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Fri May 7 12:07:38 1999
Date: Fri, 7 May 99 09:01:35 -0700
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Perl-Users Digest Fri, 7 May 1999 Volume: 8 Number: 5594
Today's topics:
Re: procedure to convert sec to HH:MM:SS format (M.J.T. Guy)
Re: procedure to convert sec to HH:MM:SS format (Juho Cederstrom)
Re: procedure to convert sec to HH:MM:SS format <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: procedure to convert sec to HH:MM:SS format (Bart Lateur)
Q on www.extropia.com cart <tavi367@ibm.net>
Re: Q on www.extropia.com cart <hartleh1@westat.com>
Q Re Negation in Regular Expressions <william.fisher@nist.gov>
Re: Q: checking wheather the user exists (John Stanley)
Re: Reg Expression (Tad McClellan)
Re: Reg Expression (Larry Rosler)
Running perl script via browser <godzila@freemail.nl>
Re: setting PATH in BEGIN clause (M.J.T. Guy)
simple way for several if ( eq ||) ? sam@godzilla.wvn.wvnet.edu
Re: split, pop, and cut <uri@sysarch.com>
Re: split, pop, and cut (Bart Lateur)
strict pragma and G::Image::newFromGif(FILEHANDLE) <bwlang@nospam.genome.wi.mit.edu>
Re: testing expressions in the IF statement (Larry Rosler)
UNIX comands and switches in perl <jerryr001<NO-SPAM>@yahoo.com>
Re: UNIX comands and switches in perl <ebohlman@netcom.com>
Re: UNIX comands and switches in perl <jerryr001<NO-SPAM>@yahoo.com>
Re: UNIX comands and switches in perl <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Re: UNIX comands and switches in perl <jerryr001<NO-SPAM>@yahoo.com>
URGENT perldoc Sybase::* does nothing <lasteyrie@iname.com>
Re: Using LWP: getting the code for a website? (Bart Lateur)
Special: Digest Administrivia (Last modified: 12 Dec 98 (Perl-Users-Digest Admin)
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Date: 7 May 1999 14:43:06 GMT
From: mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
Subject: Re: procedure to convert sec to HH:MM:SS format
Message-Id: <7guu5q$q51$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be> wrote:
>
>Also, note that (s)printf('%d', NONINTEGER) also rounds towards zero
>(aka "truncate"), so you don't really need all that.
It's just an accident of the current implementation that it truncates
rather than rounds. So don't rely on that.
And I think Ilya's IVUV patch may change that.
Mike Guy
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:55:10 +0300
From: cederstrom@kolumbus.REMOVE_THIS.fi (Juho Cederstrom)
Subject: Re: procedure to convert sec to HH:MM:SS format
Message-Id: <slrn7j501u.hq.cederstrom@vortex.cede.net>
On Thu, 6 May 1999 17:54:13 +0300,
Juho Cederstrom <cederstrom@kolumbus.REMOVE_THIS.fi> wrote:
> my @time = gmtime( $seconds );
> my $formatted =
> sprintf( "%02d:%02d:%02d", $time[2], $time[1], $time[0] );
Me and my great ideas.
--- snap ---
vortex:~/perl$ cat ./secs.pl
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
my @time = gmtime( 86401 );
my $time = sprintf( "%02d:%02d:%02d", $time[2], $time[1], $time[0] );
print "$time\n";
vortex:~/perl$ ./secs.pl
00:00:01
vortex:~/perl$
--- snap ---
So 86401 seconds is 1 second. Fine. Really fine.
--
# This perl script will show juhoc's real email address
$_ = 'my e-mail address is NOT fi@cederstrom.kolumbus';
s/N\S+\s//g;s/(\S+)\@(\w+)\.(\w+)$/$2\@$3\.$1\n/;print;
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Date: 7 May 1999 16:21:21 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: procedure to convert sec to HH:MM:SS format
Message-Id: <373304f1@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
Juho Cederstrom <cederstrom@kolumbus.REMOVE_THIS.fi> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 1999 17:54:13 +0300,
> Juho Cederstrom <cederstrom@kolumbus.REMOVE_THIS.fi> wrote:
>> my @time = gmtime( $seconds );
>> my $formatted =
>> sprintf( "%02d:%02d:%02d", $time[2], $time[1], $time[0] );
>
> Me and my great ideas.
>
> --- snap ---
> vortex:~/perl$ cat ./secs.pl
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> use strict;
>
> my @time = gmtime( 86401 );
> my $time = sprintf( "%02d:%02d:%02d", $time[2], $time[1], $time[0] );
>
> print "$time\n";
> vortex:~/perl$ ./secs.pl
> 00:00:01
> vortex:~/perl$
> --- snap ---
>
> So 86401 seconds is 1 second. Fine. Really fine.
>
Thats alright its 1 second past midnight on the morning of the second
day of the epoch. just add 24 hours to it if its more than 86400 ;-?
#!/usr/local/bin/perl5 -w
use strict;
my $secs = shift;
my @time = gmtime( $secs );
my $time = sprintf( "%02d:%02d:%02d",
$secs > 86400 ? $time[2] + 24 : $time[2],
$time[1],
$time[0] );
print "$time\n";
bash$ ./timething.pl 86401
24:00:01
bash$ ./timething.pl 86399
23:59:59
/J\
--
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:31:12 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: procedure to convert sec to HH:MM:SS format
Message-Id: <373306f9.588576@news.skynet.be>
M.J.T. Guy wrote:
>Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be> wrote:
>>Also, note that (s)printf('%d', NONINTEGER) also rounds towards zero
>>(aka "truncate"), so you don't really need all that.
>
>It's just an accident of the current implementation that it truncates
>rather than rounds. So don't rely on that.
Tell that to Larry Rosler!
Larry Rosler wrote:
>> $timestring = sprintf("%02d:%02d:%02d",
>> int ($sec /3600 ),
>> int(($sec % 3600 ) / 60 ),
>> $sec % 60 );
>
>Redundant use of int()! :-)
Apparently, if you want to be on the safe side, it's NOT redundant.
Bart.
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 08:55:22 -0500
From: "tavi" <tavi367@ibm.net>
Subject: Q on www.extropia.com cart
Message-Id: <3732f0d0@news1.us.ibm.net>
Anyone with experience with the shopping cart at www.extropia.com?
If so, can we chat offline?
Walter
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:38:55 -0400
From: Henry Hartley <hartleh1@westat.com>
Subject: Re: Q on www.extropia.com cart
Message-Id: <3733090F.7A2D5050@westat.com>
[Posted and a courtesy copy sent.]
tavi wrote:
> Anyone with experience with the shopping cart at www.extropia.com?
> If so, can we chat offline?
I'd be happy to help if I can. You're also likely to get a good
response using Extropia's online Message Board at:
http://www.extropia.com/cgi/BBS/Scripts/bbs_entrance.cgi
Henry
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:32:02 -0400
From: Bill Fisher <william.fisher@nist.gov>
Subject: Q Re Negation in Regular Expressions
Message-Id: <3732EB52.25D0@nist.gov>
In implementing some spelling correction rules,
I want to change "grammer" to "grammar" except where
it's preceded by "kelsey". SO,
s/(\s+)(!kelsey)(\s+)grammer/$1$2$3grammar/gi;
This try uses !STRING as abbreviation for whatever
is the right way to say "any string that doesn't match
STRING". But it doesn't work, and nobody here knows a
way to do it. Do you?
If you can tell me how to do it, Email would be much
appreciated, since I don't hit this NG very often.
--
Bill Fisher
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Date: 7 May 1999 15:33:38 GMT
From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Subject: Re: Q: checking wheather the user exists
Message-Id: <7gv14i$ric$1@news.NERO.NET>
In article <x7iua5uzv4.fsf@home.sysarch.com>,
Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com> wrote:
> JS> No, no. Shadow does not map user names to uids, it maps user names to
> JS> passwords, and sometimes password expirations. Nsswitch.conf does not
> JS> map names to uids, it specifies which maps to use.
>
>i know that too. i was just stating things related to /etc/passwd.
I'm sorry, I was replying to a comment you made about mapping user names
to uids. I wasn't aware you were talking about anything that was related
to the password file somehow.
>and the original poster is long gone and may never learn about getpwuid.
But others are here, and correct information is important as a principle.
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 03:31:02 -0400
From: tadmc@metronet.com (Tad McClellan)
Subject: Re: Reg Expression
Message-Id: <mr4ug7.eq7.ln@magna.metronet.com>
pdean@pcmars.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote:
: Hi, I have a doubt please let me know whether it is possible thru' reg
: exp or not.I'm reading a line and looking for a word and if that matches i'm
: trying to take the value present in that line.
: eg.
: No. of input values : 12
: here i'm looking for input and i want to take 12 from this line if this is
: possible please throw some light.
: Thankx
print "$1\n" if /input.*?(\d+)/;
or, if the keyword can appear before OR after the "value":
print "$1\n" if /input/ && /(\d+)/;
--
Tad McClellan SGML Consulting
tadmc@metronet.com Perl programming
Fort Worth, Texas
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:54:26 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: Reg Expression
Message-Id: <MPG.119c9e7e5b2918ff9899f4@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <mr4ug7.eq7.ln@magna.metronet.com> on Fri, 7 May 1999
03:31:02 -0400, Tad McClellan <tadmc@metronet.com> says...
> pdean@pcmars.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote:
> : Hi, I have a doubt please let me know whether it is possible thru' reg
> : exp or not.I'm reading a line and looking for a word and if that matches i'm
> : trying to take the value present in that line.
>
> : eg.
> : No. of input values : 12
> : here i'm looking for input and i want to take 12 from this line if this is
> : possible please throw some light.
> : Thankx
>
> print "$1\n" if /input.*?(\d+)/;
>
> or, if the keyword can appear before OR after the "value":
>
> print "$1\n" if /input/ && /(\d+)/;
Gosh, Randal must be so pleased. All three who responded put in the
conditional before using $1. :-)
However, two of the three didn't notice that the questioner is 'looking
for a word' ('input' in the example) and omitted the word-break tests.
'inputting 12' shouldn't match. :-)))
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Company
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 17:36:06 +0200
From: peter <godzila@freemail.nl>
Subject: Running perl script via browser
Message-Id: <37330866.93FB7FE2@freemail.nl>
I was wondering if someone can help me with the following:
I have perl script test.pl, and want to run it via my web browser using
CGI or so.
Can one of you tell me how to make this script web enable or provide me
some URL were to find how to do this.
The script is running on a Apache web server.
test.pl
#!/usr/contrib/bin/perl
print "This is a test\n";
Thank you in advance
Peter
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Date: 7 May 1999 15:39:58 GMT
From: mjtg@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.J.T. Guy)
Subject: Re: setting PATH in BEGIN clause
Message-Id: <7gv1ge$am$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>
Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be> wrote:
>Andreas Karrer wrote:
>>Is there a special reason to do this an not simply write
>>
>> $ENV{PATH} = '/usr/ucb:/bin';
>
>"use". If you try to do it without the BEGIN block, the use-d modules
>don't use the newly set value.
Yes. But why does Socket or Carp care about the value of $ENV{PATH} ?
Mike Guy
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:36:11 GMT
From: sam@godzilla.wvn.wvnet.edu
Subject: simple way for several if ( eq ||) ?
Message-Id: <7gv19b$d2c$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
Hi All Is there a simpler way to do the following:
if ($name eq "BOB" || $name eq "SAM" || $name eq "CHRIS" || $name eq "DAVE"){}
Thanks
Sam
sam@godzilla.wvn.wvnet.edu
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Date: 07 May 1999 09:50:34 -0400
From: Uri Guttman <uri@sysarch.com>
Subject: Re: split, pop, and cut
Message-Id: <x790b1ugyd.fsf@home.sysarch.com>
>>>>> "BL" == Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be> writes:
BL> You can use substr() to get part of a string, or replace it. But you
BL> can't do both at once. I mean the functionality of splice for arrays:
BL> @ary = qw(a b c);
BL> @extract = splice @ary, 0, 2;
BL> which BOTH removes qw(a b) from the array, and returns it.
BL> You can't do the same with substr. This is the closes I get:
BL> $str = 'abc';
BL> $extract = substr($str,0,2); #extract
BL> substr($str,0,2) = ''; #delete
you must be using an old perl. 5.005 has a 4 arg substr like
splice. others (including me) have wanted that feature too.
and with both 4 arg splice and substr, you can replace as well as delete
while extracting. just remember, splice deletes by default while substr
doesn't.
uri
--
Uri Guttman ----------------- SYStems ARCHitecture and Software Engineering
uri@sysarch.com --------------------------- Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting
Have Perl, Will Travel ----------------------------- http://www.sysarch.com
The Best Search Engine on the Net ------------- http://www.northernlight.com
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:36:53 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: split, pop, and cut
Message-Id: <3737087f.979147@news.skynet.be>
Uri Guttman wrote:
>you must be using an old perl. 5.005 has a 4 arg substr like
>splice. others (including me) have wanted that feature too.
I must have been looking at the old docs. :-)
Bart.
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 11:43:06 -0400
From: "Bradley W. Langhorst" <bwlang@nospam.genome.wi.mit.edu>
Subject: strict pragma and G::Image::newFromGif(FILEHANDLE)
Message-Id: <37330A0A.CC87B16E@nospam.genome.wi.mit.edu>
this returns an compiler error complaining about how
FILEHANDLE is a bare word and this is not allowed under
use strict. Turning off use strict produces a functioning program
but makes me unhappy :(
Any suggestions for how i can tell perl that FILEHANDLE is really not
a bare word, but a filehandle?
thanks!
brad
here is my source if you care
if ($oldblue> 25) {
open G, "<g.gif" || die "Unable to open g.gif for reading: $!";
my $gimg = newFromGif GD::Image(G) || die "Unable to read g.gif:
$!";
$im->copy($gimg, 49,0,0,0,50,50);
close G;
}
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:37:01 -0700
From: lr@hpl.hp.com (Larry Rosler)
Subject: Re: testing expressions in the IF statement
Message-Id: <MPG.119c9a67792d23849899f3@nntp.hpl.hp.com>
In article <3732d489.18399106@news.skynet.be> on Fri, 07 May 1999
11:55:45 GMT, Bart Lateur <bart.lateur@skynet.be> says...
> Jeff Wilson wrote:
>
> >How about
> >
> > print "$x is less than 5 and greater than 2\n" if($x =~ /^3|4/);
>
> foreach $x (3, 4, 32, 43, 12345) {
> print "$x is less than 5 and greater than 2\n" if($x =~ /^3|4/);
> }
On the other hand,
foreach $x (qw( +3 0+3 )) {
print "$x is less than 5 and greater than 2\n" if($x =~ /^3|4/);
}
String tests for numerical values are futile.
--
(Just Another Larry) Rosler
Hewlett-Packard Company
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Larry_Rosler/
lr@hpl.hp.com
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 10:43:47 -0400
From: "Jerry Raynor" <jerryr001<NO-SPAM>@yahoo.com>
Subject: UNIX comands and switches in perl
Message-Id: <926088104.992.101@news.remarQ.com>
I'm trying to do a search using the grep command (which does case-sensitive
searches) with the (-i) it would return all matches regardles of case. I'm
just not sure how to format it.
@results = grep(/$searchstr/,@data);
(works but is case-sensitive)
I've tried:
@results = grep -i (/$searchstr/,@data);
@results = grep -i(/$searchstr/,@data);
@results = grep /-i (/$searchstr/,@data);
@results = grep (-i (/$searchstr/,@data));
all give me errors, anyone have any idea? or done this before?
Thanks!
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Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 14:47:43 GMT
From: Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: UNIX comands and switches in perl
Message-Id: <ebohlmanFBDAFJ.I18@netcom.com>
Jerry Raynor @yahoo.com> <jerryr001<NO-SPAM> wrote:
: I'm trying to do a search using the grep command (which does case-sensitive
: searches) with the (-i) it would return all matches regardles of case. I'm
: just not sure how to format it.
: @results = grep(/$searchstr/,@data);
: (works but is case-sensitive)
That '/$searchstr/' is just an instance of the regex match operator. You
can make it case-insensitive the same way you'd make any regex match
case-insensitive. perldoc perlop will tell you how.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:22:38 -0400
From: "Jerry Raynor" <jerryr001<NO-SPAM>@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: UNIX comands and switches in perl
Message-Id: <926090436.185.19@news.remarQ.com>
@data is a database of postings from users in various CaSe, other users are
searching from a web page $searchstr also using various cAsE. Controling
$searchstr using lc($searchstr) isn't going to help if that what you mean?
Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@netcom.com> wrote in message
news:ebohlmanFBDAFJ.I18@netcom.com...
> Jerry Raynor @yahoo.com> <jerryr001<NO-SPAM> wrote:
> : I'm trying to do a search using the grep command (which does
case-sensitive
> : searches) with the (-i) it would return all matches regardles of case.
I'm
> : just not sure how to format it.
>
> : @results = grep(/$searchstr/,@data);
> : (works but is case-sensitive)
>
> That '/$searchstr/' is just an instance of the regex match operator. You
> can make it case-insensitive the same way you'd make any regex match
> case-insensitive. perldoc perlop will tell you how.
>
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Date: 7 May 1999 16:28:19 +0100
From: Jonathan Stowe <gellyfish@gellyfish.com>
Subject: Re: UNIX comands and switches in perl
Message-Id: <37330693@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>
Jerry Raynor @yahoo.com> <jerryr001<NO-SPAM> wrote:
> Eric Bohlman <ebohlman@netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:ebohlmanFBDAFJ.I18@netcom.com...
>> Jerry Raynor @yahoo.com> <jerryr001<NO-SPAM> wrote:
>> : I'm trying to do a search using the grep command (which does
> case-sensitive
>> : searches) with the (-i) it would return all matches regardles of case.
> I'm
>> : just not sure how to format it.
>>
>> : @results = grep(/$searchstr/,@data);
>> : (works but is case-sensitive)
>>
>> That '/$searchstr/' is just an instance of the regex match operator. You
>> can make it case-insensitive the same way you'd make any regex match
>> case-insensitive. perldoc perlop will tell you how.
>>
>
> @data is a database of postings from users in various CaSe, other users are
> searching from a web page $searchstr also using various cAsE. Controling
> $searchstr using lc($searchstr) isn't going to help if that what you mean?
>
No thats not what he means at all - what he means is that you need to
cause the /$searchstr/ to behave in a case insensitive manner.
You need to look in the perlop manpage - specifically the section
entitled:
=head2 Regexp Quote-Like Operators
/J\
--
Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:51:31 -0400
From: "Jerry Raynor" <jerryr001<NO-SPAM>@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: UNIX comands and switches in perl
Message-Id: <926092168.915.100@news.remarQ.com>
I'm not familiar with doing that. I have no problem figuring it out for
myself but where can I get perlop manpages? (sorry if this sounds stuppid
but I haven't had to search for detailed info until now). Thanks for your
help!
> No thats not what he means at all - what he means is that you need to
> cause the /$searchstr/ to behave in a case insensitive manner.
>
> You need to look in the perlop manpage - specifically the section
> entitled:
>
>
> =head2 Regexp Quote-Like Operators
>
>
> /J\
> --
> Jonathan Stowe <jns@gellyfish.com>
>
------------------------------
Date: 7 May 1999 13:09:52 GMT
From: Laurent de Lasteyrie <lasteyrie@iname.com>
Subject: URGENT perldoc Sybase::* does nothing
Message-Id: <7guon0$e8$1@news.x-echo.com>
I have nothing when i use "perldoc Sybase::Sybperl". I should have a doc
umentation
but the only one that works is "perldoc Sybase::BCP". Does anybody got a
ny information
about the content of this documentation, or at least where i can find so
me informations
and example about Sybperl.
Thanks
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 15:34:37 GMT
From: bart.lateur@skynet.be (Bart Lateur)
Subject: Re: Using LWP: getting the code for a website?
Message-Id: <373507e4.823545@news.skynet.be>
Joseph4829 wrote:
>Is there a faster way using sockets?
I don't think LWP::Simple adds THAT much overhead. The bottleneck is in
the connection...
Bart.
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perl-users-request@ruby.oce.orst.edu. Do not waste your time or mine
sending perl questions to the -request address, I don't have time to
answer them even if I did know the answer.
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