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Thu Jul 15 12:07:20 1999
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:05:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Perl-Users Digest Thu, 15 Jul 1999 Volume: 9 Number: 153
Today's topics:
Re: <<eof in `` <si_bendovi@hotmail.com>
Re: Calculations (M.J.T. Guy)
Re: CGI newbie question <jeffp@crusoe.net>
Re: CGI newbie question <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: CGI newbie question <mwkohout@csbsju.edu>
Re: CGI newbie question <dcross@tech-19.quixell.com>
Re: connecting to a phone number (Mark Fowler)
Re: Determining the filesize of a given file <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Error Processing Directive darkmanjs@my-deja.com
Re: Garbage Collection Performance <jerbyr@my-deja.com>
Re: generate the return html for browser client mmixon@primacis.com
Re: Help reverse(@array); on ActivePerl it works, not o (Bart Lateur)
How to get hostname? <moab@emirates.net.ae>
Re: Linux - Apache - Perl (JT)
MYSQL - Help <seccoza@mweb.co.za>
Re: MYSQL - Help <clint@drtech.co.uk>
Re: MYSQL - Help <thomas@daimi.au.dk>
Re: newby Q- how:perl script to cgi? mmixon@primacis.com
Re: Old database is erased when I add new information (Greg Bacon)
Re: Old database is erased when I add new information (Greg Bacon)
Re: OVER 18 ONLY! 72808 (John Borwick)
Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 1 Jul 99) (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:21:13 GMT
From: Stanislav Benda <si_bendovi@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: <<eof in ``
Message-Id: <7mku8p$ilk$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <tueim7.srj.ln@magna.metronet.com>,
tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan) wrote:
> Stanislav Benda (si_bendovi@hotmail.com) wrote:
> : In article <a17dm7.vue.ln@magna.metronet.com>,
> : tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan) wrote:
> : > Stanislav Benda (si_bendovi@hotmail.com) wrote:
>
> [snip code]
>
> : Not, this does not work. It starts sqldba ( command line SQL utility
> : for Oracle database) and waiting for keyboard input. When sqldba
> : finish, result is stored in $var. I need to start sqldba and send
to it
> : this text: connect . . .
> : It could work in unix like I wrote, but in PC NT DOS shell there is
> ^^
> ^^
> : nothing like <<eof. There is no fork as well. Is it any chance to
solve
> ^^^^^^^
> ^^^^^^^
>
> I thought Win95/98 had no fork, and NT did have it?
No, there is not fork in NT.
> I dunno (or even care).
>
> Have you at least tried it as described in the Perl FAQ, part 8:
>
> "How can I open a pipe both to and from a command?"
>
> --
> Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
> tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
> Fort Worth, Texas
>
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Date: 15 Jul 1999 15:03:30 GMT
From: mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
Subject: Re: Calculations
Message-Id: <7mkt82$88m$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:
>
>No. But there is a FAQ.
>
>How's my Abigail imitation?
>
>--
>(Just Another Larry) Rosler
>Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
>http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
>lr@hpl.hp.com
You call *that* an Abigail sigfile?
Mike Guy
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:15:44 -0400
From: evil Japh <jeffp@crusoe.net>
Subject: Re: CGI newbie question
Message-Id: <Pine.GSO.4.10.9907151012170.23974-100000@crusoe.crusoe.net>
[posted & mailed]
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, matt wrote:
> I am writing CGI scripts for win32 and would like to know if there are
> any tools or utilities that will allow me to test these scripts before I
> FTP them to the server, so all the testing can be done before then? Any
> ideas would be appreciated, if you recommend PWS, can you please explain
> how to set it up, I'm having a great deal of difficulty with it.
Ok, this should really be in some win32 newsgroup, but I guess it has some
use here, since it's about debugging Perl programs that use CGI before
uploading them to a server.
First, CGI programs written using CGI.pm can be tested at the commandline
like so:
C:\PERL\MINE> perl my_prog
(offline mode: enter name=value pairs on standard input)
alpha=beta
gamma=delta
epsilon=zeta%20eta%20theta
=
(program runs...)
As for a web server program, I HIGHLY suggest apache, because it is easy
to configure, and has extensive documentation. I find it useful, and I
use it on my PC.
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Date: 15 Jul 1999 16:03:35 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: CGI newbie question
Message-Id: <378df847@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
matt <mlopresti@bigfoot.com> wrote:
> if you recommend PWS, can you please explain
> how to set it up, I'm having a great deal of difficulty with it.
>
If someone recommends PWS you can look up how to set it up yourself in#
the documentation that comes with the Activestate distribution of Perl
because setting up PWS is not a suitable topic of discussion for this group
- if you have problems with it then you should ask in the newsgroup
comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows
/J\
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extinct?" - Joey, Friends
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 10:09:48 -0500
From: mwkohout <mwkohout@csbsju.edu>
Subject: Re: CGI newbie question
Message-Id: <378DF9BB.9EB64E6F@csbsju.edu>
couldn't you also just open them as a file in your web browser?
w/ netscape 4.6, you just go <file> <open page> then browse to find the
.pl, and then open it.....
mike kohout
<
matt wrote:
>
> I am writing CGI scripts for win32 and would like to know if there are
> any tools or utilities that will allow me to test these scripts before I
> FTP them to the server, so all the testing can be done before then? Any
> ideas would be appreciated, if you recommend PWS, can you please explain
> how to set it up, I'm having a great deal of difficulty with it.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -Matt
> mlopresti@bigfoot.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:47:42 +0000
From: <dcross@tech-19.quixell.com>
Subject: Re: CGI newbie question
Message-Id: <Pine.LNX.4.10.9907151546160.7519-100000@tech-19.quixell.com>
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, matt wrote:
> I am writing CGI scripts for win32 and would like to know if there are
> any tools or utilities that will allow me to test these scripts before I
> FTP them to the server, so all the testing can be done before then? Any
> ideas would be appreciated, if you recommend PWS, can you please explain
> how to set it up, I'm having a great deal of difficulty with it.
Instead of PWS, get the Win32 port of Apache from <http://www.apache.org>.
This is the standard web server across most ofthe web and comes
pre-configured to run Perl CGI scripts.
hth,
Dave...
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:49:17 GMT
From: trelane@twoshortplanks.com (Mark Fowler)
Subject: Re: connecting to a phone number
Message-Id: <378e00aa.91077131@news.colt.net>
On Thu, 8 Jul 1999 18:34:43 +0100, In off the Post
<pbm@iotp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>Is it possible to connect to a phone line using a Perl server-side
>script?
I know it's possible to use a mobile phone to send data via SMS from
Perl, using the GSM::Gnokii module. You'll need two compatible nokia
mobile phones and the relevent cables. It'll cost you between 5 and
10 pence a SMS, and whatever line rental you subscribe to.
If the machine sending the form data is connected to the 'net and you
subcribed to One-2-One you could then get away with just one mobile
phone, and just use the free One-2-One email->SMS gateway to send the
data, which would mean all your transmission costs too.
Later.
Mark.
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Date: 15 Jul 1999 15:09:14 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Determining the filesize of a given file
Message-Id: <378deb8a@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
Stephan Budach <stephan.budach@knsk-bbdo.de> wrote:
> In article <slrn7omvmj.ump.mike@lindt.fat.dotat.at>, mike@fat.dotat.at
> (Mike Bristow) wrote:
>
>> You're not doing any error checking; try:
>>
>> @stats = stat($filename) or die "Oh, my god! I can't stat $filename: $!";
>> $size = $stats[7];
>>
>
> thatīs true iīm not using any error checking, but that doesnīt help me
> understand why the hell, stat doesnīt work an normal files. I have tried
> that with Linux and with BSD, both failed. Huh?!
Sure but if you *try* it with the error checking then the message will
be a very useful diagnostic as to *why* it isnt working ... That is after
all the point of printing out the $! variable.
/J\
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:30:16 GMT
From: darkmanjs@my-deja.com
Subject: Error Processing Directive
Message-Id: <7mkupm$is7$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I'm tring to get a perl counter to work on my page and I get this error
with every counter I've tried. I'm my 5th one and it's nothing but a
basic text counter. This is the error I get:
[an error occurred while processing this directive]
I have other Perl scripts working on my page. Specifically a voting
script, but I can't get a counter to work. The only thing I can think
of is that the voting script works because it's attached to a button
where as, this script is being run straight from the page. i've been
using
<!--#exec cgi="cgi-bin/counter.pl"-->
and that doesn't seem to work. I've tried making the page a .shtml,
i've tried using <!--#include virtual="..., but nothing seems to work.
Please help!
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:45:07 GMT
From: Jeremy Purdy <jerbyr@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Garbage Collection Performance
Message-Id: <7mks5f$hn6$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <19990714212308.A708@lion.plab.ku.dk>,
Anton Berezin <tobez@plab.ku.dk> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 13, 1999 at 04:46:10PM +0000, Jeremy Purdy wrote:
> > I have a data-intensive application that I am writing in PERL. It
> > uses a LARGE amount of memory while processing, but runs fairly
> > efficiently.
>
> Define ``LARGE''.
>
Well, I've never looked at the exact amount of space that is allocated,
but in this case the program take a 10M data file and moves that data
into a database, does a bunch of stuff and then moves it out into 7 new
data files. This data is passing through buffers and internal variables
quite a few times during processing. My buffers for I/O are 2M in size,
so I would not be surprised if the application allocates 10M+.
> > I just noticed, however, that at the end of the process, after the
> > last line of the program, there is a pause of approx. 10 min where
the
> > program is waiting.
>
> I doubt very much it has anything to do with garbage collection. It
> should not be *that* slow.
>
Well, I can't say for sure what it is doing, but there is this 10 min
pause after the last line of code is executed (processing take about 14
min up until this point) before the application actually shuts down. I
can't think of anything it could be doing except for garbage collection.
--
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:32:44 GMT
From: mmixon@primacis.com
Subject: Re: generate the return html for browser client
Message-Id: <7mkuus$iv9$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <7mjes2$2bq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
Thien Syh <gabriel@asiaep.com> wrote:
> I'm facing a problem on my perl program , when i compile the program
it
> gave me the following error message:
> content-type:texthtml
>
> <html><head><title>Merchant Administration Page</title></head>
> <CENTER><font face="helvetica"><B>EDC Merchant
> Administration</B></center><P>
>
> <H3>Sales Transaction Failed</H3><br><B>Detail :</B> Payment Server
> unavaliable<
> br>Please contact administrator.<br></body></html>]
>
> Here is my code where the problem happened. Please help!
>
> ### generate the return html for browser
> client _
> print("content-
> type:text/html\n\n"); _
> print("<html><head><title>Merchant Administration
> Page</title></head>\n"); _
> print("<CENTER><font face=\"helvetica\"><B>EDC Merchant
> Administration</B></ce_
> ###
> _
Not sure I see the problem. The perl script above, although
slightly truncated, would indeed produce the output you are seeing.
Perl seems to be working just fine.
In other words, none of the code you provided shows why the perl script
generated the error message that it did.
--Marlin
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:07:58 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Help reverse(@array); on ActivePerl it works, not on line
Message-Id: <378eeaec.26793129@news.skynet.be>
Sorry to piggyback...
scientiaXXX wrote:
>> I need to use
>> reverse(@host);
>> where @host is an array.
Are you sure that @host contains more than one entry?
@ary = ('a string');
print reverse @ary;
->
a string
Bart.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:46:46 GMT
From: Nabil Courdy <moab@emirates.net.ae>
Subject: How to get hostname?
Message-Id: <7mkvp1$jc8$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
What function to use to get the nodename of
the host machine?
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 14:25:40 GMT
From: jett1not@homedot.com (JT)
Subject: Re: Linux - Apache - Perl
Message-Id: <378decd2.54124067@24.2.0.71>
On 14 Jul 1999 17:13:35 GMT, fl_aggie@thepentagon.com (I R A Aggie)
wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:25:24 GMT, JT <jett1not@homedot.com>, in
><378cb7d5.1553729@24.2.0.71> wrote:
>
>+ We are not all gurus, in fact as a Perl
>+ "newbie" I learn a lot from even the simplest questions.
>
>Ok, how do I fix my Saturn? that would be the motor vehicle, not the
>game station. Can you learn any perl from that question?
First of all I never said I learned a lot of Perl from every off-topic
question.
In the context of this newsgroup however, I find a lot of familiar
situations that I've run into myself. Your example is an extreme one.
This is not an automotive forum, and I wouldn't expect to find an
answer about fixing your car.
>
>How much perl did you learn from the original question? from what I
>was able to understand, the problem wasn't perl, but that some bash
>scripts where attempting to masquerade as perl scripts.
>
>I guess you learned that bash != perl...
Why be such a jerk about it? Thie original poster asked a valid
question. I'm sure it was asked in this forum because as a newbie he
could assume that someone else had run into this same situation and
resolved it. I realize it's off-topic, but it's a simple question -
what's the big deal?
>
>+ Lighten up, please. Not everyone is as perfect as you...
>
>I'd suggest killfiles...
>
>James
Good idea!
Add me to yours.
-JT
*I killed a 6-pack just to watch it die!*
Remove the "not" and delete the "dot" to reply
jett1not@homedot.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:24:36 +0200
From: "Ian Coetzee" <seccoza@mweb.co.za>
Subject: MYSQL - Help
Message-Id: <378defc1.0@news1.mweb.co.za>
Hi
Im a newbie to Mysql , but I think its the greatest invention since sliced
bread. Right now on to my problem
I have a sql database (Lets use a search engine as example) I enter querry
to recieve lets say
select * where name ='whatever.....'
Now it pops out 10 000 replies ? How can I say to SQL to only send through
the first 20 or those replies that match between 20 and 40 ?
Any help would be appreciated.
I do not visit the Newsgroups that much and would appreciate it if anybody
who has a solution to this to please email it to me . (Newsgroups in SA are
extremely unpredictable) My email adress is seccoza@mweb.co.za
Regards
Ian Coetzee
seccoza@mweb.co.za
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:04:55 +0100
From: "Clinton Gormley" <clint@drtech.co.uk>
Subject: Re: MYSQL - Help
Message-Id: <7mktak$641$1@taliesin.netcom.net.uk>
Ian ou boet
1)Read the manual
2) What does this have to do with Perl
The query you want is SELECT * FROM Table WHERE Name='Whatever' LIMIT
Offset,NumberOfRecords
eg LIMIT 30,20 = rows 30-50
LIMIT 10 = rows 1-10
Clint
Ian Coetzee <seccoza@mweb.co.za> wrote in message
news:378defc1.0@news1.mweb.co.za...
> Hi
> Im a newbie to Mysql , but I think its the greatest invention since sliced
> bread. Right now on to my problem
>
> I have a sql database (Lets use a search engine as example) I enter querry
> to recieve lets say
>
> select * where name ='whatever.....'
>
> Now it pops out 10 000 replies ? How can I say to SQL to only send through
> the first 20 or those replies that match between 20 and 40 ?
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> I do not visit the Newsgroups that much and would appreciate it if anybody
> who has a solution to this to please email it to me . (Newsgroups in SA
are
> extremely unpredictable) My email adress is seccoza@mweb.co.za
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Ian Coetzee
> seccoza@mweb.co.za
>
>
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Date: 15 Jul 1999 17:23:05 +0200
From: Thomas Jespersen <thomas@daimi.au.dk>
Subject: Re: MYSQL - Help
Message-Id: <y4n7lo2c4yu.fsf@tiberius.daimi.au.dk>
"Ian Coetzee" <seccoza@mweb.co.za> writes:
> Hi
> Im a newbie to Mysql , but I think its the greatest invention since sliced
> bread. Right now on to my problem
This has nothing to do with perl. In the MySQL documentation you will
see a couple of book recommendations. I recommend them as well. On the
mySQL homepage you can find links to tutorials. If you do not know
where mySQL's home on www is, just guess it, and I think your first
guess will be correct.
You can even find a newsgroup at the newsserver:
news:news.netimages.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:44:21 GMT
From: mmixon@primacis.com
Subject: Re: newby Q- how:perl script to cgi?
Message-Id: <7mkvkh$j8o$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
In article <7mjfno$2ke$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
monotone@my-deja.com wrote:
> I've been trying to create the beginning cgi's in "Learning PERL" by
> O'Reilly but I can't get my browzer to recognize them as cgi's.
>
> I've made them executables, given them names like "hello.html" and
> "hello.cgi" but they still come accross as plain text.
>
> What am I not doing?
>
I can think of many reasons why not, but your message doesn't provide a
lot to go on. I'll take a stab anyway: In order for a CGI to work, you
need to have a web server running on a computer somewhere. Somewhere
could mean your ISP or your desktop. If you need to install a web
server on your desktop, I understand Apache is the most popular and
it's free, though I'm most familiar with Microsoft's IIS (blush) for
win32, which is free for the time being.
Also, placement of the CGI files is critical: for security's sake, you
just can't run a CGI in any old directory, your web server must be
configured (told) which directories contain CGIs or sometimes even which
files are allowed to be CGIs.
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Date: 15 Jul 1999 14:19:49 GMT
From: gbacon@itsc.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: Old database is erased when I add new information
Message-Id: <7mkqm5$pld$3@info2.uah.edu>
In article <7micah$9l1$1@news.nero.net>,
stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
: In article <7mibhq$9j1$4@info2.uah.edu>,
: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu> wrote:
: >Hogwash. If I want to make modification to my Ranger and end up
: >damaging my truck, people would laugh me out of town if I tried to
: >force Ford to fix my screwup.
:
: What "people" would do is irrelevant.
How is what people would do irrelevant when we're discussing what
people would do in certain situations?
: The fact that you are in the Ford
: dealership expecting them to fix what you broke for whatever you offer
: them to fix it, and then start complaining in public how Ford is
: unethical for not fixing your truck is relevant. That is what this guy is
: doing.
Try to stick the point. You were talking about demanding free fixes,
but now you're talking about offering some compensation for a fix.
There's quite a difference.
: >They would laugh even harder if I
: >said that Ford is bad because they don't hold my hand.
:
: Some might. Some wouldn't. If you believe they owe you a fix, why
: wouldn't anyone else?
You don't really want to start down that slippery slope, do you?
: >A lot of this nonsensical notion of hiding the source from subclueful
: >customers stems from bizarre and bogotic expectations of programmers
: >that no one expects of other professions.
:
: Hardly. Everyone has a text editor -- they come with the computer.
So what? I have knives in my kitchen. I'm carrying a pocket knife.
If I were visited with the desire to start performing surgeries,
should that wish be accommodated just because I happen to have tools
that a surgeon might use? Would I then also be entitled to free
legal help to get me out of the situation that I willfully put myself
in?
Reductio ad absurdum.
: Not everyone has the tools to take a truck apart, and even if they do,
: there is no grease to clean up when you edit code.
There are no bones in ice cream either. So what?
Greg
--
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-- Ralph Mason
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Date: 15 Jul 1999 14:36:11 GMT
From: gbacon@itsc.uah.edu (Greg Bacon)
Subject: Re: Old database is erased when I add new information
Message-Id: <7mkrkr$q9v$1@info2.uah.edu>
In article <7mjn0f$2ol$1@news.nero.net>,
stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
: In article <87hfn6mzkm.fsf@a2b01118.paralynx.bconnected.net>,
: Brad Murray <bjm@a2b01118.paralynx.bconnected.net> wrote:
: >Everyone has *something* they could use to bash a truck to
: >pieces.
:
: Right. There is absolutely no difference between someone who thinks
: they can fix their truck with a sledgehammer and someone who thinks
: they can add a feature to a working piece of perl code using a text
: editor.
Thank you for admitting this. People who aren't qualified to do
work on automobiles shouldn't be accommodated, so neither should
people who aren't qualified to do work on code.
: Everyone who watches a mechanic work on a car sees the mechanic
: start by prying the hood off with a crowbar and removing the spark
: plugs with an axe, and nobody has ever seen a programmer use a text
: editor to fix code.
You're not going to get a title shot beating up on that straw man.
: Nobody would ever be confused into thinking they
: can add features without understanding the whole program, ever.
Are you trying to intimidate us by whipping that straw man's ass?
People can still screw things up by making local changes. One of the
most common calls to electricians starts when people try to wire
three-way switches for themselves and end up hosing it. It's just
a simple light switch, though. Right?
: And most of all, nobody has ever come to this newsgroup telling us
: that the programmer who sold him some code that used to work until the
: user tried fixing is unethical.
What's your point? There will always be people with stupid opinions
or who believe that which is demonstrably false.
: >I would certainly
: >be preparing a large quotation for any customer that came back after
: >chopping up my work and wanted their damage repaired.
:
: Good for you. That's your right. Just as it is the right for someone
: else to not want to deal with code broken by foolish users.
Good. We both agree that such users are foolish. Just do yourself
a favor and don't suffer a fool.
: Why is it
: that those who oppose hiding source are so free to tell others that they
: cannot do it, even though those who want to hide their code never tell
: others they can't do what they want to?
Poor little mistreated John. You might do better if you would.. oh, I
don't know.. *READ* what people write. No one is telling you what to
do; we're just pointing out your bad logic. ESR talks about when it
makes sense to stay closed. Visit
<URL:http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/writings/magic-cauldron/>
: >Perhaps better than hiding source is a tamper-proof label. Say an MD5
: >message digest of it or something.
:
: You missed the point completely. Your reputation is hurt much less by
: someone who cannot edit your code and claim you gave them bad code in
: the first place than by someone who can do that.
Perhaps you should consider another line of work if your reputation
is so shaky and easily toppled.
: Your time is wasted
: much less often by someone who cannot edit the code and demand you fix
: than than someone who can.
Your time is wasted much less when you protect yourself with a decent
contract. Time spent suffering a fool will always be time wasted.
Greg
--
Nothing inspires forgiveness quite like revenge.
-- Dogbert
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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 15:17:30 GMT
From: John.Borwick@sas.com (John Borwick)
Subject: Re: OVER 18 ONLY! 72808
Message-Id: <378dfb6a.11311014@newshost.unx.sas.com>
On 15 Jul 1999 09:18:40 +0100, Jonathan Stowe
<gellyfish@gellyfish.com> wrote:
>Except of course the majority of use will never have seen the original post
>because it would have been cancelled long ago .... And why didnt you
>remove the extinct comp.lang.perl from the response ...
Now those of us with killfiles have to read this thread as well.
--
John Borwick
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