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Today's topics:
2-d array sorting <Vorname.Nachname@Infineon.com>
Re: 2-d array sorting (Andreas Fehr)
Re: 2-d array sorting (Jon Orwant)
Re: [Q] Can sendmail be used for attachments? (Eric Smith)
Re: capture output from do file; (Andreas Fehr)
Re: CGI database question <mlopresti@bigfoot.com>
Re: CGI database question <mlopresti@bigfoot.com>
Re: CGI database question <mlopresti@bigfoot.com>
Re: Closing Web Browser Connection on Lengthy Processes <revjack@radix.net>
Re: FAQ 8.10: How do I read and write the serial port? (Bbirthisel)
How to simulate shell variable parsing in Perl? shaunj@my-deja.com
Re: Local CGI with ActivePerl <Webdesigner@NewWebSite.com>
Re: Local CGI with ActivePerl (Bart Lateur)
New posters to comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Re: newbie question (Michael Rubenstein)
Re: Old database is erased when I add new information (Benjamin Franz)
Re: Perl probs! <nick.sanders@lineone.net>
reading from a file and THEN! <posern@Mathematik.Uni-Marburg.de>
Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Re: TPJ/Earthweb junk mail? (Jon Orwant)
Re: TPJ/Earthweb junk mail? (Jon Orwant)
using perl to talk to a modem (Ray Wadman)
way to find *.pm:s? <qwerty@post.utfors.se>
Re: way to find *.pm:s? <qwerty@post.utfors.se>
Re: way to find *.pm:s? <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:26:38 +0200
From: Vorname Nachname <Vorname.Nachname@Infineon.com>
Subject: 2-d array sorting
Message-Id: <3793197E.75A200FC@Infineon.com>
I am quite new with Perl. I have a 2-dimensional array (list of lists)
and I want to sort its lines by the first and the third column of every
line, with first column having priority to third. To make it more clear:
( [6,1,1], [2,4,8], [2,9,1]) should become ( [2,9,1], [2,4,8], [6,1,1])
Thanks for your help
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:09:06 GMT
From: backwards.saerdna@srm.hc (Andreas Fehr)
Subject: Re: 2-d array sorting
Message-Id: <37932317.28033980@news.uniplus.ch>
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:26:38 +0200, Vorname Nachname
>I am quite new with Perl. I have a 2-dimensional array (list of lists)
>and I want to sort its lines by the first and the third column of every
>line, with first column having priority to third. To make it more clear:
>
>( [6,1,1], [2,4,8], [2,9,1]) should become ( [2,9,1], [2,4,8], [6,1,1])
>
I found 'perldoc -f sort' very helpfull
Andreas
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Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:55:25 GMT
From: orwant@rising-sun.media.mit.edu (Jon Orwant)
To: Vorname Nachname <Vorname.Nachname@Infineon.com>
Subject: Re: 2-d array sorting
Message-Id: <ORWANT.99Jul19095525@rising-sun.media.mit.edu>
In article <3793197E.75A200FC@Infineon.com> Vorname Nachname <Vorname.Nachname@Infineon.com> writes:
From: Vorname Nachname <Vorname.Nachname@Infineon.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.misc
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:26:38 +0200
I am quite new with Perl. I have a 2-dimensional array (list of lists)
and I want to sort its lines by the first and the third column of every
line, with first column having priority to third. To make it more clear:
( [6,1,1], [2,4,8], [2,9,1]) should become ( [2,9,1], [2,4,8], [6,1,1])
This isn't the most efficient way to do it, but it's the most lucid:
@unsorted = ([6,1,1], [2,4,8], [2,9,1]); # Your list of lists
@sorted = sort { # Sort on the following criterion
return 1 if $a->[0] > $b->[0]; # "return 1" means it's larger
return -1 if $a->[0] < $b->[0]; # "return -1" means it's smaller
return 1 if $a->[2] > $b->[2]; # ...now we're sorting on the
return -1 if $a->[2] < $b->[2]; # ...third column...
return 0; # It's a tie!
} @unsorted;
foreach (@sorted) { print "@$_\n" } # Print out the results
-Jon
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Date: 19 Jul 1999 11:07:54 GMT
From: eric@fruitcom.com (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: [Q] Can sendmail be used for attachments?
Message-Id: <slrn7p61or.jsm.eric@plum.fruitcom.com>
Check the two articles on this topic in the latest www.tpj.com (Perl
Journal), alternatively grap MIME::Lite from cpan and check its docs
and play - I played like this and I am happy
oops ... I just saw some1 mentioned this as well (below).
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use MIME::Lite;
# Build the message
$message = MIME::Lite->new(
From => 'me@here.org',
To => 'adriaan@fruitcom.com',
Subject => "A test",
Type => "text/plain",
Encoding => '7bit',
Data => "Just a test message");
# Tell MIME::Lite to use Net::SMTP instead of sendmail
$message->attach(
Type => "text/plain",
Encoding => '7bit',
Path => "/d/u/180799/GBP_TOPFRUIT_180799.txt",
Filename => "GBP_TOPFRUIT_180799.txt");
MIME::Lite->send('smtp', 'plum.fruitcom.com', Timeout => 20);
# Send the message
$message->send;
HTH
Eric Smith
dan@tuatha.sidhe.org (dan@tuatha.sidhe.org):
> Nick Condon <nick.condon@tamesis.com> wrote:
> > Jessie Hernandez wrote:
>
> >> I know how to send an e-mail without an attachment with sendmail(easy!),
> >> but how can I send an attachment? Specifically, a page of mine has an input
> >> of type "file". So I'm actually going to ask two questions:
> >>
> >> How can i get the file handle of the file that the user entered in an HTML
> >> form?
> >>
> >> How can I send an e-mail with this file attachment?
> >>
> >> Any help will be greatly appreciated!
>
> > Sendmail doesn't understand attachments.
>
> It may be more correct to say that sendmail (and smail, and qmail, and
> most any other MTA) doesn't care at all about what's in the body of a
> message. It's just a minimally formatted bytestream as far as they're
> concerned.
>
> Which doesn't necessarily answer the question the original poster posed,
> but a reasonably important point nonetheless.
>
> Dan
>
> (FWIW, check out MIME::Lite on CPAN. I don't recall if the original
> responder mentioned that, as I snipped out that bit too soon...)
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 07:43:36 GMT
From: backwards.saerdna@srm.hc (Andreas Fehr)
Subject: Re: capture output from do file;
Message-Id: <3792d626.8337338@news.uniplus.ch>
On 19 Jul 1999 07:29:03 GMT, sholden@pgrad.cs.usyd.edu.au (Sam Holden)
wrote:
>
>$script = `perl file.pl`;
>
>As mentioned in the documentation...
>
Yes, that's somewhat easier. Thanks
Andreas
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:35:20 -0400
From: matt <mlopresti@bigfoot.com>
To: abigail@delanet.com
Subject: Re: CGI database question
Message-Id: <37932998.468799DD@bigfoot.com>
Thanks for the response, and yes db->row() is a type-o. I expect this to create a
drop down option list for instance above this statement is the beginning of the form
and the static data needed to create the form, then an sql statement gets the
requested data from the db and updates $db_field, the code inside of the while loop
creates the option drop down list. Does this sound like it makes sense? I am
basically trying to create an option box on the fly.
The error I get from the Apache server web server is: premature end of script
header.
Now, when I take out the <FORM .............>, the <SELECT.............>, and
</FORM>, </SELECT>. I get no errors and I get data.
-Matt
Abigail wrote:
> matt (loprestim@toad.net) wrote on MMCXLVII September MCMXCIII in
> <URL:news:37925280.D6ED0793@toad.net>:
> ## I am trying to use CGI to access an access database, and what I want to
> ## do is retrieve values from the database, and populate a drop down
> ## selection list like:
> ##
> ## <SELECT NAME="name">
> ## while (db->row){
> ## print "<OPTION>$db_field";
> ## }
> ## </SELECT>
> ##
> ## This does not work. Are there other ways to do this without writing out
> ## top a file?
>
> "This does not work"... that's a very broad statement. Assuming the missing
> $ in front of 'db' is a typo, what do you expect to happen? What happened?
> How is $db_field for instance updated?
>
> Abigail
> --
> echo "==== ======= ==== ======"|perl -pes/=/J/|perl -pes/==/us/|perl -pes/=/t/\
> |perl -pes/=/A/|perl -pes/=/n/|perl -pes/=/o/|perl -pes/==/th/|perl -pes/=/e/\
> |perl -pes/=/r/|perl -pes/=/P/|perl -pes/=/e/|perl -pes/==/rl/|perl -pes/=/H/\
> |perl -pes/=/a/|perl -pes/=/c/|perl -pes/=/k/|perl -pes/==/er/|perl -pes/=/./;
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:35:12 -0400
From: matt <mlopresti@bigfoot.com>
To: abigail@delanet.com
Subject: Re: CGI database question
Message-Id: <3793298F.E7E18890@bigfoot.com>
Thanks for the response, and yes db->row() is a type-o. I expect this to create a
drop down option list for instance above this statement is the beginning of the form
and the static data needed to create the form, then an sql statement gets the
requested data from the db and updates $db_field, the code inside of the while loop
creates the option drop down list. Does this sound like it makes sense? I am
basically trying to create an option box on the fly.
The error I get from the Apache server web server is: premature end of script
header.
Now, when I take out the <FORM .............>, the <SELECT.............>, and
</FORM>, </SELECT>. I get no errors and I get data.
-Matt
Abigail wrote:
> matt (loprestim@toad.net) wrote on MMCXLVII September MCMXCIII in
> <URL:news:37925280.D6ED0793@toad.net>:
> ## I am trying to use CGI to access an access database, and what I want to
> ## do is retrieve values from the database, and populate a drop down
> ## selection list like:
> ##
> ## <SELECT NAME="name">
> ## while (db->row){
> ## print "<OPTION>$db_field";
> ## }
> ## </SELECT>
> ##
> ## This does not work. Are there other ways to do this without writing out
> ## top a file?
>
> "This does not work"... that's a very broad statement. Assuming the missing
> $ in front of 'db' is a typo, what do you expect to happen? What happened?
> How is $db_field for instance updated?
>
> Abigail
> --
> echo "==== ======= ==== ======"|perl -pes/=/J/|perl -pes/==/us/|perl -pes/=/t/\
> |perl -pes/=/A/|perl -pes/=/n/|perl -pes/=/o/|perl -pes/==/th/|perl -pes/=/e/\
> |perl -pes/=/r/|perl -pes/=/P/|perl -pes/=/e/|perl -pes/==/rl/|perl -pes/=/H/\
> |perl -pes/=/a/|perl -pes/=/c/|perl -pes/=/k/|perl -pes/==/er/|perl -pes/=/./;
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:35:47 -0400
From: matt <mlopresti@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: CGI database question
Message-Id: <379329B3.B09AA264@bigfoot.com>
Thanks for the response, and yes db->row() is a type-o. I expect this to create a
drop down option list for instance above this statement is the beginning of the form
and the static data needed to create the form, then an sql statement gets the
requested data from the db and updates $db_field, the code inside of the while loop
creates the option drop down list. Does this sound like it makes sense? I am
basically trying to create an option box on the fly.
The error I get from the Apache server web server is: premature end of script
header.
Now, when I take out the <FORM .............>, the <SELECT.............>, and
</FORM>, </SELECT>. I get no errors and I get data.
-Matt
Abigail wrote:
> matt (loprestim@toad.net) wrote on MMCXLVII September MCMXCIII in
> <URL:news:37925280.D6ED0793@toad.net>:
> ## I am trying to use CGI to access an access database, and what I want to
> ## do is retrieve values from the database, and populate a drop down
> ## selection list like:
> ##
> ## <SELECT NAME="name">
> ## while (db->row){
> ## print "<OPTION>$db_field";
> ## }
> ## </SELECT>
> ##
> ## This does not work. Are there other ways to do this without writing out
> ## top a file?
>
> "This does not work"... that's a very broad statement. Assuming the missing
> $ in front of 'db' is a typo, what do you expect to happen? What happened?
> How is $db_field for instance updated?
>
> Abigail
> --
> echo "==== ======= ==== ======"|perl -pes/=/J/|perl -pes/==/us/|perl -pes/=/t/\
> |perl -pes/=/A/|perl -pes/=/n/|perl -pes/=/o/|perl -pes/==/th/|perl -pes/=/e/\
> |perl -pes/=/r/|perl -pes/=/P/|perl -pes/=/e/|perl -pes/==/rl/|perl -pes/=/H/\
> |perl -pes/=/a/|perl -pes/=/c/|perl -pes/=/k/|perl -pes/==/er/|perl -pes/=/./;
>
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Date: 19 Jul 1999 12:42:35 GMT
From: revjack <revjack@radix.net>
Subject: Re: Closing Web Browser Connection on Lengthy Processes
Message-Id: <7mv6fr$3kt$1@news1.Radix.Net>
Keywords: Hexapodia as the key insight
[Note to self: : When replying to deja-newsers, don't set
X-No-Archive to "yes" - duh]
bane_dewitt@my-deja.com explains it all:
:I'm just wondering how to close that connection when programming in
:perl.
See Randal's Web Techniques column with regard to this:
http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/WebTechniques/col20.html
Might help.
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Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:05:38 GMT
From: bbirthisel@aol.com (Bbirthisel)
Subject: Re: FAQ 8.10: How do I read and write the serial port?
Message-Id: <19990719090538.18858.00000080@ng-fs1.aol.com>
Hi Tom:
> How do I read and write the serial port?
>
> This depends on which operating system your program is
> running on.
> In the case of Unix, the serial ports will be accessible through
> files in /dev; on other systems, the devices names will doubtless
> differ.
On Win32, so much differs that a separate Win32::SerialPort
module was created to manage accesssibility, parameters,
tied filehandles, and the other issues. Available from CPAN.
-bill
Making computers work in Manufacturing for over 25 years (inquiries welcome)
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:08:33 GMT
From: shaunj@my-deja.com
Subject: How to simulate shell variable parsing in Perl?
Message-Id: <7mv809$rku$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
This may seem a trivial question to some but (as a reletive newbie to
Perl) I am struggling to find the answer.
Consider this ksh snippet ...
while read key parm1 parm2 parm3 therest
do
... use the variables as required
done < sometextfile
where ..
sometextfile contains ..
# Comment lines containing some descriptive information which
# may or may not be ignored by the program logic
# followed by some parameters which need to be parsed
key parm1 parm2 parm3
k2 parm1 parm2 parm3 The Rest of the text
------------------------
My question is: What is the most appropriate way to parse this
information using perl, simulating the ksh logiv as closely as possible?
In anticipation .... Shaun.
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:31:04 GMT
From: Floyd Morrissette <Webdesigner@NewWebSite.com>
Subject: Re: Local CGI with ActivePerl
Message-Id: <7mv9ao$s63$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I agree and can understand that these same people are frustrated because
of having to answer the same questions over and over again especially
when the answers are everywhere to be found. But I don't understand why,
if they are tired of answering such questions, do they answer at all. If
they don't want to answer, then don't post anything at all.
Thanks for your support.
In article <7mu15v$hdb$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>,
"Kevin M. Sproule" <kmsproule@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> Mr Morrisette,
>
> While many folks who respond to messages in this news group are
brilliant in
> their areas, they seem to not be very nice people. The anonymity of
this
> type of forum seems to cause some people to loose all sense of
civility.
> While I'm sure most would never insult you to your face; insults,
FTFM's,
> and other tirades against message posters seem to be the rule and not
the
> exception. Some news groups can be small and brutal worlds.
>
> I guess all we can do is to try to set a good example.
>
> Yours truly,
>
> Kevin Sproule
>
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:00:21 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Local CGI with ActivePerl
Message-Id: <37932e8c.7061322@news.skynet.be>
Floyd Morrissette wrote:
>I agree and can understand that these same people are frustrated because
>of having to answer the same questions over and over again especially
>when the answers are everywhere to be found. But I don't understand why,
>if they are tired of answering such questions, do they answer at all. If
>they don't want to answer, then don't post anything at all.
I would think that they want to prevent the newsgroup from drowning in
such posts. It could well be that if such posts are ingored by
theregulars, that their number would simply increase until they
outnumber anything else.
Note that I say "they", as I do not participate in the action. I can
understand the reasoning behind it, though.
Bart.
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Date: 19 Jul 1999 14:01:59 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: New posters to comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <7mvb4n$ag6$2@info2.uah.edu>
Following is a summary of articles from new posters spanning a 7 day
period, beginning at 12 Jul 1999 13:52:03 GMT and ending at
19 Jul 1999 07:19:23 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" email address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 1999 Greg Bacon.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Totals
======
Posters: 281 (47.1% of all posters)
Articles: 431 (23.1% of all articles)
Volume generated: 647.9 kb (21.1% of total volume)
- headers: 311.5 kb (6,471 lines)
- bodies: 331.5 kb (11,353 lines)
- original: 254.0 kb (9,096 lines)
- signatures: 4.6 kb (115 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.766
Averages
========
Posts per poster: 1.5
median: 1 post
mode: 1 post - 194 posters
s: 1.2 posts
Message size: 1539.4 bytes
- header: 740.0 bytes (15.0 lines)
- body: 787.6 bytes (26.3 lines)
- original: 603.5 bytes (21.1 lines)
- signature: 10.8 bytes (0.3 lines)
Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------
10 17.4 ( 8.8/ 8.5/ 3.4) "Chris Denman" <chris@inta.net.uk>
6 8.2 ( 4.6/ 3.6/ 3.0) "Thoren Johne" <thoren@csi.com>
6 6.5 ( 3.6/ 2.8/ 1.3) saku.news@ytti.net (Saku Ytti)
6 8.3 ( 3.4/ 5.0/ 4.9) perulinks@aol.com (Perulinks)
5 9.2 ( 4.0/ 5.2/ 3.8) bane_dewitt@my-deja.com
5 8.2 ( 4.4/ 3.5/ 2.0) coers@evsx.com
5 15.6 ( 4.1/ 11.4/ 11.4) Tomasz Marcinek <tomek@coders.pl>
4 3.8 ( 2.7/ 1.0/ 0.8) Marshall Culpepper <marshalc@NO-SPAMamericasm01.nt.com>
4 4.2 ( 2.6/ 1.6/ 1.6) skyfaye@my-deja.com
4 6.2 ( 3.1/ 3.1/ 1.6) dan@tuatha.sidhe.org
These posters accounted for 2.9% of all articles.
Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
17.4 ( 8.8/ 8.5/ 3.4) 10 "Chris Denman" <chris@inta.net.uk>
15.6 ( 4.1/ 11.4/ 11.4) 5 Tomasz Marcinek <tomek@coders.pl>
9.3 ( 2.5/ 6.8/ 5.2) 3 mwkohout <mwkohout@csbsju.edu>
9.2 ( 4.0/ 5.2/ 3.8) 5 bane_dewitt@my-deja.com
8.5 ( 1.6/ 6.3/ 1.4) 2 "$Bill Luebkert" <dbe@wgn.net>
8.4 ( 2.6/ 5.8/ 5.0) 3 Michael G Schwern <stupid@pobox.com>
8.3 ( 3.4/ 5.0/ 4.9) 6 perulinks@aol.com (Perulinks)
8.2 ( 4.4/ 3.5/ 2.0) 5 coers@evsx.com
8.2 ( 4.6/ 3.6/ 3.0) 6 "Thoren Johne" <thoren@csi.com>
7.7 ( 2.6/ 4.6/ 2.6) 4 Flash@pobox.com
These posters accounted for 3.3% of the total volume.
Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
1.000 ( 1.6 / 1.6) 4 skyfaye@my-deja.com
1.000 ( 1.9 / 1.9) 3 spertus@mills.edu
1.000 ( 0.6 / 0.6) 3 ccetks@leonis.nus.edu.sg (Tan Keok San)
1.000 ( 3.5 / 3.5) 3 ataraxia@nospam.excite.com (Ataraxia)
1.000 ( 3.4 / 3.4) 4 "Lee Clemmer" <libertarian@mindspring.com.com>
1.000 ( 1.4 / 1.4) 3 "Eoan Kerr" <eoan.kerr@gssec.bt.co.uk>
1.000 ( 11.4 / 11.4) 5 Tomasz Marcinek <tomek@coders.pl>
0.984 ( 4.9 / 5.0) 6 perulinks@aol.com (Perulinks)
0.907 ( 3.9 / 4.3) 3 "cshelby" <cshelby@mindspring.com>
0.873 ( 5.0 / 5.8) 3 Michael G Schwern <stupid@pobox.com>
Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.563 ( 2.6 / 4.6) 4 Flash@pobox.com
0.547 ( 2.2 / 4.0) 3 "Brad Long" <bjl@uq.net.au>
0.526 ( 1.6 / 3.1) 4 dan@tuatha.sidhe.org
0.461 ( 1.3 / 2.8) 6 saku.news@ytti.net (Saku Ytti)
0.421 ( 1.0 / 2.4) 3 Stanislav Benda <si_bendovi@hotmail.com>
0.394 ( 3.4 / 8.5) 10 "Chris Denman" <chris@inta.net.uk>
0.377 ( 0.5 / 1.4) 3 "M.A. Henderson" <dchender@esn.net>
0.338 ( 0.3 / 1.0) 3 Yu Fang <yfang@bbn.com>
0.264 ( 0.2 / 0.9) 3 jerrad pierce <jerrad@networkengines.com>
0.208 ( 0.5 / 2.6) 3 Donna Walker <donnawalk@netscape.net>
34 posters (12%) had at least three posts.
Top 10 Crossposters
===================
Articles Address
-------- -------
6 "Johnson ¬ù¿«Ó¥J" <johnyick@hongkong.com>
4 "Van-Thieu Tran" <vtt@de.uu.net>
4 Paul Lim <pylim@ecr.mu.oz.au>
3 "Perl Newgroup" <warss@mail.gv2.net>
2 Malcolm Dew-Jones <malcolm.dewjones@moh.hnet.bc.ca>
2 wallace@cityedin.demon.co.uk
2 "Scott Lundberg" <scottl-SPAM@SPAM-extendsys.com>
2 matt@mail.tca.net
2 "XFACTOR" <X@FACTOR.COM>
2 h.m.brand@hccnet.nl (H. Merijn Brand)
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:10:57 GMT
From: miker3@ix.netcom.com (Michael Rubenstein)
Subject: Re: newbie question
Message-Id: <379b0793.602320230@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
On 19 Jul 1999 04:03:34 GMT, cs_ccyab@ug.cs.ust.hk (Patrick)
wrote:
>i am a newbie in perl
>in my perl program
>there is a line:
>use LWP::Socket;
>
>when i execute it, it showed me:
>Can't locate LWP/Socket.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
>/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00502/sun4-solaris-thread
>/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00502
>/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/sun4-solaris-thread
>/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005 .) at adduser.pl line 3.
>BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at adduser.pl line 3.
The LWP module is not installed. You'll need to install it or
get your system administrator to install it.
--
Michael M Rubenstein
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 12:20:36 GMT
From: snowhare@long-lake.nihongo.org (Benjamin Franz)
Subject: Re: Old database is erased when I add new information
Message-Id: <oKEk3.571$_y.74141@typhoon01.swbell.net>
In article <19990718234227.14661.00002186@ng-bh1.aol.com>,
Perulinks <perulinks@aol.com> wrote:
>Microsoft is Microsoft. Bill has lots of bargaining power and money to do
>whatever he wants. If we need to use Windos (95 or 98), we really don't have
>much choice.
>
>When it comes to selecting a programer to do a 249.00 Perl job--we do have lots
>of choices. They stand behind their programs. If that is too much to ask,
>they should at least be more accessible.
You only need 1 to 2 hours of work for a Perl programmer?
Not much of a project.
My experience as someone who has had to review programmers for hiring
as well as being a programmer myself is that you get what you pay for.
If you expect to get shrink wrap prices for software - you better be
buying shrink wrap software that sells in units of 10s of thousands.
And expect to pay again for tech support by the minute. And NOBODY
in the shrink wrap world is going to support software you hacked
on yourself: Period. Go hack on your copy of WinNT and try calling
Microsoft for support, casually mentioning your 'improvements'.
Go ahead. I dare you.
Decent freelance programmers get paid $100 an hour and UP. Anything
below that and you are wasting the time of the programmer - and
probably your money. If you think you can hire a programmer to do a
job for less than that - caveat emptor: You get what you pay for.
--
Benjamin Franz
"Hey BillieJoeBob, we just got hired to do a programming job in Perl,
you still got that copy of Perl in 48 Hours laying around?"
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:34:07 +0100
From: Nick Sanders <nick.sanders@lineone.net>
Subject: Re: Perl probs!
Message-Id: <3792E2FF.310406AB@lineone.net>
Have you setup the script alias and is the script executable
Nick
Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:31:53 -0400 Jim Janovich wrote:
> > I am running Redhat 5.2 with Perl 5.004. Have a few cgis setup....whenever
> > I try to access the cgi or .pl from a webpage.....it tries to d/l the .pl
> > file.....whats the prob?
>
> You should read the documentation for the Webserver which should be already
> on your machine. If you have further problems with this issue in particular
> they should be addressed to the newsgroup comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
>
> /J\
> --
> Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
> Some of your questions answered:
> <URL:http://www.btinternet.com/~gellyfish/resources/wwwfaq.htm>
> Hastings: <URL:http://www.newhoo.com/Regional/UK/England/East_Sussex/Hastings>
------------------------------
Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:04:16 GMT
From: Knuth Posern <posern@Mathematik.Uni-Marburg.de>
Subject: reading from a file and THEN!
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9907191458250.12381-100000@hadar>
Hi.
Is there ANY possiblity to NOTICE if a file that I read from with:
open(FH, "bla");
while (FH) {
##...
}
was deleted (e.g. with "rm bla") and NEW created...
(So that the READING from bla could GO ON!)
Ciao,
Knuth.
------------------------------
Date: 19 Jul 1999 14:01:58 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <7mvb4m$ag6$1@info2.uah.edu>
Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 12 Jul 1999 13:52:03 GMT and ending at
19 Jul 1999 07:19:23 GMT.
Notes
=====
- A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
- All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
considered to be the author's signature.
- The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
in determining the "real" email address and name.
- Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
volume to the total body volume.
- Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
<URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
- Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
- Copyright (c) 1999 Greg Bacon.
Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
alteration is not permitted. Redistribution and/or use for any
commercial purpose is prohibited.
Excluded Posters
================
perlfaq-suggestions\@(?:.*\.)?perl\.com
Totals
======
Posters: 596
Articles: 1867 (711 with cutlined signatures)
Threads: 515
Volume generated: 3078.1 kb
- headers: 1441.5 kb (29,093 lines)
- bodies: 1486.4 kb (49,375 lines)
- original: 1036.3 kb (37,454 lines)
- signatures: 148.4 kb (3,000 lines)
Original Content Rating: 0.697
Averages
========
Posts per poster: 3.1
median: 1.0 post
mode: 1 post - 352 posters
s: 73.4 posts
Posts per thread: 3.6
median: 3 posts
mode: 1 post - 141 threads
s: 4.5 posts
Message size: 1688.2 bytes
- header: 790.6 bytes (15.6 lines)
- body: 815.2 bytes (26.4 lines)
- original: 568.4 bytes (20.1 lines)
- signature: 81.4 bytes (1.6 lines)
Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Posts Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Address
----- -------------------------- -------
165 375.1 (185.3/118.7/111.0) abigail@delanet.com
76 114.2 ( 45.8/ 68.1/ 46.5) tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
69 103.1 ( 42.5/ 52.8/ 30.1) lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
45 68.1 ( 35.0/ 26.8/ 12.6) Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
38 83.2 ( 32.3/ 36.5/ 17.2) Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
36 49.9 ( 28.8/ 21.1/ 11.7) bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
34 56.4 ( 20.9/ 35.3/ 17.9) anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
32 49.2 ( 26.3/ 17.8/ 8.9) brian@pm.org (brian d foy)
27 28.5 ( 18.9/ 9.6/ 4.3) "Faisal Nasim" <swiftkid@bigfoot.com>
26 39.2 ( 19.2/ 14.1/ 7.9) rjk@linguist.dartmouth.edu (Ronald J Kimball)
These posters accounted for 29.4% of all articles.
Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Address
-------------------------- ----- -------
375.1 (185.3/118.7/111.0) 165 abigail@delanet.com
114.2 ( 45.8/ 68.1/ 46.5) 76 tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
103.1 ( 42.5/ 52.8/ 30.1) 69 lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
83.2 ( 32.3/ 36.5/ 17.2) 38 Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
68.1 ( 35.0/ 26.8/ 12.6) 45 Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
56.4 ( 20.9/ 35.3/ 17.9) 34 anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
53.7 ( 16.3/ 37.4/ 21.7) 20 stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
51.3 ( 19.0/ 30.3/ 23.5) 25 Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
49.9 ( 28.8/ 21.1/ 11.7) 36 bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
49.8 ( 20.5/ 26.7/ 21.6) 24 tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
These posters accounted for 32.6% of the total volume.
Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
1.000 ( 1.1 / 1.1) 5 ryanngi@hotmail.com (Ryan Ngi)
1.000 ( 11.4 / 11.4) 5 Tomasz Marcinek <tomek@coders.pl>
0.984 ( 4.9 / 5.0) 6 perulinks@aol.com (Perulinks)
0.940 ( 1.4 / 1.5) 7 Marshall Culpepper <marshalc@americasm01.nt.com>
0.935 (111.0 /118.7) 165 abigail@delanet.com
0.929 ( 3.1 / 3.3) 5 wired2000@my-deja.com
0.923 ( 11.5 / 12.5) 20 fl_aggie@thepentagon.com
0.922 ( 4.0 / 4.4) 6 Tom Kralidis <tom.kralidis@ccrs.nrcanDOTgc.ca>
0.891 ( 0.8 / 0.9) 9 @no.no
0.823 ( 3.0 / 3.6) 6 "Thoren Johne" <thoren@csi.com>
Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Address
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.464 ( 11.1 / 24.0) 13 tgy@chocobo.org
0.462 ( 2.4 / 5.1) 6 Anton Berezin <tobez@plab.ku.dk>
0.461 ( 1.3 / 2.8) 6 saku.news@ytti.net (Saku Ytti)
0.460 ( 2.7 / 5.8) 8 ada@fc.hp.com (Andrew Allen)
0.446 ( 4.3 / 9.6) 27 "Faisal Nasim" <swiftkid@bigfoot.com>
0.443 ( 4.9 / 10.9) 7 jett1not@homedot.com (JT)
0.442 ( 2.6 / 5.8) 11 Martin Quensel <martin@adoma.se>
0.402 ( 1.0 / 2.6) 5 mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
0.400 ( 1.8 / 4.5) 11 Matt Sergeant <matt@sergeant.org>
0.394 ( 3.4 / 8.5) 10 "Chris Denman" <chris@inta.net.uk>
64 posters (10%) had at least five posts.
Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================
Posts Subject
----- -------
45 Linux - Apache - Perl
38 Tiny error in perlfaq5
33 Old database is erased when I add new information
31 ** Working With Strings
30 Future of Perl
20 Remove leading zeros from a string
19 checking if variable is already a memeber of an array?
19 C-like #define macros in Perl
17 Test if a File Exists?
15 Anybody know how to to this?
These threads accounted for 14.3% of all articles.
Top 10 Threads by Volume
========================
(kb) (kb) (kb) (kb)
Volume ( hdr/ body/ orig) Posts Subject
-------------------------- ----- -------
95.8 ( 26.9/ 67.0/ 38.3) 33 Old database is erased when I add new information
82.8 ( 38.2/ 41.5/ 24.5) 45 Linux - Apache - Perl
56.5 ( 24.1/ 30.0/ 18.9) 30 Future of Perl
53.9 ( 31.7/ 20.1/ 13.3) 38 Tiny error in perlfaq5
51.2 ( 25.9/ 22.1/ 11.9) 31 ** Working With Strings
37.3 ( 17.0/ 15.9/ 10.7) 19 C-like #define macros in Perl
33.6 ( 16.2/ 14.6/ 10.0) 19 checking if variable is already a memeber of an array?
27.7 ( 12.3/ 13.3/ 9.9) 15 Anybody know how to to this?
26.2 ( 16.6/ 7.1/ 4.0) 20 Remove leading zeros from a string
25.8 ( 10.0/ 14.8/ 10.3) 9 long explanations wearying (was Re: Top 10 responses)
These threads accounted for 15.9% of the total volume.
Top 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.948 ( 12.1/ 12.7) 8 Professional programmers seeking opportunities on-line
0.922 ( 3.4/ 3.7) 5 file to array ?
0.899 ( 8.5/ 9.4) 6 Padding numbers with 0's
0.887 ( 2.5/ 2.8) 5 split()
0.867 ( 11.7/ 13.5) 10 Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
0.838 ( 2.3/ 2.8) 5 how to pass variables to system commands
0.837 ( 2.7/ 3.2) 5 Something in Perl I can do but can't in PHP
0.837 ( 4.0/ 4.8) 8 How do I include a hash is a regular expression?
0.831 ( 3.2/ 3.9) 6 loop problems ??
0.825 ( 3.8/ 4.6) 5 HHHHEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!
Bottom 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================
(kb) (kb)
OCR orig / body Posts Subject
----- -------------- ----- -------
0.501 ( 1.9 / 3.7) 6 getting modify times with perl&unix
0.501 ( 4.2 / 8.5) 12 die ?
0.501 ( 1.5 / 3.1) 5 Perl on NT - SIG handlers
0.494 ( 2.0 / 4.0) 6 How to delete an element in the middle of an array
0.479 ( 3.1 / 6.5) 8 regex question
0.472 ( 1.9 / 4.1) 6 weird mysql occurance
0.466 ( 2.0 / 4.4) 6 FAQ 5.7: How can I use a filehandle indirectly?
0.407 ( 1.5 / 3.7) 5 VBScript to PerlScript
0.375 ( 1.1 / 2.9) 5 regular expression
0.366 ( 1.2 / 3.2) 5 UPS Rate Calculator? Have you programmed for it?
115 threads (22%) had at least five posts.
Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
=============================
Articles Newsgroup
-------- ---------
24 comp.lang.perl.modules
14 comp.lang.perl
8 comp.lang.perl.moderated
5 comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
4 rec.games.go
4 alt.ecommerce
4 alt.www.webmaster
4 de.comp.lang.perl.misc
3 comp.lang.perl.cgi
3 tw.bbs.comp.lang.perl
Top 10 Crossposters
===================
Articles Address
-------- -------
6 "Johnson ¬ù¿«Ó¥J" <johnyick@hongkong.com>
4 "Van-Thieu Tran" <vtt@de.uu.net>
4 @no.no
4 Paul Lim <pylim@ecr.mu.oz.au>
4 Andrew Singer <als48@pantheon.yale.edu>
4 sitaram@diac.com (Sitaram Chamarty)
3 anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
3 "Perl Newgroup" <warss@mail.gv2.net>
3 Tom Phoenix <rootbeer&pfaq*finding*@redcat.com>
3 Alexander Farber <eedalf@eed.ericsson.se>
------------------------------
Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:01:44 GMT
From: orwant@rising-sun.media.mit.edu (Jon Orwant)
To: brian@pm.org (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: TPJ/Earthweb junk mail?
Message-Id: <ORWANT.99Jul19090144@rising-sun.media.mit.edu>
In article <brian-ya02408000R1907990204240001@news.panix.com> brian@pm.org (brian d foy) writes:
From: brian@pm.org (brian d foy)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.misc
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:04:24 -0400
i've started to get junk snail mail from Earthweb (the new publisher
of TPJ) at home which is strange because the only technology-related
mailing list that has that address is TPJ. i've checked with a few
other TPJ subscribers, and they have received similar junk mail.
furthermore, i've all of a sudden starting receiving various computer
catalogs at home. coincidence?
What I do is use a different middle initial for each magazine
I subscribe to. Then when mail comes to "Jon Q. Orwant" from
Stop Electromagnetic Radiation Now! or the Committee To Delete
Mail User Agents That Take Your Regular Message And Append A
Second Copy In HTML For No Apparent Reason, I know who to blame.
It's obviously no coincidence that you got EarthWeb junk mail. You're
a TPJ subscriber, EarthWeb owns TPJ, and so EarthWeb decided to let
you know about things you could pay for but would never want to when
there are better things to spend your money on, like beer.
I haven't seen the EarthWeb spam in question (or maybe I just
threw it away too quickly to notice) but from what I hear, it's a
silly thing to send to TPJ subscribers, just like the Visual Basic
ads on tpj.com were silly. Had they asked my opinion, I would
have told them how angry you and others would be.
But I doubt they sold your list to other companies. I'll try to
find out for sure today.
Note that there's a very big difference between selling lists and
renting them. When you sell a list, you're handing over all the
information to someone else. There is a special circle of hell
for magazines who do this. (It's below Copyright Jail and right
above the Libel Dungeon.)
Renting lists is less evil (and more common). When EvilCorp rents
a list to MegaSatan, they send their list to a NastyGroup GmbH, a
third-party list management company. NastyGroup uses the list for
a one-time mailing only. When I ran TPJ, I let O'Reilly use the
TPJ subscriber list to let people know about their Perl
conferences and books. I never let anyone else use the list for
anything. And when people said "if you send me junk mail, I will
huck Ginsu knives at your cat", I put little annotations in their
subscription records that prevented the list management company
from seeing their names. Even though I don't have a cat.
i'm starting to suspect that Earthweb wasn't as interested in TPJ
as much as the TPJ subscriber list. they certainly haven't cared to
make a useful online version of the magazine which looks more like
a billboard for the other projects they have assimilated and then
neglected.
As you know from our conversation at YAPC, I'm not happy with the
web site either. It's getting better, albeit very slowly.
i tried email to Mike Green <mgreen@earthweb.com> (the publisher),
and after much noise making through other channels, he left a cursory
message on my voice mail, but has yet to answer other email. although
i can't confirm it (since the publisher doesn't answer email), i
suspect that TPJ subscriber data is not only being used for Earthweb
junk mail, but is being sold.
I really doubt it's being sold -- or even rented.
i invite Mike Green <mgreen@earthweb.com> to publically clarify TPJ's
privacy policy and allow subscribers to choose not to have their
information resold.
That's a good idea. But note that there already is a link at the
bottom of tpj.com pages with their privacy statement. Also note
that if you navigate tpj.com through the sand traps to the "Edit
Profile" putting green, you'll see a little box that you have to
check if you *want* to get spam.
-Jon
--
------------------------------
Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:11:03 GMT
From: orwant@rising-sun.media.mit.edu (Jon Orwant)
To: abigail@delanet.com
Subject: Re: TPJ/Earthweb junk mail?
Message-Id: <ORWANT.99Jul19091103@rising-sun.media.mit.edu>
In article <slrn7p5hqm.c9j.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com> abigail@delanet.com (Abigail) writes:
From: abigail@delanet.com (Abigail)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.misc
References: <brian-ya02408000R1907990204240001@news.panix.com>
Reply-To: abigail@delanet.com
brian d foy (brian@pm.org) wrote on MMCXLVIII September MCMXCIII in
<URL:news:brian-ya02408000R1907990204240001@news.panix.com>:
==
== i've started to get junk snail mail from Earthweb (the new publisher
== of TPJ) at home which is strange because the only technology-related
== mailing list that has that address is TPJ. i've checked with a few
== other TPJ subscribers, and they have received similar junk mail.
== furthermore, i've all of a sudden starting receiving various computer
== catalogs at home. coincidence?
No, but it's a little more than just TPJ subscribers. I'm getting junk
smail from Earthweb as well - everything in duplicate. I've never been
a TPJ subscriber. But I did give Jon Orwant my address twice, in two
variations; and on those variations I'm getting junk snail mail from
Earthweb.
Abigail, you gave me your address so that I could send you a free copy
of TPJ #8. Which I did. I put your name into my database so that
when I made my weekly run to the post office, I'd have a nice label to
attach to your issue. This doesn't excuse the junk mail EarthWeb sent
you, but it does explain why you got it: if they sent mail to people
on the TPJ list (as apparently they did), you'd get mail, because you
were on that list. It doesn't explain the duplicates, though.
-Jon
--
------------------------------
Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:40:51 GMT
From: rwadman@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Ray Wadman)
Subject: using perl to talk to a modem
Message-Id: <7mv9t3$3q$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>
hi, i hope someone can help. i need to to know the best way to
to use perl to communicate with a modem on fbsd 2.2.7
(what i have to do is use perl to talk to a modem and send out a
page (the numvber is a pager system) and inform when a critcal host
goes down.)
does anyone know how to do this or know of a resource?
please respond via email: rwadman@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
thanks
Ray
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:29:55 +0200
From: "Dr. Who" <qwerty@post.utfors.se>
Subject: way to find *.pm:s?
Message-Id: <3791BAB2.AE86A632@post.utfors.se>
Is there an easy way to find out which perlmodules are installed on a
system?
.. perhaps some undocumented variable? ;)
------------------------------
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 13:31:46 +0200
From: "Dr. Who" <qwerty@post.utfors.se>
Subject: Re: way to find *.pm:s?
Message-Id: <3791BB22.D23355CD@post.utfors.se>
"Dr. Who" wrote:
> Is there an easy way to find out which perlmodules are installed on a
> system?
> .. perhaps some undocumented variable? ;)
-----
hmm .. perhaps looking for .pm-files in @inc
------------------------------
Date: 19 Jul 1999 13:49:53 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: way to find *.pm:s?
Message-Id: <37931ef1@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
Dr. Who <qwerty@post.utfors.se> wrote:
> Is there an easy way to find out which perlmodules are installed on a
> system?
> .. perhaps some undocumented variable? ;)
>
Check DejaNews :
<http://www.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=491438283&fmt=text>
Is at least one way ...
/J\
--
"He is marvelous at beating men and achieving real penetration" -
Alex Ferguson
------------------------------
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