
> >
> >> In the brief tutorial to references and objects it says that sometimes
> >> you want to construct a reference to a string, or to a number, instead
> >> of a named variable. Why would you want to do that? What advantages do
> >> you get?
> >
> >You might want a constant:
> >
> > [lew@prez lew]$ perl -e "my \$pi = \\3.14; print \"\$\$pi\n\";"
> > 3.14
> >
> >(Note that away from the command line you won't need to quote the
> >dollar signs, backslashes and quotes.)
>
> Why is that better than just using a constant from the beginning? That
> way you eliminate the "my ...3.14".
Sorry I left the impression that I thought it was necessarily better,
though a case could be made for restricting the scope of a constant
for the sake of program clarity.
For a global constant you could use the technique in perlmod:
$ perl -we '*PI = \3.14; print "$PI\n"'
3.14
Cheers, Lew
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:36:00 GMT
From: perfectbeat@my-deja.com
Subject: Bizarre inconsistency
Message-Id: <7pq1gv$3i$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
The following will not work:
open (NR_NEW_RELEASES, ">./Html/new_releases/
nr$old_date_fields[0]\.html")
where
local(@old_date_fields) = split(/\|/
,$previous_date);
Output of the following code confirms that
$old_date_fields[0] is however a valid number:
print “$old_date_fields[0]”;
(returns "990808")
I have used the $old_date_fields[0] variable in
other parts of my program and it behaves quite
fine. What could be different about using it in a
filehandle?????
Anthony
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:35:58 GMT
From: perfectbeat@my-deja.com
Subject: Bizarre inconsistency
Message-Id: <7pq1gt$3h$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
The following will not work:
open (NR_NEW_RELEASES, ">./Html/new_releases/
nr$old_date_fields[0]\.html")
where
local(@old_date_fields) = split(/\|/
,$previous_date);
Output of the following code confirms that
$old_date_fields[0] is however a valid number:
print “$old_date_fields[0]”;
(returns "990808")
I have used the $old_date_fields[0] variable in
other parts of my program and it behaves quite
fine. What could be different about using it in a
filehandle?????
Anthony
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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Date: 23 Aug 1999 01:27:14 GMT
From: theeadsnet@aol.com (TheEadsNet)
Subject: Re: Date::Calc version in Perl?
Message-Id: <19990822212714.23598.00003015@ng-fs1.aol.com>
Dear Per Kistler,
If you receive a reply to your question on Date::Calc, I would GREATLY
appreciate a forward to my address:
TheEadsNet@aol.com.
Much thanks!!
-Joe
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:55:29 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: Looking for able Perl Programmer in Fargo, ND
Message-Id: <37C07FE1.E46FF2D8@mail.cor.epa.gov>
k.c. hemelstrand wrote:
>
> We are looking for perl programmer with system admin abilities.
>
> We operate www.avsupport.com and www.fargocity.com.
>
> If interested. please reply or call K.C. Hemelstrand at 701-271-9111
>
> More info available at http://www.partslogistics.com/Employment.shtml
Hey, I saw "Fargo". I'm not even visiting until you get that
chipper-shredder out of your backyard.
But seriously, folks. This is not the right newsgroup for
job postings. Doesn't your newsfeed carry anything with the
letters 'jobs' in it?
HAND,
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:51:59 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: new to perl and a bit stupid
Message-Id: <37C07F0F.2A7AB0E5@mail.cor.epa.gov>
toby wrote:
[attributions snipped, but the reply os from Tim Greer]
> > > open FILEHANDLE , "filename" || die;
> > ^^
> > You'll probably want to use an "or", rather then the "||" (logical or)
> > there.
> Why? Of course, you could use just:
>
> open(FHAND, "filename") or die "$!";
>
> But it is more readable not necessarily better. Perl's || and && are just
> fine in this case and better than C's. You get the last value evaluated,
> rather than an enigmatic 0 or 1. If you say that someone would be better
> off doing it a different way, give them a reason to evaluate and then
> determine if that is their best course of action. Just telling them
> "You'll probably want to use an 'or', rather then the '||' (logical or)
> there" is short-stroking.
Well then, why didn't you explain it? The poster had
a precedence error which is fixed in your example. But
open FILEHANDLE , "filename" || die;
parses as:
open FILEHANDLE , ("filename" || die);
instead of:
open (FILEHANDLE , "filename") || die;
as the original poster intended [I hope]. Tim was just
trying to help.
HTH,
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:15:01 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: Perl Email With Netscape
Message-Id: <37C08475.544C51A@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Jimmy Humphrey wrote:
[improperly-located quote moved to *before* reply]
> Abigail wrote:
> > Jimmy Humphrey (jimmy@blackhole-designs.com) wrote on MMCLXXXII September
> > MCMXCIII in <URL:news:37BFF5AF.ADA4EB95@blackhole-designs.com>:
> > ## I was wondering if it is possible to send e-mail in Netscape 4.6 with a
> > ## random quotes using perl 518 (windows perl) acting as the signature
> > ## file.
> >
> > And your Perl question is?
> My question was how I could use perl to randomly generate quotes for my netscape
> e-mail in the signature file.
Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. I believe you missed Abigail's point.
The point was that the ability to do such a thing is dependent
on the flexibility of the newsreader, so this is really a
Netscape/news question. Not a Perl question.
If you come back and say:
[1] I researched this, and the file used for the .sig can be
a pipe to a program;
[2] I tried writing this myself and got to here, but I got
the following error, so I need some programming advice;
and
[3] I promise I will put my replies *after* the words I am
replying to, as per standard Usenet protocol;
then you can expect some help in this ng. But don't
expect that the cranky denizens herein will write you a
free script.
HTH,
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:57:13 +1000
From: nospam-derek@realware.com.au (Derek)
Subject: Perl executablles
Message-Id: <MPG.122b4777f526d6e0989685@news.hutch.com.au>
Hi all,
I would like to compile a number of perl scripts in to a number of EXE's to be
run on a DOS based system (Win95/98 NT command window).
I have a number of utils that I want to be able to send to clients but I don't
want to have to have them install Perl (they would get them selves in to
trouble) and I don't want any one to mess with the code of the utils, it would
get them in to more trouble.
Does anyone know if there is a product out there that will do what I need. I
have looked at active perl but though they have this PerlEx product that is not
what I need at all.
Regards
Derek
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Date: 22 Aug 1999 23:16:33 GMT
From: Jeff Zucker <jeff@vpservices.com>
Subject: Re: recovering the query string while using CGI.pm
Message-Id: <37C083DD.9FBD1373@vpservices.com>
Patrick Timmins wrote:
>
> In article <7pkfhc$d7s$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> gmahler@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > Is there a function in CGI.pm which returns the
> > query string passed to the perl program? I'm
> > looking to do this
> >
> > use CGI(:standard);
> >
> > $query_string = (function I need to return query string);
>
> No. This simply can't be done with CGI.pm
Say what??? The original poster had the "use" syntax a bit off, but
certainly the query string can be gotten easily with CGI.pm. This code
prints "[x=y&j=k]" when called from a browser as "test.cgi?x=y&j=k" or
when called from the command line as "test.cgi x=y&j=k".
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -wT
use strict;
use CGI qw(:standard);
my $x = query_string() || '';
print header, "[$x]";
From _Official_Guide_to_Programming_with_CGI.pm, page 224.
"query_string() ... returns the raw, unprocessed, query string from the
current Web request."
--
Jeff
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:48:07 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
To: Alan Barclay <gorilla@elaine.drink.com>
Subject: Re: Request for Comments: www.perl.com
Message-Id: <37C07E27.78986257@mail.cor.epa.gov>
[courtesy cc sent via e-mail]
Alan Barclay wrote:
[snip]
> This is a form letter I send off to several websites a week.
Thank you. I'm glad *someone* is making a concerted effort
in this regard.
> >>Please make your website more accessable for blind users.
[more snippage]
> >> As you can see, your webpage isn't readable when used in this way.
> >>
> >> Enababling pages for Lynx doesn't neccessarily mean a lot of extra
^^^^^^^^^^
s/Enababling/Enabling/;
Just thought you'd want to know you had a typo in your form
letter.
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 21:43:09 -0400
From: Brian Enderle <webhead@columbus.rr.com>
Subject: Running PERL script on win98
Message-Id: <37C0A72D.F2413ADB@columbus.rr.com>
Can anyone tell me how or where to find info on running PERL scripts
from my Win98 machine at home? I am learning PERL and do not want to
always be connected to my FTP.
Thanks,
Brian
PS: please respond to my e-mail as I don't check this very often.
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:59:03 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: Shell vs Perl
Message-Id: <37C080B7.5CF75909@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Alan Barclay wrote:
>
> In article <7pkh1j$e79$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, <kcounts@my-deja.com> wrote:
> >The system administrator at my workplace doesn't believe
> >that a Perl program can be written to mimic the functionality of the
> >below shell script and still keep as simple as the shell script.
>
> Maybe not. Nothing wrong with using shell scripts for things which
> are easy in shell. However there are many problems which are very
> very complex to do in shell script and very easy to do in Perl.
> There are far fewer problems which are easy in shell and complex
> in Perl.
I agree. But still, how do you need a page and a half to write
this code? Even badly? Is the sysadmin writing his own sort
subroutines?
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:07:48 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: Testing
Message-Id: <37C082C4.F5AFD1B@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Abigail wrote:
>
> ¶ÂªL¶w (stupid@people.comos) wrote on MMCLXX September MCMXCIII in
^^^^^^
-------->
> <URL:news:7oocih$5f2$1@justice.csc.cuhk.edu.hk>:
> .. Testing only
>
> *ploink*
Are you sure he wasn't just attempting the self-fulfilling
prophecy?
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:47:22 -0400
From: "Shannon Watters" <watterss@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Re: thanks for nothing everybody
Message-Id: <7pq2af$jfb$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>
Stuart Slaugh <ohyeahh@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:37c14bec.8572177@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
>
> See my post on perldoc...sometimes the documentation is as obtuse as
> the problem...sorry, we're not all intuitive computer scientists...if
> stupid questions are so stressful for some of you, well...as Frank
> Zappa once said, it's not getting any smarter out there. What did you
> expect? Platonic dialectics? It seems as if some of the Initiated are
> getting revenge for all the times they were referred to as Geeks in
> high school, and now they trot out their world-weary superiority as an
> identity...I'm perfectly aware that lazy fools do in fact abuse this
> service and need to be 'educated' as to protocol...but nit-picking
> character assasination will not solve this problem, because the
> Clueless will be ever thus...they cannot be insulted, and they will
> continue to do stupid things regardless...so all you accomplish is the
> elevation of your own stress level, and the humiliation of many who
> don't deserve it. If this is so painful, why do you participate ? I
> think that in SOME, but certainly not ALL cases, this posturing is an
> ego thing...the supposed frustration with newbies is really both
> necessary and a guilty pleasure for those with fragile egos and
> self-esteem issues...
Who the hell are you to call anybody a geek? How do you know anybody here
was called a geek in high school? Now I'm going to make a great
psychological profile of you Stuart. Maybe your whole world view is based
on bad after school specials on television and that's why you've resorted to
a typically uneducated stereotype like that. Then again, maybe you're just
a prick.
I know I will get a bunch of emails about what is and isn't supposed to be
posted here but I've been reading these groups for a few weeks now and I
just can't sit back and let this shit slide by anymore.
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Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:13:00 +1000
From: elephant@squirrelgroup.com (elephant)
Subject: Re: thanks for nothing everybody
Message-Id: <MPG.122b3d0058e25850989c6f@news-server>
Shannon Watters writes ..
>I know I will get a bunch of emails about what is and isn't supposed to be
>posted here but I've been reading these groups for a few weeks now and I
>just can't sit back and let this shit slide by anymore.
just plonk him like the rest of us have .. this is the irony of his
situation - the people who he's trying to annoy/abuse/reprimand aren't
reading what he's writing
--
jason - elephant@squirrelgroup.com -
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:06:41 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: use of flock()...
Message-Id: <37C08281.4BCA1F3E@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Kevin Alexander wrote:
>
> I am writing a program that has a data file that needs some protection from
> multiple accesses occurring at the same time.
>
> The question is: Is flock() needed for NT based machines? If it isn't, will
> it error out if flock() is used?
flock() is needed in this case, unless only reads are being done
and there is no risk of file corruption. NT does file locking,
and Perl's flock() work on NT. But don't expect that you'll be
able to do flock() on win9x .
> I suppose a better way of asking the question is: If I use flock() on an NT
> machine, will it give me an error? -- ASSUMING I USE IT CORRECTLY :)
Given your assumption, no.
> My PERL book doesn't touch flock().
Then get a better book. Or even better, read the extensive docs
which come for free with your Perl install. Try these commands:
perldoc -f flock
perldoc -f fcntl
perldoc Fcntl
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:11:18 -0700
From: TRG Software: Tim Greer <webmaster@chatbase.com>
Subject: Re: vacation doesn't work with domain name. Alternative in Perl?
Message-Id: <37C07586.1BCCC9E0@chatbase.com>
Neil wrote:
>
> > And your Perl question is?
>
> Abigail, I do mention in my Subject line and in the question, that
> I'm looking for suggestions regarding an alternative to the vacation
> utility in Perl. To ask for a Perl script recommendation is a Perl question.
>
> Neil
Wrong, this isn't a wish list for programs to be written in Perl, or
where to find one that's existant. People posting questions like "Where
can I find a web poll script?" and "Does anyone know if there's a _fill
in the blank_ script?", or "Does anyone know of a perl script that acts
like a __fill in another blank__?", could easily take over the NG, which
as you can guess, doesn't go far in helping others with the language,
answering anyone's questions, or offering a suggestion to better the
Perl community.
Further, why did you think procmail had anything to do with Perl and ask
if someone here knows how to use it in such a manner? I'm sure there are
many, it's a simple task, but this isn't the place to ask about it. It's
sort of a detailed explanation of why such questions aren't Perl related
in this regard, but believe me when I tell you they aren't. When you
learn more about Perl and more about what this NG is for, and the
purpose/meaning of this NG, then you'll understand what people are
saying and why those sort of questions don't belong here in this NG.
Thanks for understanding. :-)
--
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:45:15 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: What are valid characters in hash keys
Message-Id: <37C07D7B.3FA9C66D@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Larry Rosler wrote:
>
> In article <37BDC174.E4E3132F@cajunbro.com> on Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:58:28
> +0000, Mark McCoy <mcking@cajunbro.com> says...
> > Roger Musson wrote:
> > >
> > > $hash{key}='some_value';
> > >
> > > What are the valid characters for 'key'
[snip]
> There are no reserved characters.
Any string? Any string at all? Wow. What happens when you
work with a hash like this:
my %trayf = ('one' => 'foo',
'[]' => 'bar',
'()' => 'baz');
I tried something similar [note: only similar, not exact]
on win98 and it hung the system way past the three-finger
salute. [So I lost the original, and I'm not feeling like
trying this again.]
Of course, I did have Microsoft and Netscape products
running at the time, so the cause could be elsewhere. :-)
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: 23 Aug 1999 00:43:11 GMT
From: sholden@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au (Sam Holden)
Subject: Re: What are valid characters in hash keys
Message-Id: <slrn7s16a3.o68.sholden@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au>
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:45:15 -0700,
David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov> wrote:
>Larry Rosler wrote:
>>
>> In article <37BDC174.E4E3132F@cajunbro.com> on Fri, 20 Aug 1999 20:58:28
>> +0000, Mark McCoy <mcking@cajunbro.com> says...
>> > Roger Musson wrote:
>> > >
>> > > $hash{key}='some_value';
>> > >
>> > > What are the valid characters for 'key'
>[snip]
>> There are no reserved characters.
>
>Any string? Any string at all? Wow. What happens when you
>work with a hash like this:
Yes any string at all.
>
>my %trayf = ('one' => 'foo',
> '[]' => 'bar',
> '()' => 'baz');
>
>I tried something similar [note: only similar, not exact]
>on win98 and it hung the system way past the three-finger
>salute. [So I lost the original, and I'm not feeling like
>trying this again.]
>
>Of course, I did have Microsoft and Netscape products
>running at the time, so the cause could be elsewhere. :-)
So why don't you try to work out where the fault lies. If perl
can't deal with arbitrary strings as hash keys then a lot of my code
and I'm sure a lot of other people's doesn't work. I use user input as
hash keys all the time...
I've never had a problem. I've used some pretty 'strange' strings as keys.
--
Sam
I took the initiative in creating the Internet.
--Al Gore
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:56:57 -0700
From: David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Subject: Re: Why $|++ (was: Re: perl system())
Message-Id: <37C08039.C67F8789@mail.cor.epa.gov>
Abigail wrote:
[big snip]
> "Because Randal did it" isn't an excuse. "Because <whoever> did it" is
> never an excuse. Never, ever use code you cannot explain. Else, you'll
> be cargo cult programming.
David's mom: "Well, if your friend Randal jumped off a bridge,
would you do it too?"
David: "Uhhh.. well, not again..."
:-)
David
--
David Cassell, OAO cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov
Senior computing specialist
mathematical statistician
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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:42:19 -0400
From: "Bill Jones" <bill@fccj.org>
Subject: Re: Why use Python when we've got Perl?
Message-Id: <7L0w3.11950$jS5.531812@news2.jacksonville.net>
In article <7ph1s2$dq$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> , Henrik.Seidel@gmx.de
(Henrik Seidel) wrote:
> [Posted and mailed]
Hmmm, I never got it...
>> perl -e '$_="\012534`!./4(%2`\cp%2,`(!#+%2j";s/./"\"\\c$&\""/gees;print'
>>
>> Who knew it said "Just Another Perl Hacker", not I; but will I lose sleep
>> because I don't understand how it does it???
>>
>
> perl -e '$_="\031/5`3(/5,\$`3).#%`)4`)3`3/`%!39j";s/./"\"\\c$&\""/gees;print;'
# You said: $_ = "\031/5`3(/5,\$`3).#%`)4`)3`3/`%!39j";
# I say:
$_ = "No, but I am open to suggestions on where to start learning it.";
s/./"\"\\a$&\""/gees;print;
Maybe in Octal? Hex?
-Sneex- :]
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