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Mon Jun 21 12:07:31 1999

Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 09:00:20 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest           Mon, 21 Jun 1999     Volume: 8 Number: 6076

Today's topics:
    Re: a thread on threads <gbartels@xli.com>
    Re: cgi query error <uucon@my-deja.com>
    Re: CGI.pm: submit + image? <martin@adoma.se>
        compare two big files? bing-du@tamu.edu
    Re: ENV Question doug_brough@my-deja.com
    Re: Fixed format fields: help needed! (J. Moreno)
    Re: how to test pl scripts.? <dave@dave.org.uk>
    Re: Interpreting MS-ASCII - anyone have a filter? (Tad McClellan)
    Re: Interpreting MS-ASCII - anyone have a filter? <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
    Re: Interpreting MS-ASCII - anyone have a filter? (Kenny McCormack)
    Re: Language choice for high-volume Oracle CGI interfac (Randal L. Schwartz)
        Looking for 3D Array sort... <park@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov>
    Re: looking for script to monitor acct abuse (David Efflandt)
    Re: Matching regular expressions (Tad McClellan)
    Re: multiple spaces and commas <Allan@due.net>
    Re: Need pointer to Regular Expression or Boolean searc (Benjamin Franz)
        New posters to comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
    Re: No Wait TCP on Internet Sockets <ddss@usa.net>
        Perl Compiling, executables, and integration with C/C++ <mayes+@andrew.cmu.edu>
        Safe expression evaluation <Marcel.vdLaan@ehv.sc.philips.com>
    Re: Safe expression evaluation <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
    Re: Search script performance (Benjamin Franz)
        Sending a mail from LOTUS NOTE (winNT) <mgangloff@framacom.com>
        Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
    Re: Temporary file <pandich@my-deja.com>
    Re: Temporary file mikecard@my-deja.com
    Re: Temporary file (Arnaud Limbourg)
        Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:08:17 -0400
From: Greg Bartels <gbartels@xli.com>
Subject: Re: a thread on threads
Message-Id: <376E4751.27D80EA1@xli.com>

Kai Henningsen wrote:
> 
> gbartels@xli.com (Greg Bartels)  wrote on 15.06.99 in <37665807.ED751BBB@xli.com>:
> 
> > I dont need the two subs to run in parrallel,
> > I actually do _not_ want them to do that.
> 
> Sounds to me like what's really needed here are coroutines, not threads.
>
> And coroutines are ideal for situations where you have several interleaved
> algorithms running more-or-less independently, but don't really need
> threads.

yes, that would summarize what I need perfectly.

> Hmm, thinking about this ... how much setup would a Perl coroutine
> actually need? Sounds like it should be doable from an xs.

ya lost me there. what is xs? could you write this functionality into
perl?

Greg


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:46:02 GMT
From: Ryan Corder <uucon@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: cgi query error
Message-Id: <7klj76$c04$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

Got it now, thanx :)  Problem is now, the file that i am uploading via the
form is created on the server, but when i do an 'ls -l', the size shows up
as 0.

ryan

In article <slrn7mrffk.k1b.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com>,
  abigail@delanet.com wrote:
> Ronald J Kimball (rjk@linguist.dartmouth.edu) wrote on MMCXX September
> MCMXCIII in <URL:news:1dtpx8d.joved31sp1scgN@p7.tc8.metro.ma.tiac.com>:
> @@ Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com> wrote:
> @@
> @@ > What didnt you understand about :
> @@ >
> @@ >
> @@ >        Can't call method """"%s"""" without a package or object
> @@ >            reference
> @@
> @@ I don't understand why there are so many quotes!
>
> Maybe it's a piece of Python code?
>
> Abigail
> --
> perl -MNet::Dict -we '(Net::Dict -> new (server => "dict.org")
>                        -> define ("foldoc", "perl")) [0] -> print'
>
>   -----------== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News ==----------
>    http://www.newsfeeds.com       The Largest Usenet Servers in the World!
> ------== Over 73,000 Newsgroups - Including  Dedicated  Binaries Servers ==-----
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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:46:24 +0100
From: "Martin Quensel" <martin@adoma.se>
Subject: Re: CGI.pm: submit + image?
Message-Id: <7klgtd$9j2$1@zingo.tninet.se>


Peter Bismuti skrev i meddelandet <7kkd7r$838$1@news.fsu.edu>...
>I would like to use the submit function that display an image instead of
>the standard button and label.  I do NOT mean an image_button, which does
>not allow you to pass back a value with the name, just the coordinates
>where you clicked on the image.  I want it to behave *exactly* like a
regular
>submit button just with an image displayed instead of the normal labeled
>button.  Can this be done?  If not this is a major oversite
in...CGI?...CGI.pm?


I am reasonably sure it can be done!

Let me ask you a question....
If you want help with your car, do you go to the bank asking them to help
you fix your car?
If you ansvered yes on that one, do you go to the garage asking the car
repairguys/gals for a loan?

Lets say i work at a bank!
When you come in, asking me if i can help you with your (for example) engine
problem..what do you think i will ansver on that one?

Your problem is not a perl one... Its a HTML one.
Lets say for example that you have a script that outputs a HTML file..well
then the problem is still HTML related as long as the script prints the
HTML. If it doesent print the HTML, then its something wrong with your perl
script.

A perl question:

why does this not work on my machine!
print<<"HTML"
<html>
<head><title>quess!
</title></head>
HTML
(ansver: cause its a syntax error)

A Non Perl Question:
why is the background in the HTML file black?

print<<"HTML";
<html><head><title>
HTML question!</title>
</head><body bgcolor="#000000">
HTML


There are a lot of HTML newsgroups out there, if you ask your question there
you will have a higher chance of getting a soloution for your problem.
I am not that good at HTML, if i where i would have ansvered you, even if
you did post in the wrong newsgroup.

Best regards
Martin Quensel




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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:07:23 GMT
From: bing-du@tamu.edu
Subject: compare two big files?
Message-Id: <7klgui$b3n$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

Greetings all...,

Can anybody suggest me what is the best way to compute difference
between two big files in Perl?

I ever dumped files into two different associative arrays and use the
example suggested by CPAN to compare two associative arrays.  But
unfortunately 'out of memory' occurred.

I also tried unix system command 'sdiff'.  But I noticed this command
compares two files line by line and the result is not that accurate.
A very simple example here:

File1            File2
------           -----
x                y

The result of 'sdiff -s File1 File2' is:

 x | y

But according to the manual page of 'sdiff', I think the result should
be:

 x  <
    >   y

This is also what I want.

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Bing


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:54:18 GMT
From: doug_brough@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: ENV Question
Message-Id: <7kljmj$c5j$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

BINGO!!!  I did some further testing and your note describes EXACTLY the
behavior I experienced.  If I set LD_LIBRARY before execution,
everything was fine.

I'm using version 5.003 of PERL (DBD-0.44 and DBI-0.82). I used the
solaris trace command TRUSS and tried all sorts of things with my
scripts.  You can watch it try to resolve DBD/DBI library references and
you can see that the "original" library path is the only path used.  In
fact, if you use "Use Oraperl", it appears to me that this is the first
statement executed (no matter where it appears in the PERL script) and
thus can never be executed before $ENV{LD_LIBRARY_PATH}=blah.

Thanks to all who responded.  Hope this can help some others!

doug

In article <7k93nb$2i07@news2.newsguy.com>,
  kherron@sgum.mci.com (Kenneth Herron) wrote:
> On solaris at least, the runtime dynamic linker only reads
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH once, the first time it's used.  The perl interpreter
> is normally dynamically linked, so the dynamic linker initializes
> itself long before your script even starts running and changes the
> variable.
>
> We have two perl packages in use here, one based on 5.004_03 and one
on
> 5.005_02. The latter has a later version of DBI and DBD::Oracle than
the
> former.  With 5.004_03, you can change LD_LIBRARY_PATH before using
> DBD::Oracle and it'll work, but not with 5.005_02.  Presumably,
> DBD::Oracle used to start a separate sub-process to talk to oracle,
and
> now it doesn't.  Annoying, ain't it?
> --
> Kenneth Herron -- kherron@sgum.mci.com
> "Subversion has always been our best tactic...It leaves the
competition
> confused, and they don't know what to shoot at anymore."
>     -- John Ludwig, Vice president, Microsoft
>


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:45:56 -0400
From: planb@newsreaders.com (J. Moreno)
Subject: Re: Fixed format fields: help needed!
Message-Id: <1dtqyqs.tgy5b4kf3jd5N@roxboro0-0032.dyn.interpath.net>

Larry Rosler <lr@hpl.hp.com> wrote:

> [Posted and a courtesy copy sent.]
> 
> In article <7kjmm7$a5k1@SGI3651ef0> on Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:31:30 +0200,
> Juan Riera <juanriera@mx3.redestb.es> says...
> > I am new to perl. I need to format several spool files coming from an
> > AS/400, unhappily the output format shows the minus sign after figures; I
> > need to move it before the figures, without changing the figures column
> > position (is a fixed field output). I mean, for example, changing
> > 12     .34-   456.0-   123
> > to
> > 12    -.34   -456.0    123
> 
> s/ (\d*\.\d+)-/-$1 /g;
> 
> This deals with the floating-point numbers you have shown.  It would be
> somewhat more complicated to deal with any number.  You can find some
> regexes about that in the FAQ.

Not all the numbers are floating point -- and although the regex you
gave works with the input he gave, it doesn't work if the first or last
numbers are negative.

Assuming input more like:

12-     .34-   456.0-   123-

and this works better
s/( ?)(\d*\.?\d+)-/-$2$1/g;

Of course if I'm wrong about the possible input, then it's not any
better, and I should keep my mouth shut.

-- 
John Moreno


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:38:42 +0100
From: Dave Cross <dave@dave.org.uk>
Subject: Re: how to test pl scripts.?
Message-Id: <376E5C82.C70EAF53@dave.org.uk>

Zam Zam Begum wrote:
> 
> Hi ..
> 
> I am actually coming up with a mailer program using perl and looking for
> help in using this Perl. I would like to test it out by uploading onto a
> site. Is it possible to test it in a "testing" site .? Or are there any
> of such sites available.? And also, do i have to put my perl scripts
> under the bin/perl directory.?

Why not test on your PC? The best route would be to install Linux on
your PC, but if there's a reason why you don't want to do that you can
get Apache and Perl for Win32 and you'll have a pretty good test bed.

hth,

Dave...


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:54:56 -0400
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: Interpreting MS-ASCII - anyone have a filter?
Message-Id: <0lukk7.jeq.ln@magna.metronet.com>

Larry Rosler (lr@hpl.hp.com) wrote:
: In article <slrn7mqgou.k1b.abigail@alexandra.delanet.com> on 20 Jun 1999 
: 14:38:11 -0500, Abigail <abigail@delanet.com> says...
: ....
: > s/([\x80-\x9F])/$t{$1} || ""/eg;  # Replace all characters in the range
: >                                   # 0x80 - 0x9F with their translation,
: >                                   # squish it if there's no translation.
: ....
: > Note that this wouldn't work if there's a char you would want to
: > replace with 0.

:   s/([\x80-\x9F])/defined $t{$1} && $t{$1}/eg;

: Maybe someone should name this idiom after me.


   You're right.

   It is hereby dubbed Just Another Transform.

   :-)


--
    Tad McClellan                          SGML Consulting
    tadmc@metronet.com                     Perl programming
    Fort Worth, Texas


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:37:28 +0200
From: "Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@mail.cern.ch>
Subject: Re: Interpreting MS-ASCII - anyone have a filter?
Message-Id: <Pine.HPP.3.95a.990621161826.5311C-100000@hpplus03.cern.ch>

On 21 Jun 1999, Kenny McCormack wrote:

> The real point of my post is: What *are* the translations?

Is _that_ all you wanted?  Then visit
ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/
in particular
ftp://ftp.unicode.org/Public/MAPPINGS/VENDORS/MICSFT/WINDOWS/
for the basic data that you need.  The files that you find there are
machine parseable, so you can pop them into your code without risking
typos.  No doubt you'll already realise that the Western coding is in
CP1252.TXT 

Or use one of the excellent Perl modules that you'll find at CPAN
(no, I haven't checked specifically, but I'm confident you'll find
something good.  Just check that the "euro" has been included, as it's 
a relatively recent update.)


I suppose I should register a routine protest at your use of the term
"MS-ASCII".  ASCII is a 7-bit code (what was called "us-ascii" back in
the days when people used national variant 7-bit codes). MS have a
tendency to refer to their 8-bit codings as "ANSI", but I've never found
anything from the ANSI that justifies this usage, either.  Safest to
call them "MS Windows" codes, IMHO.   (Standard _DOS_ 8-bit codings are
different, OK?  CP850 for Western European locale).



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Date: 21 Jun 1999 10:03:06 -0500
From: gazelle@yin.interaccess.com (Kenny McCormack)
Subject: Re: Interpreting MS-ASCII - anyone have a filter?
Message-Id: <7klk7a$jh2$1@yin.interaccess.com>

In article <Pine.HPP.3.95a.990621161826.5311C-100000@hpplus03.cern.ch>,
Alan J. Flavell <flavell@mail.cern.ch> wrote:
>On 21 Jun 1999, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>
>> The real point of my post is: What *are* the translations?
>
>Is _that_ all you wanted?  Then visit

Yes, thank you very much for the URLs.

I know it may be hard to believe, but I'm actually one of those old
line programmers who can whip up code w/no problems, but still finds
Web searching and Yahoo'ing a bit confusing.

A pointer to the specific CPAN node where the program can be found
would also be helpful.


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Date: 21 Jun 1999 08:57:11 -0700
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Language choice for high-volume Oracle CGI interface?
Message-Id: <m1674hv960.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>

>>>>> "Lee" == Lee Fesperman <firstsql@ix.netcom.com> writes:

>> Why isn't "Perl" on "the list"?

Lee> Perl was on the list ... to quote the original poster -- "We're
Lee> debating what language to use for the CGI programming.  C++,
Lee> Java, Perl, ...?"

Lee> I was using 'only' in the usual sense. Perl was not designed and
Lee> is not used "specifically for CGI programming with database."

And the advantage to using a language that is a subset of another
langauge is...?

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:09:44 -0400
From: James Park <park@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Looking for 3D Array sort...
Message-Id: <376E55B8.11801D53@nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov>

Hi everyone.

I'm looking for a 3d array (list of lists) sorting module.  If you
know the location of one, I would appreciate it.  I've noticed that
standard module only has the 2d array sort.  I really don't want to
program one myself, so any help would be great.

Thanks,

James




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Date: 20 Jun 1999 17:42:50 GMT
From: efflandt@xnet.com (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: looking for script to monitor acct abuse
Message-Id: <slrn7mq9si.3tl.efflandt@efflandt.xnet.com>

On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:54:52 -0400, iha@cgocable.net <iha@cgocable.net> wrote:
>I am looking for a script or an example of code that can track acct
>abuse (multiple ip's using the same username) by reading an apache web
>log file, and sending an alert email to the admin We are running a
>5,000+ mysql jobs database
>
>thanks for any help

What sort of abuse?  Multiple IP's with the same username could be someone
with a dynamic IP (shared among many users) and a single IP with multiple
usernames could be a firewall or proxy.  And even if you have username and
password, what is to stop somebody from giving those to someone else?  For
example I could have my own IP, my work IP or hundreds of CompuServe
dynamic IP's not to mention unlimited email addresses on several domains.

-- 
David Efflandt   efflandt@xnet.com   http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/
http://www.de-srv.com/   http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 05:10:26 -0400
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: Matching regular expressions
Message-Id: <2ivkk7.olq.ln@magna.metronet.com>

=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Teegen (bjoern.teegen@gmx.de) wrote:

: Does anyone know the algortihm(s) that perl uses for matching regular
: expressions?


   How Regexes Work:

      http://www.plover.com/~mjd/perl/Regex/


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    tadmc@metronet.com                     Perl programming
    Fort Worth, Texas


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:29:27 -0400
From: "Allan M. Due" <Allan@due.net>
Subject: Re: multiple spaces and commas
Message-Id: <7kli9g$3l2$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>

Larry Rosler wrote in message ...
:[Posted and a courtesy copy sent.]
:
:In article <01beba65$049fd740$090aa8c0@winnie.sspl.net.au> on Mon, 21
:Jun 1999 10:40:17 GMT, Peter Lavender <plaven@idl.net.au> says...
:...
:> 06/19/99  10:33pm  up 12 days,  4:23,  6 users,  load average: 0.18,
0.14,
:> 0.16
:> that has multiple spaces with commas to finish looking like:
:> 06/19/99,10:33pm,up,12 days,4:23,6,users,load average:, 0.18,0.14,0.16
:...
:> I have read the perlfaq6 but most of it went over my head.
:
:You'll find this in perlre, not perlfaq6.  Allan M. Due struggled with
:splits, but your requirements are IRregular enough to require a regular
:expression.


Doh!   When you've got a hammer in your hand everything looks like a nail.
<g>

AmD

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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:14:29 GMT
From: snowhare@long-lake.nihongo.org (Benjamin Franz)
Subject: Re: Need pointer to Regular Expression or Boolean search package
Message-Id: <9Nrb3.734$i7.25249@typhoon-sf.snfc21.pbi.net>

In article <376E3E84.D294ABC8@incert.com>, Jim Cant  <jcant@incert.com> wrote:
>
>I need to find a library, tool kit, or such for regular expressions to
>incorporate into an application.  Any pointers to same will be much
>appreciated.
>
>Ability and perform searches on Boolean or 'natural expressions' such as
>
>        (ice cream or chocolate) and not broccoli
>
>is especially desired.  In fact, support  for this and not full
>regular expressions might be sufficient.
>
>Having source code would be a plus.

You didn't say how large an application you are writing (searching 30 pages
of text is a different problem than searching 300,000). I just released
an inverted index system (Search::InvertedIndex) that you can find
on CPAN (<URL::http://www.cpan.org/>) that is suitable for the search
side of large tasks (it contains support for full booleans, but no
parser for transforming text requests into internal requests). There 
are others there as well that might be better suited depending on your 
precise requirements: Look at the Text::Query group of modules.


>Another thought. Is it possible to link Perl in some incarnation into
>an application and use its capabilities as an under the covers engine?

Yes. Look at 'ExtUtils::Embed'.

-- 
Benjamin Franz


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Date: 21 Jun 1999 15:03:39 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: New posters to comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <7klk8b$e4o$2@info2.uah.edu>

Following is a summary of articles from new posters spanning a 7 day
period, beginning at 14 Jun 1999 13:47:18 GMT and ending at
21 Jun 1999 08:09:07 GMT.

Notes
=====

    - A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
      does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
    - All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
      considered to be the author's signature.
    - The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
      in determining the "real" email address and name.
    - Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
      volume to the total body volume.
    - Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
      <URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
    - Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
    - Copyright (c) 1999 Greg Bacon.
      Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
      alteration is not permitted.  Redistribution and/or use for any
      commercial purpose is prohibited.

Totals
======

Posters:  297 (50.9% of all posters)
Articles: 457 (19.6% of all articles)
Volume generated: 710.2 kb (17.6% of total volume)
    - headers:    334.9 kb (6,776 lines)
    - bodies:     367.9 kb (12,326 lines)
    - original:   281.5 kb (9,859 lines)
    - signatures: 6.9 kb (182 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.765

Averages
========

Posts per poster: 1.5
    median: 1 post
    mode:   1 post - 211 posters
    s:      1.4 posts
Message size: 1591.4 bytes
    - header:     750.5 bytes (14.8 lines)
    - body:       824.4 bytes (27.0 lines)
    - original:   630.8 bytes (21.6 lines)
    - signature:  15.4 bytes (0.4 lines)

Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================

         (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Posts  Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Address
-----  --------------------------  -------

   12    14.0 (  7.6/  6.4/  5.3)  Thomas Weholt <thomas@bibsyst.no>
    7     8.9 (  5.6/  3.3/  1.6)  Matt Sergeant <matt.sergeant@ericsson.com>
    7    10.2 (  4.7/  5.5/  3.4)  Marko Hoepken <marko.hoepken@sican.de>
    7    10.6 (  5.6/  4.4/  3.2)  Simon Wistow <simon@profero.com>
    6     6.8 (  4.2/  2.7/  2.7)  vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
    6    15.7 (  4.4/ 11.4/ 11.4)  gharris8158@my-deja.com
    5    12.9 (  4.4/  8.5/  4.7)  Watcher <watcher_q@my-deja.com>
    5     6.9 (  3.7/  3.2/  3.2)  classic_catering@my-deja.com
    5     8.0 (  4.6/  2.7/  0.5)  perfecto@ct2.nai.net
    5     6.3 (  2.8/  3.4/  3.0)  Neil <neil@pacifier.com>

These posters accounted for 2.8% of all articles.

Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================

  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Address
--------------------------  -----  -------

  15.7 (  4.4/ 11.4/ 11.4)      6  gharris8158@my-deja.com
  14.0 (  7.6/  6.4/  5.3)     12  Thomas Weholt <thomas@bibsyst.no>
  12.9 (  4.4/  8.5/  4.7)      5  Watcher <watcher_q@my-deja.com>
  10.6 (  5.6/  4.4/  3.2)      7  Simon Wistow <simon@profero.com>
  10.2 (  4.7/  5.5/  3.4)      7  Marko Hoepken <marko.hoepken@sican.de>
   9.4 (  2.5/  6.8/  5.3)      4  anno4000@lublin.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
   9.2 (  2.8/  6.4/  4.9)      4  argnon@argnon.com
   8.9 (  5.6/  3.3/  1.6)      7  Matt Sergeant <matt.sergeant@ericsson.com>
   8.5 (  3.5/  5.1/  3.6)      5  "John A. Grant" <zjagrantz@znrcanz.gcz.ca>
   8.0 (  4.6/  2.7/  0.5)      5  perfecto@ct2.nai.net

These posters accounted for 2.7% of the total volume.

Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
==============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

1.000  ( 11.4 / 11.4)      6  gharris8158@my-deja.com
1.000  (  2.1 /  2.1)      3  "Kevin Murphy" <MurphKE1@aplmsg.jhuapl.edu>
1.000  (  3.0 /  3.0)      3  GiN <Ch1ckEn@hotmail.com>
1.000  (  2.7 /  2.7)      6  vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
1.000  (  1.1 /  1.1)      3  "Oreg Dixie" <maistro@swi.hu>
1.000  (  3.2 /  3.2)      5  classic_catering@my-deja.com
1.000  (  0.4 /  0.4)      3  Ron Grabowski <ronnie@catlover.com>
0.990  (  5.3 /  5.3)      3  "master" <master@m.com>
0.957  (  2.2 /  2.3)      3  donath@my-deja.com
0.931  (  1.6 /  1.7)      3  sherifhanna@my-deja.com

Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of three posts)
=================================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.659  (  1.5 /  2.3)      3  Jeff Bowers <jbowers@bsat.com>
0.645  (  2.2 /  3.4)      3  erol.bernstein@owl-online.de (Erol Bernstein)
0.631  (  3.4 /  5.5)      7  Marko Hoepken <marko.hoepken@sican.de>
0.620  (  2.4 /  3.9)      3  "Ariel" <anita.villanueva@intel.com>
0.551  (  4.7 /  8.5)      5  Watcher <watcher_q@my-deja.com>
0.501  (  1.5 /  2.9)      4  "Bob Stickel" <bbgraph@mail2.ee.net>
0.470  (  1.6 /  3.3)      7  Matt Sergeant <matt.sergeant@ericsson.com>
0.434  (  1.1 /  2.5)      3  "nightcom" <farell@startrekmail.com>
0.287  (  0.6 /  2.1)      3  "AL" <pnkflyd51@hotmail.com>
0.201  (  0.5 /  2.7)      5  perfecto@ct2.nai.net

33 posters (11%) had at least three posts.


Top 10 Crossposters
===================

Articles  Address
--------  -------

       4  R.Pijlman@applinet.nl (Rene Pijlman)
       3  Steve Horne <steve.horne1@bridge.bst.bls.com>
       3  "AL" <pnkflyd51@hotmail.com>
       2  "Daniel W. Burke" <dwb1@home.com>
       2  Ulrich Mayring <ulim@denic.de>
       2  "C." <c_ferguson@rationalconcepts.com>
       2  "Spud" <spud200@earthlink.net>
       2  jonathan_wheelhouse@amp.com.au
       2  Lee Fesperman <firstsql@ix.netcom.com>
       2  kasal@matsrv.math.cas.cz (Stepan Kasal)


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:58:42 GMT
From: Perler <ddss@usa.net>
Subject: Re: No Wait TCP on Internet Sockets
Message-Id: <7klgeb$aso$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

Thanks Tom...
> > Can I just use Fcntl and connect in perl like I would in C/C++ to
> > open/read/write/close on a tcp socket?
>
> Generally, yes. Good luck with it!
>
> --
> Tom Phoenix       Perl Training and Hacking       Esperanto
> Randal Schwartz Case:     http://www.rahul.net/jeffrey/ovs/
>
>


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:21:27 -0400
From: Jonathan J Mayes <mayes+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Perl Compiling, executables, and integration with C/C++
Message-Id: <0rPYdb600UiB02CoU0@andrew.cmu.edu>

Hi,
    I'm putting together a little memo for my boss concerning perl compiling,
perl executables,etc.  I'm having a hard time finding anything in the
FAQ's or the general web dealing with these topics.  Also equally
evasive or any articles on C/C++/Perl integration.  Can anyone point out
a good site or sites to visit to aid my search?
thanks,
jm 



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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:47:52 +0200
From: "Marcel van der Laan" <Marcel.vdLaan@ehv.sc.philips.com>
Subject: Safe expression evaluation
Message-Id: <929976462.308788@dibbs3.eur.cis.philips.com>

Hi!

I am looking for a safe way to do expression evaluation, without the
overhead of a complete rewrite of a parser. I would just like to let the
input from a text file be something like:

if (defined _A and _B ne "txt") ...

where the expression would be converted to something like:

'defined(%S{"A"} and %S{"B"} ne "txt"'

Variable substitution can be easily done (variables have a leading '_' for
example). Then I though of just 'eval'-ing the whole thing. This is where
security issues pop up, right? What if the input would be:

if (system('rm *'))

I do NOT want this to be evaluated! Is this a 'tainting' thing that I should
look into? Does anyone have any examples of how to do this kind of
expression evaluation?

Any tips would be appreciated!

Marcel




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Date: 21 Jun 1999 09:01:41 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Safe expression evaluation
Message-Id: <376e53d5@cs.colorado.edu>

     [courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]

In comp.lang.perl.misc, 
    "Marcel van der Laan" <Marcel.vdLaan@ehv.sc.philips.com> writes:
:I am looking for a safe way to do expression evaluation

Please see the {qcpan,mox}.c[lg]i scripts mentioned in 

    http://language.perl.com/admin/whats_new.html

For examples of using a Safe compartment for this.

--tom
-- 
If you take Fred Cohen's definition of virus, then Unix itself is
one of the most successful viruses ever written, since it tends to
result in the creation of modified versions of itself on other
computer systems!  -- Gene Spafford


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:20:47 GMT
From: snowhare@long-lake.nihongo.org (Benjamin Franz)
Subject: Re: Search script performance
Message-Id: <3Trb3.735$i7.26136@typhoon-sf.snfc21.pbi.net>

In article <7kkf6a$db$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <rumple1000@my-deja.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have a Perl search script which takes a long time to find keywords in
>a bunch of files.
>
>The html files are about 3000 (about 2-3k each) and are stored a very
>complicated and deep structure of nested subdirectories.
>
>Would this structure of subdirectories affect the performance of the
>script which uses find.pl inside it to recurse all the subdirectories?
>
>Would this search be faster if all the files were stored in one
>directory?

Possibly. It depends a great deal on how your operating system handles
directories. But the real problem is that you are searching too many
documents for the approach. Linear searches tend to become unreasonably
slow over around 1000 documents. Above that, you should be using more 
sophisticated methods using indexes.

-- 
Benjamin Franz


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:31:28 +0200
From: "Michel GANGLOFF" <mgangloff@framacom.com>
Subject: Sending a mail from LOTUS NOTE (winNT)
Message-Id: <7klib1$do3$1@minus.oleane.net>

I'm using the script below to try to send a MAIL:


open (MAIL,"| mail test@oneaddress.com") ||
  die "Error: Can't start mail program - Please report this error to
test@oneaddress.com";


print MAIL "cgi-test script report","\n";

etc...

close ( MAIL );


The script is compiled and correctly executed, but the mail is not send and
the server tell me that it don't found the executable trying to be called
(MAIL.EXE).This script has been writed for UNIX (found in Teach yourself CGI
programming).Anyone could it tell to me what is the agent that replace
'MAIL' for a LOTUS NOTE server under WIN  NT???

Thanks a lot





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Date: 21 Jun 1999 15:03:38 GMT
From: Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.perl.misc
Message-Id: <7klk8a$e4o$1@info2.uah.edu>

Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 14 Jun 1999 13:47:18 GMT and ending at
21 Jun 1999 08:09:07 GMT.

Notes
=====

    - A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
      does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+)/.
    - All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
      considered to be the author's signature.
    - The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
      in determining the "real" email address and name.
    - Original Content Rating (OCR) is the ratio of the original content
      volume to the total body volume.
    - Find the News-Scan distribution on the CPAN!
      <URL:http://www.perl.com/CPAN/modules/by-module/News/>
    - Please send all comments to Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>.
    - Copyright (c) 1999 Greg Bacon.
      Verbatim copying and redistribution is permitted without royalty;
      alteration is not permitted.  Redistribution and/or use for any
      commercial purpose is prohibited.

Excluded Posters
================

perlfaq-suggestions\@(?:.*\.)?perl\.com

Totals
======

Posters:  583
Articles: 2330 (1108 with cutlined signatures)
Threads:  568
Volume generated: 4031.9 kb
    - headers:    1848.0 kb (36,848 lines)
    - bodies:     1978.6 kb (64,245 lines)
    - original:   1333.2 kb (46,871 lines)
    - signatures: 203.0 kb (4,227 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.674

Averages
========

Posts per poster: 4.0
    median: 1 post
    mode:   1 post - 342 posters
    s:      45.7 posts
Posts per thread: 4.1
    median: 3.0 posts
    mode:   1 post - 130 threads
    s:      6.1 posts
Message size: 1772.0 bytes
    - header:     812.2 bytes (15.8 lines)
    - body:       869.6 bytes (27.6 lines)
    - original:   585.9 bytes (20.1 lines)
    - signature:  89.2 bytes (1.8 lines)

Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================

         (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Posts  Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Address
-----  --------------------------  -------

  153   326.3 (175.1/ 87.5/ 80.8)  abigail@delanet.com
  149   251.5 (142.8/ 91.2/ 59.9)  Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@redcat.com>
  123   201.1 ( 96.6/ 85.7/ 40.7)  Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
   87   247.5 ( 70.9/166.6/145.1)  tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
   67    87.2 ( 56.1/ 31.0/ 20.4)  bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
   66   120.4 ( 54.1/ 58.6/ 34.9)  David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
   48    65.9 ( 27.1/ 38.8/ 25.6)  tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
   45    74.2 ( 28.4/ 40.9/ 22.5)  lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
   42    91.0 ( 36.4/ 41.8/ 18.9)  Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
   36    53.5 ( 31.0/ 22.4/ 13.2)  rlb@intrinsix.ca (Lee)

These posters accounted for 35.0% of all articles.

Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================

  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Address
--------------------------  -----  -------

 326.3 (175.1/ 87.5/ 80.8)    153  abigail@delanet.com
 251.5 (142.8/ 91.2/ 59.9)    149  Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@redcat.com>
 247.5 ( 70.9/166.6/145.1)     87  tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen)
 201.1 ( 96.6/ 85.7/ 40.7)    123  Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
 120.4 ( 54.1/ 58.6/ 34.9)     66  David Cassell <cassell@mail.cor.epa.gov>
  91.0 ( 36.4/ 41.8/ 18.9)     42  Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
  87.2 ( 56.1/ 31.0/ 20.4)     67  bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
  74.2 ( 28.4/ 40.9/ 22.5)     45  lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
  65.9 ( 27.1/ 38.8/ 25.6)     48  tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
  61.7 ( 25.5/ 32.1/ 24.7)     36  Greg Bacon <gbacon@cs.uah.edu>

These posters accounted for 37.9% of the total volume.

Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

1.000  (  1.1 /  1.1)      8  "Leonid Goltser" <leonid76@erols.com>
1.000  (  3.2 /  3.2)      5  classic_catering@my-deja.com
1.000  (  2.7 /  2.7)      6  vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
1.000  ( 11.4 / 11.4)      6  gharris8158@my-deja.com
1.000  (  4.1 /  4.1)      5  "Matt" <splinter@monmouth.com>
1.000  (  6.1 /  6.1)      5  pudge@pobox.com (Chris Nandor)
1.000  (  2.6 /  2.6)      6  pavel@asei.cz
0.997  (  7.0 /  7.0)     11  andrew-johnson@home.com
0.990  (  2.2 /  2.2)      5  seong joon bae <seongbae@students.uiuc.edu>
0.924  ( 80.8 / 87.5)    153  abigail@delanet.com

Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.431  (  3.6 /  8.4)      7  planb@newsreaders.com (J. Moreno)
0.418  (  1.5 /  3.6)      8  merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
0.405  (  3.0 /  7.5)      8  Ryan Corder <uucon@my-deja.com>
0.383  ( 13.5 / 35.3)      8  armchair@my-deja.com
0.367  (  1.7 /  4.5)      8  Burton Kent <burton@lucent.com>
0.345  (  4.8 / 13.9)     18  "Dave Cross" <dave@dave.org.uk>
0.313  (  2.1 /  6.8)      8  "Wyzelli" <wyzelli@yahoo.com>
0.308  (  3.6 / 11.6)      7  paulm@dirigo.com
0.300  (  4.8 / 15.9)     26  Craig Ciquera <craig@mathworks.com>
0.201  (  0.5 /  2.7)      5  perfecto@ct2.nai.net

87 posters (14%) had at least five posts.

Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================

Posts  Subject
-----  -------

   92  Afraid to ask about Y2K!
   37  Is it better perl than awk ?
   27  a thread on threads
   23  this  charecter @ ruined my day!!
   21  What is functional difference between .pm and .pl?
   21  File Processing
   20  newbie learning "my" declarations
   18  Perl "constructors"
   18  a thread on threads (the skinny on the schedule)
   17  my and interpolation?

These threads accounted for 12.6% of all articles.

Top 10 Threads by Volume
========================

  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Subject
--------------------------  -----  -------

 184.8 ( 87.1/ 86.1/ 58.6)     92  Afraid to ask about Y2K!
  91.5 ( 23.4/ 64.4/ 45.3)     27  a thread on threads
  89.9 ( 24.4/ 64.5/ 30.6)     18  Perl "constructors"
  65.5 ( 31.0/ 32.0/ 19.9)     37  Is it better perl than awk ?
  42.3 ( 17.7/ 22.8/ 10.4)     23  this  charecter @ ruined my day!!
  40.6 ( 16.1/ 22.0/ 16.1)     18  a thread on threads (the skinny on the schedule)
  37.0 ( 20.1/ 13.5/ 10.0)     21  What is functional difference between .pm and .pl?
  34.3 (  9.4/ 24.5/ 12.3)     12  Having trouble making this work...
  33.5 ( 18.2/ 13.4/  8.6)     20  newbie learning "my" declarations
  32.7 ( 12.7/ 17.4/ 12.9)     17  my and interpolation?

These threads accounted for 16.2% of the total volume.

Top 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Subject
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.958  ( 16.0/  16.7)      8  Variable substitution problem
0.927  (  6.1/   6.6)      5  Perl print to stdout not working...causes beeps.
0.913  (  3.8/   4.1)      5  Asking for passwords and security (core dumps)
0.903  (  3.9/   4.3)      5  Regular expresions as parameters
0.884  (  5.5/   6.2)      5  FEAR FAD
0.880  ( 15.8/  18.0)      9  Case select statements: are they in Perl?
0.853  ( 14.4/  16.9)     10  date formats
0.852  (  2.9/   3.4)      7  deleting part of a string
0.836  (  2.9/   3.5)      6  Perl Module query
0.823  (  1.9/   2.3)      6  s and tr

Bottom 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Subject
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.469  (  1.2 /  2.6)      5  About Apache Configuration
0.461  (  2.2 /  4.7)      8  PERL programmer needed for contract job...
0.461  (  1.9 /  4.1)      6  Match pattern - urgent
0.457  ( 10.4 / 22.8)     23  this  charecter @ ruined my day!!
0.453  (  4.2 /  9.2)      9  Simple question
0.440  (  2.2 /  5.0)      5  Personal Rant (was Re: Does Perl have a future?)
0.422  (  3.8 /  9.0)     11  saving uploaded file
0.415  (  1.9 /  4.5)      7  script to lookup phone number off website?
0.395  (  1.6 /  4.0)      6  math::Matrix
0.382  (  6.1 / 16.1)     14  SQL statement in Perl

155 threads (27%) had at least five posts.

Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
=============================

Articles  Newsgroup
--------  ---------

      50  comp.lang.awk
      40  comp.lang.perl.modules
      18  comp.lang.perl
      14  comp.databases.oracle.server
      14  comp.lang.java.databases
      10  comp.lang.c++
       6  comp.lang.javascript
       4  microsoft.public.inetsdk.programming.scripting.jscript
       4  comp.lang.perl.moderated
       3  alt.perl

Top 10 Crossposters
===================

Articles  Address
--------  -------

      12  abigail@delanet.com
       6  Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
       5  Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
       5  sb@engelschall.com (Steffen Beyer)
       4  jde222RemovethiS@iname.com
       4  "Nicholas Marino" <nmarino@home.com>
       4  "Martin Quensel" <martin@adoma.se>
       4  Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@redcat.com>
       4  R.Pijlman@applinet.nl (Rene Pijlman)
       4  Craig Ciquera <craig@mathworks.com>


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:48:16 GMT
From: Stephen Pandich <pandich@my-deja.com>
Subject: Re: Temporary file
Message-Id: <7klfqs$ala$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

Here are a couple suggestions.

It is REALLY easy to send email using the Mail::Sendmail module.

It is available at:
ftp://ftp.cpan.org/pub/perl/CPAN/modules/by-module/Mail/Mail-Sendmail-0.
77.tar.gz

This way
         a) you don't need to make a temp. file
    and
         b) you don't need to invoke sendmail via the command line.


Another solution is to just open sendmail like this:

open(mail, "| sendmail -f$sender -F$senderName -t");
print mail "To: bob@anywhere.com\n";
print mail "cc: joe@somewhere.net\n;
print mail "\n";
print mail "Test message!\n";
close(mail);


-Steve

In article <376e3126.20484411@news.bull.fr>,
  haytounet@my-dejanews.com (Arnaud Limbourg) wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i wrote a little script which purpose is to send a form content to an
> email.
>
> To achieve this i need to write the info into a file then send the
> file's content via wSendmail.
>
> I need to make a temporary file for each process, because two users
> can run the script at the same time i can't use a unique file.
>
> I tried using
>
> $fh = IO::File->new_tmpfile(">")
>        or die "unable to make temp file: $!");
>
> i also tried, form the perl documentation
>
> use Fcntl;
>     use POSIX qw(tmpnam);
>
>     # try new temporary filenames until we get one that didn't already
>     # exist;  the check should be unnecessary, but you can't be too
> careful
>     do { $name = tmpnam() }
>         until sysopen(FH, $name, O_RDWR|O_CREAT|O_EXCL);
>
>     # install atexit-style handler so that when we exit or die,
>     # we automatically delete this temporary file
>     END { unlink($name) or die "Couldn't unlink $name : $!" }
>
> The first function doesn't crash but t doesn't work because it doesn't
> send any email.
>
> I call wSendmail by
>
> $mail_command = "$dosmail_path$dosmail_prog -C \"-sMail devis\"
> -f$mail_from $mail_to $fh";
>
> where $fh is to be the file to send.
>
> The second function to know the name of the file, doesn't work at all.
>
> I'm lost, i am really trying to make this thing work.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>

--
------------------
Stephen Pandich
pandich@yahoo.com
www.pandich.com


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 13:40:29 GMT
From: mikecard@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Temporary file
Message-Id: <7klfcb$afi$1@nnrp1.deja.com>

In article <376e3126.20484411@news.bull.fr>,
  haytounet@my-dejanews.com (Arnaud Limbourg) wrote:

> i wrote a little script which purpose is to send a form content to an
> email.
>
> To achieve this i need to write the info into a file then send the
> file's content via wSendmail.


istead of writing the data to a file, why not just have the script
itself format the data as required and send that to sendmail (the other
way introduces an unnesecary step).

mike cardeiro


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Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:02:09 GMT
From: haytounet@my-dejanews.com (Arnaud Limbourg)
Subject: Re: Temporary file
Message-Id: <376e53b7.29334512@news.bull.fr>

>istead of writing the data to a file, why not just have the script
>itself format the data as required and send that to sendmail (the other
>way introduces an unnesecary step).


I would like to to do it that way. But they won't let me install the
Mail::Send module on the server. It was difficult to get perl
installes, so i don't even think of installing a module.


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Date: 12 Dec 98 21:33:47 GMT (Last modified)
From: Perl-Request@ruby.oce.orst.edu (Perl-Users-Digest Admin) 
Subject: Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98)
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Administrivia:

Well, after 6 months, here's the answer to the quiz: what do we do about
comp.lang.perl.moderated. Answer: nothing. 

]From: Russ Allbery <rra@stanford.edu>
]Date: 21 Sep 1998 19:53:43 -0700
]Subject: comp.lang.perl.moderated available via e-mail
]
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