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Mon Jun 28 10:07:19 1999
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 99 07:00:18 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Mon, 28 Jun 1999 Volume: 8 Number: 6154
Today's topics:
Re: Communication between CGI and apache <kjl@inforonics.com>
Re: Comparing two associative arrays <rick.delaney@home.com>
help!!!! execute a program in windows NT <edu@milenium.com>
How to start a thread in Perl <osman@focomedia.de>
How to use @ISA? <pkotala@logis.cz>
Re: How to use @ISA? <jpeterson@office.colt.net>
Re: Kicking off remote program <osman@focomedia.de>
Location: help <info@zoomnet.net>
Re: Location: help <jpeterson@office.colt.net>
Re: Mr. Christiansen (Lars Gregersen)
Re: Newbie question about Net::Ping (Flint Slacker)
perl CGI Redirection (Ben Short)
Re: please help, changing characters..... (Larry Rosler)
Re: printf and formate to wirte number in #.###,## (Larry Rosler)
Short Circuit Query <S.Webb@ftel.co.uk>
tests <toxid@rdtest.mm.atos-group.com>
Re: TIMEOUT <Ch1ckEn@hotmail.com>
UK Perl job vacancy Tim.Bunce@ig.co.uk
Verifying an existing file with a PERL web script frm_79@my-deja.com
Re: Win32::OLE help needed (Michel Dalle)
Zeus Editor Version 3.0 Beta <xidicone@iname.com>
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:41:52 -0400
From: "Kurt J. Lanza" <kjl@inforonics.com>
Subject: Re: Communication between CGI and apache
Message-Id: <37777BA0.AC38D849@inforonics.com>
weixian_shen@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> I am writing a web search engine. It search engine is very
> CPU intensive, and may take up to 2~3 min to complete. I would
> like to stop the search when users become inpatient and hit
> the "STOP" button on the browser. Is there a way to detect that
> from the CGI? I thought apache will send a SIGPIPE or SIGHUP,
> but it doesn't. Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
>
This is a common problme without a common solution. Your CPU-intensive
program only gets a SIGPIPE when the OS detects it, which is when your
program tries to output something and the output fails because the
browser has broken the connection (ie, is no longer listening for data).
You might investigate using the META refresh hack to have the browser
check for completion every few seconds. But that requires something of a
redesign because now you are talking about multiple requests. Idunno.
But knowing what's happening might help.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:50:21 GMT
From: Rick Delaney <rick.delaney@home.com>
Subject: Re: Comparing two associative arrays
Message-Id: <37776F51.63D18794@home.com>
[posted & mailed]
Bart Lateur wrote:
>
> bAbigail wrote:
>
> >However, Bart is wrong, and Larry is right.
>
[snip]
> In short: it's not a good idea.
Thanks, Bart. There's nothing like a wrong answer to stimulate correct
ones. :-)
Thanks also to all who provided counter-examples.
--
Rick Delaney
rick.delaney@home.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:50:03 +0200
From: "Edu" <edu@milenium.com>
Subject: help!!!! execute a program in windows NT
Message-Id: <930577640.86423@srv6>
How can i execute a program form a perl program in windows NT????
Thanks!!!!
--
Eduardo Hidalgo Pelegrina
OgilvyInteractive
eduardo.hidalgo@OgilvyInteractive.es
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:37:49 +0200
From: osman durrani <osman@focomedia.de>
Subject: How to start a thread in Perl
Message-Id: <37777AAC.90A7F3CF@focomedia.de>
Hi people,
could anyone tell me how to do start a function in a thread in perl ?.I
have perl on NT and cant do a fork.
Thanx in advance
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:08:01 +0200
From: "Pavel Kotala" <pkotala@logis.cz>
Subject: How to use @ISA?
Message-Id: <930571928.753360@gate.logis.cz>
I have written script:
package X::a;
@ISA = qw( X);
use strict;
package X::b;
@ISA = qw( X);
use strict;
package X;
sub print
{
print "OK\n";
}
package main;
X::a->print;
X::b->print;
X->print;
and receive error
C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe /c perl -w test1.pl
Global symbol "@ISA" requires explicit package name at test1.pl line 7.
BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at test1.pl line 8.
255 returned
Hit any key to close this window...
Does anybody know, where have I made mistake? If using of @ISA is wrong -
Can I define object and its child objects in one file? How?
Thank You
Pavel Kotala
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:27:51 GMT
From: <jpeterson@office.colt.net>
Subject: Re: How to use @ISA?
Message-Id: <rLKd3.551$TM6.3594@news.colt.net>
Pavel Kotala <pkotala@logis.cz> wrote:
> I have written script:
> package X::a;
> @ISA = qw( X);
> use strict;
> and receive error
> Global symbol "@ISA" requires explicit package name at test1.pl line 7.
> BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at test1.pl line 8.
Just because @ISA is global in a package doesn't mean you don't have to declare
it explicitly. Either do this:
@X::a::ISA = qw( X);
or else do it like this:
use vars qw(@ISA);
@ISA = qw( X);
The first form may be easier if this is the only global in the package, but if
there will be several, then the 'use vars...' form allows a reader to see at
a glance what globals are defined in your package, without having to read all
the way through.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:00:14 +0200
From: osman durrani <osman@focomedia.de>
Subject: Re: Kicking off remote program
Message-Id: <377771DE.1569FD10@focomedia.de>
Hi,
This is what i have recently implemented. You write a small perl script which
listens on one Port (using the Socket Module) then from the local maschine you
send data to the other script. You can call the remote programm via the URL of
thet script.
SfpcC wrote:
> Newbie post (got several programs running and am greatly impressed with Perl
> & its community):
>
> I want to be able to kick off either a .bat job or .pl program from one NT
> server to another (also WinNT). The far end is complete (checks if tape
> drive is empty using a utility that MUST run on the far server from the
> command line. I MUST be able to kick it off from the local server at various
> (different)_ times and can't leave a mess of AT jobs. The next project is
> something similar, but to run an existing utility to check the status of
> each drive in a Raid5 array (also runs from the command line on the remote
> server).
>
> What would be the most secure and cleanest means to do this with perl? If a
> module is involved, which one?
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:23:55 -0400
From: "Info" <info@zoomnet.net>
Subject: Location: help
Message-Id: <930575585.946.63@news.remarQ.com>
ok this what i need hopefully some of you guru's can help.
i have script that runs in a frame and i want use the location command to
pull up a new page but i want it to goto t\another frame so the script will
continue to run can this be done .???
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:36:34 GMT
From: <jpeterson@office.colt.net>
Subject: Re: Location: help
Message-Id: <CTKd3.553$TM6.3594@news.colt.net>
Info <info@zoomnet.net> wrote:
> ok this what i need hopefully some of you guru's can help.
> i have script that runs in a frame and i want use the location command to
> pull up a new page but i want it to goto t\another frame so the script will
> continue to run can this be done .???
Quite possibly, but it has nothing to do with Perl. Look for information on
browers, HTML, frames, and the CGI interface.
Javascript may also be a useful tool to solve this problem.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:27:56 GMT
From: lg@kt.dtu.dk (Lars Gregersen)
Subject: Re: Mr. Christiansen
Message-Id: <377767ac.23688565@news.dtu.dk>
[posted and mailed]
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:36:57 -0400, "Laran Coates" <lcoates@bu.edu>
wrote:
>I am trying to write a script to generate pages based on form input. I know
>that this is one of the more common utilities on the web. However, I'm
>still new to perl and am having quite a bit of trouble writing this script.
[snipped a lot]
There is nobody who is going to give you a full answer to your many
questions. It is true that your problem is not hard to solve for
someone experinced in Perl (or some other suitable language), but no
body here is going to write the programme for you (for free that is).
I will try to give you a few pointers:
- do you know any programming? If not then take a class in programming
or pick up a beginners book and learn everything in it.
- Make a few very small programmes. These programmes could spit out
the numbers from 1 to 10. Write a string backwards. Write something to
a file and read it back in again. Read some input from the keybaord
and print it to the screen.
- As you have noted all of these exercises mention nothing about CGI,
the web, forms, mail etc.
- Read the FAQ for perl and the documentation that comes with perl
that you haven't read while writing your small exercise programmes.
All of the documentation that comes with perl is good and accurate,
but you basically need to read it all to know what perl is about.
- Learn about how to write and use modules. Look at the list of
modules to see if there is something you can use.
- Break up you problem into small pieces. Do not move on until you
have all the pieces working seperately.
- Make a programme that can read something (simple) from a form and
send a response back. Find a way to process the input from the form to
make it look like you want it. Make a programme that can send a string
by E-mail.
- When you are sure that you know what you are doing and that no-one
can exploit you code in malicious ways put the parts together and test
it thoroughly.
I hope this helps
Lars
------------------------------
Lars Gregersen (lg@kt.dtu.dk)
http://www.gbar.dtu.dk/~matlg
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:19:32 GMT
From: flint@tcn.net (Flint Slacker)
Subject: Re: Newbie question about Net::Ping
Message-Id: <377b9ece.1381912@news.remarq.com>
I remember fighting with ping once, it ended up that the unix boxes
use to tcp where the routers udc and the NT boxes icmp. Everything
seemed to work fine after that.
Flint
On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:29:25 GMT, D.Millin@BTInternet.com (Darren
Millin) wrote:
>I am using ActiveState 517 on a machine running Windows 95.
>This machine is connected to a network that allows users to
>access and oracle database running on unix.
>
>I am currently trying to create a script that will ping all the
>machines on the network. So far this script works at home :
>
>
>use Net::Ping;
>
># file containing ip addresses
>$Input = 'ip.txt';
>
>open (IN,$Input);
>
>$p = Net::Ping->new("icmp");
>
>while(<IN>){
>
> if ($p->ping($_,2)){
> print "$_ is alive.\n"
> }
>
>}
>
>$p->close();
>
>close(IN);
>
>$Pause = <STDIN>;
>
>
>When I use this script in work, half the machines that I ping
>don't respond. When I ping using the ping command in windows,
>the machines that don't respond are reachable.
>
>I have tried various timeout values and protocol, but this does
>not make a difference. Does anyone have any suggestions.
>
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Darren Millin
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:55:10 +1000
From: bshort@n0spam.shortboy.dhs.org (Ben Short)
Subject: perl CGI Redirection
Message-Id: <MPG.11e21bb9abddcfe79896b7@loomi.telstra.net>
Hi,
I was wondering if anybody has out there a *free* URL redirection script
that also does "seamless redirection" (that is, user sees foo.org, but
files are at someotherplace.com/~someuser/somedir/file.htm)
The only scripts I can see like this are either commercial, or are simply
creating a page with a META HTTP-EQUIV Refresh in them, which dont allow
for seamless redirection.
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
Regards
Ben
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:55:00 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: please help, changing characters.....
Message-Id: <MPG.11e11e8434a4d054989c63@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[Posted and a courtesy copy sent.]
In article <7l7mko$egp$1@nnrp1.deja.com> on Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:34:48
GMT, hamed53@my-deja.com <hamed53@my-deja.com> says...
> i have this string:
> "begin-farsi hello hamed -f-RuAO-f- -f-tAsX-f- end-farsi";
> as you can see this string is formated like this:
> "begin-farsi" + normal text (hello hamed) + "-f-some text-f-" + "-f-
> some text-f-" end-farsi
> i might have unlimited number of these "-f-some text-f-".
> the -f- tells me to change the characters to what ever i want (or
> convert them) in side the to -f-s
> for example "-f-RuAO-f-" to "-f-QWRd-f-"
> so at the end i want to have some thing like this:
> "begin-farsi hello hamed QWRd SDfd end-farsi";
#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
use strict;
my %conv = ( RuAO => 'QWRd', tAsX => 'SDfd' );
$_ = 'begin-farsi hello hamed -f-RuAO-f- -f-tAsX-f- end-farsi';
s/-f-(\w{4})-f-/$conv{$1}/g;
print;
__END__
This does exactly what you ask, and may give you some ideas for how to
solve the problem in general. It is not robust, in the sense that it
doesn't check for failure to find the substitution in the lookup table.
That might require something like this:
s/-f-(\w{4})-f-/$conv{$1} || $1/eg;
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 06:38:03 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: printf and formate to wirte number in #.###,##
Message-Id: <MPG.11e11a7ef4392245989c62@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
[Posted and a courtesy copy sent.]
In article <7l7hu6$roe$1@ffx2nh5.news.uu.net> on Mon, 28 Jun 1999
12:14:18 +0200, Claudio Villa Santa <claudio@elettrodata.it> says...
> Hi,
>
> I have't understund how i can format a number using printf , I search an
> explample but I don't find it.
>
> Some one can send me an example to format a number in following mode:
>
> #.###,## ( 1.896,45 ) ( in Italy we use point to separate thousand )
Approach 1:
a. Read perlfaq4: "Does Perl have a round() function? ..."
b. Read perlfaq5: "How can I output my numbers with commas added?"
c. tr/,./.,/;
Approach 2:
Read perllocale, which deals with doing this all automatically.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:53:30 +0100
From: Steve Webb <S.Webb@ftel.co.uk>
Subject: Short Circuit Query
Message-Id: <37777E5A.A0E2AEEA@ftel.co.uk>
Is there a way round short circuit in perl ?
if (fred_is_alive() || tom_is_alive()) {
buddies_are_alive();
}
I'd like to structure the code this way and enter the if block if either
tom or fred is alive, but have both functions execute. Am I stuck with a
code restructure or is there some special operator I don't know about,
or even a neat trick with parenthesis.
--
--Steve Webb--0121 717 6142--S.Webb@ftel.co.uk--
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 15:42:26 +0200
From: "moi" <toxid@rdtest.mm.atos-group.com>
Subject: tests
Message-Id: <824F4EA25713D311B1740000D11A1E05549FCC@grp-nt1.segin.com>
Can anyone send me back e-mails?
Please forgive me to post in your group... It's for some tests..
I need to improve my own smtp server.
Thanks a lot!
Gasp.
gaspard@rdtest.mm.atos-group.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:34:51 +0000
From: GiN <Ch1ckEn@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: TIMEOUT
Message-Id: <377779FA.5546E816@hotmail.com>
>
i have another problem.
sometimes when i make a connection with "telnet" i get a timeout.
so when i use this perl script it just hang and dont give me a timeout
error
how can i solve this?
sub opsoc {
chop($hostname = 'hostname');
($name, $aliases, $proto) = getprotobyname('tcp');
($name, $aliases, $port) = getservbyname($port,'tcp')
unless $port =~ /^\d+$/;
print "\nConnecting to SMTP server";
($name, $aliases, $type, $len, $thisaddr) = gethostbyname($hostname);
($name, $aliases, $type, $len, $thataddr) = gethostbyname($server);
if (socket(S, AF_INET, SOCK_STREAM, $proto)) {
print ".";
}
else {
print "\nSocket error. Exitting.\n\n";
exit(0);
}
$sockaddr = 'S n a4 x8';
$this = pack($sockaddr, AF_INET, 0, $thisaddr);
$that = pack($sockaddr, AF_INET, $port, $thataddr);
if (bind(S, $this)) {
print "..";
}
else {
die $!;
}
if (connect(S, $that)) {
print "Connected.\n";
}
else {
print "\nConnection refused.\n\n";
exit(0);
}
}
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:33:28 GMT
From: Tim.Bunce@ig.co.uk
Subject: UK Perl job vacancy
Message-Id: <7l7tj9$gsn$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
The Paul Ingram Group has a vacancy for a permanent Perl whizz.
Founded in 1987, this small established software company is seeking a
talented Perl programmer. You will work for Tim Bunce and Jacqui Caren
on varied interesting projects. Mostly RDBMS, web, bulk data
acquisition, processing and reporting on Solaris with some NT.
By joining our team you'll be able to:
o Work in a happy informal flexible environment.
o Work with the best software tools and equipment. Whatever you need.
o Be part of an experienced team.
o Have as much responsibility and freedom as you can handle.
o Be noticed and have your work appreciated.
You will be expected to:
o Be self motivated and keen to expand and develop your skills.
o Accept responsibility and produce quality work you can be proud of.
o Be sociable, punctual and hard working.
o Be able to communicate effectively.
o Travel to clients when required (e.g., Leeds, Holland, Denmark).
Your work will be varied and there are many possibilities depending on
your skill set. Most likely immediate work will be for BT (DBD::Oracle,
Net::FTP, and lots of interesting high volume custom Perl scripting,
mostly Solaris, some NT), and www.SmartAxis.com (smart card e-commerce).
Fluency in Perl 5 is essential. Fluency in RDBMS, SQL, DBI and related
technologies is highly desirable, along with good UNIX and basic NT
skills. As work here is very varied, familiarity with one or more of
these would also be advantageous (in no particular order): Oracle,
FrameMaker, ClearCase, HTML, JavaScript, mod_perl, CGI, XML, Internet
protocols, ErWin, C, Win32::* modules, Ingres, Grafsman, Delphi.
Salary: 18K-35K depending on skills and experience.
Start: ASAP.
Contact: Tim.Bunce@ig.co.uk for informal interview any day/time.
Location: 140a High Street Godalming, Surrey (just South of Guildford).
Amenities: Godalming is a thriving attractive town in a semi-rural
setting.
Transport: 2 minute walk from Godalming main-line train station. Plus
buses.
Web site: www.ig.co.uk but it isn't representative of our main work.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:30:25 GMT
From: frm_79@my-deja.com
Subject: Verifying an existing file with a PERL web script
Message-Id: <7l7tdi$gr1$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Hello,
I have a script that needs to verify that a file exists in either Excel
format (.xls) or Word format (.doc) inside a directory, and give a link
to it. What I have it do is open the file with the 'open
(filehandle,filename)' command inside an if loop as follows (I'm
assuming that open returns TRUE if it opens the file and FALSE if it
doesn't):
$filename = "file";
if (open(FILE1,"../$filename.xls"))
{ print "this file exists in .xls format";}
elsif (open(FILE1,"../$filename.xls"))
{ print "this file exists in .doc format";}
else { print "this file does not exist in either .xls
or .doc format";}
This works fine if I run it in manually, but it doesn't if I run it
from the web. It goes to ELSE and tells me the file doesn't exist even
though it does.
The script runs from the /cgi-bin directory and the files reside in the
/ directory.
It is run in an NT machine with IIS 4 and ActivePerl 517.
Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong? I'm thinking about
having the script actually write something to the file to verify that
it opens it.
I'm a newbie and any help would be greatly appreciated.
Frank.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:24:58 GMT
From: michel.dalle@usa.net (Michel Dalle)
Subject: Re: Win32::OLE help needed
Message-Id: <7l7pli$kut$1@news.mch.sbs.de>
In article <t63d3.90$Tr2.551@news1.online.no>, "Trond Michelsen" <mike@crusaders.no> wrote:
>I'm writing a perl program to extract data from a number of Excel-files and
>I have run into a small annoyance. All the Excel-files contains automatic
>links to information in another workbook, so Excel pops up a requester
>asking me if I want to "update this workbook with changes made to the other
>workbook".
>Well, since this program is supposed to traverse through several directories
>containing about 500 Excel-files, I'd really like to cancel these requesters
>from perl, but I haven't got the faintest idea of how to interact with
>requesters from perl.
>So - any help and/or pointers to manuals will be appreciated.
How about looking in the Microsoft Excel VBA helpfile ?
Open Method
Opens a workbook.
Syntax
expression.Open(FileName, UpdateLinks, ReadOnly, Format, Password,
WriteResPassword, IgnoreReadOnlyRecommended, Origin, Delimiter, Editable,
Notify, Converter, AddToMRU)
expression Required. An expression that returns a Workbooks or RecentFile
object.
FileName Required String. The file name of the workbook to be opened.
UpdateLinks Optional Variant. Specifies the way links in the file are
updated. If this argument is omitted, the user is prompted to specify how
links will be updated. Otherwise, this argument is one of the values listed in
the following table.
Value Meaning
0 Doesn't update any references
<snip>
And believe it or not, it even works :-)
Michel.
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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:20:48 +1000
From: Jussi Jumppanen <xidicone@iname.com>
Subject: Zeus Editor Version 3.0 Beta
Message-Id: <377776B0.1C34@iname.com>
Zeus for Windows Version 3.0 Beta Release
-----------------------------------------
The Zeus programmer's editor has been totally re-developed and the
results of this full re-write are now ready in the form of an
early beta version. The Zeus Beta Version 3.0 should work fine for
Windows 95, Windows 98 or NT but at this stage it has only been
rigourously tested against NT.
For anyone interesting in test running the beta just point your
browser to the following web site:
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/6788/
But please remember it is beta quality software which means it is
guaranteed to still have bugs!
So what is new to Zeus:
1) New syntax highlighting engine should now support almost
any language.
2) New plugable scripting modules allows you to write Zeus
macro scripts using the Python, LUA or Small C macro
languages.
3) New configuration model now makes it even easier for you
to configure Zeus to do just what you want.
4) Enhanced compiler, project and tool support.
5) Improved keyboard mapping.
Jussi Jumppanen
Author of: Zeus for Windows, Win32 (Brief, WordStar, Emacs) Text Editor
"The C/C++, Java, HTML, Pascal, Cobol, Fortran programmers text editor"
Home Page: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jussi/
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