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Fri Jun 18 11:07:30 1999
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 99 08:01:35 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Fri, 18 Jun 1999 Volume: 8 Number: 6043
Today's topics:
Re: perl on-line (Randal L. Schwartz)
Re: PERL programmer needed for contract job... (brian d foy)
Re: PERL programmer needed for contract job... <matt.sergeant@ericsson.com>
Re: Perl scripts slows down servers? <matt.sergeant@ericsson.com>
Re: Perl scripts slows down servers? <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: POD formating problem (Corrected??) <pavel@asei.cz>
Printing compound variables (?) vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Re: Problems with File-module <thomas@bibsyst.no>
Re: Recommend a simple Online database? <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Re: Recommend a simple Online database? <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Re: Regex Help Needed <admin@asarian-host.org>
Removing parts of a filepath <thomas@bibsyst.no>
script to lookup phone number off website? <pnkflyd51@hotmail.com>
Re: Sending output only to browser, not to user... (brian d foy)
Re: Source Control <marko.hoepken@sican.de>
Re: STDERR & Windows <dthusma@netscape.net>
Re: UNIX: ~name won't work on system() as expected <rick.delaney@home.com>
Re: UNIX: ~name won't work on system() as expected <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Variable substitution problem vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Variable substitution problem vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Variable substitution problems vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Variable substitution problems vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
win32 shortcut tool? <dthusma@netscape.net>
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Date: 18 Jun 1999 07:48:42 -0700
From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: perl on-line
Message-Id: <m1r9n91s51.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>
>>>>> "Tom" == Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com> writes:
Tom> In comp.lang.perl.misc, "Leonid Goltser" <leonid76@erols.com> writes:
Tom> :I want to try to run perl scripts (with cgi) on-line
Tom> Um, how could you run them *off-line*? Simulate Perl on pencil
Tom> and paper, or something?
I do that all the time on whiteboards across America (stuck in the USA
until my probation is over).
Perl 5.0 compiled for the Schwartzian Platform is a little buggy
sometimes, but for short programs, it runs just fine.
:-)
print "Just another Perl executor,"
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:38:41 -0400
From: brian@pm.org (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: PERL programmer needed for contract job...
Message-Id: <brian-ya02408000R1806990838410001@news.panix.com>
In article <929674042.206629@thrush.omix.com>, zenin@bawdycaste.org posted:
> Jeff Barringer <webmaster@kingsnake.com> wrote:
> : I need a PERL programmer who can build and implement a username password
> : system into an existing matt's wwwboard script system. Will pay by hour or
> : by job. The script needs to be built into the existing CGI script. Yes I
> : have seen Get Scripts WWW protection feature and it won't
> : work for what I need done. Please contact me ASAP
> : by email or telephone at (512)990-1092
>
> $ cat .htaccess
> AuthType Basic
> AuthName "Joe's Web Server Board"
> AuthUserFile /usr/local/apache/htdocs/wwwboard/.htpasswd
> <Limit GET>
> require valid-user
> </Limit>
>
> That will be a min one hour charge, at a rate of one pound of Peet's
> Coffee per hour. See `whois zenin@archive.rhps.org' for contact
> info. Thanks. :-)
you forgot to rewrite wwwboard. ;)
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:36:10 +0100
From: Matt Sergeant <matt.sergeant@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: PERL programmer needed for contract job...
Message-Id: <376A595A.17E02546@ericsson.com>
Raj Dutt wrote:
>
> Hi Jeff
>
> Just use .htaccess or an authentication scheme of your web server. It
> shouldn't take more than 10 minutes or so to set up and will meet your
> requirements.
His requirements might be per-board authentication, admin levels, user
add/delete functionality, etc (all stuff that ORA's WebBoard provides).
You don't know that .htaccess will meet his requirements.
Matt.
[Disclaimer: I wrote the NNTP component of WebBoard 4 - it's a perl
module based on NNML.]
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:38:25 +0100
From: Matt Sergeant <matt.sergeant@ericsson.com>
Subject: Re: Perl scripts slows down servers?
Message-Id: <376A59E1.20B9E614@ericsson.com>
Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>
> Perl is faster than Java,
What evidence do you have to back that up? Just curious (I prefer Perl,
but I'm aware that Java is faster now for some situations/solutions, and
that's OK with me :))
Matt.
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Date: 18 Jun 1999 15:48:56 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: Perl scripts slows down servers?
Message-Id: <376a5c58@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
moi <toxid@rdtest.mm.atos-group.com> wrote:
> that's the question...
>
I'm sure we could come up with one that does.
/J\
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:08:18 +0200
From: Pavel Hlavnicka <pavel@asei.cz>
Subject: Re: POD formating problem (Corrected??)
Message-Id: <376A44C2.C146A777@asei.cz>
Hi all
I took a look in Pod::Html. This module don't care for <P> tags before
new items in the =over section. If I add <P> tag before <LI> and <DT>
tags, all works fine.
Is that bug?
Documentation have to be generated with another version of this module.
(??)
Does anybody care for this behaviour?
Should I submit this as a bug?
(Sorry for stupid questions, I'm new in Perl world)
(perl -version
This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for MSWin32; :-) no other choice
yet
Copyright 1987-1999, Larry Wall)
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e-mail: pavel@asei.cz
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:47:48 GMT
From: vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Subject: Printing compound variables (?)
Message-Id: <7kdim1$hms$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
If I have this:
$one = "text and stuff";
$two = '$one';
Is there any way I can get to the contents of $one
by only accessing $two? Something to the effect
of:
print (some_method($two));
that would print the contents of the scalar whose
name is the value in $two.
Thanks.
Greg Preston
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:13:23 +0200
From: Thomas Weholt <thomas@bibsyst.no>
To: Tom Phoenix <rootbeer@redcat.com>
Subject: Re: Problems with File-module
Message-Id: <376A5403.B37703A6@bibsyst.no>
Yo!
Thanks man, it worked! It seems like it onyl apply to some cds. Have no clue
why.
Anyway, thanks again.
Thomas Weholt
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Date: 18 Jun 1999 07:31:39 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Recommend a simple Online database?
Message-Id: <376a4a3b@cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
In comp.lang.perl.misc, Neil <neil@pacifier.com> writes:
:I am looking for Online database options. flatfile will work fine.
Sometime in the last decade, old words have obviously changed meanings.
What's an offline database? An old-fashioned, paper, library card
catalog? Or just one that not plugged in? :-) Since when did "online"
become synonymous with "www accessible"?
I like to tell people about five approaches to databases:
* Flat text databases: use open, close, <>, print; Berkeley DB can
tie an array to them.
* Trees: Filesystem-based, hierarchical databases with fast indices,
like Usenet.
* DBM: (dbm, ndbm, gdbm, Berkeley DB, plus mldbm layering) all give
you a `hash on disk'. Btree bindings also available in Berkeley DB.
* SQL: databases are accessed with the DBI module.
* Large corpus/keyword in context: Glimpse and Excite are separate
programs that you run.
Each of these has its own set of advantages and disadvantages.
Many have turbo-charging approaches, depending on where you want
to put the optimization. There's no solitary answer that's correct.
But beginners I usually counsel to start at the top with the simple ones.
Don't forget to learn all about locking.
I've been thinking about working up a flatfile FMTEYEWTK culminating in
the approach used in the {qcpan,mox}.c[gl]i programs (well, and psgrep
from the Ram) linked to from the language.perl.com news pager.
--tom
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Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:03:21 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: Recommend a simple Online database?
Message-Id: <376a51a9@cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
In comp.lang.perl.misc, argnon@argnon.com writes:
:So even though I've been learning Perl, I've also been learning unix.
Consider it a bonus, unlooked-for skillset to add to your risumi,
thus expanding your career potential and salary levels. :-)
:I sincerely look forward to
:the day when documentation is more balanced for all readers.
Perl was written by, and by and large continues to be developed by, Unix
systems programmers. One of the first rules of writing is to write what
you know. I'm sure you can see how these matters happen.
Now, perhaps if you had more people writing about Perl who didn't
understand Unix, this might address your needs. On the other hand,
it remains unproven that anyone can do a good job writing about Perl
if they do not understand Unix. Perl is, after all, the ``Cliff Notes
of Unix''; its distilled essence, if you would.
I do know that I would trust someone who didn't fully understand the Unix
mindset to correctly present the power of Perl. Think of not just $0,
@ARGV, and %ENV, or the standard function set, but the tool-and-filter
approach magic <ARGV>, backticks, and the rest of the Unix model.
The most systems-neutral book I know, and the best one for teaching
programmers (read: not script kiddies) Perl, is Nigel Chapman's slim
volume, "Perl: The Programmer's Companion", in which he positions the
perl language as a companion to programmers in all walks of life.
As for the Ram, the decision to include chapters on systems programming
was highly intentional, starting with Chapter 15 and expanding to its
full glory in Chapters 16 and 17, then with systems stuff sprinkled
through the end. Now, I suppose we *could* have simply stopped the book
two-thirds of the way in, maybe at Chapter 13, but then we would have
lost a unique opportunity to enrich the DOS-damaged by providing them
with any real-world POSIX (remember the P means portable) programming.
That seems like it would have a disservice to the majority of Perl
programmers everywhere. Incidentally, the feedback on our including
systems programming work in the Ram has been overwhelming positive.
--tom
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:28:13 +0200
From: Mark <admin@asarian-host.org>
Subject: Re: Regex Help Needed
Message-Id: <199906181428.IAA10269@asarian-host.org>
John Frank <jwfrank@toad.net> wrote in message
news:GfV93.321$Ty4.912@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> I have 2 types of files in a long html page. They are
> quite similar. One is s_a***.html and the other is a***.html.
> I want to change the names of the a***.html files but not the
> s_a*** files. If I use s/a*\.html/a*\.xyz/g; it changes
> both files. I tried using s/\Wa*\.hmtl/a*\.html/g; but that
> won't work.
Nope, it will not. Are you saying you want to change the extensions of all files
starting with "a" and ending in ".html" into their current names with extension
.xyz? If so, here is how:
s/^(a.*\.)html?$/$1xyz/i;
That will do both .html and .htm files; drop the ? if you just want the .html
ones.
- Mark
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:56:02 +0200
From: Thomas Weholt <thomas@bibsyst.no>
Subject: Removing parts of a filepath
Message-Id: <376A5E02.1EE02FF@bibsyst.no>
hi,
How do I remove parts of a filepath? Like this:
/home/thomas/files/stuff/prosject/perl/test_app-v1.02.tar.gz
should become
/perl/test_app-v1.02.tar.gz
Tried to use stuff like
$destination =~ s/$string_to_remove//;
$destination =~ s/$string_to_remove//g;
I got the part I want to remove stored in a variable and it`s the same
part on each string, always the same contents of $string_to_remove.
Thomas Weholt
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:53:38 -0400
From: "AL" <pnkflyd51@hotmail.com>
Subject: script to lookup phone number off website?
Message-Id: <7kdj3r$kga$1@autumn.news.rcn.net>
Hello-
I have a list of 500 names and addresses and need the corresponding phone
number. I'm looking for a script that can pull the phone number off a
website like switchboard.com. Anyone know of such a beast?
Thanks, Al
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:40:34 -0400
From: brian@pm.org (brian d foy)
Subject: Re: Sending output only to browser, not to user...
Message-Id: <brian-ya02408000R1806990840340001@news.panix.com>
In article <376976C5.556DCC08@XYZABCxwebdesign.com>, Ketan Patel <ketanp@XYZABCxwebdesign.com> posted:
> I am trying to use perl to send a javascript source file by doing:
>
> print "Content-type: application/x-javascript\n\n";
> print "document.write('JS stuff here')";
>
> and include it in HTML pages using code similar to:
>
> <script src = "js.cgi"></script>
>
> It works fine, but if a user goes directly to js.cgi in their browser,
> it sends the file and asks them to save or open, in which case they can
> save the code.
>
> My perl question is, how can I specify that it should only be sent to
> the browser?
it already is only sent to the browser.
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:12:01 +0200
From: Marko Hoepken <marko.hoepken@sican.de>
Subject: Re: Source Control
Message-Id: <376A3791.D6170217@sican.de>
Rjack2 wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I need a source control method for Perl and Java code. I work on PCs mainly,
> but also do a little work on Macs and Unix.
>
> Any inexpensive solutions here?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert R. Jackson "Are we the masters of our
> Software For Humanity fate? Can we reach the
> Rjack2@aol.com distance of our past?"
If you are looking for a revision controll system, I recommend
"RCS" (stands for revision controll system.)
This is a free Gnu tool, and available also for Windows (CS-RCS ??). Check internet for
details. Maybe also for Mac.
Very easy to use, also differnet GUI's available.
For managing more complex projects, use "CVS", also a Gnu tool but fare more complex.
in real it is a better frontend of RCS.
Marko Hoepken
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:22:32 GMT
From: Darrin Husmann <dthusma@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: STDERR & Windows
Message-Id: <376A4AE1.A62E98DB@netscape.net>
Bart Lateur wrote:
> Carl K. Cunningham wrote:
>
> >I sometimes need to be
> >able to debug the SMTP connection. I can set "Debug=>1", and it provides me
> >with scads of information via STDERR, that zips right on by, and as of yet
> >I haven't been able to redirect it into a file.
> >
> >Any ideas?
>
> open STDERR>,'>logfile.txt';
>
> Bart.
two other methods are using the select function to redir STDERR to a file and
resetting STDERR filehandle to another filehandle (see adv perl programming pg
49 )
happy coding!
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:42:29 GMT
From: Rick Delaney <rick.delaney@home.com>
Subject: Re: UNIX: ~name won't work on system() as expected
Message-Id: <376A3E72.43D035E@home.com>
[posted & mailed]
Marko Hoepken wrote:
>
> # There is a user accout called 'hoepken'
> # ~hoepken is in real e.g. /home/users/hoepken
> # In a C-shell it can be accessed by e.h. cd ~hoepken or so...
> # for a directory entry it may be 'ls ~hoepken/*'
> # this can be done in Perl like:
> $test="~hoepken/*";
> @list=<'$test'>;
> print "@list\n"; # works fine!
> # now the problem cases:
> chdir('$test'); # DOES NOT WORK, stays in same dir,
You want to expand the names first and use the expanded names. You
already know one way. Another is glob:
$dir = glob '~hoepken';
chdir $dir or die "Can't cd '$dir': $!\n";
You should also see what perlfaq5 has to say in
How can I translate tildes (~) in a filename?
> print "\n";
> @list=<*>;
> print "@list\n"; # not the dir of ~hoepken but the one where the script has been called
Don't use this method to check the success of your system calls. Always
check the return value as I did above.
> system "touch ~hoepken/test.txt"; # fails! Reason: ~hoepken will not be expanded (my guess)
system uses sh, not csh. Use the already expanded home directory:
system "touch $dir/test.txt";
You should also check the success of this but it is harder with system.
Of course there is no need to use system if all you want to do is touch
a file.
Again, see perlfaq5,
How do I set a file's timestamp in perl?
perldoc -f system
perldoc -f glob
perldoc -f open (in case you're using touch to create empty files)
--
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Date: 18 Jun 1999 08:21:25 -0700
From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com>
Subject: Re: UNIX: ~name won't work on system() as expected
Message-Id: <376a55e5@cs.colorado.edu>
[courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
In comp.lang.perl.misc, Marko Hoepken <marko.hoepken@sican.de> writes:
>currently I am developing a kind of workflow program in a Unix (Solais 2<SNIP>
>Here I ran into an inconvenients by using full pathes instead of the sho<SNIP>
>Example:
># There is a user accout called 'hoepken'
># ~hoepken is in real e.g. /home/users/hoepken
># In a C-shell it can be accessed by e.h. cd ~hoepken or so...
># for a directory entry it may be 'ls ~hoepken/*'
># this can be done in Perl like:
>$test="~hoepken/*";
>@list=<'$test'>;
Why did you quote that variable? Do you know what quotes
are for? They're for making new strings! What was wrong
with the one you already had? Furthermore, those are the
wrong quotes.
>print "@list\n"; # works fine!
># now the problem cases:
>chdir('$test'); # DOES NOT WORK, stays in same dir,
I've said it before, I'll said it again. Why did you quote that variable?
Do you know what quotes are for? They're for making new strings!
What was wrong with the one you already had? Furthermore, those are
the wrong quotes.
>print "\n";
>@list=<*>;
>print "@list\n"; # not the dir of ~hoepken but the one where the script <SNIP>
>system "touch ~hoepken/test.txt"; # fails! Reason: ~hoepken will not be <SNIP>
What shell does system() use? Eh?
>system "touch /home/users/hoepken/test.txt"; # Works!
>`touch ~hoepken/test.txt`; # fails! Reason: ~hoepken will not be expand<SNIP>
Whoa! Backticks evil! Lose error messages! Bad!
Now, what shell do backticks use? Eh?
>`touch /home/users/hoepken/test.txt`; # Works!
>I would like to know, what the problem is (my fault??), or is there a ea<SNIP>
>handle ~username in Perl instead parsing it by myself and expand it by b<SNIP>
There must be something you don't like about the standard answer
to this frequently asked question as it is answered in the standard
perlfaq5 manpage that comes standard with every distribution of
Perl, but I can't imagine what this might be.
--tom
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:47:44 GMT
From: vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Subject: Variable substitution problem
Message-Id: <7kdils$hmm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I'm trying to separate the html portion of my
cgi's into separate files. But if I simply load
in and print the file
open (IN, "htmlfile.html");
while <IN> {
print;
}
close (IN);
it doesn't replace the variables named in
"htmlfile.html". Is there a way to substitute
values in for variables named in the html file?
(And by variables, I mean scalars)
Thanks.
Greg Preston
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:47:45 GMT
From: vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Subject: Variable substitution problem
Message-Id: <7kdilu$hmq$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I'm trying to separate the html portion of my
cgi's into separate files. But if I simply load
in and print the file
open (IN, "htmlfile.html");
while <IN> {
print;
}
close (IN);
it doesn't replace the variables named in
"htmlfile.html". Is there a way to substitute
values in for variables named in the html file?
(And by variables, I mean scalars)
Thanks.
Greg Preston
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:47:42 GMT
From: vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Subject: Variable substitution problems
Message-Id: <7kdilr$hmk$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
If I have a scalar which contains the name of
another scalar:
$one = 1;
$two = '$one';
is there a way to get the 1 to print using only
$two?
I'm trying to take most of the html out of my
actual cgi file and put it into separate files.
But when I read the html back in to the cgi, it
doesn't substitute the variable values back in.
Is there a way to get around this?
Thanks.
Greg Preston
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:47:46 GMT
From: vectorcalculus@my-deja.com
Subject: Variable substitution problems
Message-Id: <7kdilv$hmr$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
I'm trying to separate the html portion of my
cgi's into separate files. But if I simply load
in and print the file
open (IN, "htmlfile.html");
while <IN> {
print;
}
close (IN);
it doesn't replace the variables named in
"htmlfile.html". Is there a way to substitute
values in for variables named in the html file?
(And by variables, I mean scalars)
Thanks.
Greg Preston
greg@dns.kode.net
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:18:48 GMT
From: Darrin Husmann <dthusma@netscape.net>
Subject: win32 shortcut tool?
Message-Id: <376A49FF.E237952D@netscape.net>
attempting to run Aldo Calpini's win32::shrotcut tool. Doing the
install.bat, it returns :
Can't locale NT.ph....
I know about the h2ph (re: Cookbook pg.425), the issue I have is on my
win95 box,
there does NOT exist a header NT.h...so I submit to each of you:
has anyone got this (or any other) shortcut tool working on win9X and
NT?
If so, how?
Thankx
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